comment by Serial WUManiser™© - KROENKE OUT, EDU OUT, ARTETA OUT (U1410)
posted 17 minutes ago
"hope that I would see a real, all guns blazing fighters performance; challenges flying in and Arsenal peppering the Villarreal goal like their lives depended on it."
You obviously haven't been watching much of Arsenal. We're negative, gutless, error prone, bottling mess. Tbh, we've always been the later three but now we're awful in attack as well.
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Not according to 'JustYourAverageFan' you're not. The players are all hungry to win according to him!!
comment by (U21781)
posted 14 minutes ago
It really goes back to Gazidis and 2011:
“We have looked at the market and the players that were available and decided we would keep some powder dry as a deliberate strategy.
“Certainly, for January and next summer there are funds available in a significant way to invest in the team.”
Completely miss judged the landscape of football. Financial fair play did not work, the influx of limitless external funds inflated the transfer market giving rise to super agents and all the money arsenal has saved up for rainy days was worthless. How we got caught with our pants so very far down is now a historical shambles.
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Yeah you make some very good points. Gazidis is culpable in all of this mess too.
Who was more cowardly yesterday?
The French or the Arsenal
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Serial WUManiser™© - KROENKE OUT, EDU OUT, ARTETA OUT (U1410)
posted 17 minutes ago
"hope that I would see a real, all guns blazing fighters performance; challenges flying in and Arsenal peppering the Villarreal goal like their lives depended on it."
You obviously haven't been watching much of Arsenal. We're negative, gutless, error prone, bottling mess. Tbh, we've always been the later three but now we're awful in attack as well.
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Not according to 'JustYourAverageFan' you're not. The players are all hungry to win according to him!!
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I didn't say that they were. But, if you read it correctly, I did they say there was no way for any of us on here to know that they aren't.
Plenty of players from Africa speak about family struggles. I can't remember who it was (possibly Yaya Toure but I could be wrong) who once said that he suffered a fair amount of abuse from his own fans about recent performances, but he went on to say that they didn't understand what was going on in the background of his life. He went on to say that off the field, he was constantly worrying about waking up to family members potentially being killed because of the region of Africa that his family lived in.
So I'm certain that won't be true of every player, and yes, some of these players may be short of confidence or not wanting to play for the club, however, it also isn't correct to say the whole set of players, like you have referred to, do not have the hunger or desire to play anymore.
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 19 minutes ago
I do watch those players, however, going back to my original point, you're working under the assumption that they have no hunger or desire, yet they might be asked to play a certain way under Arteta which may show those characteristics.
But yeah, the professional footballers, many of them at Arsenal who have arrived from deprived backgrounds and have worked their way through football to reach the elite level in the PL suddenly don't have the hunger and desire to play anymore. That sounds about right doesn't it Culer.
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If you think those players want to win and aren't pampered superstars who don't care then you're deluded.
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Please refer to above.
Also, practice what you preach. You go on about people giving you abuse all the time and you've gone and called me deluded on two articles now. A proper WUM.
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 19 minutes ago
I do watch those players, however, going back to my original point, you're working under the assumption that they have no hunger or desire, yet they might be asked to play a certain way under Arteta which may show those characteristics.
But yeah, the professional footballers, many of them at Arsenal who have arrived from deprived backgrounds and have worked their way through football to reach the elite level in the PL suddenly don't have the hunger and desire to play anymore. That sounds about right doesn't it Culer.
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If you think those players want to win and aren't pampered superstars who don't care then you're deluded.
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Please refer to above.
Also, practice what you preach. You go on about people giving you abuse all the time and you've gone and called me deluded on two articles now. A proper WUM.
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Sorry about that I should have phrased it differently.
I disagree with your opinion.
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 19 minutes ago
I do watch those players, however, going back to my original point, you're working under the assumption that they have no hunger or desire, yet they might be asked to play a certain way under Arteta which may show those characteristics.
But yeah, the professional footballers, many of them at Arsenal who have arrived from deprived backgrounds and have worked their way through football to reach the elite level in the PL suddenly don't have the hunger and desire to play anymore. That sounds about right doesn't it Culer.
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If you think those players want to win and aren't pampered superstars who don't care then you're deluded.
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Please refer to above.
Also, practice what you preach. You go on about people giving you abuse all the time and you've gone and called me deluded on two articles now. A proper WUM.
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Sorry about that I should have phrased it differently.
I disagree with your opinion.
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Hey Shandy it might help it not look so obvious if you leave both accounts open rather than logging off your sandy one and onto your Culer one.......
comment by The scenes (U22442)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 19 minutes ago
I do watch those players, however, going back to my original point, you're working under the assumption that they have no hunger or desire, yet they might be asked to play a certain way under Arteta which may show those characteristics.
But yeah, the professional footballers, many of them at Arsenal who have arrived from deprived backgrounds and have worked their way through football to reach the elite level in the PL suddenly don't have the hunger and desire to play anymore. That sounds about right doesn't it Culer.
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If you think those players want to win and aren't pampered superstars who don't care then you're deluded.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Please refer to above.
Also, practice what you preach. You go on about people giving you abuse all the time and you've gone and called me deluded on two articles now. A proper WUM.
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Sorry about that I should have phrased it differently.
I disagree with your opinion.
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Hey Shandy it might help it not look so obvious if you leave both accounts open rather than logging off your sandy one and onto your Culer one.......
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I'm not Sandy you moron. People like you ruin the user experience of this forum.
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by The scenes (U22442)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 19 minutes ago
I do watch those players, however, going back to my original point, you're working under the assumption that they have no hunger or desire, yet they might be asked to play a certain way under Arteta which may show those characteristics.
But yeah, the professional footballers, many of them at Arsenal who have arrived from deprived backgrounds and have worked their way through football to reach the elite level in the PL suddenly don't have the hunger and desire to play anymore. That sounds about right doesn't it Culer.
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If you think those players want to win and aren't pampered superstars who don't care then you're deluded.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Please refer to above.
Also, practice what you preach. You go on about people giving you abuse all the time and you've gone and called me deluded on two articles now. A proper WUM.
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Sorry about that I should have phrased it differently.
I disagree with your opinion.
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Hey Shandy it might help it not look so obvious if you leave both accounts open rather than logging off your sandy one and onto your Culer one.......
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I'm not Sandy you moron. People like you ruin the user experience of this forum.
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No no Shandy people like yourself with your multiple accounts and fantasy worlds are the people who ruin this site
comment by The scenes (U22442)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by The scenes (U22442)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 19 minutes ago
I do watch those players, however, going back to my original point, you're working under the assumption that they have no hunger or desire, yet they might be asked to play a certain way under Arteta which may show those characteristics.
But yeah, the professional footballers, many of them at Arsenal who have arrived from deprived backgrounds and have worked their way through football to reach the elite level in the PL suddenly don't have the hunger and desire to play anymore. That sounds about right doesn't it Culer.
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If you think those players want to win and aren't pampered superstars who don't care then you're deluded.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Please refer to above.
Also, practice what you preach. You go on about people giving you abuse all the time and you've gone and called me deluded on two articles now. A proper WUM.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry about that I should have phrased it differently.
I disagree with your opinion.
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Hey Shandy it might help it not look so obvious if you leave both accounts open rather than logging off your sandy one and onto your Culer one.......
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I'm not Sandy you moron. People like you ruin the user experience of this forum.
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No no Shandy people like yourself with your multiple accounts and fantasy worlds are the people who ruin this site
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I have one account. The one i'm on now. Idiot.
Culer, perhaps you could ask admin to confirm it?
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
comment by The scenes (U22442)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by The scenes (U22442)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 19 minutes ago
I do watch those players, however, going back to my original point, you're working under the assumption that they have no hunger or desire, yet they might be asked to play a certain way under Arteta which may show those characteristics.
But yeah, the professional footballers, many of them at Arsenal who have arrived from deprived backgrounds and have worked their way through football to reach the elite level in the PL suddenly don't have the hunger and desire to play anymore. That sounds about right doesn't it Culer.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you think those players want to win and aren't pampered superstars who don't care then you're deluded.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Please refer to above.
Also, practice what you preach. You go on about people giving you abuse all the time and you've gone and called me deluded on two articles now. A proper WUM.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry about that I should have phrased it differently.
I disagree with your opinion.
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Hey Shandy it might help it not look so obvious if you leave both accounts open rather than logging off your sandy one and onto your Culer one.......
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I'm not Sandy you moron. People like you ruin the user experience of this forum.
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No no Shandy people like yourself with your multiple accounts and fantasy worlds are the people who ruin this site
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I have one account. The one i'm on now. Idiot.
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Thats it Shandy remain nice and calm..........
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 8 hours, 55 minutes ago
comment by TheBlackCountry (U22512)
posted 12 minutes ago
They are just a couple of years further along the same road as Man United are travelling down.
Owners with very similar agendas, divided fan base, players with poor attitudes that would rather be elsewhere, out of depth former players as managers recruited on the cheap, etc
Like I said, two clubs on the same path to terminal decline.
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posted on 7/5/21
comment by Serial WUManiser™© - KROENKE OUT, EDU OUT, ARTETA OUT (U1410)
posted 17 minutes ago
"hope that I would see a real, all guns blazing fighters performance; challenges flying in and Arsenal peppering the Villarreal goal like their lives depended on it."
You obviously haven't been watching much of Arsenal. We're negative, gutless, error prone, bottling mess. Tbh, we've always been the later three but now we're awful in attack as well.
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Not according to 'JustYourAverageFan' you're not. The players are all hungry to win according to him!!
posted on 7/5/21
comment by (U21781)
posted 14 minutes ago
It really goes back to Gazidis and 2011:
“We have looked at the market and the players that were available and decided we would keep some powder dry as a deliberate strategy.
“Certainly, for January and next summer there are funds available in a significant way to invest in the team.”
Completely miss judged the landscape of football. Financial fair play did not work, the influx of limitless external funds inflated the transfer market giving rise to super agents and all the money arsenal has saved up for rainy days was worthless. How we got caught with our pants so very far down is now a historical shambles.
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Yeah you make some very good points. Gazidis is culpable in all of this mess too.
posted on 7/5/21
Who was more cowardly yesterday?
The French or the Arsenal
posted on 7/5/21
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Serial WUManiser™© - KROENKE OUT, EDU OUT, ARTETA OUT (U1410)
posted 17 minutes ago
"hope that I would see a real, all guns blazing fighters performance; challenges flying in and Arsenal peppering the Villarreal goal like their lives depended on it."
You obviously haven't been watching much of Arsenal. We're negative, gutless, error prone, bottling mess. Tbh, we've always been the later three but now we're awful in attack as well.
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Not according to 'JustYourAverageFan' you're not. The players are all hungry to win according to him!!
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I didn't say that they were. But, if you read it correctly, I did they say there was no way for any of us on here to know that they aren't.
Plenty of players from Africa speak about family struggles. I can't remember who it was (possibly Yaya Toure but I could be wrong) who once said that he suffered a fair amount of abuse from his own fans about recent performances, but he went on to say that they didn't understand what was going on in the background of his life. He went on to say that off the field, he was constantly worrying about waking up to family members potentially being killed because of the region of Africa that his family lived in.
So I'm certain that won't be true of every player, and yes, some of these players may be short of confidence or not wanting to play for the club, however, it also isn't correct to say the whole set of players, like you have referred to, do not have the hunger or desire to play anymore.
posted on 7/5/21
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 19 minutes ago
I do watch those players, however, going back to my original point, you're working under the assumption that they have no hunger or desire, yet they might be asked to play a certain way under Arteta which may show those characteristics.
But yeah, the professional footballers, many of them at Arsenal who have arrived from deprived backgrounds and have worked their way through football to reach the elite level in the PL suddenly don't have the hunger and desire to play anymore. That sounds about right doesn't it Culer.
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If you think those players want to win and aren't pampered superstars who don't care then you're deluded.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Please refer to above.
Also, practice what you preach. You go on about people giving you abuse all the time and you've gone and called me deluded on two articles now. A proper WUM.
posted on 7/5/21
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 19 minutes ago
I do watch those players, however, going back to my original point, you're working under the assumption that they have no hunger or desire, yet they might be asked to play a certain way under Arteta which may show those characteristics.
But yeah, the professional footballers, many of them at Arsenal who have arrived from deprived backgrounds and have worked their way through football to reach the elite level in the PL suddenly don't have the hunger and desire to play anymore. That sounds about right doesn't it Culer.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you think those players want to win and aren't pampered superstars who don't care then you're deluded.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Please refer to above.
Also, practice what you preach. You go on about people giving you abuse all the time and you've gone and called me deluded on two articles now. A proper WUM.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry about that I should have phrased it differently.
I disagree with your opinion.
posted on 7/5/21
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 19 minutes ago
I do watch those players, however, going back to my original point, you're working under the assumption that they have no hunger or desire, yet they might be asked to play a certain way under Arteta which may show those characteristics.
But yeah, the professional footballers, many of them at Arsenal who have arrived from deprived backgrounds and have worked their way through football to reach the elite level in the PL suddenly don't have the hunger and desire to play anymore. That sounds about right doesn't it Culer.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you think those players want to win and aren't pampered superstars who don't care then you're deluded.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Please refer to above.
Also, practice what you preach. You go on about people giving you abuse all the time and you've gone and called me deluded on two articles now. A proper WUM.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry about that I should have phrased it differently.
I disagree with your opinion.
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Hey Shandy it might help it not look so obvious if you leave both accounts open rather than logging off your sandy one and onto your Culer one.......
posted on 7/5/21
comment by The scenes (U22442)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 19 minutes ago
I do watch those players, however, going back to my original point, you're working under the assumption that they have no hunger or desire, yet they might be asked to play a certain way under Arteta which may show those characteristics.
But yeah, the professional footballers, many of them at Arsenal who have arrived from deprived backgrounds and have worked their way through football to reach the elite level in the PL suddenly don't have the hunger and desire to play anymore. That sounds about right doesn't it Culer.
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If you think those players want to win and aren't pampered superstars who don't care then you're deluded.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Please refer to above.
Also, practice what you preach. You go on about people giving you abuse all the time and you've gone and called me deluded on two articles now. A proper WUM.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry about that I should have phrased it differently.
I disagree with your opinion.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hey Shandy it might help it not look so obvious if you leave both accounts open rather than logging off your sandy one and onto your Culer one.......
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I'm not Sandy you moron. People like you ruin the user experience of this forum.
posted on 7/5/21
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by The scenes (U22442)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 19 minutes ago
I do watch those players, however, going back to my original point, you're working under the assumption that they have no hunger or desire, yet they might be asked to play a certain way under Arteta which may show those characteristics.
But yeah, the professional footballers, many of them at Arsenal who have arrived from deprived backgrounds and have worked their way through football to reach the elite level in the PL suddenly don't have the hunger and desire to play anymore. That sounds about right doesn't it Culer.
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If you think those players want to win and aren't pampered superstars who don't care then you're deluded.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Please refer to above.
Also, practice what you preach. You go on about people giving you abuse all the time and you've gone and called me deluded on two articles now. A proper WUM.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry about that I should have phrased it differently.
I disagree with your opinion.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hey Shandy it might help it not look so obvious if you leave both accounts open rather than logging off your sandy one and onto your Culer one.......
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm not Sandy you moron. People like you ruin the user experience of this forum.
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No no Shandy people like yourself with your multiple accounts and fantasy worlds are the people who ruin this site
posted on 7/5/21
comment by The scenes (U22442)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by The scenes (U22442)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 19 minutes ago
I do watch those players, however, going back to my original point, you're working under the assumption that they have no hunger or desire, yet they might be asked to play a certain way under Arteta which may show those characteristics.
But yeah, the professional footballers, many of them at Arsenal who have arrived from deprived backgrounds and have worked their way through football to reach the elite level in the PL suddenly don't have the hunger and desire to play anymore. That sounds about right doesn't it Culer.
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If you think those players want to win and aren't pampered superstars who don't care then you're deluded.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Please refer to above.
Also, practice what you preach. You go on about people giving you abuse all the time and you've gone and called me deluded on two articles now. A proper WUM.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry about that I should have phrased it differently.
I disagree with your opinion.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hey Shandy it might help it not look so obvious if you leave both accounts open rather than logging off your sandy one and onto your Culer one.......
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm not Sandy you moron. People like you ruin the user experience of this forum.
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No no Shandy people like yourself with your multiple accounts and fantasy worlds are the people who ruin this site
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I have one account. The one i'm on now. Idiot.
posted on 7/5/21
Culer, perhaps you could ask admin to confirm it?
posted on 7/5/21
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
comment by The scenes (U22442)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by The scenes (U22442)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 19 minutes ago
I do watch those players, however, going back to my original point, you're working under the assumption that they have no hunger or desire, yet they might be asked to play a certain way under Arteta which may show those characteristics.
But yeah, the professional footballers, many of them at Arsenal who have arrived from deprived backgrounds and have worked their way through football to reach the elite level in the PL suddenly don't have the hunger and desire to play anymore. That sounds about right doesn't it Culer.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you think those players want to win and aren't pampered superstars who don't care then you're deluded.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Please refer to above.
Also, practice what you preach. You go on about people giving you abuse all the time and you've gone and called me deluded on two articles now. A proper WUM.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry about that I should have phrased it differently.
I disagree with your opinion.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hey Shandy it might help it not look so obvious if you leave both accounts open rather than logging off your sandy one and onto your Culer one.......
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm not Sandy you moron. People like you ruin the user experience of this forum.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No no Shandy people like yourself with your multiple accounts and fantasy worlds are the people who ruin this site
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I have one account. The one i'm on now. Idiot.
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Thats it Shandy remain nice and calm..........
posted on 7/5/21
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 8 hours, 55 minutes ago
comment by TheBlackCountry (U22512)
posted 12 minutes ago
They are just a couple of years further along the same road as Man United are travelling down.
Owners with very similar agendas, divided fan base, players with poor attitudes that would rather be elsewhere, out of depth former players as managers recruited on the cheap, etc
Like I said, two clubs on the same path to terminal decline.
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scamdemic
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Screaming Karen’s and Sheeple
Page 2 of 2