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Attacking and Free Flowing.

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posted on 30/6/21

comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 6 minutes ago
Conte wouldn't be free flowing attacking.

I was rather impressed with Ukraine last night and their set up, I thought they played some good, progressive football with intent. Shevchenko's stock appears to be on the rise with some even saying is he in the "world class" bracket of managers. That's a bit over the top for me, but he's clearly coached a well-drilled Ukraine side who play some good football.

He may be a bit of a surprising choice (as if others haven't in the frame for Spurs), but I can't see how he'd do any worse than what's happened recently.
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Ironically there were murmurs of Rebrov also

posted on 30/6/21

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posted on 30/6/21

comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 8 minutes ago
I just want to go to games with a bit of optimism and enjoy it. The only times I've lost interest in spurs are under AVB and Jose. We've had much worse seasons in terms of finishing positions but I was far more interested than I was when these two cants were in charge.

Nuno is from the same school, sit back, absorb pressure and hope to score on the counter. For me, that's not what I want to watch. It also only gets you so far. Jol, Redknapp and Poch managed to get us punching above our weight as we improved with an attacking style. Sit back and defend managers are suited to midtable clubs, which is where we are heading.
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IF we get Nuno I don’t think we can compare Wolves squad to ours. Nuno’s Valencia football was progressive. I believe its down to your personnnel. You have to balance need for winning with attacking. Especially in a long arduous season.

posted on 30/6/21

comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 5 seconds ago
Fack me it’s gonna be Nuno isn’t it.

11 weeks of headhunting and that’s the best we can come up with, a bloke who plays dreary Joseball, who Wolves binned off and who we only want now because he’s free and one of Mendes clients.

What a sheite show.
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I think so. Doherty cant wait

posted on 30/6/21

Plenty of time for a Stevie G last minute winner..

comment by Phenom (U20037)

posted on 30/6/21

everytime i think about our squad there are just holes and imbalance everywhere

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posted on 30/6/21

I think Levy's comments were an acknowledgement by him that in Jose, the choice did not fit with many parts of our traditional identity, but one also has to acknowledge that Spurs fans have come to a point when a trophy is what most want most of all....attacking & flowing style really a secondary issue at this stage.

I think Jose got sacked because despite us getting to the final there was no development of the teams mentality. We were still slipping up in the big moments as we have done so often for so long. I think that was the key ingredient missing and the hope was Jose would bring that.

Our Cup final place reflected the ease of our draw, not a development to "mentality monsters". We are still as fragile as ever and proved that over the season.

As for the style, i think the aspiration of atatcking free flowing football has to be put into the context of the modern game whish is first and foremost about hard work and pressing, before then dominating a game with quality & possession. In reality, City don't play free flowing football, its highly possession based but often quite dull. Chelsea also play from a very solid defensive base, nullify the opposition and play from there. Liverpool a bit more free flowing, fast attacking, lots of crosses, less obsessed with possession but as we have seen over Klopps tenure it can be super effective or it can fail quite dramatically.

Poch's style met the modern way football is played. A meeting of attack and front foot football with the more pragmatic defensive pressing side of things. I'd take that again, quite happily.

posted on 30/6/21

comment by Phenom - you're a wizard Graham (U20037)
posted 18 seconds ago
everytime i think about our squad there are just holes and imbalance everywhere
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For me its athletic ball playing defenders. We need 2 more and preferably a left footed one.

comment by Phenom (U20037)

posted on 30/6/21

comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Phenom - you're a wizard Graham (U20037)
posted 18 seconds ago
everytime i think about our squad there are just holes and imbalance everywhere
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For me its athletic ball playing defenders. We need 2 more and preferably a left footed one.
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Kounde and Tomiyasu

comment by Phenom (U20037)

posted on 30/6/21

comment by Phenom - you're a wizard Graham (U20037)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Phenom - you're a wizard Graham (U20037)
posted 18 seconds ago
everytime i think about our squad there are just holes and imbalance everywhere
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For me its athletic ball playing defenders. We need 2 more and preferably a left footed one.
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Kounde and Tomiyasu
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latter both footed

posted on 30/6/21

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
I think Levy's comments were an acknowledgement by him that in Jose, the choice did not fit with many parts of our traditional identity, but one also has to acknowledge that Spurs fans have come to a point when a trophy is what most want most of all....attacking & flowing style really a secondary issue at this stage.

I think Jose got sacked because despite us getting to the final there was no development of the teams mentality. We were still slipping up in the big moments as we have done so often for so long. I think that was the key ingredient missing and the hope was Jose would bring that.

Our Cup final place reflected the ease of our draw, not a development to "mentality monsters". We are still as fragile as ever and proved that over the season.

As for the style, i think the aspiration of atatcking free flowing football has to be put into the context of the modern game whish is first and foremost about hard work and pressing, before then dominating a game with quality & possession. In reality, City don't play free flowing football, its highly possession based but often quite dull. Chelsea also play from a very solid defensive base, nullify the opposition and play from there. Liverpool a bit more free flowing, fast attacking, lots of crosses, less obsessed with possession but as we have seen over Klopps tenure it can be super effective or it can fail quite dramatically.

Poch's style met the modern way football is played. A meeting of attack and front foot football with the more pragmatic defensive pressing side of things. I'd take that again, quite happily.
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Agreed. I think some have taken Levy’s comments out of context and used it to rubbish any non-blockbuster manager. I still question why any blockbuster coach cannot get a job at a champions league team…but hey. Maybe managing in the prem is a bigger draw than playing champs league. Add the irony that the reason he would be taking over the Spurs job is to get us into the Champs league.

What a conundrum!

posted on 30/6/21

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posted on 30/6/21

Gilmour going to Norwich on loan. Hopefully means Skipp is staying with us next season.

posted on 30/6/21

Jose would have stayed despite the style had we looked like a team capable of going places, with the mindset of winners. Our squad was a bit deficient in places so no one expected Jose to make us champions but at least to add a steely determination and know how in the big moment. However, in almost every clinch moment we let it slip and while that was not always Jose's fault ( i can think of missed chances vs Liverpool which would have seen us win comfortably and possibly really kick on from there) the overall negative approach to games was a massive factor in many outcomes.

posted on 30/6/21

I'm really sceptical and concerned about Paratici and the reasons he managed to twist Levy's arm regarding the appointment of Nuno. To lean on the 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 system he had at Valencia a long while ago whilst ignoring his inability to transition to those formations at Wolves is a staggering lack of foresight. With the same manager in place for some time and the same agent suggesting players, they couldn't find a way out of the three at the back system. That says to me that he's naturally a conservative coach. Of course he is. He's a former goalkeeper. For Paratici to manage to pass him off successfully as a free-flowing attacking coach is an act of salesmanship rarely seen. What a load of bullsheet.

He's pulled the wool over Levy's eyes here. We all know he wants Nuno because of his Mendes connections, not some genius brainwave that he's magically found an attacking style in an inherently defensive coach.

Levy has basically screwed us all these years and now he's getting screwed himself. This paratici bloke is seriously bad news.

posted on 30/6/21

comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 6 minutes ago
Conte wouldn't be free flowing attacking.

I was rather impressed with Ukraine last night and their set up, I thought they played some good, progressive football with intent. Shevchenko's stock appears to be on the rise with some even saying is he in the "world class" bracket of managers. That's a bit over the top for me, but he's clearly coached a well-drilled Ukraine side who play some good football.

He may be a bit of a surprising choice (as if others haven't in the frame for Spurs), but I can't see how he'd do any worse than what's happened recently.
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Ironically there were murmurs of Rebrov also
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Similar story really, his stock appears to be rising on the continent as well and has done a good job so far wherever he's been for the main.

posted on 30/6/21

comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 31 minutes ago
I'm really sceptical and concerned about Paratici and the reasons he managed to twist Levy's arm regarding the appointment of Nuno. To lean on the 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 system he had at Valencia a long while ago whilst ignoring his inability to transition to those formations at Wolves is a staggering lack of foresight. With the same manager in place for some time and the same agent suggesting players, they couldn't find a way out of the three at the back system. That says to me that he's naturally a conservative coach. Of course he is. He's a former goalkeeper. For Paratici to manage to pass him off successfully as a free-flowing attacking coach is an act of salesmanship rarely seen. What a load of bullsheet.

He's pulled the wool over Levy's eyes here. We all know he wants Nuno because of his Mendes connections, not some genius brainwave that he's magically found an attacking style in an inherently defensive coach.

Levy has basically screwed us all these years and now he's getting screwed himself. This paratici bloke is seriously bad news.
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Absolutely correct. I would love to know the financial breakdown of the Ronaldo transfer to Juventus every last penny and where it went. Would make fascinating reading. We know Mendes pocketed 12million euros just for "enabling" the deal with Paratici. Disgusting greed on a monumental level

posted on 30/6/21

comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 1 hour, 34 minutes ago
Basically just delving into semantics to justify why I have to sit through a snoozefest for another 2 seasons
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You have every right to ask searching questions Christopher

posted on 30/6/21

comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
I'm really sceptical and concerned about Paratici and the reasons he managed to twist Levy's arm regarding the appointment of Nuno. To lean on the 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 system he had at Valencia a long while ago whilst ignoring his inability to transition to those formations at Wolves is a staggering lack of foresight. With the same manager in place for some time and the same agent suggesting players, they couldn't find a way out of the three at the back system. That says to me that he's naturally a conservative coach. Of course he is. He's a former goalkeeper. For Paratici to manage to pass him off successfully as a free-flowing attacking coach is an act of salesmanship rarely seen. What a load of bullsheet.

He's pulled the wool over Levy's eyes here. We all know he wants Nuno because of his Mendes connections, not some genius brainwave that he's magically found an attacking style in an inherently defensive coach.

Levy has basically screwed us all these years and now he's getting screwed himself. This paratici bloke is seriously bad news.
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SO Day 1 in Patricio's reign and even before Nuno is apponted as manager you have written them both off and found more reason to slate Levy.

Unbelievable!! With 'supporters' like you who needs enemies?!

posted on 30/6/21

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
I'm really sceptical and concerned about Paratici and the reasons he managed to twist Levy's arm regarding the appointment of Nuno. To lean on the 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 system he had at Valencia a long while ago whilst ignoring his inability to transition to those formations at Wolves is a staggering lack of foresight. With the same manager in place for some time and the same agent suggesting players, they couldn't find a way out of the three at the back system. That says to me that he's naturally a conservative coach. Of course he is. He's a former goalkeeper. For Paratici to manage to pass him off successfully as a free-flowing attacking coach is an act of salesmanship rarely seen. What a load of bullsheet.

He's pulled the wool over Levy's eyes here. We all know he wants Nuno because of his Mendes connections, not some genius brainwave that he's magically found an attacking style in an inherently defensive coach.

Levy has basically screwed us all these years and now he's getting screwed himself. This paratici bloke is seriously bad news.
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SO Day 1 in Patricio's reign and even before Nuno is apponted as manager you have written them both off and found more reason to slate Levy.

Unbelievable!! With 'supporters' like you who needs enemies?!
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It is incredible. To dare is to don't but do as we say.

posted on 30/6/21

I don't mind being in the minority of fans that think Nuno and Paratici deserve a decent and fair opportunity.

posted on 30/6/21

comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 2 hours, 10 minutes ago
Sounds like we're Sacking Nuno then
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Cant think of a manager that hasn't been sacked under Levy

posted on 30/6/21

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
Jose would have stayed despite the style had we looked like a team capable of going places, with the mindset of winners. Our squad was a bit deficient in places so no one expected Jose to make us champions but at least to add a steely determination and know how in the big moment. However, in almost every clinch moment we let it slip and while that was not always Jose's fault ( i can think of missed chances vs Liverpool which would have seen us win comfortably and possibly really kick on from there) the overall negative approach to games was a massive factor in many outcomes.
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I was hoping we had Allegri lined up to replace Jose given the short notice. He was the only free candidate with top league accolades.

However I'm fine with most names we have been linked to apart from Gattuso. His mentality didn't seem right to me. That said I would have taken Gattuso over Mason.

posted on 30/6/21

I’d say we were pretty decent to watch under Jol, 2005-2007, under Harry, 2008-2012, and under Poch 2015-2018

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