comment by SFU221 (U22636)
posted 56 minutes ago
If we're such a well run club then maybe Daniel Levy shouldn't be getting so much hate on these boards?
Just a thought.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As with most things in life...those that are content stay quiet. Nothing generates more noise than negativity so don't use these boards to extrapolate Spurs global fan base.
comment by Happy Pranks 2021 FF JA LFC Champion (U22336)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
comment by Happy Pranks 2021 FF JA LFC Champion(U22336)
posted 28 minutes ago
The self pity on this thread
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Echoes of your laughter should be on your own clubs feed. No self pity, if you can comprehend it's actually the opposite.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
we’re good.
I’m not the one crying about a media conspiracy against my club
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who do you support?
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
It's more the hate from our own fans that bothers me.
Media write what they want and we know 81.734% of it is BS!
What astounds me is some fans sense of entitlement feeding unrealistic expectations, which we inevitably fall short of, leading to criticism of the owners.
There are a massive number of myths surrounding how we are run which are accepted as a gospel truth and inform the criticism.
In the football food chain we are a top 6 side. That is where peoples (fans & media) expectations of Spurs should begin. To exceed this level we need to get a lot more things right than wrong. At times we have, and that has raised expectations, but we have also made many mistakes. But people should not lose sight of the fact we have averaged about 4th place over 12 years and made it to a UCL final which is remarkable progress and represents Spurs punching way over their weight. Trophies are "the elephant in the room" but the lack of these goes deeper than how we are run.
Some promising signs with the new DoF, SOn signing on, no stadium or pandemic to distract us. I hope Nuno is a real success and feel that we are very well placed to really progress and start punching above our weight again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed. With FFP being a joke, this has singlehandedly blocked most teams from winning silverware. I commend Leicester but they are exceptions. Even the odds will back this up.
The media bashing doesn’t bother me tbf. I just ignore it
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Happy Pranks 2021 FF JA LFC Champion(U22336)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
comment by Happy Pranks 2021 FF JA LFC Champion(U22336)
posted 28 minutes ago
The self pity on this thread
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Echoes of your laughter should be on your own clubs feed. No self pity, if you can comprehend it's actually the opposite.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
we’re good.
I’m not the one crying about a media conspiracy against my club
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who do you support?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The clue is in my username
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 32 minutes ago
It's more the hate from our own fans that bothers me.
Media write what they want and we know 81.734% of it is BS!
What astounds me is some fans sense of entitlement feeding unrealistic expectations, which we inevitably fall short of, leading to criticism of the owners.
There are a massive number of myths surrounding how we are run which are accepted as a gospel truth and inform the criticism.
In the football food chain we are a top 6 side. That is where peoples (fans & media) expectations of Spurs should begin. To exceed this level we need to get a lot more things right than wrong. At times we have, and that has raised expectations, but we have also made many mistakes. But people should not lose sight of the fact we have averaged about 4th place over 12 years and made it to a UCL final which is remarkable progress and represents Spurs punching way over their weight. Trophies are "the elephant in the room" but the lack of these goes deeper than how we are run.
Some promising signs with the new DoF, SOn signing on, no stadium or pandemic to distract us. I hope Nuno is a real success and feel that we are very well placed to really progress and start punching above our weight again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agree, the hate from our own fans is rather disturbing. And I cannot understand the constant moaning 254/7. Yes a bit of criticism is fine, but just moaning for the sake of it is tiresome and extremely boring.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So ranting and raving to get Pochettino sacked is ok
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
It's more the hate from our own fans that bothers me.
Media write what they want and we know 81.734% of it is BS!
What astounds me is some fans sense of entitlement feeding unrealistic expectations, which we inevitably fall short of, leading to criticism of the owners.
There are a massive number of myths surrounding how we are run which are accepted as a gospel truth and inform the criticism.
In the football food chain we are a top 6 side. That is where peoples (fans & media) expectations of Spurs should begin. To exceed this level we need to get a lot more things right than wrong. At times we have, and that has raised expectations, but we have also made many mistakes. But people should not lose sight of the fact we have averaged about 4th place over 12 years and made it to a UCL final which is remarkable progress and represents Spurs punching way over their weight. Trophies are "the elephant in the room" but the lack of these goes deeper than how we are run.
Some promising signs with the new DoF, SOn signing on, no stadium or pandemic to distract us. I hope Nuno is a real success and feel that we are very well placed to really progress and start punching above our weight again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed. With FFP being a joke, this has singlehandedly blocked most teams from winning silverware. I commend Leicester but they are exceptions. Even the odds will back this up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
5 different winners in the last 9 years. That kind of ratio is similar throughout the last 40 years, so....
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So Spurs winning the league this year?
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 32 minutes ago
It's more the hate from our own fans that bothers me.
Media write what they want and we know 81.734% of it is BS!
What astounds me is some fans sense of entitlement feeding unrealistic expectations, which we inevitably fall short of, leading to criticism of the owners.
There are a massive number of myths surrounding how we are run which are accepted as a gospel truth and inform the criticism.
In the football food chain we are a top 6 side. That is where peoples (fans & media) expectations of Spurs should begin. To exceed this level we need to get a lot more things right than wrong. At times we have, and that has raised expectations, but we have also made many mistakes. But people should not lose sight of the fact we have averaged about 4th place over 12 years and made it to a UCL final which is remarkable progress and represents Spurs punching way over their weight. Trophies are "the elephant in the room" but the lack of these goes deeper than how we are run.
Some promising signs with the new DoF, SOn signing on, no stadium or pandemic to distract us. I hope Nuno is a real success and feel that we are very well placed to really progress and start punching above our weight again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agree, the hate from our own fans is rather disturbing. And I cannot understand the constant moaning 254/7. Yes a bit of criticism is fine, but just moaning for the sake of it is tiresome and extremely boring.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So ranting and raving to get Pochettino sacked is ok
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed. I think people need to wind their neck in a bit. There were supporters giving Pochettino grief for a year and still do. People were giving Mourinho grief the moment he signed. Whilst he was the wrong choice eventually, certain supporters never gave him a chance. These are the same supporters moaning about other supporters being negative at the moment. Son news is good, but until we wrap some deals up for players we desperately need and get this Kane mess sorted, it means jack s** at the moment. We are currently still in the same place as last season
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 32 minutes ago
It's more the hate from our own fans that bothers me.
Media write what they want and we know 81.734% of it is BS!
What astounds me is some fans sense of entitlement feeding unrealistic expectations, which we inevitably fall short of, leading to criticism of the owners.
There are a massive number of myths surrounding how we are run which are accepted as a gospel truth and inform the criticism.
In the football food chain we are a top 6 side. That is where peoples (fans & media) expectations of Spurs should begin. To exceed this level we need to get a lot more things right than wrong. At times we have, and that has raised expectations, but we have also made many mistakes. But people should not lose sight of the fact we have averaged about 4th place over 12 years and made it to a UCL final which is remarkable progress and represents Spurs punching way over their weight. Trophies are "the elephant in the room" but the lack of these goes deeper than how we are run.
Some promising signs with the new DoF, SOn signing on, no stadium or pandemic to distract us. I hope Nuno is a real success and feel that we are very well placed to really progress and start punching above our weight again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agree, the hate from our own fans is rather disturbing. And I cannot understand the constant moaning 254/7. Yes a bit of criticism is fine, but just moaning for the sake of it is tiresome and extremely boring.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So ranting and raving to get Pochettino sacked is ok
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed. I think people need to wind their neck in a bit. There were supporters giving Pochettino grief for a year and still do. People were giving Mourinho grief the moment he signed. Whilst he was the wrong choice eventually, certain supporters never gave him a chance. These are the same supporters moaning about other supporters being negative at the moment. Son news is good, but until we wrap some deals up for players we desperately need and get this Kane mess sorted, it means jack s** at the moment. We are currently still in the same place as last season
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I guess Dopey Dave is referring to about Poch. Can you let him know I didn't actually sack Poch, the club did. I think that is usually what happens when results are poor, the manager gets the sack.
Dave, Sandy replying to you
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 10 minutes ago
Dave, Sandy replying to you
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
comment by SpursBoy101 (U21819)
posted 2 hours, 22 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 10 minutes ago
It's more the hate from our own fans that bothers me.
Media write what they want and we know 81.734% of it is BS!
What astounds me is some fans sense of entitlement feeding unrealistic expectations, which we inevitably fall short of, leading to criticism of the owners.
There are a massive number of myths surrounding how we are run which are accepted as a gospel truth and inform the criticism.
In the football food chain we are a top 6 side. That is where peoples (fans & media) expectations of Spurs should begin. To exceed this level we need to get a lot more things right than wrong. At times we have, and that has raised expectations, but we have also made many mistakes. But people should not lose sight of the fact we have averaged about 4th place over 12 years and made it to a UCL final which is remarkable progress and represents Spurs punching way over their weight. Trophies are "the elephant in the room" but the lack of these goes deeper than how we are run.
Some promising signs with the new DoF, SOn signing on, no stadium or pandemic to distract us. I hope Nuno is a real success and feel that we are very well placed to really progress and start punching above our weight again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Brilliant comment.
I suppose the only thing I'd add is, punching above your weight isn't exactly sustainable, as we've seen with the inevitable slide after doing so. With clubs like Liverpool, Chelsea and Man Utd, you always feel like they will come back strong, even after one or two bad seasons. With us, maybe it's just the pessimist in me, but I can't be so sure.
How do we go from punching above our weight, to our weight being the same as the best?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Its a very good point.
When you look at our title run vs Leicester, only Man City & Arsenal were anywhere near the top at the turn of the year so all of Chelsea, Utd and Liverpool were never in the race. By the end City were no where near. It was a bit of a false position for both us & Leicester and just a couple years later you have City & LFC both nearly hitting 100 points.
Being more or less the best of the rest in recent years, it is more a case of others dropping back for us to step in. As football fortunes ebb and flow, sometimes we will be of the quality to take advantage of others standards falling, and sometimes we will not.
FOr a club like Spurs the way we can compete and maintain it, IMO, is through excellent recruitment. We really do have to identify quality at an early stage, bring it through and have smooth transitions between squads. Some selective big buys but more a case of building a quality squad and then evolving it proactively, rather than reactively.
When you look at our prime-Poch team, then the quality was truly there. But when you look how that squad has evolved in key positions, there just hasnt been a smooth transition and some spots have never really been properly filled. It is easier said than done. One hoped that a young Sanchez with a couple seasons at Spurs would develop in to an heir to Toby. It didnt work. But more often than not we've reacted. Dembele goes and it took 6 months to replace him with NDombele who took 1year+ to settle in. Similar with Eriksen & GLC. This approach just stalls our progress and we have never really been in a position to compete with the very biggest signings that could smooth the transition (either fees or wages). It's compounded when the form of players like Dele and Winks totally drops off.
When we were on a roll with Poch most things seemed to be going well. Players playing well and improving, new deals being signed. We did let it slip through the stadium build, partially inevitably due to the financial impact but also through poor management and player recruitment. The summer before our zero spend window, we bought Sisokko for £30m. Money that could have been spent elsewhere with more impact.
This is where Levy's impact has been most harmful and its good to see we have a better structure with DoF whose focus is to get players in but also long term plan.
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 4 hours, 11 minutes ago
Possibly secured new training kit sponsor
Possibly secured stadium naming rights
Secured one of the non-football events at our stadium
--------------------
.... well done?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A GB calibre list
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by SpursBoy101 (U21819)
posted 2 hours, 22 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 10 minutes ago
It's more the hate from our own fans that bothers me.
Media write what they want and we know 81.734% of it is BS!
What astounds me is some fans sense of entitlement feeding unrealistic expectations, which we inevitably fall short of, leading to criticism of the owners.
There are a massive number of myths surrounding how we are run which are accepted as a gospel truth and inform the criticism.
In the football food chain we are a top 6 side. That is where peoples (fans & media) expectations of Spurs should begin. To exceed this level we need to get a lot more things right than wrong. At times we have, and that has raised expectations, but we have also made many mistakes. But people should not lose sight of the fact we have averaged about 4th place over 12 years and made it to a UCL final which is remarkable progress and represents Spurs punching way over their weight. Trophies are "the elephant in the room" but the lack of these goes deeper than how we are run.
Some promising signs with the new DoF, SOn signing on, no stadium or pandemic to distract us. I hope Nuno is a real success and feel that we are very well placed to really progress and start punching above our weight again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Brilliant comment.
I suppose the only thing I'd add is, punching above your weight isn't exactly sustainable, as we've seen with the inevitable slide after doing so. With clubs like Liverpool, Chelsea and Man Utd, you always feel like they will come back strong, even after one or two bad seasons. With us, maybe it's just the pessimist in me, but I can't be so sure.
How do we go from punching above our weight, to our weight being the same as the best?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Its a very good point.
When you look at our title run vs Leicester, only Man City & Arsenal were anywhere near the top at the turn of the year so all of Chelsea, Utd and Liverpool were never in the race. By the end City were no where near. It was a bit of a false position for both us & Leicester and just a couple years later you have City & LFC both nearly hitting 100 points.
Being more or less the best of the rest in recent years, it is more a case of others dropping back for us to step in. As football fortunes ebb and flow, sometimes we will be of the quality to take advantage of others standards falling, and sometimes we will not.
FOr a club like Spurs the way we can compete and maintain it, IMO, is through excellent recruitment. We really do have to identify quality at an early stage, bring it through and have smooth transitions between squads. Some selective big buys but more a case of building a quality squad and then evolving it proactively, rather than reactively.
When you look at our prime-Poch team, then the quality was truly there. But when you look how that squad has evolved in key positions, there just hasnt been a smooth transition and some spots have never really been properly filled. It is easier said than done. One hoped that a young Sanchez with a couple seasons at Spurs would develop in to an heir to Toby. It didnt work. But more often than not we've reacted. Dembele goes and it took 6 months to replace him with NDombele who took 1year+ to settle in. Similar with Eriksen & GLC. This approach just stalls our progress and we have never really been in a position to compete with the very biggest signings that could smooth the transition (either fees or wages). It's compounded when the form of players like Dele and Winks totally drops off.
When we were on a roll with Poch most things seemed to be going well. Players playing well and improving, new deals being signed. We did let it slip through the stadium build, partially inevitably due to the financial impact but also through poor management and player recruitment. The summer before our zero spend window, we bought Sisokko for £30m. Money that could have been spent elsewhere with more impact.
This is where Levy's impact has been most harmful and its good to see we have a better structure with DoF whose focus is to get players in but also long term plan.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Spot on.
Many people throw in the Leicester comparison, but it's because they seem to get it so right in doing exactly what you said. Whenever they sell a star player, they already seem to have their replacement either on the books already, or lined up to be signed. Some examples are Ndidi/Kante, Soyuncu/Maguire, Maddison/Mahrez (not quite the same position but it works).
Tielemans (sale) and Vardy (age) look to be the next ones off the conveyor belt, so what have they done? Already signed Soumare and Daka who may well go on to be perfect replacements. Think how much money they have made from all of this aswell - they have sold for way more than they bought, and have managed to stay competitive. I'm glad they won the FA Cup and a big part of me wishes they had held onto 4th this last season.
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 32 minutes ago
It's more the hate from our own fans that bothers me.
Media write what they want and we know 81.734% of it is BS!
What astounds me is some fans sense of entitlement feeding unrealistic expectations, which we inevitably fall short of, leading to criticism of the owners.
There are a massive number of myths surrounding how we are run which are accepted as a gospel truth and inform the criticism.
In the football food chain we are a top 6 side. That is where peoples (fans & media) expectations of Spurs should begin. To exceed this level we need to get a lot more things right than wrong. At times we have, and that has raised expectations, but we have also made many mistakes. But people should not lose sight of the fact we have averaged about 4th place over 12 years and made it to a UCL final which is remarkable progress and represents Spurs punching way over their weight. Trophies are "the elephant in the room" but the lack of these goes deeper than how we are run.
Some promising signs with the new DoF, SOn signing on, no stadium or pandemic to distract us. I hope Nuno is a real success and feel that we are very well placed to really progress and start punching above our weight again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agree, the hate from our own fans is rather disturbing. And I cannot understand the constant moaning 254/7. Yes a bit of criticism is fine, but just moaning for the sake of it is tiresome and extremely boring.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So ranting and raving to get Pochettino sacked is ok
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed. I think people need to wind their neck in a bit. There were supporters giving Pochettino grief for a year and still do. People were giving Mourinho grief the moment he signed. Whilst he was the wrong choice eventually, certain supporters never gave him a chance. These are the same supporters moaning about other supporters being negative at the moment. Son news is good, but until we wrap some deals up for players we desperately need and get this Kane mess sorted, it means jack s** at the moment. We are currently still in the same place as last season
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I guess Dopey Dave is referring to about Poch. Can you let him know I didn't actually sack Poch, the club did. I think that is usually what happens when results are poor, the manager gets the sack.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But you ranted and raved like a 4 year old throwing his toys out of the pram, so don't talk about people being negative, of course I know you didn't sack him, who would have a plonker like you in change
comment by SpursBoy101 (U21819)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 39 minutes ago
Its a very good point.
When you look at our title run vs Leicester, only Man City & Arsenal were anywhere near the top at the turn of the year so all of Chelsea, Utd and Liverpool were never in the race. By the end City were no where near. It was a bit of a false position for both us & Leicester and just a couple years later you have City & LFC both nearly hitting 100 points.
Being more or less the best of the rest in recent years, it is more a case of others dropping back for us to step in. As football fortunes ebb and flow, sometimes we will be of the quality to take advantage of others standards falling, and sometimes we will not.
FOr a club like Spurs the way we can compete and maintain it, IMO, is through excellent recruitment. We really do have to identify quality at an early stage, bring it through and have smooth transitions between squads. Some selective big buys but more a case of building a quality squad and then evolving it proactively, rather than reactively.
When you look at our prime-Poch team, then the quality was truly there. But when you look how that squad has evolved in key positions, there just hasnt been a smooth transition and some spots have never really been properly filled. It is easier said than done. One hoped that a young Sanchez with a couple seasons at Spurs would develop in to an heir to Toby. It didnt work. But more often than not we've reacted. Dembele goes and it took 6 months to replace him with NDombele who took 1year+ to settle in. Similar with Eriksen & GLC. This approach just stalls our progress and we have never really been in a position to compete with the very biggest signings that could smooth the transition (either fees or wages). It's compounded when the form of players like Dele and Winks totally drops off.
When we were on a roll with Poch most things seemed to be going well. Players playing well and improving, new deals being signed. We did let it slip through the stadium build, partially inevitably due to the financial impact but also through poor management and player recruitment. The summer before our zero spend window, we bought Sisokko for £30m. Money that could have been spent elsewhere with more impact.
This is where Levy's impact has been most harmful and its good to see we have a better structure with DoF whose focus is to get players in but also long term plan.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Spot on.
Many people throw in the Leicester comparison, but it's because they seem to get it so right in doing exactly what you said. Whenever they sell a star player, they already seem to have their replacement either on the books already, or lined up to be signed. Some examples are Ndidi/Kante, Soyuncu/Maguire, Maddison/Mahrez (not quite the same position but it works).
Tielemans (sale) and Vardy (age) look to be the next ones off the conveyor belt, so what have they done? Already signed Soumare and Daka who may well go on to be perfect replacements. Think how much money they have made from all of this aswell - they have sold for way more than they bought, and have managed to stay competitive. I'm glad they won the FA Cup and a big part of me wishes they had held onto 4th this last season.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is nice to see a well run club exceeding expectations and getting some success, not based on how much they've spent.
Football is so much about money now and fans are obsessed with how much is spent. For me its never about the amount spent but how the player is identified and the timing of their purchase. I think we really need to get back to demonstrating a clear path to success in our setup, much like Dortmund have, and it should be us picking up the Sanchos, Bellinghams etc when they are kids and they would feel confident coming as they know they will get a chance. We kinda had that under Poch.
I also think that youth plays a much bigger part in the modern game as they have the energy and desire and all seem uber confident. Sometimes they just need chucking in and they may flourish. As a top 6 club we should not be afraid of this. I would say its harder if you are top 1 or 2 as there is extreme pressure to win every game.
We should not be afraid of targeting youthful talent. Expensive marquee signings often disappoint IMO.
Some people are talking like ENIC are the only solution, they run the club at a profit, that is why we never win anything.
Their business plan is good for profits, not for trophies, which is why we need rid of them and somebody to come in with a main focus of winning silverware, rather than the balance sheet.
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
What Billy cannot get his head around is that the profits are put back into the club. We don't make a profit and then the owners trouser it all.
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● 2020* 2021* ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 21 minutes ago
Some people are talking like ENIC are the only solution, they run the club at a profit, that is why we never win anything.
Their business plan is good for profits, not for trophies, which is why we need rid of them and somebody to come in with a main focus of winning silverware, rather than the balance sheet.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Poch not taking silverware seriously cost us silverware. The snobbery of the league and FA Cup cost us silverware. Some fans were also caught up in Top 4 glory. Some fans and Kane now saying they was silverware. Make your minds up.
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● 2020* 2021* ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 21 minutes ago
Some people are talking like ENIC are the only solution, they run the club at a profit, that is why we never win anything.
Their business plan is good for profits, not for trophies, which is why we need rid of them and somebody to come in with a main focus of winning silverware, rather than the balance sheet.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Poch not taking silverware seriously cost us silverware. The snobbery of the league and FA Cup cost us silverware. Some fans were also caught up in Top 4 glory. Some fans and Kane now saying they was silverware. Make your minds up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Its like the whole Trophy vs Style debate.
Some fans demanding silverware and even if Jose had bored us to a League Cup win, it would not have been good enough because of the style.
In fairness to Poch he did not always have the size and depth of squad to compete on more than 1 front. But he is a manager who favours a compact squad and promoting youth so he was not really setting himself up to succeed in this respect.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 10 minutes ago
What Billy cannot get his head around is that the profits are put back into the club. We don't make a profit and then the owners trouser it all.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The only money taken out of the club by the owners in the last 5 years was the repayment of a £40m loan associated with the stadium
Sign in if you want to comment
Despite all the hate from media..
Page 2 of 3
posted on 23/7/21
comment by SFU221 (U22636)
posted 56 minutes ago
If we're such a well run club then maybe Daniel Levy shouldn't be getting so much hate on these boards?
Just a thought.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As with most things in life...those that are content stay quiet. Nothing generates more noise than negativity so don't use these boards to extrapolate Spurs global fan base.
posted on 23/7/21
comment by Happy Pranks 2021 FF JA LFC Champion (U22336)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
comment by Happy Pranks 2021 FF JA LFC Champion(U22336)
posted 28 minutes ago
The self pity on this thread
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Echoes of your laughter should be on your own clubs feed. No self pity, if you can comprehend it's actually the opposite.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
we’re good.
I’m not the one crying about a media conspiracy against my club
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who do you support?
posted on 23/7/21
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
It's more the hate from our own fans that bothers me.
Media write what they want and we know 81.734% of it is BS!
What astounds me is some fans sense of entitlement feeding unrealistic expectations, which we inevitably fall short of, leading to criticism of the owners.
There are a massive number of myths surrounding how we are run which are accepted as a gospel truth and inform the criticism.
In the football food chain we are a top 6 side. That is where peoples (fans & media) expectations of Spurs should begin. To exceed this level we need to get a lot more things right than wrong. At times we have, and that has raised expectations, but we have also made many mistakes. But people should not lose sight of the fact we have averaged about 4th place over 12 years and made it to a UCL final which is remarkable progress and represents Spurs punching way over their weight. Trophies are "the elephant in the room" but the lack of these goes deeper than how we are run.
Some promising signs with the new DoF, SOn signing on, no stadium or pandemic to distract us. I hope Nuno is a real success and feel that we are very well placed to really progress and start punching above our weight again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed. With FFP being a joke, this has singlehandedly blocked most teams from winning silverware. I commend Leicester but they are exceptions. Even the odds will back this up.
posted on 23/7/21
The media bashing doesn’t bother me tbf. I just ignore it
posted on 23/7/21
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Happy Pranks 2021 FF JA LFC Champion(U22336)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
comment by Happy Pranks 2021 FF JA LFC Champion(U22336)
posted 28 minutes ago
The self pity on this thread
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Echoes of your laughter should be on your own clubs feed. No self pity, if you can comprehend it's actually the opposite.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
we’re good.
I’m not the one crying about a media conspiracy against my club
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who do you support?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The clue is in my username
posted on 23/7/21
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 23/7/21
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 32 minutes ago
It's more the hate from our own fans that bothers me.
Media write what they want and we know 81.734% of it is BS!
What astounds me is some fans sense of entitlement feeding unrealistic expectations, which we inevitably fall short of, leading to criticism of the owners.
There are a massive number of myths surrounding how we are run which are accepted as a gospel truth and inform the criticism.
In the football food chain we are a top 6 side. That is where peoples (fans & media) expectations of Spurs should begin. To exceed this level we need to get a lot more things right than wrong. At times we have, and that has raised expectations, but we have also made many mistakes. But people should not lose sight of the fact we have averaged about 4th place over 12 years and made it to a UCL final which is remarkable progress and represents Spurs punching way over their weight. Trophies are "the elephant in the room" but the lack of these goes deeper than how we are run.
Some promising signs with the new DoF, SOn signing on, no stadium or pandemic to distract us. I hope Nuno is a real success and feel that we are very well placed to really progress and start punching above our weight again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agree, the hate from our own fans is rather disturbing. And I cannot understand the constant moaning 254/7. Yes a bit of criticism is fine, but just moaning for the sake of it is tiresome and extremely boring.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So ranting and raving to get Pochettino sacked is ok
posted on 23/7/21
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
It's more the hate from our own fans that bothers me.
Media write what they want and we know 81.734% of it is BS!
What astounds me is some fans sense of entitlement feeding unrealistic expectations, which we inevitably fall short of, leading to criticism of the owners.
There are a massive number of myths surrounding how we are run which are accepted as a gospel truth and inform the criticism.
In the football food chain we are a top 6 side. That is where peoples (fans & media) expectations of Spurs should begin. To exceed this level we need to get a lot more things right than wrong. At times we have, and that has raised expectations, but we have also made many mistakes. But people should not lose sight of the fact we have averaged about 4th place over 12 years and made it to a UCL final which is remarkable progress and represents Spurs punching way over their weight. Trophies are "the elephant in the room" but the lack of these goes deeper than how we are run.
Some promising signs with the new DoF, SOn signing on, no stadium or pandemic to distract us. I hope Nuno is a real success and feel that we are very well placed to really progress and start punching above our weight again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed. With FFP being a joke, this has singlehandedly blocked most teams from winning silverware. I commend Leicester but they are exceptions. Even the odds will back this up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
5 different winners in the last 9 years. That kind of ratio is similar throughout the last 40 years, so....
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So Spurs winning the league this year?
posted on 23/7/21
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 23/7/21
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 32 minutes ago
It's more the hate from our own fans that bothers me.
Media write what they want and we know 81.734% of it is BS!
What astounds me is some fans sense of entitlement feeding unrealistic expectations, which we inevitably fall short of, leading to criticism of the owners.
There are a massive number of myths surrounding how we are run which are accepted as a gospel truth and inform the criticism.
In the football food chain we are a top 6 side. That is where peoples (fans & media) expectations of Spurs should begin. To exceed this level we need to get a lot more things right than wrong. At times we have, and that has raised expectations, but we have also made many mistakes. But people should not lose sight of the fact we have averaged about 4th place over 12 years and made it to a UCL final which is remarkable progress and represents Spurs punching way over their weight. Trophies are "the elephant in the room" but the lack of these goes deeper than how we are run.
Some promising signs with the new DoF, SOn signing on, no stadium or pandemic to distract us. I hope Nuno is a real success and feel that we are very well placed to really progress and start punching above our weight again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agree, the hate from our own fans is rather disturbing. And I cannot understand the constant moaning 254/7. Yes a bit of criticism is fine, but just moaning for the sake of it is tiresome and extremely boring.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So ranting and raving to get Pochettino sacked is ok
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed. I think people need to wind their neck in a bit. There were supporters giving Pochettino grief for a year and still do. People were giving Mourinho grief the moment he signed. Whilst he was the wrong choice eventually, certain supporters never gave him a chance. These are the same supporters moaning about other supporters being negative at the moment. Son news is good, but until we wrap some deals up for players we desperately need and get this Kane mess sorted, it means jack s** at the moment. We are currently still in the same place as last season
posted on 23/7/21
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 32 minutes ago
It's more the hate from our own fans that bothers me.
Media write what they want and we know 81.734% of it is BS!
What astounds me is some fans sense of entitlement feeding unrealistic expectations, which we inevitably fall short of, leading to criticism of the owners.
There are a massive number of myths surrounding how we are run which are accepted as a gospel truth and inform the criticism.
In the football food chain we are a top 6 side. That is where peoples (fans & media) expectations of Spurs should begin. To exceed this level we need to get a lot more things right than wrong. At times we have, and that has raised expectations, but we have also made many mistakes. But people should not lose sight of the fact we have averaged about 4th place over 12 years and made it to a UCL final which is remarkable progress and represents Spurs punching way over their weight. Trophies are "the elephant in the room" but the lack of these goes deeper than how we are run.
Some promising signs with the new DoF, SOn signing on, no stadium or pandemic to distract us. I hope Nuno is a real success and feel that we are very well placed to really progress and start punching above our weight again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agree, the hate from our own fans is rather disturbing. And I cannot understand the constant moaning 254/7. Yes a bit of criticism is fine, but just moaning for the sake of it is tiresome and extremely boring.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So ranting and raving to get Pochettino sacked is ok
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed. I think people need to wind their neck in a bit. There were supporters giving Pochettino grief for a year and still do. People were giving Mourinho grief the moment he signed. Whilst he was the wrong choice eventually, certain supporters never gave him a chance. These are the same supporters moaning about other supporters being negative at the moment. Son news is good, but until we wrap some deals up for players we desperately need and get this Kane mess sorted, it means jack s** at the moment. We are currently still in the same place as last season
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I guess Dopey Dave is referring to about Poch. Can you let him know I didn't actually sack Poch, the club did. I think that is usually what happens when results are poor, the manager gets the sack.
posted on 23/7/21
Dave, Sandy replying to you
posted on 23/7/21
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 10 minutes ago
Dave, Sandy replying to you
----------------------------------------------------------------------
posted on 23/7/21
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 23/7/21
comment by SpursBoy101 (U21819)
posted 2 hours, 22 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 10 minutes ago
It's more the hate from our own fans that bothers me.
Media write what they want and we know 81.734% of it is BS!
What astounds me is some fans sense of entitlement feeding unrealistic expectations, which we inevitably fall short of, leading to criticism of the owners.
There are a massive number of myths surrounding how we are run which are accepted as a gospel truth and inform the criticism.
In the football food chain we are a top 6 side. That is where peoples (fans & media) expectations of Spurs should begin. To exceed this level we need to get a lot more things right than wrong. At times we have, and that has raised expectations, but we have also made many mistakes. But people should not lose sight of the fact we have averaged about 4th place over 12 years and made it to a UCL final which is remarkable progress and represents Spurs punching way over their weight. Trophies are "the elephant in the room" but the lack of these goes deeper than how we are run.
Some promising signs with the new DoF, SOn signing on, no stadium or pandemic to distract us. I hope Nuno is a real success and feel that we are very well placed to really progress and start punching above our weight again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Brilliant comment.
I suppose the only thing I'd add is, punching above your weight isn't exactly sustainable, as we've seen with the inevitable slide after doing so. With clubs like Liverpool, Chelsea and Man Utd, you always feel like they will come back strong, even after one or two bad seasons. With us, maybe it's just the pessimist in me, but I can't be so sure.
How do we go from punching above our weight, to our weight being the same as the best?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Its a very good point.
When you look at our title run vs Leicester, only Man City & Arsenal were anywhere near the top at the turn of the year so all of Chelsea, Utd and Liverpool were never in the race. By the end City were no where near. It was a bit of a false position for both us & Leicester and just a couple years later you have City & LFC both nearly hitting 100 points.
Being more or less the best of the rest in recent years, it is more a case of others dropping back for us to step in. As football fortunes ebb and flow, sometimes we will be of the quality to take advantage of others standards falling, and sometimes we will not.
FOr a club like Spurs the way we can compete and maintain it, IMO, is through excellent recruitment. We really do have to identify quality at an early stage, bring it through and have smooth transitions between squads. Some selective big buys but more a case of building a quality squad and then evolving it proactively, rather than reactively.
When you look at our prime-Poch team, then the quality was truly there. But when you look how that squad has evolved in key positions, there just hasnt been a smooth transition and some spots have never really been properly filled. It is easier said than done. One hoped that a young Sanchez with a couple seasons at Spurs would develop in to an heir to Toby. It didnt work. But more often than not we've reacted. Dembele goes and it took 6 months to replace him with NDombele who took 1year+ to settle in. Similar with Eriksen & GLC. This approach just stalls our progress and we have never really been in a position to compete with the very biggest signings that could smooth the transition (either fees or wages). It's compounded when the form of players like Dele and Winks totally drops off.
When we were on a roll with Poch most things seemed to be going well. Players playing well and improving, new deals being signed. We did let it slip through the stadium build, partially inevitably due to the financial impact but also through poor management and player recruitment. The summer before our zero spend window, we bought Sisokko for £30m. Money that could have been spent elsewhere with more impact.
This is where Levy's impact has been most harmful and its good to see we have a better structure with DoF whose focus is to get players in but also long term plan.
posted on 23/7/21
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 4 hours, 11 minutes ago
Possibly secured new training kit sponsor
Possibly secured stadium naming rights
Secured one of the non-football events at our stadium
--------------------
.... well done?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A GB calibre list
posted on 23/7/21
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by SpursBoy101 (U21819)
posted 2 hours, 22 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 10 minutes ago
It's more the hate from our own fans that bothers me.
Media write what they want and we know 81.734% of it is BS!
What astounds me is some fans sense of entitlement feeding unrealistic expectations, which we inevitably fall short of, leading to criticism of the owners.
There are a massive number of myths surrounding how we are run which are accepted as a gospel truth and inform the criticism.
In the football food chain we are a top 6 side. That is where peoples (fans & media) expectations of Spurs should begin. To exceed this level we need to get a lot more things right than wrong. At times we have, and that has raised expectations, but we have also made many mistakes. But people should not lose sight of the fact we have averaged about 4th place over 12 years and made it to a UCL final which is remarkable progress and represents Spurs punching way over their weight. Trophies are "the elephant in the room" but the lack of these goes deeper than how we are run.
Some promising signs with the new DoF, SOn signing on, no stadium or pandemic to distract us. I hope Nuno is a real success and feel that we are very well placed to really progress and start punching above our weight again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Brilliant comment.
I suppose the only thing I'd add is, punching above your weight isn't exactly sustainable, as we've seen with the inevitable slide after doing so. With clubs like Liverpool, Chelsea and Man Utd, you always feel like they will come back strong, even after one or two bad seasons. With us, maybe it's just the pessimist in me, but I can't be so sure.
How do we go from punching above our weight, to our weight being the same as the best?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Its a very good point.
When you look at our title run vs Leicester, only Man City & Arsenal were anywhere near the top at the turn of the year so all of Chelsea, Utd and Liverpool were never in the race. By the end City were no where near. It was a bit of a false position for both us & Leicester and just a couple years later you have City & LFC both nearly hitting 100 points.
Being more or less the best of the rest in recent years, it is more a case of others dropping back for us to step in. As football fortunes ebb and flow, sometimes we will be of the quality to take advantage of others standards falling, and sometimes we will not.
FOr a club like Spurs the way we can compete and maintain it, IMO, is through excellent recruitment. We really do have to identify quality at an early stage, bring it through and have smooth transitions between squads. Some selective big buys but more a case of building a quality squad and then evolving it proactively, rather than reactively.
When you look at our prime-Poch team, then the quality was truly there. But when you look how that squad has evolved in key positions, there just hasnt been a smooth transition and some spots have never really been properly filled. It is easier said than done. One hoped that a young Sanchez with a couple seasons at Spurs would develop in to an heir to Toby. It didnt work. But more often than not we've reacted. Dembele goes and it took 6 months to replace him with NDombele who took 1year+ to settle in. Similar with Eriksen & GLC. This approach just stalls our progress and we have never really been in a position to compete with the very biggest signings that could smooth the transition (either fees or wages). It's compounded when the form of players like Dele and Winks totally drops off.
When we were on a roll with Poch most things seemed to be going well. Players playing well and improving, new deals being signed. We did let it slip through the stadium build, partially inevitably due to the financial impact but also through poor management and player recruitment. The summer before our zero spend window, we bought Sisokko for £30m. Money that could have been spent elsewhere with more impact.
This is where Levy's impact has been most harmful and its good to see we have a better structure with DoF whose focus is to get players in but also long term plan.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Spot on.
Many people throw in the Leicester comparison, but it's because they seem to get it so right in doing exactly what you said. Whenever they sell a star player, they already seem to have their replacement either on the books already, or lined up to be signed. Some examples are Ndidi/Kante, Soyuncu/Maguire, Maddison/Mahrez (not quite the same position but it works).
Tielemans (sale) and Vardy (age) look to be the next ones off the conveyor belt, so what have they done? Already signed Soumare and Daka who may well go on to be perfect replacements. Think how much money they have made from all of this aswell - they have sold for way more than they bought, and have managed to stay competitive. I'm glad they won the FA Cup and a big part of me wishes they had held onto 4th this last season.
posted on 23/7/21
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 32 minutes ago
It's more the hate from our own fans that bothers me.
Media write what they want and we know 81.734% of it is BS!
What astounds me is some fans sense of entitlement feeding unrealistic expectations, which we inevitably fall short of, leading to criticism of the owners.
There are a massive number of myths surrounding how we are run which are accepted as a gospel truth and inform the criticism.
In the football food chain we are a top 6 side. That is where peoples (fans & media) expectations of Spurs should begin. To exceed this level we need to get a lot more things right than wrong. At times we have, and that has raised expectations, but we have also made many mistakes. But people should not lose sight of the fact we have averaged about 4th place over 12 years and made it to a UCL final which is remarkable progress and represents Spurs punching way over their weight. Trophies are "the elephant in the room" but the lack of these goes deeper than how we are run.
Some promising signs with the new DoF, SOn signing on, no stadium or pandemic to distract us. I hope Nuno is a real success and feel that we are very well placed to really progress and start punching above our weight again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agree, the hate from our own fans is rather disturbing. And I cannot understand the constant moaning 254/7. Yes a bit of criticism is fine, but just moaning for the sake of it is tiresome and extremely boring.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So ranting and raving to get Pochettino sacked is ok
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed. I think people need to wind their neck in a bit. There were supporters giving Pochettino grief for a year and still do. People were giving Mourinho grief the moment he signed. Whilst he was the wrong choice eventually, certain supporters never gave him a chance. These are the same supporters moaning about other supporters being negative at the moment. Son news is good, but until we wrap some deals up for players we desperately need and get this Kane mess sorted, it means jack s** at the moment. We are currently still in the same place as last season
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I guess Dopey Dave is referring to about Poch. Can you let him know I didn't actually sack Poch, the club did. I think that is usually what happens when results are poor, the manager gets the sack.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But you ranted and raved like a 4 year old throwing his toys out of the pram, so don't talk about people being negative, of course I know you didn't sack him, who would have a plonker like you in change
posted on 23/7/21
comment by SpursBoy101 (U21819)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 39 minutes ago
Its a very good point.
When you look at our title run vs Leicester, only Man City & Arsenal were anywhere near the top at the turn of the year so all of Chelsea, Utd and Liverpool were never in the race. By the end City were no where near. It was a bit of a false position for both us & Leicester and just a couple years later you have City & LFC both nearly hitting 100 points.
Being more or less the best of the rest in recent years, it is more a case of others dropping back for us to step in. As football fortunes ebb and flow, sometimes we will be of the quality to take advantage of others standards falling, and sometimes we will not.
FOr a club like Spurs the way we can compete and maintain it, IMO, is through excellent recruitment. We really do have to identify quality at an early stage, bring it through and have smooth transitions between squads. Some selective big buys but more a case of building a quality squad and then evolving it proactively, rather than reactively.
When you look at our prime-Poch team, then the quality was truly there. But when you look how that squad has evolved in key positions, there just hasnt been a smooth transition and some spots have never really been properly filled. It is easier said than done. One hoped that a young Sanchez with a couple seasons at Spurs would develop in to an heir to Toby. It didnt work. But more often than not we've reacted. Dembele goes and it took 6 months to replace him with NDombele who took 1year+ to settle in. Similar with Eriksen & GLC. This approach just stalls our progress and we have never really been in a position to compete with the very biggest signings that could smooth the transition (either fees or wages). It's compounded when the form of players like Dele and Winks totally drops off.
When we were on a roll with Poch most things seemed to be going well. Players playing well and improving, new deals being signed. We did let it slip through the stadium build, partially inevitably due to the financial impact but also through poor management and player recruitment. The summer before our zero spend window, we bought Sisokko for £30m. Money that could have been spent elsewhere with more impact.
This is where Levy's impact has been most harmful and its good to see we have a better structure with DoF whose focus is to get players in but also long term plan.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Spot on.
Many people throw in the Leicester comparison, but it's because they seem to get it so right in doing exactly what you said. Whenever they sell a star player, they already seem to have their replacement either on the books already, or lined up to be signed. Some examples are Ndidi/Kante, Soyuncu/Maguire, Maddison/Mahrez (not quite the same position but it works).
Tielemans (sale) and Vardy (age) look to be the next ones off the conveyor belt, so what have they done? Already signed Soumare and Daka who may well go on to be perfect replacements. Think how much money they have made from all of this aswell - they have sold for way more than they bought, and have managed to stay competitive. I'm glad they won the FA Cup and a big part of me wishes they had held onto 4th this last season.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is nice to see a well run club exceeding expectations and getting some success, not based on how much they've spent.
Football is so much about money now and fans are obsessed with how much is spent. For me its never about the amount spent but how the player is identified and the timing of their purchase. I think we really need to get back to demonstrating a clear path to success in our setup, much like Dortmund have, and it should be us picking up the Sanchos, Bellinghams etc when they are kids and they would feel confident coming as they know they will get a chance. We kinda had that under Poch.
I also think that youth plays a much bigger part in the modern game as they have the energy and desire and all seem uber confident. Sometimes they just need chucking in and they may flourish. As a top 6 club we should not be afraid of this. I would say its harder if you are top 1 or 2 as there is extreme pressure to win every game.
We should not be afraid of targeting youthful talent. Expensive marquee signings often disappoint IMO.
posted on 23/7/21
Some people are talking like ENIC are the only solution, they run the club at a profit, that is why we never win anything.
Their business plan is good for profits, not for trophies, which is why we need rid of them and somebody to come in with a main focus of winning silverware, rather than the balance sheet.
posted on 23/7/21
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 23/7/21
What Billy cannot get his head around is that the profits are put back into the club. We don't make a profit and then the owners trouser it all.
posted on 23/7/21
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● 2020* 2021* ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 21 minutes ago
Some people are talking like ENIC are the only solution, they run the club at a profit, that is why we never win anything.
Their business plan is good for profits, not for trophies, which is why we need rid of them and somebody to come in with a main focus of winning silverware, rather than the balance sheet.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Poch not taking silverware seriously cost us silverware. The snobbery of the league and FA Cup cost us silverware. Some fans were also caught up in Top 4 glory. Some fans and Kane now saying they was silverware. Make your minds up.
posted on 23/7/21
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● 2020* 2021* ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 21 minutes ago
Some people are talking like ENIC are the only solution, they run the club at a profit, that is why we never win anything.
Their business plan is good for profits, not for trophies, which is why we need rid of them and somebody to come in with a main focus of winning silverware, rather than the balance sheet.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Poch not taking silverware seriously cost us silverware. The snobbery of the league and FA Cup cost us silverware. Some fans were also caught up in Top 4 glory. Some fans and Kane now saying they was silverware. Make your minds up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Its like the whole Trophy vs Style debate.
Some fans demanding silverware and even if Jose had bored us to a League Cup win, it would not have been good enough because of the style.
In fairness to Poch he did not always have the size and depth of squad to compete on more than 1 front. But he is a manager who favours a compact squad and promoting youth so he was not really setting himself up to succeed in this respect.
posted on 23/7/21
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 10 minutes ago
What Billy cannot get his head around is that the profits are put back into the club. We don't make a profit and then the owners trouser it all.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The only money taken out of the club by the owners in the last 5 years was the repayment of a £40m loan associated with the stadium
Page 2 of 3