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Why the boos at the England matches?

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posted on 7/6/21

comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by MourGONEho (U22347)
posted 27 seconds ago
There is simply no logical explanation for booing players taking the knee, other than racism.

Players don't give a f*ck about the political implications, they are simply showing support for victims of racism. And I hope they continue to take the knee and highlight the systemic racism in our country.
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Then why did the same fans not boo the Kick it Out campaign pre-game announcements? In fact they always clapped it.
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Because even your garden variety racist, will play along as long as its not in their face on a continuous basis.
As I say, this isn't going away as many would like, so they look for a reason to connect their anger to some spurious nonsense, like defending the capitalist ideal, against some mental idea that millionaire footballers are promoting Marxism which ultimately will lead to revolution.😅
Truth is, most of those booing, are just sh1thouse racists.

comment by Phenom (U20037)

posted on 7/6/21

its not cause theyre racist for booing more just thick like some reasons mentioned already above

unfortunately we live in a world where the more you talk about something, the more the abuse comes out of the woodwork

posted on 7/6/21

comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 19 minutes ago
Because taking the knee is linked to BLM. BLM clearly are a political organisation who have some pretty far left goals such as ending capitalism, ending the nuclear family, defunding the police, its all on the websites both in the UK and US. The founders of BLM are self avowed "trained marxists" so yeah, not something anyone should be supporting.

Ask yourself this. If the booing was racist why did the same fans always clap for the Kick it Out pre-game announcement - which is clearly a charity and not a political movement?
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Nonsense, taking the knee was out long before BLM was formed. It is purely a gesture aimed at the racists. Racists are hiding behind the political nonsense.

If I was the players, as soon as the slightest hint of booing started, I would just walk off.

comment by add912 (U9189)

posted on 7/6/21

With all the different answers you see here you can see that there is more than one answer.

Some boo because think that politics and sport should not mix

Some boo because they don't like what the political movement represents with the extreme political views

Others don't like that the society that they are living in is being framed to be a racist one when they feel that it is one of the most inclusive to have ever existed

Some boo because they see others do it and just follow along

And yes, some actually boo because they are racist and don't support the message...

There are a million reasons for booing and it lazy to just boil it down for 1 reason.

The message has been warped by so many political actors now on both sides of the aisle so that this movement means something different to so many different people that the original message has been lost.


posted on 7/6/21

comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Every Single One Of U... (U1270)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 3 minutes ago
Because taking the knee is linked to BLM. BLM clearly are a political organisation who have some pretty far left goals such as ending capitalism, ending the nuclear family, defunding the police, its all on the websites both in the UK and US.

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Just had a look at blacklivesmatter.com, and I can't see those goals stated.

Probably missed them - can you let me know whereabouts the website states that their goals are ending capitalism, ending the nuclear family and defunding the police?
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That`s because their aims are not that. Those are just nonsense claims peddled by the Far Right to make out BLM are some cranky organisation that has to be wiped out at all costs. It is typical of your average Facist, get rid of all opposition. Farage is in his element with his BLM bashing.

posted on 7/6/21

comment by sandy, Ryan Mason, worse ever Spurs manager (U20567)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 19 minutes ago
Because taking the knee is linked to BLM. BLM clearly are a political organisation who have some pretty far left goals such as ending capitalism, ending the nuclear family, defunding the police, its all on the websites both in the UK and US. The founders of BLM are self avowed "trained marxists" so yeah, not something anyone should be supporting.

Ask yourself this. If the booing was racist why did the same fans always clap for the Kick it Out pre-game announcement - which is clearly a charity and not a political movement?
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Nonsense, taking the knee was out long before BLM was formed. It is purely a gesture aimed at the racists. Racists are hiding behind the political nonsense.

If I was the players, as soon as the slightest hint of booing started, I would just walk off.
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Taking the knee was also done during the American national anthem.

Watch the players all stand up and sing their national anthem and then kneel down after, entirely diluting the point.

posted on 7/6/21

comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 23 minutes ago

Like Harry Kane has read das kaptital or something ffs
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would make a great audiobook

posted on 7/6/21

comment by South Side (U20009)
posted 9 minutes ago
It's quite clearly political. Southgate is doing his best to distance the team from it. It won't go down well.

You can't really blame the players, they're not built for politics and they're obviously not aware of their actions.

If we start badly and the fans start booing the players it could turn a bit hostile. Especially in the pubs etc.

It's so divisive. But that's exactly what BLM the organisation set out to achieve.

It's a huge mess. It's a shame.
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LOL, BLM do nothing of the sort, it is your and your facist pals that are trying to turn one against the others.

posted on 7/6/21

comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 2 minutes ago
With all the different answers you see here you can see that there is more than one answer.

Some boo because think that politics and sport should not mix

Some boo because they don't like what the political movement represents with the extreme political views

Others don't like that the society that they are living in is being framed to be a racist one when they feel that it is one of the most inclusive to have ever existed

Some boo because they see others do it and just follow along

And yes, some actually boo because they are racist and don't support the message...

There are a million reasons for booing and it lazy to just boil it down for 1 reason.

The message has been warped by so many political actors now on both sides of the aisle so that this movement means something different to so many different people that the original message has been lost.



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Their is only one reason to boo and that is if you are a racist. All the other things are something racists hide behind.

posted on 7/6/21

comment by sandy, Ryan Mason, worse ever Spurs manager (U20567)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 19 minutes ago
Because taking the knee is linked to BLM. BLM clearly are a political organisation who have some pretty far left goals such as ending capitalism, ending the nuclear family, defunding the police, its all on the websites both in the UK and US. The founders of BLM are self avowed "trained marxists" so yeah, not something anyone should be supporting.

Ask yourself this. If the booing was racist why did the same fans always clap for the Kick it Out pre-game announcement - which is clearly a charity and not a political movement?
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Nonsense, taking the knee was out long before BLM was formed. It is purely a gesture aimed at the racists. Racists are hiding behind the political nonsense.

If I was the players, as soon as the slightest hint of booing started, I would just walk off.
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Why do people choose to ignore the political aspect to taking the knee? It just seems to be another reason to hit people over the head with the racist bollocks.

We only started taking the knee after what happened in the States. BLM are officially recognised as a political party. Most of their policies are disgraceful, unless you are of a certain political persuasion you wouldn't agree with them. Sky Sports and the Premier League decided to use a logo of a political party and still do.

It's nothing to do with racism. People just don't want to be preached to and talked down to after spending an arm and a leg to watch the footy.

That's my view.

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posted on 7/6/21

comment by sandy, Ryan Mason, worse ever Spurs manager (U20567)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Every Single One Of U... (U1270)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 3 minutes ago
Because taking the knee is linked to BLM. BLM clearly are a political organisation who have some pretty far left goals such as ending capitalism, ending the nuclear family, defunding the police, its all on the websites both in the UK and US.

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Just had a look at blacklivesmatter.com, and I can't see those goals stated.

Probably missed them - can you let me know whereabouts the website states that their goals are ending capitalism, ending the nuclear family and defunding the police?
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That`s because their aims are not that. Those are just nonsense claims peddled by the Far Right to make out BLM are some cranky organisation that has to be wiped out at all costs. It is typical of your average Facist, get rid of all opposition. Farage is in his element with his BLM bashing.
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Yup, throw counter accusations, change the narrative, control the conversation and deflect from the issues.

Textbook.

posted on 7/6/21

Did someone actually just say that BLM is "nothing to do with racism"?

Lordy.

posted on 7/6/21

There are two options, they are either very uneducated and don't understand what taking a knee means or simply they are racist.

posted on 7/6/21

“ Why do people choose to ignore the political aspect to taking the knee? It just seems to be another reason to hit people over the head with the racist b.........”

Bloody swear filter filtered out your last word for me but not you

Pretty easy to say this when it doesn’t affect you. Players have been very vocal about how racist abuse, at games, in person or over social media affects them. Hence taking a knee as well.

There’s also been an increase in incidents or they are becoming more publicised highlighting there’s actually a problem that needs addressing.

posted on 7/6/21

comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by South Side (U20009)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by sandy, Ryan Mason, worse ever Spurs manager (U20567)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 19 minutes ago
Because taking the knee is linked to BLM. BLM clearly are a political organisation who have some pretty far left goals such as ending capitalism, ending the nuclear family, defunding the police, its all on the websites both in the UK and US. The founders of BLM are self avowed "trained marxists" so yeah, not something anyone should be supporting.

Ask yourself this. If the booing was racist why did the same fans always clap for the Kick it Out pre-game announcement - which is clearly a charity and not a political movement?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Nonsense, taking the knee was out long before BLM was formed. It is purely a gesture aimed at the racists. Racists are hiding behind the political nonsense.

If I was the players, as soon as the slightest hint of booing started, I would just walk off.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Why do people choose to ignore the political aspect to taking the knee? It just seems to be another reason to hit people over the head with the racist bollocks.

We only started taking the knee after what happened in the States. BLM are officially recognised as a political party. Most of their policies are disgraceful, unless you are of a certain political persuasion you wouldn't agree with them. Sky Sports and the Premier League decided to use a logo of a political party and still do.

It's nothing to do with racism. People just don't want to be preached to and talked down to after spending an arm and a leg to watch the footy.

That's my view.
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Can you post some of their official policies that are disgraceful?
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There an extreme political party.

Setting out to disrupt the Western prescribed nuclear family unit for a start. What a most of us want in life. A wife and kids. I don't think many would want to be associated with that.



posted on 7/6/21

I don’t see the point of taking the knee or what it is supposed to achieve.

Decent, non racist people don’t need the message ramming down their throat, and the racists out there just ignore or boo it.

posted on 7/6/21

comment by South Side (U20009)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by South Side (U20009)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by sandy, Ryan Mason, worse ever Spurs manager (U20567)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 19 minutes ago
Because taking the knee is linked to BLM. BLM clearly are a political organisation who have some pretty far left goals such as ending capitalism, ending the nuclear family, defunding the police, its all on the websites both in the UK and US. The founders of BLM are self avowed "trained marxists" so yeah, not something anyone should be supporting.

Ask yourself this. If the booing was racist why did the same fans always clap for the Kick it Out pre-game announcement - which is clearly a charity and not a political movement?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Nonsense, taking the knee was out long before BLM was formed. It is purely a gesture aimed at the racists. Racists are hiding behind the political nonsense.

If I was the players, as soon as the slightest hint of booing started, I would just walk off.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Why do people choose to ignore the political aspect to taking the knee? It just seems to be another reason to hit people over the head with the racist bollocks.

We only started taking the knee after what happened in the States. BLM are officially recognised as a political party. Most of their policies are disgraceful, unless you are of a certain political persuasion you wouldn't agree with them. Sky Sports and the Premier League decided to use a logo of a political party and still do.

It's nothing to do with racism. People just don't want to be preached to and talked down to after spending an arm and a leg to watch the footy.

That's my view.
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Can you post some of their official policies that are disgraceful?
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There an extreme political party.

Setting out to disrupt the Western prescribed nuclear family unit for a start. What a most of us want in life. A wife and kids. I don't think many would want to be associated with that.
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Just post the link where they say that instead of interpreting what you think they mean.

posted on 7/6/21

comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 23 seconds ago
“ Why do people choose to ignore the political aspect to taking the knee? It just seems to be another reason to hit people over the head with the racist b.........”

Bloody swear filter filtered out your last word for me but not you

Pretty easy to say this when it doesn’t affect you. Players have been very vocal about how racist abuse, at games, in person or over social media affects them. Hence taking a knee as well.

There’s also been an increase in incidents or they are becoming more publicised highlighting there’s actually a problem that needs addressing.
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As I said, I feel sorry for the players.

They need clear instructions from the top down.

It's the gesture that's wrong. Not the message.

posted on 7/6/21

“ There an extreme political party.”

They are not a political party. Find any evidence showing they are?

BLMUK tried to register as one but it was rejected

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9262133/amp/Electoral-Commission-REJECTS-controversial-bid-make-Black-Lives-Matter-political-party.html

The US contingent and world wide also is not classified as a political party.

comment by add912 (U9189)

posted on 7/6/21

comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by South Side (U20009)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by sandy, Ryan Mason, worse ever Spurs manager (U20567)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 19 minutes ago
Because taking the knee is linked to BLM. BLM clearly are a political organisation who have some pretty far left goals such as ending capitalism, ending the nuclear family, defunding the police, its all on the websites both in the UK and US. The founders of BLM are self avowed "trained marxists" so yeah, not something anyone should be supporting.

Ask yourself this. If the booing was racist why did the same fans always clap for the Kick it Out pre-game announcement - which is clearly a charity and not a political movement?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Nonsense, taking the knee was out long before BLM was formed. It is purely a gesture aimed at the racists. Racists are hiding behind the political nonsense.

If I was the players, as soon as the slightest hint of booing started, I would just walk off.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Why do people choose to ignore the political aspect to taking the knee? It just seems to be another reason to hit people over the head with the racist bollocks.

We only started taking the knee after what happened in the States. BLM are officially recognised as a political party. Most of their policies are disgraceful, unless you are of a certain political persuasion you wouldn't agree with them. Sky Sports and the Premier League decided to use a logo of a political party and still do.

It's nothing to do with racism. People just don't want to be preached to and talked down to after spending an arm and a leg to watch the footy.

That's my view.
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Can you post some of their official policies that are disgraceful?
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I think that he is talking about the Marxist agenda. Back in the summer last year I did read something on their website about seeking to disrupt the Nuclear family and them being trained Marxists. I wanted to check for myself as people had told me about this and I didn't really believe what people were telling me. It felt like disinformation/propaganda. However, it was true which made me a little uncomfortable to be honest as that felt like it was over-reaching from the original aims - and I was not sure how Marxism had anything to do with it.

I went back to the website about 1 month ago and it looks like they have removed them from there so maybe they have removed some of the more extreme elements from their manifesto but it was definitely there.

posted on 7/6/21

“ It's the gesture that's wrong. Not the message.”

The players, the ones being subjected to racist abuse, disagree.

posted on 7/6/21

comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Every Single One Of Us Loves Alex Ferguson (U1270)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by South Side (U20009)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by South Side (U20009)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by sandy, Ryan Mason, worse ever Spurs manager (U20567)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 19 minutes ago
Because taking the knee is linked to BLM. BLM clearly are a political organisation who have some pretty far left goals such as ending capitalism, ending the nuclear family, defunding the police, its all on the websites both in the UK and US. The founders of BLM are self avowed "trained marxists" so yeah, not something anyone should be supporting.

Ask yourself this. If the booing was racist why did the same fans always clap for the Kick it Out pre-game announcement - which is clearly a charity and not a political movement?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Nonsense, taking the knee was out long before BLM was formed. It is purely a gesture aimed at the racists. Racists are hiding behind the political nonsense.

If I was the players, as soon as the slightest hint of booing started, I would just walk off.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Why do people choose to ignore the political aspect to taking the knee? It just seems to be another reason to hit people over the head with the racist bollocks.

We only started taking the knee after what happened in the States. BLM are officially recognised as a political party. Most of their policies are disgraceful, unless you are of a certain political persuasion you wouldn't agree with them. Sky Sports and the Premier League decided to use a logo of a political party and still do.

It's nothing to do with racism. People just don't want to be preached to and talked down to after spending an arm and a leg to watch the footy.

That's my view.
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Can you post some of their official policies that are disgraceful?
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There an extreme political party.

Setting out to disrupt the Western prescribed nuclear family unit for a start. What a most of us want in life. A wife and kids. I don't think many would want to be associated with that.
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Just post the link where they say that instead of interpreting what you think they mean.
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Search on Google for their original values. It's all there. They've had a clean up of their website recently. Let's face it, it's not a good look.

posted on 7/6/21

comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by MourGONEho (U22347)
posted 27 seconds ago
There is simply no logical explanation for booing players taking the knee, other than racism.

Players don't give a f*ck about the political implications, they are simply showing support for victims of racism. And I hope they continue to take the knee and highlight the systemic racism in our country.
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Then why did the same fans not boo the Kick it Out campaign pre-game announcements? In fact they always clapped it.
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how do you know it's the same fans?

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