In this case, link many, the guy will be out on licence, part of which, I assume, will include some form of barring order, breach it and back inside you go.
comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 9 seconds ago
Other issues are where they live. How would everyone feel if he moved in next door? I know I would twitch.
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I have no experience of this, but I suspect the offender would be given a new identity to protect his/her rights. I'm aware it is given for murderers under the age of 18 (The Bulger case).
Whatever you think aboit the situation when somebody serves their court ordered sentence they shouldn't be kept in prison because social media says so.
If professionals think he has rehabilitated over the last 6 years and is able to rejoin society then I'm afraid his debt has been paid and that's what should happen, with life long strict restrictions.
You can't just alter a sentence because social media is desperate for an eye for an eye.
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comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Alisson Becker, Liverpool's Number 9 (U3979)
posted 3 minutes ago
Whatever you think aboit the situation when somebody serves their court ordered sentence they shouldn't be kept in prison because social media says so.
If professionals think he has rehabilitated over the last 6 years and is able to rejoin society then I'm afraid his debt has been paid and that's what should happen, with life long strict restrictions.
You can't just alter a sentence because social media is desperate for an eye for an eye.
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True. But I don't think anyone was suggesting social media should be the go to. 👍
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Just Shoot, I agree with you.
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Sgt Wilko 92 (U5983)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
I feel this depends on whether you believe in rehabilitation or not.
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So would you free this man back into society? The two teenage girls will never have that opportunity. That is why I believe full life sentences are relevant in some cases, including this one.
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If he is deemed no threat to society then yes. I don't really believe in jail myself but completely understand those who want to see people rot.
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You don't believe in jail? What do you believe should happen if someone killed a loved one of yours?
I do wonder how much say the victims families do get/should get a say because I have a daughter and if this happened to her I'd just want him gone.
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I definitely think the victim impact statement sways a judges sentencing.
I’d have no issue in kicking the stool from under him and watching him choke till the life drained out of his evil body
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comment by joeymancityz. (U4783)
posted 1 minute ago
I’d have no issue in kicking the stool from under him and watching him choke till the life drained out of his evil body
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Not a fan of the concept of rehabilitation I assume
comment by Alisson Becker, Liverpool's Number 9 (U3979)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
Whatever you think aboit the situation when somebody serves their court ordered sentence they shouldn't be kept in prison because social media says so.
If professionals think he has rehabilitated over the last 6 years and is able to rejoin society then I'm afraid his debt has been paid and that's what should happen, with life long strict restrictions.
You can't just alter a sentence because social media is desperate for an eye for an eye.
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I get what you are saying but under current laws he would have seen his remaining life in jail. Life means life kind of thing.
Which them begs the question if he can be rehabilitated then why not someone now? Or what about the ripper or hindley etc?
Rehabilitation is fine for most crimes but taking a life with no mitigating factors should mean life in prison or death.
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by Alisson Becker, Liverpool's Number 9 (U3979)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
Whatever you think aboit the situation when somebody serves their court ordered sentence they shouldn't be kept in prison because social media says so.
If professionals think he has rehabilitated over the last 6 years and is able to rejoin society then I'm afraid his debt has been paid and that's what should happen, with life long strict restrictions.
You can't just alter a sentence because social media is desperate for an eye for an eye.
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I get what you are saying but under current laws he would have seen his remaining life in jail. Life means life kind of thing.
Which them begs the question if he can be rehabilitated then why not someone now? Or what about the ripper or hindley etc?
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But he was sentenced 30 odd years ago. So it's kind of irrelevant.
From what I can gather as far back as 2009 he's been steadily rehabilitated. From 2009:
"The judges said on Thursday that they allowed the appeal to a very limited extent because of Pitchfork's "exceptional progress" in custody.
The court heard that the double killer had become a specialist in the transcription of printed music into Braille and achieved a high educational standard up to degree level.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/8051513.stm
And that his "release is subject to a number of licence conditions, such as living at a designated address and being subject to a curfew."
"If Colin Pitchfork is released, he will be closely supervised by the probation service for the rest of his life and can be brought back to prison if he breaks the strict conditions he will be subject to."
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leicestershire-57398780
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Percy Pig aficio... (U3126)
posted 4 minutes ago
From what I can gather as far back as 2009 he's been steadily rehabilitated. From 2009:
"The judges said on Thursday that they allowed the appeal to a very limited extent because of Pitchfork's "exceptional progress" in custody.
The court heard that the double killer had become a specialist in the transcription of printed music into Braille and achieved a high educational standard up to degree level.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/8051513.stm
And that his "release is subject to a number of licence conditions, such as living at a designated address and being subject to a curfew."
"If Colin Pitchfork is released, he will be closely supervised by the probation service for the rest of his life and can be brought back to prison if he breaks the strict conditions he will be subject to."
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leicestershire-57398780
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All fair enough until a dead, raped young girl turns up. Nonces cannot be rehibiltated without medical intervention.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Percy Pig aficio... (U3126)
posted 4 minutes ago
From what I can gather as far back as 2009 he's been steadily rehabilitated. From 2009:
"The judges said on Thursday that they allowed the appeal to a very limited extent because of Pitchfork's "exceptional progress" in custody.
The court heard that the double killer had become a specialist in the transcription of printed music into Braille and achieved a high educational standard up to degree level.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/8051513.stm
And that his "release is subject to a number of licence conditions, such as living at a designated address and being subject to a curfew."
"If Colin Pitchfork is released, he will be closely supervised by the probation service for the rest of his life and can be brought back to prison if he breaks the strict conditions he will be subject to."
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leicestershire-57398780
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All fair enough until a dead, raped young girl turns up. Nonces cannot be rehibiltated without medical intervention.
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Which he has received.
According to the various medical professionals, psychologists, behavioral therapists (including the parole boards) who have assessed him over the last number of years concluded Pitchfork poses no risk to public safety. Hence their decision to release him.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Percy Pig aficionado (U3126)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Percy Pig aficio... (U3126)
posted 4 minutes ago
From what I can gather as far back as 2009 he's been steadily rehabilitated. From 2009:
"The judges said on Thursday that they allowed the appeal to a very limited extent because of Pitchfork's "exceptional progress" in custody.
The court heard that the double killer had become a specialist in the transcription of printed music into Braille and achieved a high educational standard up to degree level.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/8051513.stm
And that his "release is subject to a number of licence conditions, such as living at a designated address and being subject to a curfew."
"If Colin Pitchfork is released, he will be closely supervised by the probation service for the rest of his life and can be brought back to prison if he breaks the strict conditions he will be subject to."
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leicestershire-57398780
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All fair enough until a dead, raped young girl turns up. Nonces cannot be rehibiltated without medical intervention.
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Which he has received.
According to the various medical professionals, psychologists, behavioral therapists (including the parole boards) who have assessed him over the last number of years concluded Pitchfork poses no risk to public safety. Hence their decision to release him.
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Thank you for your post Stuart Pearce. It still doesn't change my mind that he has an opportunity to live a life of freedom, albeit under what I imagine will be strict conditions. He'll be able to see his family (providing they have come to terms with what he has done), he'll be able to soak up the sun at a park, perhaps visit the seaside. All things he has denied the two people he murdered. I don't ask for anyone to agree with me, and accept that when he was initially sentenced, no full life tariff was available. It wasn't available when Brady, Hindley and Sutcliffe committed their heinous crimes, but they died behind bars didn't they. My apologies for the anger.
comment by Sgt Wilko 92 (U5983)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Percy Pig aficionado (U3126)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Percy Pig aficio... (U3126)
posted 4 minutes ago
From what I can gather as far back as 2009 he's been steadily rehabilitated. From 2009:
"The judges said on Thursday that they allowed the appeal to a very limited extent because of Pitchfork's "exceptional progress" in custody.
The court heard that the double killer had become a specialist in the transcription of printed music into Braille and achieved a high educational standard up to degree level.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/8051513.stm
And that his "release is subject to a number of licence conditions, such as living at a designated address and being subject to a curfew."
"If Colin Pitchfork is released, he will be closely supervised by the probation service for the rest of his life and can be brought back to prison if he breaks the strict conditions he will be subject to."
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leicestershire-57398780
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All fair enough until a dead, raped young girl turns up. Nonces cannot be rehibiltated without medical intervention.
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Which he has received.
According to the various medical professionals, psychologists, behavioral therapists (including the parole boards) who have assessed him over the last number of years concluded Pitchfork poses no risk to public safety. Hence their decision to release him.
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Thank you for your post Stuart Pearce. It still doesn't change my mind that he has an opportunity to live a life of freedom, albeit under what I imagine will be strict conditions. He'll be able to see his family (providing they have come to terms with what he has done), he'll be able to soak up the sun at a park, perhaps visit the seaside. All things he has denied the two people he murdered. I don't ask for anyone to agree with me, and accept that when he was initially sentenced, no full life tariff was available. It wasn't available when Brady, Hindley and Sutcliffe committed their heinous crimes, but they died behind bars didn't they. My apologies for the anger.
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It's an emotive topic.
Whilst sentencing guidelines are far more robust now, impossible to retrospectively implement today's guidelines in respect to crimes committed many years ago. Unfortunately even ones as reprehensible as Pitchforks.
Which he has received.
According to the various medical professionals, psychologists, behavioral therapists (including the parole boards) who have assessed him over the last number of years concluded Pitchfork poses no risk to public safety. Hence their decision to release him.
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Assessments aren't medical intervention. Numerous people have been assessed and declared safe for release only to re-offend very quickly.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 5 minutes ago
Which he has received.
According to the various medical professionals, psychologists, behavioral therapists (including the parole boards) who have assessed him over the last number of years concluded Pitchfork poses no risk to public safety. Hence their decision to release him.
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Assessments aren't medical intervention. Numerous people have been assessed and declared safe for release only to re-offend very quickly.
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The parole board had a host of expert/specialists at their disposal to fully assess the public health risk, following the completion of his custodial sentence a number of years ago. And whilst no assessment can ever be 100% certain, a decision was made based on years of continual rigorous evaluation.
The *only* (legal) grounds the board had to not release him was if he risked reoffending, and/or represented a public health risk.
In 2009 his sentence was reduced by 2yrs in light of his "exceptional [rehabilitation] progress"
In 2017 he was moved to an open prison. Where there was minimal supervision and little security. Prisoners often out of their cells - eg to go to work. Where he has resided ever since.
Regardless of strength of feeling of what he did, (which anyone would agree was reprehensible) either people accept the rule of law/the judiciary process, or not.
Or we forget about even trying to rehabilitate offenders.
Or we forget about even trying to rehabilitate offenders
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Nonces who rape and murder, yes we should.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 29 seconds ago
Or we forget about even trying to rehabilitate offenders
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Nonces who rape and murder, yes we should.
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So even if they can be proven to be rehabilitated, you disagree?
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posted on 8/6/21
In this case, link many, the guy will be out on licence, part of which, I assume, will include some form of barring order, breach it and back inside you go.
posted on 8/6/21
comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 9 seconds ago
Other issues are where they live. How would everyone feel if he moved in next door? I know I would twitch.
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I have no experience of this, but I suspect the offender would be given a new identity to protect his/her rights. I'm aware it is given for murderers under the age of 18 (The Bulger case).
posted on 8/6/21
Whatever you think aboit the situation when somebody serves their court ordered sentence they shouldn't be kept in prison because social media says so.
If professionals think he has rehabilitated over the last 6 years and is able to rejoin society then I'm afraid his debt has been paid and that's what should happen, with life long strict restrictions.
You can't just alter a sentence because social media is desperate for an eye for an eye.
posted on 8/6/21
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posted on 8/6/21
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posted on 8/6/21
comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Alisson Becker, Liverpool's Number 9 (U3979)
posted 3 minutes ago
Whatever you think aboit the situation when somebody serves their court ordered sentence they shouldn't be kept in prison because social media says so.
If professionals think he has rehabilitated over the last 6 years and is able to rejoin society then I'm afraid his debt has been paid and that's what should happen, with life long strict restrictions.
You can't just alter a sentence because social media is desperate for an eye for an eye.
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True. But I don't think anyone was suggesting social media should be the go to. 👍
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Just Shoot, I agree with you.
posted on 8/6/21
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Sgt Wilko 92 (U5983)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
I feel this depends on whether you believe in rehabilitation or not.
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So would you free this man back into society? The two teenage girls will never have that opportunity. That is why I believe full life sentences are relevant in some cases, including this one.
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If he is deemed no threat to society then yes. I don't really believe in jail myself but completely understand those who want to see people rot.
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You don't believe in jail? What do you believe should happen if someone killed a loved one of yours?
posted on 8/6/21
I do wonder how much say the victims families do get/should get a say because I have a daughter and if this happened to her I'd just want him gone.
posted on 8/6/21
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posted on 8/6/21
I definitely think the victim impact statement sways a judges sentencing.
posted on 8/6/21
I’d have no issue in kicking the stool from under him and watching him choke till the life drained out of his evil body
posted on 8/6/21
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posted on 8/6/21
comment by joeymancityz. (U4783)
posted 1 minute ago
I’d have no issue in kicking the stool from under him and watching him choke till the life drained out of his evil body
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Not a fan of the concept of rehabilitation I assume
posted on 8/6/21
comment by Alisson Becker, Liverpool's Number 9 (U3979)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
Whatever you think aboit the situation when somebody serves their court ordered sentence they shouldn't be kept in prison because social media says so.
If professionals think he has rehabilitated over the last 6 years and is able to rejoin society then I'm afraid his debt has been paid and that's what should happen, with life long strict restrictions.
You can't just alter a sentence because social media is desperate for an eye for an eye.
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I get what you are saying but under current laws he would have seen his remaining life in jail. Life means life kind of thing.
Which them begs the question if he can be rehabilitated then why not someone now? Or what about the ripper or hindley etc?
posted on 8/6/21
Rehabilitation is fine for most crimes but taking a life with no mitigating factors should mean life in prison or death.
posted on 8/6/21
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by Alisson Becker, Liverpool's Number 9 (U3979)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
Whatever you think aboit the situation when somebody serves their court ordered sentence they shouldn't be kept in prison because social media says so.
If professionals think he has rehabilitated over the last 6 years and is able to rejoin society then I'm afraid his debt has been paid and that's what should happen, with life long strict restrictions.
You can't just alter a sentence because social media is desperate for an eye for an eye.
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I get what you are saying but under current laws he would have seen his remaining life in jail. Life means life kind of thing.
Which them begs the question if he can be rehabilitated then why not someone now? Or what about the ripper or hindley etc?
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But he was sentenced 30 odd years ago. So it's kind of irrelevant.
posted on 8/6/21
From what I can gather as far back as 2009 he's been steadily rehabilitated. From 2009:
"The judges said on Thursday that they allowed the appeal to a very limited extent because of Pitchfork's "exceptional progress" in custody.
The court heard that the double killer had become a specialist in the transcription of printed music into Braille and achieved a high educational standard up to degree level.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/8051513.stm
And that his "release is subject to a number of licence conditions, such as living at a designated address and being subject to a curfew."
"If Colin Pitchfork is released, he will be closely supervised by the probation service for the rest of his life and can be brought back to prison if he breaks the strict conditions he will be subject to."
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leicestershire-57398780
posted on 8/6/21
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Percy Pig aficio... (U3126)
posted 4 minutes ago
From what I can gather as far back as 2009 he's been steadily rehabilitated. From 2009:
"The judges said on Thursday that they allowed the appeal to a very limited extent because of Pitchfork's "exceptional progress" in custody.
The court heard that the double killer had become a specialist in the transcription of printed music into Braille and achieved a high educational standard up to degree level.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/8051513.stm
And that his "release is subject to a number of licence conditions, such as living at a designated address and being subject to a curfew."
"If Colin Pitchfork is released, he will be closely supervised by the probation service for the rest of his life and can be brought back to prison if he breaks the strict conditions he will be subject to."
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leicestershire-57398780
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All fair enough until a dead, raped young girl turns up. Nonces cannot be rehibiltated without medical intervention.
posted on 8/6/21
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Percy Pig aficio... (U3126)
posted 4 minutes ago
From what I can gather as far back as 2009 he's been steadily rehabilitated. From 2009:
"The judges said on Thursday that they allowed the appeal to a very limited extent because of Pitchfork's "exceptional progress" in custody.
The court heard that the double killer had become a specialist in the transcription of printed music into Braille and achieved a high educational standard up to degree level.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/8051513.stm
And that his "release is subject to a number of licence conditions, such as living at a designated address and being subject to a curfew."
"If Colin Pitchfork is released, he will be closely supervised by the probation service for the rest of his life and can be brought back to prison if he breaks the strict conditions he will be subject to."
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leicestershire-57398780
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All fair enough until a dead, raped young girl turns up. Nonces cannot be rehibiltated without medical intervention.
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Which he has received.
According to the various medical professionals, psychologists, behavioral therapists (including the parole boards) who have assessed him over the last number of years concluded Pitchfork poses no risk to public safety. Hence their decision to release him.
posted on 8/6/21
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Percy Pig aficionado (U3126)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Percy Pig aficio... (U3126)
posted 4 minutes ago
From what I can gather as far back as 2009 he's been steadily rehabilitated. From 2009:
"The judges said on Thursday that they allowed the appeal to a very limited extent because of Pitchfork's "exceptional progress" in custody.
The court heard that the double killer had become a specialist in the transcription of printed music into Braille and achieved a high educational standard up to degree level.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/8051513.stm
And that his "release is subject to a number of licence conditions, such as living at a designated address and being subject to a curfew."
"If Colin Pitchfork is released, he will be closely supervised by the probation service for the rest of his life and can be brought back to prison if he breaks the strict conditions he will be subject to."
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leicestershire-57398780
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All fair enough until a dead, raped young girl turns up. Nonces cannot be rehibiltated without medical intervention.
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Which he has received.
According to the various medical professionals, psychologists, behavioral therapists (including the parole boards) who have assessed him over the last number of years concluded Pitchfork poses no risk to public safety. Hence their decision to release him.
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Thank you for your post Stuart Pearce. It still doesn't change my mind that he has an opportunity to live a life of freedom, albeit under what I imagine will be strict conditions. He'll be able to see his family (providing they have come to terms with what he has done), he'll be able to soak up the sun at a park, perhaps visit the seaside. All things he has denied the two people he murdered. I don't ask for anyone to agree with me, and accept that when he was initially sentenced, no full life tariff was available. It wasn't available when Brady, Hindley and Sutcliffe committed their heinous crimes, but they died behind bars didn't they. My apologies for the anger.
posted on 8/6/21
comment by Sgt Wilko 92 (U5983)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Percy Pig aficionado (U3126)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Percy Pig aficio... (U3126)
posted 4 minutes ago
From what I can gather as far back as 2009 he's been steadily rehabilitated. From 2009:
"The judges said on Thursday that they allowed the appeal to a very limited extent because of Pitchfork's "exceptional progress" in custody.
The court heard that the double killer had become a specialist in the transcription of printed music into Braille and achieved a high educational standard up to degree level.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/8051513.stm
And that his "release is subject to a number of licence conditions, such as living at a designated address and being subject to a curfew."
"If Colin Pitchfork is released, he will be closely supervised by the probation service for the rest of his life and can be brought back to prison if he breaks the strict conditions he will be subject to."
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leicestershire-57398780
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All fair enough until a dead, raped young girl turns up. Nonces cannot be rehibiltated without medical intervention.
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Which he has received.
According to the various medical professionals, psychologists, behavioral therapists (including the parole boards) who have assessed him over the last number of years concluded Pitchfork poses no risk to public safety. Hence their decision to release him.
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Thank you for your post Stuart Pearce. It still doesn't change my mind that he has an opportunity to live a life of freedom, albeit under what I imagine will be strict conditions. He'll be able to see his family (providing they have come to terms with what he has done), he'll be able to soak up the sun at a park, perhaps visit the seaside. All things he has denied the two people he murdered. I don't ask for anyone to agree with me, and accept that when he was initially sentenced, no full life tariff was available. It wasn't available when Brady, Hindley and Sutcliffe committed their heinous crimes, but they died behind bars didn't they. My apologies for the anger.
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It's an emotive topic.
Whilst sentencing guidelines are far more robust now, impossible to retrospectively implement today's guidelines in respect to crimes committed many years ago. Unfortunately even ones as reprehensible as Pitchforks.
posted on 8/6/21
Which he has received.
According to the various medical professionals, psychologists, behavioral therapists (including the parole boards) who have assessed him over the last number of years concluded Pitchfork poses no risk to public safety. Hence their decision to release him.
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Assessments aren't medical intervention. Numerous people have been assessed and declared safe for release only to re-offend very quickly.
posted on 8/6/21
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 5 minutes ago
Which he has received.
According to the various medical professionals, psychologists, behavioral therapists (including the parole boards) who have assessed him over the last number of years concluded Pitchfork poses no risk to public safety. Hence their decision to release him.
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Assessments aren't medical intervention. Numerous people have been assessed and declared safe for release only to re-offend very quickly.
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The parole board had a host of expert/specialists at their disposal to fully assess the public health risk, following the completion of his custodial sentence a number of years ago. And whilst no assessment can ever be 100% certain, a decision was made based on years of continual rigorous evaluation.
The *only* (legal) grounds the board had to not release him was if he risked reoffending, and/or represented a public health risk.
In 2009 his sentence was reduced by 2yrs in light of his "exceptional [rehabilitation] progress"
In 2017 he was moved to an open prison. Where there was minimal supervision and little security. Prisoners often out of their cells - eg to go to work. Where he has resided ever since.
Regardless of strength of feeling of what he did, (which anyone would agree was reprehensible) either people accept the rule of law/the judiciary process, or not.
Or we forget about even trying to rehabilitate offenders.
posted on 8/6/21
Or we forget about even trying to rehabilitate offenders
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Nonces who rape and murder, yes we should.
posted on 8/6/21
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 29 seconds ago
Or we forget about even trying to rehabilitate offenders
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Nonces who rape and murder, yes we should.
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So even if they can be proven to be rehabilitated, you disagree?
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