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Does This Team Win It?

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posted on 26/7/21

comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago

In fact bet your house.
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which one?

posted on 26/7/21

comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago

In fact bet your house.
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which one?
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Haha I get the feeling there is something I don't know about here.

posted on 26/7/21

comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago

In fact bet your house.
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which one?
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Haha I get the feeling there is something I don't know about here.
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Culer is a bit of a Walter Mitty

comment by T-BAD (U11806)

posted on 26/7/21

Yeah the way Fergie really set himself aside from Wenger was his ability to change things up and bring in new ideas around him, while Wenger just became stale and surrounded by yes men.

I think it's kinda simple on paper to delegate those things but you have to really understand the club, which Ole does and is why he can get the best out of players where other people might not be able to. Hell, I think his management style didn't work at smaller clubs as you can't treat Cardiff players the same as Utd players, but this might be perfect role.

I dunno if he can take you to the top level but he's certainly leaving you in better shape than he found you as far as I can tell.

posted on 26/7/21

Who knew fishing was an Olympic sport?

comment by T-BAD (U11806)

posted on 26/7/21

comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 2 minutes ago
The tide is turning and there is now a growing consensus amongst our fans that we will win it.

The title may just have become ours now we have Varane. It gives us a better first XI than Chelsea, LFC and City.
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I know Culer is a wum but it must still be frustrating for the actual Utd fans on here

posted on 26/7/21

comment by TBag. (U11806)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 2 minutes ago
The tide is turning and there is now a growing consensus amongst our fans that we will win it.

The title may just have become ours now we have Varane. It gives us a better first XI than Chelsea, LFC and City.
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I know Culer is a wum but it must still be frustrating for the actual Utd fans on here
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Yup

posted on 26/7/21

Culer is not one of ours. Do what you wish with that filth

👍🙏🤞

posted on 26/7/21

comment by Colemanballs-جيش الدفاع الإسرائيلي (U22246)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Colemanballs-جيش الدفاع الإسرائيلي (U22246)
posted 55 seconds ago
There are 4 teams that have far better squads than the rest of league and United are among them.

When it comes to best starting 11's though,City,Chelsea and Liverpool in that order are ahead of United.When it comes to managers then it's City,Liverpool,Chelsea,Leicester,Everton and West Ham all ahead of United,in that order.
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We may well do but given how football plays out, you don't necessarily need the best starting 11 or the strongest squad on paper.

People will have said the same last year, you just don't know what will happen during a season. Liverpool could well be a powerhouse again but they could also have VVD not be quite the player he was and Konate continue to struggle with injury. If Mane has the same output and Salah struggles a bit then suddenly they could well be back to chasing the others.
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If it came down to a tight title race between the 4 main clubs,then I'd look at United being the least likely to win,simply down to the managers.

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Maybe. He has gotten the best of these managers multiple times though. He dumped Tuchel's PSG out, including Mbappe and Neymar, he's beaten Klopp and Pep multiple times. His record against Pep is actually pretty darn good. Our main failing has been our inability to break teams down, I think it's a bit too easy to put it all at Solkjaer's door in that sense. Klopp also had issues with beating smaller teams a couple of season before they won the league.

The are actually far more matches where Solkjaer's tactics were spot on than people would have you believe. He's also had his share of mares but so do they all. Pep absolutely fluffed the CL final and has been dumped out by the likes of Porto and Lyon. These are generally glossed over though and I find it strange he hasn't had a lot more stick for his repeated failings in the CL but a far inferior manager, with a far inferior squad seems to be held at a harsher standard. Makes sense though, it's pretty clear that people are still more bothered by United than City.

comment by T-BAD (U11806)

posted on 26/7/21

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posted on 26/7/21

comment by TBag. (U11806)
posted 21 seconds ago
Yeah the way Fergie really set himself aside from Wenger was his ability to change things up and bring in new ideas around him, while Wenger just became stale and surrounded by yes men.

I think it's kinda simple on paper to delegate those things but you have to really understand the club, which Ole does and is why he can get the best out of players where other people might not be able to. Hell, I think his management style didn't work at smaller clubs as you can't treat Cardiff players the same as Utd players, but this might be perfect role.

I dunno if he can take you to the top level but he's certainly leaving you in better shape than he found you as far as I can tell.
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I almost see comparisons with Zidane.

I don't think either are the best tacticians, coaches even but that's harder to assess, but they're both demonstrably good at keeping dressing rooms together at big clubs.

He's been backed incredibly well, those protests seem a long while ago don't they, but maybe he can get them over the line in something.

posted on 26/7/21

De Gea

Awb
Varane
Maguire
Shaw

Pogba
Mctominay

Sancho
Bruno
Rashford

Cavani

I say yes it does.

……

Probably not with Ole. And certainly not playing 4-2-3-1 with Pogba and McT as the two.

posted on 26/7/21

comment by TBag. (U11806)
posted 1 minute ago
Culer can do no wrong in my eyes after the thread where he reviewed Rashfords book and refused to admit it was a children's book
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That was superb.

comment by T-BAD (U11806)

posted on 26/7/21

comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by TBag. (U11806)
posted 21 seconds ago
Yeah the way Fergie really set himself aside from Wenger was his ability to change things up and bring in new ideas around him, while Wenger just became stale and surrounded by yes men.

I think it's kinda simple on paper to delegate those things but you have to really understand the club, which Ole does and is why he can get the best out of players where other people might not be able to. Hell, I think his management style didn't work at smaller clubs as you can't treat Cardiff players the same as Utd players, but this might be perfect role.

I dunno if he can take you to the top level but he's certainly leaving you in better shape than he found you as far as I can tell.
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I almost see comparisons with Zidane.

I don't think either are the best tacticians, coaches even but that's harder to assess, but they're both demonstrably good at keeping dressing rooms together at big clubs.

He's been backed incredibly well, those protests seem a long while ago don't they, but maybe he can get them over the line in something.
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Yeah seems like a fair comparison.

I don't know how well Zidane would get on at a smaller club, but there's only a very small amount of people who really understand the expectations and standards of a huge club and how to manage it all.

It's a hugely valuable skill and Ole obviously took a fair amount in over his time as a player, plus has an open like of communication with SAF i guess

posted on 26/7/21

comment by TBag. (U11806)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yeah the way Fergie really set himself aside from Wenger was his ability to change things up and bring in new ideas around him, while Wenger just became stale and surrounded by yes men.

I think it's kinda simple on paper to delegate those things but you have to really understand the club, which Ole does and is why he can get the best out of players where other people might not be able to. Hell, I think his management style didn't work at smaller clubs as you can't treat Cardiff players the same as Utd players, but this might be perfect role.

I dunno if he can take you to the top level but he's certainly leaving you in better shape than he found you as far as I can tell.
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Can't argue with this. We may well ultimately need a Conte or someone to get us over the line but I certainly wouldn't have wanted him to have followed Mourinho. That was a genuinely miserable time and we desperately needed a cultural reboot and overhaul. Even if that's all he ultimately achieves, I will personally remember his time as manager fondly.

posted on 26/7/21

comment by TBag. (U11806)
posted 2 minutes ago
Culer can do no wrong in my eyes after the thread where he reviewed Rashfords book and refused to admit it was a children's book
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Aren't we still waiting for the review? (unless I missed it)

posted on 26/7/21

I think Zidane and Ole are better tacticians than they are given credit for.

posted on 26/7/21

Is City, Liverpool and Chelsea make some decent signings too this has potential to be an absolute banger of a season domestically.

I find myself not looking forward to a World Cup, at all, for the first time in my life though.

posted on 26/7/21

comment by TBag. (U11806)

I know Culer is a wum but it must still be frustrating for the actual Utd fans on here
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you learn to live with it by ignoring it, a bit like hemorrhoids

comment by T-BAD (U11806)

posted on 26/7/21

comment by The Post Nearly Man. Jadon & Marcus & Bukayo. (U1270)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by TBag. (U11806)
posted 2 minutes ago
Culer can do no wrong in my eyes after the thread where he reviewed Rashfords book and refused to admit it was a children's book
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Aren't we still waiting for the review? (unless I missed it)
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Tbh last I saw he was strongly arguing against it being a kids book before it dropped out of my recent history. Not sure if we got one in the end

posted on 26/7/21

comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Colemanballs-جيش الدفاع الإسرائيلي (U22246)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Colemanballs-جيش الدفاع الإسرائيلي (U22246)
posted 55 seconds ago
There are 4 teams that have far better squads than the rest of league and United are among them.

When it comes to best starting 11's though,City,Chelsea and Liverpool in that order are ahead of United.When it comes to managers then it's City,Liverpool,Chelsea,Leicester,Everton and West Ham all ahead of United,in that order.
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We may well do but given how football plays out, you don't necessarily need the best starting 11 or the strongest squad on paper.

People will have said the same last year, you just don't know what will happen during a season. Liverpool could well be a powerhouse again but they could also have VVD not be quite the player he was and Konate continue to struggle with injury. If Mane has the same output and Salah struggles a bit then suddenly they could well be back to chasing the others.
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If it came down to a tight title race between the 4 main clubs,then I'd look at United being the least likely to win,simply down to the managers.

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Maybe. He has gotten the best of these managers multiple times though. He dumped Tuchel's PSG out, including Mbappe and Neymar, he's beaten Klopp and Pep multiple times. His record against Pep is actually pretty darn good. Our main failing has been our inability to break teams down, I think it's a bit too easy to put it all at Solkjaer's door in that sense. Klopp also had issues with beating smaller teams a couple of season before they won the league.

The are actually far more matches where Solkjaer's tactics were spot on than people would have you believe. He's also had his share of mares but so do they all. Pep absolutely fluffed the CL final and has been dumped out by the likes of Porto and Lyon. These are generally glossed over though and I find it strange he hasn't had a lot more stick for his repeated failings in the CL but a far inferior manager, with a far inferior squad seems to be held at a harsher standard. Makes sense though, it's pretty clear that people are still more bothered by United than City.
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Down to pure experience of making the right calls in a title run in then Ole is fourth in the list of the teams most likely to win the league.

Not saying he can't win it,but if it came down to a tight title race the manager I'd least want in charge out of the big four is Ole.

posted on 26/7/21

World cup isn’t until November next year.

comment by T-BAD (U11806)

posted on 26/7/21

comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Is City, Liverpool and Chelsea make some decent signings too this has potential to be an absolute banger of a season domestically.

I find myself not looking forward to a World Cup, at all, for the first time in my life though.
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Don't forget Arsenal rallying strongly after spending £80 on Ben White and Aaron Ramsdale.

Show a little respect

posted on 26/7/21

...............DDG

AWB...Varane...Maguire Shaw

.....Bruno..VDB...Pogba

Greenwood....Cavani....Sancho

That is some team, and should certainly see us challenging.

posted on 26/7/21

comment by TBag. (U11806)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Is City, Liverpool and Chelsea make some decent signings too this has potential to be an absolute banger of a season domestically.

I find myself not looking forward to a World Cup, at all, for the first time in my life though.
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Don't forget Arsenal rallying strongly after spending £80 on Ben White and Aaron Ramsdale.

Show a little respect
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I quite like them both as players, even wanted us to go for Ben White last summer, but they are absolute banter prices if true.

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