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posted on 18/5/21

And don’t even think about starting on the obligatory wearing of masks either

It was absolutely necessary to save lives on Friday but come Monday we didn’t need them in schools despite the younger generation being the highest risk group in spreading the virus.

And you fwckwits buy into this sheite?

posted on 18/5/21

i think the point zach is that it shouldn't have to be, need to be quicker and shutting that schit down before it becomes a problem.

i don't believe they want to let them in so they can lock down again, i just think they are celtic board level slow at dealing with crisis.

posted on 18/5/21

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posted on 18/5/21

comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 2 minutes ago
The risk was never a high one.
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of course it was high, hospitals were overrun, people were dying, and that was with lockdowns.

would have been absolutel chaos without them, unfair on those who would die, unfair on those who would lose loved ones, unfair on NHS staff, unfair on care home workers, unfair on the police.

The risk was high, it's not as high now and with vaccinations it's time to start opening up now, but the risk was only ever miniscule to people who don't feel they had much to lose from it.

Stories of doctors and nurses going to work to help fight this and then contracting it and dying, lets not cheapen their sacrifice by saying the risk wasn't high.
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No it wasn’t. Yes it would have spread more and yes more would likely have died. Equally over 99% would have survived.

Go and argue the numbers all you like but the risk of dying because of Covid (not with Covid) was ridiculously low.

It’s of course practically negligent now.

posted on 18/5/21

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posted on 18/5/21

comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 1 minute ago
i think the point zach is that it shouldn't have to be, need to be quicker and shutting that schit down before it becomes a problem.

i don't believe they want to let them in so they can lock down again, i just think they are celtic board level slow at dealing with crisis.
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You’re either at it or just refusing to acknowledge as to how quick we as a country identify and then move against any changes or variants.

So again.

Nonsense.

posted on 18/5/21

The risk was high, but only in a certain group of people.

I think the average COVID death is 87 years old, which is above average life expectancy. That's not to be cruel as everyone is important but does it merit closing schools and having kids wear masks or putting their life on hold?

I think a third of deaths here also happened in care homes, primarily as a result of horrendous decision making at government level.

There's evidence now that amongst those under 30 the flu is actually more of a threat than COVID and transmission outdoors is non existent. With all that in mind plus a vaccine roll out for all vulnerable groups there is absolutely no excuse for any future lockdowns.

posted on 18/5/21

comment by Zachsda( Sorry Mr. I broke yer bench) (U1850)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Zachsda( Sorry Mr. I broke yer bench) (U1850)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign: #55 Predictor Titles (U3627)
posted 1 minute ago
It's just a shambles. Shifting goalposts.

We are at levels now that wouldn't even send us into lockdown. The whole protect the NHS and protect the vulnerable is done. What is happening now from the SG is fear.

They are so scared to ease lockdown incase numbers spike again and we have a huge national problem. However, the vaccine programme is now at 40's and above so the risk is now so low that the risk against the economy is now so much higher.

I didn't agree for a long time with the whole open the pubs etc etc but IMO the balance of risk has well and truly swung the other way now
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Quite.

And let’s be brutally honest.

The risk was never a high one. Ever at any time. It hit the old and vulnerable. Yes it’s horrible but again perspective is needed.

Everyone screaming about the numbers in India. Do these people have a clue about the truly awful and practically non existent healthcare there, never mind have a clue about the size of population? I doubt it.

And the NHS was never over run. Never.
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Only with film directors filming choreographed nurses

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I wouldn’t go that far. They were undoubtedly under huge degrees of stress but again people forget most deaths through infections took place in hospitals and care homes. We actually managed to make it worse all over the U.K.

And now look where we are. Residents in care homes still under prison like existence. People being told how to hug.

Being promised “new freedoms”. I mean wtf are they? My memory says that was just normally life and now we have idiots telling us if we act as they determine we might get them back!

And people still want this? Incredible.

Wish they’d made public sector workers who weren’t at work and couldn’t do their job “because of Covid” live on furlough wages. I think we’d see a completely different survey result.

As I’ve said often enough we will look back and wonder just wtf we did. I get the first time round but there’s more than enough evidence to show that brutal lockdowns are dangerous and counter productive.

And now go and try and get the powers permanently removed that allow us these “new freedoms”.
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I was exaggerating to make a point
I’m almost certain I’ve met you and exaggerated at some point 🤣
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For the 20 millionth time......

posted on 18/5/21

comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 47 seconds ago
The risk was high, but only in a certain group of people.

I think the average COVID death is 87 years old, which is above average life expectancy. That's not to be cruel as everyone is important but does it merit closing schools and having kids wear masks or putting their life on hold?

I think a third of deaths here also happened in care homes, primarily as a result of horrendous decision making at government level.

There's evidence now that amongst those under 30 the flu is actually more of a threat than COVID and transmission outdoors is non existent. With all that in mind plus a vaccine roll out for all vulnerable groups there is absolutely no excuse for any future lockdowns.
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At last. A beacon of light in common sense and perspective.

Fwcking lunatics screaming at the moon.

posted on 18/5/21

The average age of those who died with Covid is 82. That hasn’t changed.

comment by NNH (U10730)

posted on 18/5/21

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 47 seconds ago
The risk was high, but only in a certain group of people.

I think the average COVID death is 87 years old, which is above average life expectancy. That's not to be cruel as everyone is important but does it merit closing schools and having kids wear masks or putting their life on hold?

I think a third of deaths here also happened in care homes, primarily as a result of horrendous decision making at government level.

There's evidence now that amongst those under 30 the flu is actually more of a threat than COVID and transmission outdoors is non existent. With all that in mind plus a vaccine roll out for all vulnerable groups there is absolutely no excuse for any future lockdowns.
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At last. A beacon of light in common sense and perspective.

Fwcking lunatics screaming at the moon.
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Remember Smid’s a Richard Dunne mate.

posted on 18/5/21

the indian variant was reported here at the end of march.

it took them a month.

posted on 18/5/21

now that I've sobered up and put the Ulster flags away for a few months Im back to being a sensible human being. No idea where this La Vita sign came from though that's hanging on my wall.

comment by NNH (U10730)

posted on 18/5/21

comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 17 seconds ago
now that I've sobered up and put the Ulster flags away for a few months Im back to being a sensible human being. No idea where this La Vita sign came from though that's hanging on my wall.
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They charge £8.99 for mozzarella sticks mate, deserve to be smashed up.

posted on 18/5/21

comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 59 seconds ago
the indian variant was reported here at the end of march.

it took them a month.


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4 flights in to Heathrow from India this morning. I find it crazy that I need to live with restrictions to prevent spread of an Indian virus variant and keep people safe, but those actually from India can fly in to the country no problem.

posted on 18/5/21

comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 2 minutes ago
the indian variant was reported here at the end of march.

it took them a month.


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Got you.

We’re now supposed to close off a country the minute we hear of a new variant?

Smashing. Best we just close every single one off now then as it’s been abundantly clear to us non scientists that viruses mutate and form variants.

posted on 18/5/21

i don't agree with future lockdowns based on whats happening now smid.

I agreed with the initial lockdowns and i hate the opinion that "well it's only old people"

it's an absolute b@wbag of an opinion which lacks compassion, it's a chat i'm tired of having on here tbh because it's a difficult opinion to change.

end the lockdowns, let the world start of move on now, but be more proactive in keeping what they consider to be dangerous strains out.

posted on 18/5/21

comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 59 seconds ago
the indian variant was reported here at the end of march.

it took them a month.


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4 flights in to Heathrow from India this morning. I find it crazy that I need to live with restrictions to prevent spread of an Indian virus variant and keep people safe, but those actually from India can fly in to the country no problem.
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You do in Scotland. Not elsewhere.

posted on 18/5/21

comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 59 seconds ago
the indian variant was reported here at the end of march.

it took them a month.


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4 flights in to Heathrow from India this morning. I find it crazy that I need to live with restrictions to prevent spread of an Indian virus variant and keep people safe, but those actually from India can fly in to the country no problem.
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yep, pretty much my view on it

posted on 18/5/21

comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 16 seconds ago
i don't agree with future lockdowns based on whats happening now smid.

I agreed with the initial lockdowns and i hate the opinion that "well it's only old people"

it's an absolute b@wbag of an opinion which lacks compassion, it's a chat i'm tired of having on here tbh because it's a difficult opinion to change.

end the lockdowns, let the world start of move on now, but be more proactive in keeping what they consider to be dangerous strains out.
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You can stop that right there. What has happened to anyone who’s suffered and that includes their families is awful. Nobody has suggested for a second that it’s just “old people”. Nobody has.

Again though perspective is needed. The average age of death with Covid is the same as the average age of death overall.

And how does anyone know what a dangerous strain is until it’s been in the population for enough time for it to be studied properly? Are we back to closing all the borders just in case again?

posted on 18/5/21

comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 39 seconds ago
i don't agree with future lockdowns based on whats happening now smid.

I agreed with the initial lockdowns and i hate the opinion that "well it's only old people"

it's an absolute b@wbag of an opinion which lacks compassion, it's a chat i'm tired of having on here tbh because it's a difficult opinion to change.

end the lockdowns, let the world start of move on now, but be more proactive in keeping what they consider to be dangerous strains out.
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I get you mate and not suggesting older people are less important.

However, I'll raise you this one. My 2 downstairs neighbours are in their 90s. One of them passed away last year, non COVID related.

I spoke to her daughter not long after and she was devastated that her Mum's last 6 months in the World were spent in isolation in her flat, unable to see anyone. They had planned a holiday in the summer for her, her daughter and granddaughter which was obviously cancelled - they never ended up getting it.

As her daughter told me her Mum had survived a war, raised kids, survived cancer and got over being widowed. She had lived through rations, poverty and all that 90 years in the World gives you. Only to spend her last 6 months locked in a flat on her own waiting the time out, unable to see anyone before she left the World.

It's the same for those in care homes. Is this really a level of protection anyone would want?

posted on 18/5/21

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 59 seconds ago
the indian variant was reported here at the end of march.

it took them a month.


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4 flights in to Heathrow from India this morning. I find it crazy that I need to live with restrictions to prevent spread of an Indian virus variant and keep people safe, but those actually from India can fly in to the country no problem.
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You do in Scotland. Not elsewhere.
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And they are put straight into government run isolation for a minimum of 10 days at their own expense. They are in the vast majority U.K. citizens returning. What would you have us do?

posted on 18/5/21

comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 39 seconds ago
i don't agree with future lockdowns based on whats happening now smid.

I agreed with the initial lockdowns and i hate the opinion that "well it's only old people"

it's an absolute b@wbag of an opinion which lacks compassion, it's a chat i'm tired of having on here tbh because it's a difficult opinion to change.

end the lockdowns, let the world start of move on now, but be more proactive in keeping what they consider to be dangerous strains out.
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I get you mate and not suggesting older people are less important.

However, I'll raise you this one. My 2 downstairs neighbours are in their 90s. One of them passed away last year, non COVID related.

I spoke to her daughter not long after and she was devastated that her Mum's last 6 months in the World were spent in isolation in her flat, unable to see anyone. They had planned a holiday in the summer for her, her daughter and granddaughter which was obviously cancelled - they never ended up getting it.

As her daughter told me her Mum had survived a war, raised kids, survived cancer and got over being widowed. She had lived through rations, poverty and all that 90 years in the World gives you. Only to spend her last 6 months locked in a flat on her own waiting the time out, unable to see anyone before she left the World.

It's the same for those in care homes. Is this really a level of protection anyone would want?
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They were never asked. They were instructed and then legally enforced into it.

Absolute and utter disgrace. Inhumane

posted on 18/5/21

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posted on 18/5/21

Yep that's how I see it Ginger. And the other one below me who is 93 and still with us has been living like this a year now. She knows she doesn't have long left, as she says to me she goes to bed each night not knowing if she will wake up and gets up each day not knowing if she will see the day out by this stage.

She's one of the biggest anti lockdown voices I've heard and it's nothing to do with conspiracies or social media. She just wants to spend her last days without living like a prisoner in her flat.

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