For a short period of time, definitely. The players are no longer playing for Arteta. A manager of Wenger’s stature could fix that.
However we like to forget that in the final few years of his career, the players were barely playing for Wenger either. We looked extremely complacent / lethargic in the season we finished 6th, especially at home games. The standard had gone.
We need someone like Conte or Brendan Rogers to put a rocket up everyone’s backsides. Permanently.
Can see Rogers going to you guys and that I would be concerned about - he definitely has something about him and is a great manager.
As DoF/TD, yes
As manager, fack no. He's the one that kicked off the rot in the first place.
The DoF role would be an interesting one tbh. Definitely no guarantee it would work out though.
For starters, would our signings this summer have been hugely different under Wenger than under Edu and Arteta? No sure they would've.
White seems very much a CB I'd imagine Arsene would like. Same with Sambi and Tavares. Odegaard too. And Arsene's goalkeeping record is hardly the first page he'd wave at you for his football CV is it?
Then there's the outgoing aspect to consider. He really struggled to let players go during his latter years, hanging on to them a lot of them far too long.
That said, we're a club in real need of a figurehead at the moment, and there haven't been many stronger figures in the game than Arsene over the past 20 years.
On that basis alone I'd back his return to the club.
Definitely. Wenger wouldn't have allowed such a slide.
Twice I've been crying out for Benitez and twice he's gone elsewhere. He is a man with experience and nouse - he could definitely do a job for us.
What happened to all these top job manager offers Wenger had waiting for him after he left Arsenal. Surely he could have got a Everton or someone but instead he's gone out of the picture.
Think after so long at Arsenal, he didn't have the energy to start again at a different club. For all his faults, Wenger is a project manager. Or at least has become one. The game doesn't really allow for that at too many clubs now.
Besides, after fearing what he'd do with his life after Arsenal, I think after putting his feet up for a while, he realised he could cope quite easily without the stress of managing a football club.
Good on him too, I say.
No, unless you mean literally - Wenger or Arteta in which case obviously Wenger would be better.
However neither would be best.
Wenger is an absolute legend of mine and of the club but his time was more than up by the time he left.
Personally I believe that Wenger would easily get this squad to 6th and likely (given the last few seasons tables) get it to 4th too. Not so much because I believe that Wenger is just that damned good but moreso due to the specific players that we have and just how incompetent I see Arteta as being. Fact is this squad has alot more strength and talent than Wenger's last couple ever did and more to the point they're most all HIS type of player wanting to play his type of football.
One of the biggest reasons Arteta looks so lost and incompetent is that he has a bunch of footballers who want to play positive football but Arteta vision is pure, negative ANTI-FOOTBALL. Wenger would simply axe that crap and get the players doing what they're best at and love to do. That said, the only way I want him back at the club is as a statue outside it or best case scenario as the shock new OWNER. The fans who hounded Wenger out really don't deserve to have him come back for a short time to steady the ship and save the club from dire mess THEY caused by attacking him instead of the owner in the first place.
Crappy as this all is to sit through a LARGE portion of this fanbase DESERVES to suffer every bit of misery it's now going through. That's what you get when you bite the hand that feeds you
With Auba, Laca, Saka and Pepe I don't see how Wenger, Rodgers, Rafa etc wouldn't make the top four.
Spurs have won 2 out of 2 including against Man City, and their squad looks just as mediocre as ours IMO.
The football we are playing right now is EXACTLY the same as we were playing under Wenger in his later years. EXACTLY the same. so, NO!!!!
comment by Serial WUManiser™© π΅πΈπ¦π« (U1410)
posted 8 hours, 33 minutes ago
As DoF/TD, yes
As manager, fack no. He's the one that kicked off the rot in the first place.
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Wenger would never finish 8th last season and would definitely finish at least top 6 this season. Some people's ego just won't allow them to admit it because they feel like idiots now for not valuing top 4 achievements.
Would be a good interim appointment (IMO) but nothing more, he wouldn't be able to keep up anymore.
Do think there's an argument to be made the Arsenal fanbase might need it however it goes too. If he does well it's cathartic, if he doesn't have the desired effect it's closure - either way it's beneficial.
You should have listened. You were warned. Be careful what you wish for
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posted on 23/8/21
For a short period of time, definitely. The players are no longer playing for Arteta. A manager of Wenger’s stature could fix that.
However we like to forget that in the final few years of his career, the players were barely playing for Wenger either. We looked extremely complacent / lethargic in the season we finished 6th, especially at home games. The standard had gone.
We need someone like Conte or Brendan Rogers to put a rocket up everyone’s backsides. Permanently.
posted on 23/8/21
Can see Rogers going to you guys and that I would be concerned about - he definitely has something about him and is a great manager.
posted on 23/8/21
As DoF/TD, yes
As manager, fack no. He's the one that kicked off the rot in the first place.
posted on 23/8/21
The DoF role would be an interesting one tbh. Definitely no guarantee it would work out though.
For starters, would our signings this summer have been hugely different under Wenger than under Edu and Arteta? No sure they would've.
White seems very much a CB I'd imagine Arsene would like. Same with Sambi and Tavares. Odegaard too. And Arsene's goalkeeping record is hardly the first page he'd wave at you for his football CV is it?
Then there's the outgoing aspect to consider. He really struggled to let players go during his latter years, hanging on to them a lot of them far too long.
That said, we're a club in real need of a figurehead at the moment, and there haven't been many stronger figures in the game than Arsene over the past 20 years.
On that basis alone I'd back his return to the club.
posted on 23/8/21
Definitely. Wenger wouldn't have allowed such a slide.
Twice I've been crying out for Benitez and twice he's gone elsewhere. He is a man with experience and nouse - he could definitely do a job for us.
posted on 23/8/21
What happened to all these top job manager offers Wenger had waiting for him after he left Arsenal. Surely he could have got a Everton or someone but instead he's gone out of the picture.
posted on 23/8/21
Think after so long at Arsenal, he didn't have the energy to start again at a different club. For all his faults, Wenger is a project manager. Or at least has become one. The game doesn't really allow for that at too many clubs now.
Besides, after fearing what he'd do with his life after Arsenal, I think after putting his feet up for a while, he realised he could cope quite easily without the stress of managing a football club.
Good on him too, I say.
posted on 23/8/21
No
posted on 23/8/21
No, unless you mean literally - Wenger or Arteta in which case obviously Wenger would be better.
However neither would be best.
Wenger is an absolute legend of mine and of the club but his time was more than up by the time he left.
posted on 23/8/21
Personally I believe that Wenger would easily get this squad to 6th and likely (given the last few seasons tables) get it to 4th too. Not so much because I believe that Wenger is just that damned good but moreso due to the specific players that we have and just how incompetent I see Arteta as being. Fact is this squad has alot more strength and talent than Wenger's last couple ever did and more to the point they're most all HIS type of player wanting to play his type of football.
One of the biggest reasons Arteta looks so lost and incompetent is that he has a bunch of footballers who want to play positive football but Arteta vision is pure, negative ANTI-FOOTBALL. Wenger would simply axe that crap and get the players doing what they're best at and love to do. That said, the only way I want him back at the club is as a statue outside it or best case scenario as the shock new OWNER. The fans who hounded Wenger out really don't deserve to have him come back for a short time to steady the ship and save the club from dire mess THEY caused by attacking him instead of the owner in the first place.
Crappy as this all is to sit through a LARGE portion of this fanbase DESERVES to suffer every bit of misery it's now going through. That's what you get when you bite the hand that feeds you
posted on 23/8/21
With Auba, Laca, Saka and Pepe I don't see how Wenger, Rodgers, Rafa etc wouldn't make the top four.
Spurs have won 2 out of 2 including against Man City, and their squad looks just as mediocre as ours IMO.
posted on 23/8/21
Yes
posted on 23/8/21
The football we are playing right now is EXACTLY the same as we were playing under Wenger in his later years. EXACTLY the same. so, NO!!!!
posted on 23/8/21
comment by Serial WUManiser™© π΅πΈπ¦π« (U1410)
posted 8 hours, 33 minutes ago
As DoF/TD, yes
As manager, fack no. He's the one that kicked off the rot in the first place.
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posted on 23/8/21
Wenger would never finish 8th last season and would definitely finish at least top 6 this season. Some people's ego just won't allow them to admit it because they feel like idiots now for not valuing top 4 achievements.
posted on 23/8/21
Would be a good interim appointment (IMO) but nothing more, he wouldn't be able to keep up anymore.
Do think there's an argument to be made the Arsenal fanbase might need it however it goes too. If he does well it's cathartic, if he doesn't have the desired effect it's closure - either way it's beneficial.
posted on 23/8/21
You should have listened. You were warned. Be careful what you wish for
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