No chance
Son and Alli are better than them and Spurs would still need to buy a replacement CF
No way.
If we don’t want Martial then we will do well to get £20m for him. Likewise with JLingz, just because he’s done well doesn’t mean we will get much for him as he’s widely acknowledged to be surplus at United.
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 44 minutes ago
No way.
If we don’t want Martial then we will do well to get £20m for him. Likewise with JLingz, just because he’s done well doesn’t mean we will get much for him as he’s widely acknowledged to be surplus at United.
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I think you'd find an awful lot of teams that want both players if available which creates buying competition.
At the same time, both would be just fine staying with the club, also preventing a bargain for other teams...
The thing is, we always sell players too cheap anyway, so despite this i don't expect much for Lingz
Martial is an interesting one. He wants to be the CF yet he's now 2nd maybe 3rd choice there.
He's no better than Rashford on the left. In fact Rashford and Shaw compliment each other far more. And we also have Pogba sharing the LW duties currently.
I think Martial's days are numbered if we sign Sancho as that would mean Greenwood will get more time upfront.
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 6 minutes ago
Martial is an interesting one. He wants to be the CF yet he's now 2nd maybe 3rd choice there.
He's no better than Rashford on the left. In fact Rashford and Shaw compliment each other far more. And we also have Pogba sharing the LW duties currently.
I think Martial's days are numbered if we sign Sancho as that would mean Greenwood will get more time upfront.
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This
I would personally drive Martial to spurs or wherever, 100% yes as a swap for Kane. Not sure if its his attitude or character, its not cut out for the top. At this level motivation should come from within instead it takes Ole and his staff to motivate him constantly.
It is sad that Martial has not kicked on. He is much more talented than Rashford but doesn’t have the application.
I had high hopes for Martial this season after a good last season but as usual it’s one step forward two steps back with him.
Martial is destined to be one of those players where it'll look like a mistake to sell him (as he plays much better for his new club) but that it could also be a mistake to keep.
There's definitely a talented player in there though and it'd be great to see it consistently. He hasn't taken too kindly to be presented with any challenge to his place. Funnily enough the time he did look up for the challenge was Jose's second season when he and Rashford battled for the LW spot at the start of the season.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 43 seconds ago
Martial is destined to be one of those players where it'll look like a mistake to sell him (as he plays much better for his new club) but that it could also be a mistake to keep.
There's definitely a talented player in there though and it'd be great to see it consistently. He hasn't taken too kindly to be presented with any challenge to his place. Funnily enough the time he did look up for the challenge was Jose's second season when he and Rashford battled for the LW spot at the start of the season.
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And then we signed Sanchez and moved him to the right initially.
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 43 seconds ago
Martial is destined to be one of those players where it'll look like a mistake to sell him (as he plays much better for his new club) but that it could also be a mistake to keep.
There's definitely a talented player in there though and it'd be great to see it consistently. He hasn't taken too kindly to be presented with any challenge to his place. Funnily enough the time he did look up for the challenge was Jose's second season when he and Rashford battled for the LW spot at the start of the season.
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And then we signed Sanchez and moved him to the right initially.
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I'll admit to being excited when we signed Sanchez but what a disaster the signing was. I'd never criticise him for lack of effort but he just didn't do it did he sadly.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 43 seconds ago
Martial is destined to be one of those players where it'll look like a mistake to sell him (as he plays much better for his new club) but that it could also be a mistake to keep.
There's definitely a talented player in there though and it'd be great to see it consistently. He hasn't taken too kindly to be presented with any challenge to his place. Funnily enough the time he did look up for the challenge was Jose's second season when he and Rashford battled for the LW spot at the start of the season.
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And then we signed Sanchez and moved him to the right initially.
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I'll admit to being excited when we signed Sanchez but what a disaster the signing was. I'd never criticise him for lack of effort but he just didn't do it did he sadly.
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Ya me too. Thought he could take us up another level but other than the odd glimpse in his first 6 months he was truly dreadful for us.
Ed has to keep the "Buy High and Sell Low" tradition - he'll be involved in this and can't lose face.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour ago
It is sad that Martial has not kicked on. He is much more talented than Rashford but doesn’t have the application.
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I don't agree with this at all. Rashford has more than work rate. He's got talent too. He's struggling with injuries and still putting up very strong numbers.
Martial isn't rate that highly outside of this fanbase. He's actually looked on as a very average player. Rashford isn't.
Danny Ings has been linked today with United - https://twitter.com/utdreport/status/1395013103050543107?s=20
If we hadn't signed Cavani for another year then I could understand that but it makes no sense at the moment. Surely it'll be a game-changing CF if we did buy another one?
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour ago
It is sad that Martial has not kicked on. He is much more talented than Rashford but doesn’t have the application.
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I don't agree with this at all. Rashford has more than work rate. He's got talent too. He's struggling with injuries and still putting up very strong numbers.
Martial isn't rate that highly outside of this fanbase. He's actually looked on as a very average player. Rashford isn't.
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Martials decision making is better than Rashfords, but Rashford grafts
I don't agree with this at all
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Yes but your knowledge of football is limited. Martial has more talent than Rashford. He just does.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 40 minutes ago
It is sad that Martial has not kicked on. He is much more talented than Rashford but doesn’t have the application.
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I believe he's had some tragic family issues this year.
It happens.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 17 minutes ago
I don't agree with this at all
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Yes but your knowledge of football is limited. Martial has more talent than Rashford. He just does.
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Yours is more so I'd say if you truly believe that.
Always said the true test of how good our players are is rival fans and pundits. Our fanbase all have their favourites, myself included.
Don't hear hardly anyone who would have Martial over Rashford. Heck even a Rashford nowhere near fit this season has outshone Martial easily.
Rashford gets way too much stick than he should. It's a Tory thing I'm sure of it.
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 17 minutes ago
I don't agree with this at all
.....
Yes but your knowledge of football is limited. Martial has more talent than Rashford. He just does.
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Yours is more so I'd say if you truly believe that.
Always said the true test of how good our players are is rival fans and pundits. Our fanbase all have their favourites, myself included.
Don't hear hardly anyone who would have Martial over Rashford. Heck even a Rashford nowhere near fit this season has outshone Martial easily.
Rashford gets way too much stick than he should. It's a Tory thing I'm sure of it.
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Martial is better technically, but doesn't have the attitude to make the most of his talent, unlike Rashford.
Rashford vs Martial...
I'd say Martial is marginally the better technician, based on his close control and finishing, but also that Rashford is better technically than many believe, and the injury-hampered player of the last year or so has made people forget how impressive he can be when on song. Both of them could do with improvement in their decision making. Rashford I think has a superior skill set around the border between the middle third and the attacking third, with a better range of passing.
So in terms of 'talent' I think it's pretty close. But so often we see that natural born talent isn't only one element of what makes a top footballer. Quaresma was said to be the more talented young winger in the Sporting team that Ronaldo emerged from. To the extent that we can tell, Rashford seems to have the edge on Martial in terms of mentality, both in terms of work rate and determination to improve, and in terms of having a rounded view of life and the need to not get carried away with the emotion of football. His form fluctuates but generally his lows aren't as low and he his productivity in terms of goals and assists has fairly steadily increased. Last season was Rashford's best in terms of goals scored; this year he has basically equalled that while relinquishing penalty responsibilities to Bruno (he scored 6 last season, 1 this). Martial is a more sporadic player. If you look at their whole careers to date, Martial and Rashford are remarkably similar in terms of goals, assists and goals per minute, but there's a much clearer trend line in Rashford's graph. With Martial it's really hard to predict what the next season (or next couple of matches) will look like.
comment by Plump - #LoveUtdHateGlazers (U22314)
posted 2 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 6 minutes ago
Martial is an interesting one. He wants to be the CF yet he's now 2nd maybe 3rd choice there.
He's no better than Rashford on the left. In fact Rashford and Shaw compliment each other far more. And we also have Pogba sharing the LW duties currently.
I think Martial's days are numbered if we sign Sancho as that would mean Greenwood will get more time upfront.
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This
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It wouldn't mean that because it gives us 6 men for 3 positions. the perfect number.
Dan James will be the one to leave imo
Rashford gets way too much stick than he should. It's a Tory thing I'm sure of it.
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Maybe. Surely whoever is advising Rashy over his political ambitions (if there is anybody) has mentioned to Rashy that basically becoming more effective in highlighting the unfairness in the Government's social policies, specifically relating to low income families and those dependent on benefits, than Her Majesty's Opposition has been, wont ruffle a few feathers of Tory voters who overwhelmingly elected this lot.
Didn't realise you were a tory RBW.
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posted on 19/5/21
No chance
Son and Alli are better than them and Spurs would still need to buy a replacement CF
posted on 19/5/21
No way.
If we don’t want Martial then we will do well to get £20m for him. Likewise with JLingz, just because he’s done well doesn’t mean we will get much for him as he’s widely acknowledged to be surplus at United.
posted on 19/5/21
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 44 minutes ago
No way.
If we don’t want Martial then we will do well to get £20m for him. Likewise with JLingz, just because he’s done well doesn’t mean we will get much for him as he’s widely acknowledged to be surplus at United.
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I think you'd find an awful lot of teams that want both players if available which creates buying competition.
At the same time, both would be just fine staying with the club, also preventing a bargain for other teams...
The thing is, we always sell players too cheap anyway, so despite this i don't expect much for Lingz
posted on 19/5/21
Martial is an interesting one. He wants to be the CF yet he's now 2nd maybe 3rd choice there.
He's no better than Rashford on the left. In fact Rashford and Shaw compliment each other far more. And we also have Pogba sharing the LW duties currently.
I think Martial's days are numbered if we sign Sancho as that would mean Greenwood will get more time upfront.
posted on 19/5/21
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 6 minutes ago
Martial is an interesting one. He wants to be the CF yet he's now 2nd maybe 3rd choice there.
He's no better than Rashford on the left. In fact Rashford and Shaw compliment each other far more. And we also have Pogba sharing the LW duties currently.
I think Martial's days are numbered if we sign Sancho as that would mean Greenwood will get more time upfront.
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This
posted on 19/5/21
I would personally drive Martial to spurs or wherever, 100% yes as a swap for Kane. Not sure if its his attitude or character, its not cut out for the top. At this level motivation should come from within instead it takes Ole and his staff to motivate him constantly.
posted on 19/5/21
It is sad that Martial has not kicked on. He is much more talented than Rashford but doesn’t have the application.
posted on 19/5/21
I had high hopes for Martial this season after a good last season but as usual it’s one step forward two steps back with him.
posted on 19/5/21
Martial is destined to be one of those players where it'll look like a mistake to sell him (as he plays much better for his new club) but that it could also be a mistake to keep.
There's definitely a talented player in there though and it'd be great to see it consistently. He hasn't taken too kindly to be presented with any challenge to his place. Funnily enough the time he did look up for the challenge was Jose's second season when he and Rashford battled for the LW spot at the start of the season.
posted on 19/5/21
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 43 seconds ago
Martial is destined to be one of those players where it'll look like a mistake to sell him (as he plays much better for his new club) but that it could also be a mistake to keep.
There's definitely a talented player in there though and it'd be great to see it consistently. He hasn't taken too kindly to be presented with any challenge to his place. Funnily enough the time he did look up for the challenge was Jose's second season when he and Rashford battled for the LW spot at the start of the season.
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And then we signed Sanchez and moved him to the right initially.
posted on 19/5/21
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 43 seconds ago
Martial is destined to be one of those players where it'll look like a mistake to sell him (as he plays much better for his new club) but that it could also be a mistake to keep.
There's definitely a talented player in there though and it'd be great to see it consistently. He hasn't taken too kindly to be presented with any challenge to his place. Funnily enough the time he did look up for the challenge was Jose's second season when he and Rashford battled for the LW spot at the start of the season.
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And then we signed Sanchez and moved him to the right initially.
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I'll admit to being excited when we signed Sanchez but what a disaster the signing was. I'd never criticise him for lack of effort but he just didn't do it did he sadly.
posted on 19/5/21
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 43 seconds ago
Martial is destined to be one of those players where it'll look like a mistake to sell him (as he plays much better for his new club) but that it could also be a mistake to keep.
There's definitely a talented player in there though and it'd be great to see it consistently. He hasn't taken too kindly to be presented with any challenge to his place. Funnily enough the time he did look up for the challenge was Jose's second season when he and Rashford battled for the LW spot at the start of the season.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And then we signed Sanchez and moved him to the right initially.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'll admit to being excited when we signed Sanchez but what a disaster the signing was. I'd never criticise him for lack of effort but he just didn't do it did he sadly.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ya me too. Thought he could take us up another level but other than the odd glimpse in his first 6 months he was truly dreadful for us.
posted on 19/5/21
Ed has to keep the "Buy High and Sell Low" tradition - he'll be involved in this and can't lose face.
posted on 19/5/21
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour ago
It is sad that Martial has not kicked on. He is much more talented than Rashford but doesn’t have the application.
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I don't agree with this at all. Rashford has more than work rate. He's got talent too. He's struggling with injuries and still putting up very strong numbers.
Martial isn't rate that highly outside of this fanbase. He's actually looked on as a very average player. Rashford isn't.
posted on 19/5/21
Danny Ings has been linked today with United - https://twitter.com/utdreport/status/1395013103050543107?s=20
If we hadn't signed Cavani for another year then I could understand that but it makes no sense at the moment. Surely it'll be a game-changing CF if we did buy another one?
posted on 19/5/21
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour ago
It is sad that Martial has not kicked on. He is much more talented than Rashford but doesn’t have the application.
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I don't agree with this at all. Rashford has more than work rate. He's got talent too. He's struggling with injuries and still putting up very strong numbers.
Martial isn't rate that highly outside of this fanbase. He's actually looked on as a very average player. Rashford isn't.
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Martials decision making is better than Rashfords, but Rashford grafts
posted on 19/5/21
I don't agree with this at all
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Yes but your knowledge of football is limited. Martial has more talent than Rashford. He just does.
posted on 19/5/21
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 40 minutes ago
It is sad that Martial has not kicked on. He is much more talented than Rashford but doesn’t have the application.
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I believe he's had some tragic family issues this year.
It happens.
posted on 19/5/21
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 17 minutes ago
I don't agree with this at all
.....
Yes but your knowledge of football is limited. Martial has more talent than Rashford. He just does.
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Yours is more so I'd say if you truly believe that.
Always said the true test of how good our players are is rival fans and pundits. Our fanbase all have their favourites, myself included.
Don't hear hardly anyone who would have Martial over Rashford. Heck even a Rashford nowhere near fit this season has outshone Martial easily.
Rashford gets way too much stick than he should. It's a Tory thing I'm sure of it.
posted on 19/5/21
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 17 minutes ago
I don't agree with this at all
.....
Yes but your knowledge of football is limited. Martial has more talent than Rashford. He just does.
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Yours is more so I'd say if you truly believe that.
Always said the true test of how good our players are is rival fans and pundits. Our fanbase all have their favourites, myself included.
Don't hear hardly anyone who would have Martial over Rashford. Heck even a Rashford nowhere near fit this season has outshone Martial easily.
Rashford gets way too much stick than he should. It's a Tory thing I'm sure of it.
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Martial is better technically, but doesn't have the attitude to make the most of his talent, unlike Rashford.
posted on 19/5/21
Rashford vs Martial...
I'd say Martial is marginally the better technician, based on his close control and finishing, but also that Rashford is better technically than many believe, and the injury-hampered player of the last year or so has made people forget how impressive he can be when on song. Both of them could do with improvement in their decision making. Rashford I think has a superior skill set around the border between the middle third and the attacking third, with a better range of passing.
So in terms of 'talent' I think it's pretty close. But so often we see that natural born talent isn't only one element of what makes a top footballer. Quaresma was said to be the more talented young winger in the Sporting team that Ronaldo emerged from. To the extent that we can tell, Rashford seems to have the edge on Martial in terms of mentality, both in terms of work rate and determination to improve, and in terms of having a rounded view of life and the need to not get carried away with the emotion of football. His form fluctuates but generally his lows aren't as low and he his productivity in terms of goals and assists has fairly steadily increased. Last season was Rashford's best in terms of goals scored; this year he has basically equalled that while relinquishing penalty responsibilities to Bruno (he scored 6 last season, 1 this). Martial is a more sporadic player. If you look at their whole careers to date, Martial and Rashford are remarkably similar in terms of goals, assists and goals per minute, but there's a much clearer trend line in Rashford's graph. With Martial it's really hard to predict what the next season (or next couple of matches) will look like.
posted on 19/5/21
comment by Plump - #LoveUtdHateGlazers (U22314)
posted 2 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 6 minutes ago
Martial is an interesting one. He wants to be the CF yet he's now 2nd maybe 3rd choice there.
He's no better than Rashford on the left. In fact Rashford and Shaw compliment each other far more. And we also have Pogba sharing the LW duties currently.
I think Martial's days are numbered if we sign Sancho as that would mean Greenwood will get more time upfront.
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This
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It wouldn't mean that because it gives us 6 men for 3 positions. the perfect number.
Dan James will be the one to leave imo
posted on 19/5/21
Rashford gets way too much stick than he should. It's a Tory thing I'm sure of it.
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Maybe. Surely whoever is advising Rashy over his political ambitions (if there is anybody) has mentioned to Rashy that basically becoming more effective in highlighting the unfairness in the Government's social policies, specifically relating to low income families and those dependent on benefits, than Her Majesty's Opposition has been, wont ruffle a few feathers of Tory voters who overwhelmingly elected this lot.
posted on 19/5/21
*might, no won't ruffle
posted on 19/5/21
Didn't realise you were a tory RBW.
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