200 million for a donkey. It must be fun in your head
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going beyond the realms of fantasy
Strange that they're using the press to try and lower the price while having a go at us for not negotiating. What an entitled mess.
GTWI4T - He wouldn't have played that game anyway, to be fair.
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comment by Polbethian (U4211)
posted 1 minute ago
200 million for a donkey. It must be fun in your head
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The concept of negotiating clearly lost on you and whatever it is that resides in your head.
This is all just negotiating isn't it?
Pep just saying that if Levy doesn't bend a little then he's going to end up retaining an unhappy Harry Kane. Just highlighting the risk to try and increase the pressure.
I still think he'll go to City. Kane seems determined and Levy likes money. A deal will probably be done.
I reckon 150M will do it.
Levy won't mind keeping an unhappy player.
They cant expect to pay the same as they did for Grealish.
https://youtu.be/FFrag8ll85w
Levy to Pep and the City Owners.
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Before now I actually thought City were doing things in the right way. Yes, they've spent big money but before Grealish their record transfer fee was around £60m for Dias. Their better performers, with the right scouting set up, could have been acquired by any of the top 6 clubs in a financial sense. Kompany, Silva, Aguero, De Bruyne. All reasonable prices. If he ends up buying Grealish AND Kane then he'll have smashed the British transfer record twice in one window. That's not nurturing and moulding success, it's buying it, and frankly Pep is better than that. No matter what he goes on to achieve at City, he'll be tarnished with the reputation of taking the easy route. Let's face it, if you can spend £250m on just two players, you're cheating the rest of the field. Don't get me wrong, he's clearly still the best manager out there for me. He's revolutionised football. He's a pioneer. In the five years he's been here you can see the difference in the way other clubs operate. That's his legacy and splashing out on the very best does nothing but dilute it. Shame.
The arrogance of this bald fraud is staggering, Spendiola has to be the most over rated coach in history, anything he has achieved has been via inheriting a once in a lifetime squad or by having a monopoly on the best players around.
The bloke is a utterly classless, talking publicly about other clubs players and dropping a sly stick of dynamite in an attempt to get Kane to kick up more of a stink.
Every time Spendiola opens his disrespectful trap, I hope Levy whacks another £10m onto the asking price.
comment by Polbethian (U4211)
posted 19 minutes ago
200 million for a donkey. It must be fun in your head
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Yes a donkey that continually tops the goalscoring charts, and has now added topping the assists chart to his repertoire.
Not the brightest are you.
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 14 minutes ago
This is all just negotiating isn't it?
Pep just saying that if Levy doesn't bend a little then he's going to end up retaining an unhappy Harry Kane. Just highlighting the risk to try and increase the pressure.
I still think he'll go to City. Kane seems determined and Levy likes money. A deal will probably be done.
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I think you may be right, but it won`t be for less than £160 million.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 minutes ago
Before now I actually thought City were doing things in the right way. Yes, they've spent big money but before Grealish their record transfer fee was around £60m for Dias. Their better performers, with the right scouting set up, could have been acquired by any of the top 6 clubs in a financial sense. Kompany, Silva, Aguero, De Bruyne. All reasonable prices. If he ends up buying Grealish AND Kane then he'll have smashed the British transfer record twice in one window. That's not nurturing and moulding success, it's buying it, and frankly Pep is better than that. No matter what he goes on to achieve at City, he'll be tarnished with the reputation of taking the easy route. Let's face it, if you can spend £250m on just two players, you're cheating the rest of the field. Don't get me wrong, he's clearly still the best manager out there for me. He's revolutionised football. He's a pioneer. In the five years he's been here you can see the difference in the way other clubs operate. That's his legacy and splashing out on the very best does nothing but dilute it. Shame.
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He`s a chequebook manager mate. Always has been.
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comment by Bryãn's left boot (U22081)
posted 3 minutes ago
Strange that they're using the press to try and lower the price while having a go at us for not negotiating. What an entitled mess.
GTWI4T - He wouldn't have played that game anyway, to be fair.
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Yeah, I did mean this whole process as opposed to just today.
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It smacks of a coordinated strategy:
1. Generate a "gentleman's agreement" myth. Repeat it enough times so that it is perceived as gospel truth.
2. Moan that "Spurs are not negotiating" which implies Spurs are being unreasonable and reinforces the perception they have reneged on this agreement, and that Kane's actions & ire with Levy are justified.
3 - Expect a transfer request from Kane, justified on the back of this picture that has been painted about the unreasonable behaviour of Spurs/Levy.
For Levy's part, as much as he would want to keep Kane (not just because of what he does on the pitch but of the pure marketability of having the Eng. captain etc) he will know that keeping a wantaway player is risky and ultimately not fruitful. He will not want to be seen to negotiate and will want Kane & City painted as the enemy and that his hand is forced (which will pretty much be the truth anyway).
I like that Levy is remaining silent. City doing all the bleating. If they want our man they know what needs to happen next. If Kane does not make a transfer request then he has no complaints about honouring his contract,
Its a battel of wills.
City not wanting to be bent over by Levy
Levy not wanting to under sell or be seen to encouraging any sale
Kane not wanting to appear a by putting in a request to his boyhood club and tainting his reputation.
who blinks first?
If I was Pep I'd just drag it out for as long as possible to keep Kanes head turned
But I'm a sad petty individual sooooooo
By not buying Kane for a ridiculous amount of money, Pep has proved he’s a chequebook manager.
Spurs logic at its finest
…if Pep’s a bald headed fraud, what does that make £evy?
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 minutes ago
Before now I actually thought City were doing things in the right way. Yes, they've spent big money but before Grealish their record transfer fee was around £60m for Dias. Their better performers, with the right scouting set up, could have been acquired by any of the top 6 clubs in a financial sense. Kompany, Silva, Aguero, De Bruyne. All reasonable prices. If he ends up buying Grealish AND Kane then he'll have smashed the British transfer record twice in one window. That's not nurturing and moulding success, it's buying it, and frankly Pep is better than that. No matter what he goes on to achieve at City, he'll be tarnished with the reputation of taking the easy route. Let's face it, if you can spend £250m on just two players, you're cheating the rest of the field. Don't get me wrong, he's clearly still the best manager out there for me. He's revolutionised football. He's a pioneer. In the five years he's been here you can see the difference in the way other clubs operate. That's his legacy and splashing out on the very best does nothing but dilute it. Shame.
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He`s a chequebook manager mate. Always has been.
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Nah, I don't believe that. That Barca side was nurtured and moulded by him. Their most talented players came from a youth system he had a big hand in developing. For me he's an outstanding manager, I would say the greatest of all time that happens to also now have quite a bit of dosh at his disposal. He's revolutionised the game. To say that he's just a chequebook manager is just the most naive thoughtless statement anyone can make about him. It's absurd as far as I'm concerned. City have had money since 2008 and only since 2016 have we seen them play football that has, at times, taken my breath away. That's not the players, that's Pep. I hate it but it's true. Sometimes you have to hold your hand up and accept it. We should be grateful we have a manager like Pep in our league.
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 minute ago
By not buying Kane for a ridiculous amount of money, Pep has proved he’s a chequebook manager.
Spurs logic at its finest
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He's just bought Grealish for £100m and wants to buy Kane for something similar or more, which would take his spending at City to around £1bn.
But but but but, Pep nurtures talent, and City don't buy success Citizen logic!
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 7 minutes ago
Before now I actually thought City were doing things in the right way. Yes, they've spent big money but before Grealish their record transfer fee was around £60m for Dias. Their better performers, with the right scouting set up, could have been acquired by any of the top 6 clubs in a financial sense. Kompany, Silva, Aguero, De Bruyne. All reasonable prices. If he ends up buying Grealish AND Kane then he'll have smashed the British transfer record twice in one window. That's not nurturing and moulding success, it's buying it, and frankly Pep is better than that. No matter what he goes on to achieve at City, he'll be tarnished with the reputation of taking the easy route. Let's face it, if you can spend £250m on just two players, you're cheating the rest of the field. Don't get me wrong, he's clearly still the best manager out there for me. He's revolutionised football. He's a pioneer. In the five years he's been here you can see the difference in the way other clubs operate. That's his legacy and splashing out on the very best does nothing but dilute it. Shame.
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I think you're just being naive. It depends where the market is at any moment, the contract the target player is on, the club he's coming from etc. It also depends on the financial state of the two clubs involved. Kane has been the best striker in the league for years and he's on a long contract - you have to pay for that. Grealish had a release clause which City met - 100m is probably excessive for him and other clubs will be looking at it thinking, if you're prepared to spend that on him, our players are worth more.
As for doing it the right way, Guardiola has always bought loads of expensive players wherever he has gone. It's not a criticism, most successful managers depend on the transfer market - there have been some notable exceptions over the years, but spending big on the right players helps bring success.
It's also the difference between football fans and just spurs fans. I'm a Spurs fan, but I'm also a football fan in general which is why I can't stand by and let him get criticised like that. Anyone that regards him as 'just a chequebook manager' is likely just bitter that we don't have him or his chequebook.
comment by Eric_Draven (U20260)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 7 minutes ago
Before now I actually thought City were doing things in the right way. Yes, they've spent big money but before Grealish their record transfer fee was around £60m for Dias. Their better performers, with the right scouting set up, could have been acquired by any of the top 6 clubs in a financial sense. Kompany, Silva, Aguero, De Bruyne. All reasonable prices. If he ends up buying Grealish AND Kane then he'll have smashed the British transfer record twice in one window. That's not nurturing and moulding success, it's buying it, and frankly Pep is better than that. No matter what he goes on to achieve at City, he'll be tarnished with the reputation of taking the easy route. Let's face it, if you can spend £250m on just two players, you're cheating the rest of the field. Don't get me wrong, he's clearly still the best manager out there for me. He's revolutionised football. He's a pioneer. In the five years he's been here you can see the difference in the way other clubs operate. That's his legacy and splashing out on the very best does nothing but dilute it. Shame.
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I think you're just being naive. It depends where the market is at any moment, the contract the target player is on, the club he's coming from etc. It also depends on the financial state of the two clubs involved. Kane has been the best striker in the league for years and he's on a long contract - you have to pay for that. Grealish had a release clause which City met - 100m is probably excessive for him and other clubs will be looking at it thinking, if you're prepared to spend that on him, our players are worth more.
As for doing it the right way, Guardiola has always bought loads of expensive players wherever he has gone. It's not a criticism, most successful managers depend on the transfer market - there have been some notable exceptions over the years, but spending big on the right players helps bring success.
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My point is that I don't think he needs to do it to be successful. Does he need Grealish and Kane when they already have so many attacking midfielders and Torres starting to look really good up top? Probably not. I think he's a brilliant manager so I worry that signing two players for that much money means more and more people will label him a chequebook manager, which I think is grossly unfair on him. He's so much more than that.
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posted on 6/8/21
200 million for a donkey. It must be fun in your head
posted on 6/8/21
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posted on 6/8/21
going beyond the realms of fantasy
posted on 6/8/21
Strange that they're using the press to try and lower the price while having a go at us for not negotiating. What an entitled mess.
GTWI4T - He wouldn't have played that game anyway, to be fair.
posted on 6/8/21
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posted on 6/8/21
comment by Polbethian (U4211)
posted 1 minute ago
200 million for a donkey. It must be fun in your head
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The concept of negotiating clearly lost on you and whatever it is that resides in your head.
posted on 6/8/21
This is all just negotiating isn't it?
Pep just saying that if Levy doesn't bend a little then he's going to end up retaining an unhappy Harry Kane. Just highlighting the risk to try and increase the pressure.
I still think he'll go to City. Kane seems determined and Levy likes money. A deal will probably be done.
posted on 6/8/21
I reckon 150M will do it.
Levy won't mind keeping an unhappy player.
They cant expect to pay the same as they did for Grealish.
posted on 6/8/21
https://youtu.be/FFrag8ll85w
Levy to Pep and the City Owners.
posted on 6/8/21
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posted on 6/8/21
Before now I actually thought City were doing things in the right way. Yes, they've spent big money but before Grealish their record transfer fee was around £60m for Dias. Their better performers, with the right scouting set up, could have been acquired by any of the top 6 clubs in a financial sense. Kompany, Silva, Aguero, De Bruyne. All reasonable prices. If he ends up buying Grealish AND Kane then he'll have smashed the British transfer record twice in one window. That's not nurturing and moulding success, it's buying it, and frankly Pep is better than that. No matter what he goes on to achieve at City, he'll be tarnished with the reputation of taking the easy route. Let's face it, if you can spend £250m on just two players, you're cheating the rest of the field. Don't get me wrong, he's clearly still the best manager out there for me. He's revolutionised football. He's a pioneer. In the five years he's been here you can see the difference in the way other clubs operate. That's his legacy and splashing out on the very best does nothing but dilute it. Shame.
posted on 6/8/21
The arrogance of this bald fraud is staggering, Spendiola has to be the most over rated coach in history, anything he has achieved has been via inheriting a once in a lifetime squad or by having a monopoly on the best players around.
The bloke is a utterly classless, talking publicly about other clubs players and dropping a sly stick of dynamite in an attempt to get Kane to kick up more of a stink.
Every time Spendiola opens his disrespectful trap, I hope Levy whacks another £10m onto the asking price.
posted on 6/8/21
comment by Polbethian (U4211)
posted 19 minutes ago
200 million for a donkey. It must be fun in your head
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Yes a donkey that continually tops the goalscoring charts, and has now added topping the assists chart to his repertoire.
Not the brightest are you.
posted on 6/8/21
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 14 minutes ago
This is all just negotiating isn't it?
Pep just saying that if Levy doesn't bend a little then he's going to end up retaining an unhappy Harry Kane. Just highlighting the risk to try and increase the pressure.
I still think he'll go to City. Kane seems determined and Levy likes money. A deal will probably be done.
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I think you may be right, but it won`t be for less than £160 million.
posted on 6/8/21
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 minutes ago
Before now I actually thought City were doing things in the right way. Yes, they've spent big money but before Grealish their record transfer fee was around £60m for Dias. Their better performers, with the right scouting set up, could have been acquired by any of the top 6 clubs in a financial sense. Kompany, Silva, Aguero, De Bruyne. All reasonable prices. If he ends up buying Grealish AND Kane then he'll have smashed the British transfer record twice in one window. That's not nurturing and moulding success, it's buying it, and frankly Pep is better than that. No matter what he goes on to achieve at City, he'll be tarnished with the reputation of taking the easy route. Let's face it, if you can spend £250m on just two players, you're cheating the rest of the field. Don't get me wrong, he's clearly still the best manager out there for me. He's revolutionised football. He's a pioneer. In the five years he's been here you can see the difference in the way other clubs operate. That's his legacy and splashing out on the very best does nothing but dilute it. Shame.
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He`s a chequebook manager mate. Always has been.
posted on 6/8/21
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posted on 6/8/21
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Bryãn's left boot (U22081)
posted 3 minutes ago
Strange that they're using the press to try and lower the price while having a go at us for not negotiating. What an entitled mess.
GTWI4T - He wouldn't have played that game anyway, to be fair.
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Yeah, I did mean this whole process as opposed to just today.
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It smacks of a coordinated strategy:
1. Generate a "gentleman's agreement" myth. Repeat it enough times so that it is perceived as gospel truth.
2. Moan that "Spurs are not negotiating" which implies Spurs are being unreasonable and reinforces the perception they have reneged on this agreement, and that Kane's actions & ire with Levy are justified.
3 - Expect a transfer request from Kane, justified on the back of this picture that has been painted about the unreasonable behaviour of Spurs/Levy.
For Levy's part, as much as he would want to keep Kane (not just because of what he does on the pitch but of the pure marketability of having the Eng. captain etc) he will know that keeping a wantaway player is risky and ultimately not fruitful. He will not want to be seen to negotiate and will want Kane & City painted as the enemy and that his hand is forced (which will pretty much be the truth anyway).
I like that Levy is remaining silent. City doing all the bleating. If they want our man they know what needs to happen next. If Kane does not make a transfer request then he has no complaints about honouring his contract,
Its a battel of wills.
City not wanting to be bent over by Levy
Levy not wanting to under sell or be seen to encouraging any sale
Kane not wanting to appear a by putting in a request to his boyhood club and tainting his reputation.
who blinks first?
posted on 6/8/21
If I was Pep I'd just drag it out for as long as possible to keep Kanes head turned
But I'm a sad petty individual sooooooo
posted on 6/8/21
By not buying Kane for a ridiculous amount of money, Pep has proved he’s a chequebook manager.
Spurs logic at its finest
posted on 6/8/21
…if Pep’s a bald headed fraud, what does that make £evy?
posted on 6/8/21
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 minutes ago
Before now I actually thought City were doing things in the right way. Yes, they've spent big money but before Grealish their record transfer fee was around £60m for Dias. Their better performers, with the right scouting set up, could have been acquired by any of the top 6 clubs in a financial sense. Kompany, Silva, Aguero, De Bruyne. All reasonable prices. If he ends up buying Grealish AND Kane then he'll have smashed the British transfer record twice in one window. That's not nurturing and moulding success, it's buying it, and frankly Pep is better than that. No matter what he goes on to achieve at City, he'll be tarnished with the reputation of taking the easy route. Let's face it, if you can spend £250m on just two players, you're cheating the rest of the field. Don't get me wrong, he's clearly still the best manager out there for me. He's revolutionised football. He's a pioneer. In the five years he's been here you can see the difference in the way other clubs operate. That's his legacy and splashing out on the very best does nothing but dilute it. Shame.
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He`s a chequebook manager mate. Always has been.
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Nah, I don't believe that. That Barca side was nurtured and moulded by him. Their most talented players came from a youth system he had a big hand in developing. For me he's an outstanding manager, I would say the greatest of all time that happens to also now have quite a bit of dosh at his disposal. He's revolutionised the game. To say that he's just a chequebook manager is just the most naive thoughtless statement anyone can make about him. It's absurd as far as I'm concerned. City have had money since 2008 and only since 2016 have we seen them play football that has, at times, taken my breath away. That's not the players, that's Pep. I hate it but it's true. Sometimes you have to hold your hand up and accept it. We should be grateful we have a manager like Pep in our league.
posted on 6/8/21
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 minute ago
By not buying Kane for a ridiculous amount of money, Pep has proved he’s a chequebook manager.
Spurs logic at its finest
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He's just bought Grealish for £100m and wants to buy Kane for something similar or more, which would take his spending at City to around £1bn.
But but but but, Pep nurtures talent, and City don't buy success Citizen logic!
posted on 6/8/21
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 7 minutes ago
Before now I actually thought City were doing things in the right way. Yes, they've spent big money but before Grealish their record transfer fee was around £60m for Dias. Their better performers, with the right scouting set up, could have been acquired by any of the top 6 clubs in a financial sense. Kompany, Silva, Aguero, De Bruyne. All reasonable prices. If he ends up buying Grealish AND Kane then he'll have smashed the British transfer record twice in one window. That's not nurturing and moulding success, it's buying it, and frankly Pep is better than that. No matter what he goes on to achieve at City, he'll be tarnished with the reputation of taking the easy route. Let's face it, if you can spend £250m on just two players, you're cheating the rest of the field. Don't get me wrong, he's clearly still the best manager out there for me. He's revolutionised football. He's a pioneer. In the five years he's been here you can see the difference in the way other clubs operate. That's his legacy and splashing out on the very best does nothing but dilute it. Shame.
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I think you're just being naive. It depends where the market is at any moment, the contract the target player is on, the club he's coming from etc. It also depends on the financial state of the two clubs involved. Kane has been the best striker in the league for years and he's on a long contract - you have to pay for that. Grealish had a release clause which City met - 100m is probably excessive for him and other clubs will be looking at it thinking, if you're prepared to spend that on him, our players are worth more.
As for doing it the right way, Guardiola has always bought loads of expensive players wherever he has gone. It's not a criticism, most successful managers depend on the transfer market - there have been some notable exceptions over the years, but spending big on the right players helps bring success.
posted on 6/8/21
It's also the difference between football fans and just spurs fans. I'm a Spurs fan, but I'm also a football fan in general which is why I can't stand by and let him get criticised like that. Anyone that regards him as 'just a chequebook manager' is likely just bitter that we don't have him or his chequebook.
posted on 6/8/21
comment by Eric_Draven (U20260)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 7 minutes ago
Before now I actually thought City were doing things in the right way. Yes, they've spent big money but before Grealish their record transfer fee was around £60m for Dias. Their better performers, with the right scouting set up, could have been acquired by any of the top 6 clubs in a financial sense. Kompany, Silva, Aguero, De Bruyne. All reasonable prices. If he ends up buying Grealish AND Kane then he'll have smashed the British transfer record twice in one window. That's not nurturing and moulding success, it's buying it, and frankly Pep is better than that. No matter what he goes on to achieve at City, he'll be tarnished with the reputation of taking the easy route. Let's face it, if you can spend £250m on just two players, you're cheating the rest of the field. Don't get me wrong, he's clearly still the best manager out there for me. He's revolutionised football. He's a pioneer. In the five years he's been here you can see the difference in the way other clubs operate. That's his legacy and splashing out on the very best does nothing but dilute it. Shame.
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I think you're just being naive. It depends where the market is at any moment, the contract the target player is on, the club he's coming from etc. It also depends on the financial state of the two clubs involved. Kane has been the best striker in the league for years and he's on a long contract - you have to pay for that. Grealish had a release clause which City met - 100m is probably excessive for him and other clubs will be looking at it thinking, if you're prepared to spend that on him, our players are worth more.
As for doing it the right way, Guardiola has always bought loads of expensive players wherever he has gone. It's not a criticism, most successful managers depend on the transfer market - there have been some notable exceptions over the years, but spending big on the right players helps bring success.
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My point is that I don't think he needs to do it to be successful. Does he need Grealish and Kane when they already have so many attacking midfielders and Torres starting to look really good up top? Probably not. I think he's a brilliant manager so I worry that signing two players for that much money means more and more people will label him a chequebook manager, which I think is grossly unfair on him. He's so much more than that.
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