Just go straight to pens?
No goalkeepers for extra time!
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Pales... (U1108)
posted 1 minute ago
Just go straight to pens?
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No. Pens should only be a last resort if extra time hasn't separated both teams. My point in this article being that extra time in it's current format doesn't work and needs to be updated so that we see much more matches concluded in extra time.
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 2 minutes ago
Just go straight to pens?
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Or scrap pens and change extra time to golden goal. Decision to just go for it and risk tiring or wait for other team to tire and then go for it - could be interesting!
How about whoever has registered the most shots on target at full time (90 mins) is favoured for the draw.
That way the team with less has to attack and win the match.
Simple. Space the penalties out every five minutes during Extra Time, and they contribute to the score of the game instead.
Sorted. FIFA got any jobs going?
Id switch it up a bit. Have 6 v 6 for 10 mins each way. Open the game up a bit with way more space. First goal wins.
comment by Lubo - Struijk of Genius (U14008)
posted 5 seconds ago
Simple. Space the penalties out every five minutes during Extra Time, and they contribute to the score of the game instead.
Sorted. FIFA got any jobs going?
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Would completely hault the flow of the game though. Would be like having a drinks break every five mins
comment by CutMeAndIBleedRed (U7593)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 2 minutes ago
Just go straight to pens?
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Or scrap pens and change extra time to golden goal. Decision to just go for it and risk tiring or wait for other team to tire and then go for it - could be interesting!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Golden goal was already tried. According to FIFA it made teams sit back and defend even more for fear of conceding the golden goal.
I do think Golden goal idea has legs though. But not in a format where you have 11v11 in extra time. It would work in the format I suggested in the OP.
comment by Shaun M - Everywhere you go, always take Rapin... (U9955)
posted 2 minutes ago
Id switch it up a bit. Have 6 v 6 for 10 mins each way. Open the game up a bit with way more space. First goal wins.
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Yup I like it. Similar to what I mentioned. I think the answer lies with a reduced number of players on the pitch for ET.
Just scrap extra time. It serves very little purpose, and now that the away goal rule has been removed in European comps it gives a big advantage to the team that gets an extre 30 mins at home. Just go straight to penalties.
What about taking the penalties at the start of a match. That way, loser has to win the match. Fairer than losing on pens after a match.
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by CutMeAndIBleedRed (U7593)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 2 minutes ago
Just go straight to pens?
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Or scrap pens and change extra time to golden goal. Decision to just go for it and risk tiring or wait for other team to tire and then go for it - could be interesting!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Golden goal was already tried. According to FIFA it made teams sit back and defend even more for fear of conceding the golden goal.
I do think Golden goal idea has legs though. But not in a format where you have 11v11 in extra time. It would work in the format I suggested in the OP.
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It was tried but was there still the fall back of pens at the end? If you remove that one team HAS to score or they play till they are so knackered a goal is inevitable!
comment by CutMeAndIBleedRed (U7593)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by CutMeAndIBleedRed (U7593)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 2 minutes ago
Just go straight to pens?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Or scrap pens and change extra time to golden goal. Decision to just go for it and risk tiring or wait for other team to tire and then go for it - could be interesting!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Golden goal was already tried. According to FIFA it made teams sit back and defend even more for fear of conceding the golden goal.
I do think Golden goal idea has legs though. But not in a format where you have 11v11 in extra time. It would work in the format I suggested in the OP.
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It was tried but was there still the fall back of pens at the end? If you remove that one team HAS to score or they play till they are so knackered a goal is inevitable!
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Gold help the ref if Burnley play Stoke.
comment by Shaun M - Everywhere you go, always take Rapinha with you! (U9955)
posted 14 minutes ago
Id switch it up a bit. Have 6 v 6 for 10 mins each way. Open the game up a bit with way more space. First goal wins.
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What about you keep playing but every minute a player from each team has to leave. Would be interesting what order managers take them off!!
comment by Shaun M - Everywhere you go, always take Rapinha with you! (U9955)
posted 3 minutes ago
What about taking the penalties at the start of a match. That way, loser has to win the match. Fairer than losing on pens after a match.
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This is a good idea. I’ve not fully thought it through, but it would take the stress out of the penalties somewhat, knowing it’s not the last kick of the game
Just go straight to penalties in my opinion if you had to change it, but I wouldn't. Penalties is a horrible way to lose, but you need top decide the game somehow I suppose.
It's only like when teams "settle for extra time" when it's 1-1 or 0-0 after 85/85 minutes and it's an even game. When extra time/penalties is involved, it's not uncommon to see two evenly matched teams just settle for extra time and potentially penalties. It's the situation that creates that phase of the game.
comment by CutMeAndIBleedRed (U7593)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by CutMeAndIBleedRed (U7593)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 2 minutes ago
Just go straight to pens?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Or scrap pens and change extra time to golden goal. Decision to just go for it and risk tiring or wait for other team to tire and then go for it - could be interesting!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Golden goal was already tried. According to FIFA it made teams sit back and defend even more for fear of conceding the golden goal.
I do think Golden goal idea has legs though. But not in a format where you have 11v11 in extra time. It would work in the format I suggested in the OP.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It was tried but was there still the fall back of pens at the end? If you remove that one team HAS to score or they play till they are so knackered a goal is inevitable!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Everyone wants to see pens at the end. The 30 mins become irrelevant and if someone scores you are like damn.
Just playing extra time golden goal will be like a hour long sparring with no punches.
As a child I remember drawn knock games in 5 aside tournaments being decided by the number of corners each team had got during the match.
The logic being that more often than not the team that attacked the most won the game.
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Shaun M - Everywhere you go, always take Rapinha with you! (U9955)
posted 3 minutes ago
What about taking the penalties at the start of a match. That way, loser has to win the match. Fairer than losing on pens after a match.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is a good idea. I’ve not fully thought it through, but it would take the stress out of the penalties somewhat, knowing it’s not the last kick of the game
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You'd end up with the problem of the team that won the shootout effectively playing like they're 1-0 up. Backs against the wall stuff for the last half hour knowing they win if it's a draw
comment by Cheeser (U1422)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Shaun M - Everywhere you go, always take Rapinha with you! (U9955)
posted 3 minutes ago
What about taking the penalties at the start of a match. That way, loser has to win the match. Fairer than losing on pens after a match.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is a good idea. I’ve not fully thought it through, but it would take the stress out of the penalties somewhat, knowing it’s not the last kick of the game
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You'd end up with the problem of the team that won the shootout effectively playing like they're 1-0 up. Backs against the wall stuff for the last half hour knowing they win if it's a draw
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Also who wants to see a penalty shootout at the start of a game ? Would just be weird.
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Pales... (U1108)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by CutMeAndIBleedRed (U7593)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by CutMeAndIBleedRed (U7593)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 2 minutes ago
Just go straight to pens?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Or scrap pens and change extra time to golden goal. Decision to just go for it and risk tiring or wait for other team to tire and then go for it - could be interesting!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Golden goal was already tried. According to FIFA it made teams sit back and defend even more for fear of conceding the golden goal.
I do think Golden goal idea has legs though. But not in a format where you have 11v11 in extra time. It would work in the format I suggested in the OP.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It was tried but was there still the fall back of pens at the end? If you remove that one team HAS to score or they play till they are so knackered a goal is inevitable!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Everyone wants to see pens at the end. The 30 mins become irrelevant and if someone scores you are like damn.
Just playing extra time golden goal will be like a hour long sparring with no punches.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't want to see pens personally. As a last resort it's a good option but we shouldn't see as many penalty shootouts as we get in the modern game. I lost count of the amount of pen shootouts there were in the Euros. Far too many.
Extra time in it's current format is a waste of time as teams more often than not prefer to sit back and gamble on pens. Thus making extra time a fairly pointless excercise as it's basically just a time buffer between the 90 minutes match and the shootout.
Teams could be forced to make say 5 substitutions at the start of extra time, thus weakening each lineup and their defensive cohesion.
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posted on 3/8/21
Just go straight to pens?
posted on 3/8/21
No goalkeepers for extra time!
posted on 3/8/21
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Pales... (U1108)
posted 1 minute ago
Just go straight to pens?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No. Pens should only be a last resort if extra time hasn't separated both teams. My point in this article being that extra time in it's current format doesn't work and needs to be updated so that we see much more matches concluded in extra time.
posted on 3/8/21
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 2 minutes ago
Just go straight to pens?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Or scrap pens and change extra time to golden goal. Decision to just go for it and risk tiring or wait for other team to tire and then go for it - could be interesting!
posted on 3/8/21
How about whoever has registered the most shots on target at full time (90 mins) is favoured for the draw.
That way the team with less has to attack and win the match.
posted on 3/8/21
Simple. Space the penalties out every five minutes during Extra Time, and they contribute to the score of the game instead.
Sorted. FIFA got any jobs going?
posted on 3/8/21
Id switch it up a bit. Have 6 v 6 for 10 mins each way. Open the game up a bit with way more space. First goal wins.
posted on 3/8/21
comment by Lubo - Struijk of Genius (U14008)
posted 5 seconds ago
Simple. Space the penalties out every five minutes during Extra Time, and they contribute to the score of the game instead.
Sorted. FIFA got any jobs going?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Would completely hault the flow of the game though. Would be like having a drinks break every five mins
posted on 3/8/21
comment by CutMeAndIBleedRed (U7593)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 2 minutes ago
Just go straight to pens?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Or scrap pens and change extra time to golden goal. Decision to just go for it and risk tiring or wait for other team to tire and then go for it - could be interesting!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Golden goal was already tried. According to FIFA it made teams sit back and defend even more for fear of conceding the golden goal.
I do think Golden goal idea has legs though. But not in a format where you have 11v11 in extra time. It would work in the format I suggested in the OP.
posted on 3/8/21
comment by Shaun M - Everywhere you go, always take Rapin... (U9955)
posted 2 minutes ago
Id switch it up a bit. Have 6 v 6 for 10 mins each way. Open the game up a bit with way more space. First goal wins.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yup I like it. Similar to what I mentioned. I think the answer lies with a reduced number of players on the pitch for ET.
posted on 3/8/21
Just scrap extra time. It serves very little purpose, and now that the away goal rule has been removed in European comps it gives a big advantage to the team that gets an extre 30 mins at home. Just go straight to penalties.
posted on 3/8/21
What about taking the penalties at the start of a match. That way, loser has to win the match. Fairer than losing on pens after a match.
posted on 3/8/21
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by CutMeAndIBleedRed (U7593)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 2 minutes ago
Just go straight to pens?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Or scrap pens and change extra time to golden goal. Decision to just go for it and risk tiring or wait for other team to tire and then go for it - could be interesting!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Golden goal was already tried. According to FIFA it made teams sit back and defend even more for fear of conceding the golden goal.
I do think Golden goal idea has legs though. But not in a format where you have 11v11 in extra time. It would work in the format I suggested in the OP.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It was tried but was there still the fall back of pens at the end? If you remove that one team HAS to score or they play till they are so knackered a goal is inevitable!
posted on 3/8/21
comment by CutMeAndIBleedRed (U7593)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by CutMeAndIBleedRed (U7593)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 2 minutes ago
Just go straight to pens?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Or scrap pens and change extra time to golden goal. Decision to just go for it and risk tiring or wait for other team to tire and then go for it - could be interesting!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Golden goal was already tried. According to FIFA it made teams sit back and defend even more for fear of conceding the golden goal.
I do think Golden goal idea has legs though. But not in a format where you have 11v11 in extra time. It would work in the format I suggested in the OP.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It was tried but was there still the fall back of pens at the end? If you remove that one team HAS to score or they play till they are so knackered a goal is inevitable!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Gold help the ref if Burnley play Stoke.
posted on 3/8/21
comment by Shaun M - Everywhere you go, always take Rapinha with you! (U9955)
posted 14 minutes ago
Id switch it up a bit. Have 6 v 6 for 10 mins each way. Open the game up a bit with way more space. First goal wins.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What about you keep playing but every minute a player from each team has to leave. Would be interesting what order managers take them off!!
posted on 3/8/21
comment by Shaun M - Everywhere you go, always take Rapinha with you! (U9955)
posted 3 minutes ago
What about taking the penalties at the start of a match. That way, loser has to win the match. Fairer than losing on pens after a match.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is a good idea. I’ve not fully thought it through, but it would take the stress out of the penalties somewhat, knowing it’s not the last kick of the game
posted on 3/8/21
Just go straight to penalties in my opinion if you had to change it, but I wouldn't. Penalties is a horrible way to lose, but you need top decide the game somehow I suppose.
It's only like when teams "settle for extra time" when it's 1-1 or 0-0 after 85/85 minutes and it's an even game. When extra time/penalties is involved, it's not uncommon to see two evenly matched teams just settle for extra time and potentially penalties. It's the situation that creates that phase of the game.
posted on 3/8/21
comment by CutMeAndIBleedRed (U7593)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by CutMeAndIBleedRed (U7593)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 2 minutes ago
Just go straight to pens?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Or scrap pens and change extra time to golden goal. Decision to just go for it and risk tiring or wait for other team to tire and then go for it - could be interesting!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Golden goal was already tried. According to FIFA it made teams sit back and defend even more for fear of conceding the golden goal.
I do think Golden goal idea has legs though. But not in a format where you have 11v11 in extra time. It would work in the format I suggested in the OP.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It was tried but was there still the fall back of pens at the end? If you remove that one team HAS to score or they play till they are so knackered a goal is inevitable!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Everyone wants to see pens at the end. The 30 mins become irrelevant and if someone scores you are like damn.
Just playing extra time golden goal will be like a hour long sparring with no punches.
posted on 3/8/21
As a child I remember drawn knock games in 5 aside tournaments being decided by the number of corners each team had got during the match.
The logic being that more often than not the team that attacked the most won the game.
posted on 3/8/21
Knock out*
posted on 3/8/21
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Shaun M - Everywhere you go, always take Rapinha with you! (U9955)
posted 3 minutes ago
What about taking the penalties at the start of a match. That way, loser has to win the match. Fairer than losing on pens after a match.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is a good idea. I’ve not fully thought it through, but it would take the stress out of the penalties somewhat, knowing it’s not the last kick of the game
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You'd end up with the problem of the team that won the shootout effectively playing like they're 1-0 up. Backs against the wall stuff for the last half hour knowing they win if it's a draw
posted on 3/8/21
comment by Cheeser (U1422)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Shaun M - Everywhere you go, always take Rapinha with you! (U9955)
posted 3 minutes ago
What about taking the penalties at the start of a match. That way, loser has to win the match. Fairer than losing on pens after a match.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is a good idea. I’ve not fully thought it through, but it would take the stress out of the penalties somewhat, knowing it’s not the last kick of the game
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You'd end up with the problem of the team that won the shootout effectively playing like they're 1-0 up. Backs against the wall stuff for the last half hour knowing they win if it's a draw
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Also who wants to see a penalty shootout at the start of a game ? Would just be weird.
posted on 3/8/21
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Pales... (U1108)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by CutMeAndIBleedRed (U7593)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by CutMeAndIBleedRed (U7593)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 2 minutes ago
Just go straight to pens?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Or scrap pens and change extra time to golden goal. Decision to just go for it and risk tiring or wait for other team to tire and then go for it - could be interesting!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Golden goal was already tried. According to FIFA it made teams sit back and defend even more for fear of conceding the golden goal.
I do think Golden goal idea has legs though. But not in a format where you have 11v11 in extra time. It would work in the format I suggested in the OP.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It was tried but was there still the fall back of pens at the end? If you remove that one team HAS to score or they play till they are so knackered a goal is inevitable!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Everyone wants to see pens at the end. The 30 mins become irrelevant and if someone scores you are like damn.
Just playing extra time golden goal will be like a hour long sparring with no punches.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't want to see pens personally. As a last resort it's a good option but we shouldn't see as many penalty shootouts as we get in the modern game. I lost count of the amount of pen shootouts there were in the Euros. Far too many.
Extra time in it's current format is a waste of time as teams more often than not prefer to sit back and gamble on pens. Thus making extra time a fairly pointless excercise as it's basically just a time buffer between the 90 minutes match and the shootout.
posted on 3/8/21
Teams could be forced to make say 5 substitutions at the start of extra time, thus weakening each lineup and their defensive cohesion.
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