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posted on 15/5/21

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posted on 15/5/21

comment by 🇬🇧 ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe 🇬🇧 (U22182)
posted 1 minute ago
Whatever way you look at it and whatever side you support - no one can condone the utterly pointless and ridiculous bombings and rocket missiles coming from either side

I don’t care which side has the larger of smaller military power - it’s just the utterly stupid and pointless pursuit of power over peace

Both the Jews and the Palestinians are equally at fault for this
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The victim who fights back against the bully is not "Equally at fault" with the doing the bullying.

There is only one side with the military might to commit genocide and actively feckin doing it. So no, they're not "Equally to blame," because this started in bible times. That's the exact ignorant attitude the Isreali military campaigns thrive on. "Those 250 innocent Palestinians we're equally to blame for us slaughtering hundreds of them to kill 2 members of Hamas in the building next door, because they fired a rocket which killed a 3 of Isreali's and injured 4 more."

posted on 15/5/21

For anybody interested, the pay wall on this documentary has been taken off in solidarity with the Palestinians.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnZSaKYmP2s&t=2906s

Some useful bits of info in there, including a wikileaks report about how the Israeli intelligence chief allowed Hamas to take over the Gaza strip so they could deal with it as a hostile state.

posted on 15/5/21

comment by RB&W - Always a Legacy (U21434)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 9 seconds ago
Both the Jews and the Palestinians are equally at fault for this
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So if someone starts squatting in my house and I try to evict them, am I as guilty as the squatters?
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Under UK law. Probably.
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OK, let's put it it another way.

If a mugger demands my wallet and car keys and I refuse, am I as guilty as the mugger.

posted on 15/5/21

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 minute ago
Both the Jews and the Palestinians are equally at fault for this
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So if someone starts squatting in my house and I try to evict them, am I as guilty as the squatters?
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They’ve taken over but generously let you have the back bedroom. They keep moving their stuff in though and threatening to kick you out. All because they grew up in that house generations ago.

posted on 15/5/21

The Israeli airforce has killed over 100 people, including 27 children just this week in the current conflict. Choosing to side with a country that slaughters children is not ethical.

Israel has passed laws that declare it a Jewish ethnostate. We wouldn't support a law in the US that made it a white ethnostate. Ethnosupremacy is what literally led the holocaust. This is not ethical.

The Israelis have been slowly over the past century been taking more and more land from the Palestenians, forcing an apartheid state where they have no freedom of movement and live in squalor. Supporting this is not ethical.

posted on 15/5/21

comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Girøulski Alt-0216 forever (U14971)
posted 1 minute ago
It's an ethnostate. That means that becoming fascist was always its destiny. It exists because the powers at the time (UK, France, USA) wanted a transplanted ally nation in the middle east. Ashkenazi Jews were not considered "white" like they are now, but they were always considered whiter than Palestinians (and why they dominate the culture over other Jewish ethnicities). As a result, there is a powerful military foothold in a region Russia sought to control.

Estabilishing an ethnostate on the world's most contested piece of land, and giving it nukes and US-level military arms, was always going to lead to a genocide. I don't know the way out of this. Peace is almost impossible to see.

There is absolutely nothing inherent in Jewishness that has led to this situation. Give any people a (justified or not (in their case justified)) victim/siege mentality, power over others and an ethnostate and this is what comes of it. But the nation is fascist enough to vote for fascism. You do not need a majority for that.
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"There is absolutely nothing inherent in Jewishness that has led to this situation"

I absolutely agree with this.
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There’s a difference between Jews and Zionists
Zionists are the worst of the lot on this planets. Most Jewish people don’t agree with Zionist actions.

Jews and Arabs lived together for years. Then the extremist started reading its head. The zionists.

posted on 15/5/21

The Israeli airforce has killed over 100 people, including 27 children just this week in the current conflict. Choosing to side with a country that slaughters children is not ethical.

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Do you also ever wonder how many hundreds of thousand children the RAF firebombed to death over Germany?

posted on 15/5/21

Both the Jews and the Palestinians are equally at fault for this
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Whaaaaaaaaaat

You really are master of one upping yourself

posted on 15/5/21

comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Girøulski Alt-0216 forever (U14971)
posted 1 minute ago
It's an ethnostate. That means that becoming fascist was always its destiny. It exists because the powers at the time (UK, France, USA) wanted a transplanted ally nation in the middle east. Ashkenazi Jews were not considered "white" like they are now, but they were always considered whiter than Palestinians (and why they dominate the culture over other Jewish ethnicities). As a result, there is a powerful military foothold in a region Russia sought to control.

Estabilishing an ethnostate on the world's most contested piece of land, and giving it nukes and US-level military arms, was always going to lead to a genocide. I don't know the way out of this. Peace is almost impossible to see.

There is absolutely nothing inherent in Jewishness that has led to this situation. Give any people a (justified or not (in their case justified)) victim/siege mentality, power over others and an ethnostate and this is what comes of it. But the nation is fascist enough to vote for fascism. You do not need a majority for that.
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"There is absolutely nothing inherent in Jewishness that has led to this situation"

I absolutely agree with this.
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There’s a difference between Jews and Zionists
Zionists are the worst of the lot on this planets. Most Jewish people don’t agree with Zionist actions.

Jews and Arabs lived together for years. Then the extremist started reading its head. The zionists.
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Yes and no. Even within Zionism there's thought that isn't reflected in Israel's modern actions. What they are doing perfectly falls under the labels of "fascist", "ethnostate", "genocide" and "apartheid".

The historical context of wanting to come together is very understandable. If they were a majority, they would have been much safer. It's a dream of many permanent minorities, from LGBT people to Romanis to Jewish people in the 20th century.

posted on 15/5/21

comment by RB&W - Always a Legacy (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
The Israeli airforce has killed over 100 people, including 27 children just this week in the current conflict. Choosing to side with a country that slaughters children is not ethical.

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Do you also ever wonder how many hundreds of thousand children the RAF firebombed to death over Germany?
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All the time. I remember how old I was, and how many years of WWII history I had been taught, before I learnt that bombing civilian targets was started by the British.

posted on 15/5/21

comment by Girøulski Alt-0216 forever (U14971)
posted 6 minutes ago
It's an ethnostate. That means that becoming fascist was always its destiny. It exists because the powers at the time (UK, France, USA) wanted a transplanted ally nation in the middle east. Ashkenazi Jews were not considered "white" like they are now, but they were always considered whiter than Palestinians (and why they dominate the culture over other Jewish ethnicities). As a result, there is a powerful military foothold in a region Russia sought to control.

Estabilishing an ethnostate on the world's most contested piece of land, and giving it nukes and US-level military arms, was always going to lead to a genocide. I don't know the way out of this. Peace is almost impossible to see.

There is absolutely nothing inherent in Jewishness that has led to this situation. Give any people a (justified or not (in their case justified)) victim/siege mentality, power over others and an ethnostate and this is what comes of it. But the nation is fascist enough to vote for fascism. You do not need a majority for that.
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One of the best articles I’ve read on this website.

Israel is not a democracy, it can’t be , if it incorporates the “ occupied lands “ into Israel, it loses its majority in its parliament….hence the occupied lands will never get the vote .

posted on 15/5/21

comment by Picasso (U21397)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Girøulski Alt-0216 forever (U14971)
posted 6 minutes ago
It's an ethnostate. That means that becoming fascist was always its destiny. It exists because the powers at the time (UK, France, USA) wanted a transplanted ally nation in the middle east. Ashkenazi Jews were not considered "white" like they are now, but they were always considered whiter than Palestinians (and why they dominate the culture over other Jewish ethnicities). As a result, there is a powerful military foothold in a region Russia sought to control.

Estabilishing an ethnostate on the world's most contested piece of land, and giving it nukes and US-level military arms, was always going to lead to a genocide. I don't know the way out of this. Peace is almost impossible to see.

There is absolutely nothing inherent in Jewishness that has led to this situation. Give any people a (justified or not (in their case justified)) victim/siege mentality, power over others and an ethnostate and this is what comes of it. But the nation is fascist enough to vote for fascism. You do not need a majority for that.
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One of the best articles I’ve read on this website.

Israel is not a democracy, it can’t be , if it incorporates the “ occupied lands “ into Israel, it loses its majority in its parliament….hence the occupied lands will never get the vote .
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Or refugees be allowed to return...

posted on 15/5/21

Adding to this: incidentally, Netanyahu just failed [again] at forming a government, lost the mandate, while his criminal sentence is ongoing, and just had a massive civil disaster killing 44 people last week, with his allies being held responsible - so things aren't looking great for him. It would certainly be very convenient if chaos erupts right now to distract everyone, abd also conveniently frame him as the person in charge who gets to save the situation...

Very curious timing.

posted on 15/5/21

comment by RB&W - Always a Legacy (U21434)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 9 seconds ago
Both the Jews and the Palestinians are equally at fault for this
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So if someone starts squatting in my house and I try to evict them, am I as guilty as the squatters?
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Under UK law. Probably.
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Only if he's not living in the house himself. 'Squatters' only get rights over vacant properties, if he moves in whilst Boris is there, he's not a squatter he's a "burglar" Then the law says Boris can tell him to get out and if he refuses use reasonable force to remove him. He can even call the cops to have them do it for them.

Pretty sure that the Palestinians were living in their house when the Israeli forced entry. Their problem is in their case the 'cops' are some bunch of bent feckers who actually helped finance and arm this house-jacking in the first place because they want what the Palestinians have. So they damn sure ain't coming no matter how many 999 calls get made for Palestine.

NATO - Most powerful branch of Crooked Cops Inc.

posted on 15/5/21

comment by RB&W - Always a Legacy (U21434)
posted 5 minutes ago
The Israeli airforce has killed over 100 people, including 27 children just this week in the current conflict. Choosing to side with a country that slaughters children is not ethical.

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Do you also ever wonder how many hundreds of thousand children the RAF firebombed to death over Germany?
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Idiot
Germany and England were at war and both had an army
Israel is the 4th biggest army in the world using latest in tech weapons against Palestine who have joke of DIY rockets and kids throwing stones?
How’s that same?🙄

posted on 15/5/21

comment by Chelsea_badger (U22493)
posted 1 minute ago
Adding to this: incidentally, Netanyahu just failed [again] at forming a government, lost the mandate, while his criminal sentence is ongoing, and just had a massive civil disaster killing 44 people last week, with his allies being held responsible - so things aren't looking great for him. It would certainly be very convenient if chaos erupts right now to distract everyone, abd also conveniently frame him as the person in charge who gets to save the situation...

Very curious timing.
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This is a very important and underreported aspect of what is going on. Netanyahu is in the same category as Trump, Bolsonaro, Modi or Duterte. He would absolutely pass an Enabling Act to maintain power.

posted on 15/5/21

comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 14 minutes ago
I imagine we will see a day when all Palestinians are dead and Israelis have settled on all the land and the West and spineless Arab nations will make no comment and that will be that. The countries in the Arab world deserved to be toppled after their complicity in this atrocity.
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Sadly , I think your right.
This will only end with the elimination, the termination of the Palestinians.

Israel’s final solution.

posted on 15/5/21

History has shown us and ironically the Jewish people of all the people should know this: the aggressor never wins.
Look at Hitler and the ironic aggression against Jews who in turn have taken the mantra from the third reich and applying it today!

posted on 15/5/21

comment by Picasso (U21397)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 14 minutes ago
I imagine we will see a day when all Palestinians are dead and Israelis have settled on all the land and the West and spineless Arab nations will make no comment and that will be that. The countries in the Arab world deserved to be toppled after their complicity in this atrocity.
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Sadly , I think your right.
This will only end with the elimination, the termination of the Palestinians.

Israel’s final solution.
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That’s their ultimate desire 👍

posted on 15/5/21

comment by RB&W - Always a Legacy (U21434)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Picasso (U21397)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by 🇬🇧 ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe 🇬🇧 (U22182)
posted 55 seconds ago
Whatever way you look at it and whatever side you support - no one can condone the utterly pointless and ridiculous bombings and rocket missiles coming from either side

I don’t care which side has the larger of smaller military power - it’s just the utterly stupid and pointless pursuit of power over peace

Both the Jews and the Palestinians are equally at fault for this
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You should care..
Using F16’s and artillery against stone throwers ..
Not quite the fair fight.
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Im not sure that war was ever supposed to be a 'fair fight'.
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You call this “war” ..?
Stone throwers against a nuke country..

posted on 15/5/21

comment by Scott The King McTominay (U10026)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by 🇬🇧 ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe 🇬🇧 (U22182)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 9 minutes ago
Officially speaking - Any criticism of the State of Israel is deemed 'Anti-Semtic' in this country.

What a load of bollox.
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Just as pathetic as any criticism against Hamas is deemed as Islamophobic - it works both ways
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No it doesn’t.
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posted on 15/5/21

I totally support Palestine.

Israel is one of the biggest terrorist nations in the world.
They're always pretending to be the victims even while they're murdering little Palestinian children

posted on 15/5/21

comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 2 minutes ago
History has shown us and ironically the Jewish people of all the people should know this: the aggressor never wins.
Look at Hitler and the ironic aggression against Jews who in turn have taken the mantra from the third reich and applying it today!
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This is absolute nonsense ranging from Alexander the Great to Caesar to Genghis Khan to the British to the American/Australian settlers to William the Conqueror to half of China's Dynasties. There is no cosmic pull towards justice. There is only us.

posted on 15/5/21

Arsenal have seriously lost their touch with the idiotic owners. If Arsenal reprimand Elneny, they can get relegated for all I care. Feck them. Already done over Ozil for no good reason

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