I think people would be more inclined to give them more time if you could see any sort improvement. That isn't the case they've had two years and for the most part the football is terrible to watch add onto that the bizarre decisions like not getting rid of Xhaka and not giving Saliba a chance. All in all the patience has run out, him and Arteta have got to go.
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So basically it’s just another building job, same story since 06.
I mean there is nothing else you could have expected him to say, we all know about the process, but it’s up to the fans whether we have the patience fir another project… but like he said that is the reality so hey ho.
And with that it sounds pretty definitive there will be no changes. Well, results on the pitch will decide that.
The problem with his interview is that he is talking about shipping one out and getting another cover player in. He's not actually talking about, or looking at strengthening the first eleven where where your problems lie. You don't have a good enough first team to challenge - and that won't change by tweaking the reserve players. Also, can somebody please tell me who is better in your midfield than Torreira? When Arsenal play against the bigger teams, they need a player to sit in front of the back four - surely he is one of the best at that - certainly better than the other dross Arteta is putting his faith in.
comment by Eric_Draven (U20260)
posted 46 minutes ago
The problem with his interview is that he is talking about shipping one out and getting another cover player in. He's not actually talking about, or looking at strengthening the first eleven where where your problems lie. You don't have a good enough first team to challenge - and that won't change by tweaking the reserve players. Also, can somebody please tell me who is better in your midfield than Torreira? When Arsenal play against the bigger teams, they need a player to sit in front of the back four - surely he is one of the best at that - certainly better than the other dross Arteta is putting his faith in.
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Torreira been poor for a while and been crying about wanting to leave for a while.
He could have been great but obviously got homesick and since then he's been making awful decisions since which have both inhibited his long term future and ruined any resale value for us
That's exactly what it is OP. I think it's about time interviewers and reporters started to take both him and Arteta to task about "The process" They keep letting them get away with saying they need time for the process to work. When any fool can see this Arteta led process CAN'T work. Just a simple "But the process is obviously broken if you're failing this miserably after alomst 2 years."
I'd like to see Edu put on the spot by actually being directly challenged about the glaringly obvious flaw in keeping Arteta. Reporters keep giving him an easy time letting him spout about time and building. Unchallenged about the fact that CLEARLY Arteta IS the problem not just because he's incompetent but because he has (visibly for all to see) completely lost the dressing room too. Which as a former player Edu will know, by default means Arteta CANNOT recover this situation and the longer he is left in the job, the worse Arsenal's fortunes will become under his leadership.
Manager loses dressing room = Team fails miserably. Everybody know this. So it's time reporters went on the offensive and begun highlighting the absolute futility in giving Arteta any more time and putting Edu on the spot about that specifically. It's real easy to say "More time more time," generalising and ducking specifics not so easy to talk when nailed down specifically about Arteta's failures and shortcomings and the players blatantly wanting him sacked to so blatantly refusing to play for him.
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/12398180/edu-exclusive-interview-arsenal-transfer-policy-his-technical-director-role-and-mikel-arteta-discussed
A more detailed look at the interview from Sky.
Quite worrying when Edu says there is no real target
comment by WB2 {Tackle Like Tierney} (U8276)
posted 1 day ago
That's exactly what it is OP. I think it's about time interviewers and reporters started to take both him and Arteta to task about "The process" They keep letting them get away with saying they need time for the process to work. When any fool can see this Arteta led process CAN'T work. Just a simple "But the process is obviously broken if you're failing this miserably after alomst 2 years."
I'd like to see Edu put on the spot by actually being directly challenged about the glaringly obvious flaw in keeping Arteta. Reporters keep giving him an easy time letting him spout about time and building. Unchallenged about the fact that CLEARLY Arteta IS the problem not just because he's incompetent but because he has (visibly for all to see) completely lost the dressing room too. Which as a former player Edu will know, by default means Arteta CANNOT recover this situation and the longer he is left in the job, the worse Arsenal's fortunes will become under his leadership.
Manager loses dressing room = Team fails miserably. Everybody know this. So it's time reporters went on the offensive and begun highlighting the absolute futility in giving Arteta any more time and putting Edu on the spot about that specifically. It's real easy to say "More time more time," generalising and ducking specifics not so easy to talk when nailed down specifically about Arteta's failures and shortcomings and the players blatantly wanting him sacked to so blatantly refusing to play for him.
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Pretty naive of you. You need to understand that people and organisations only agree to "exclusive" interviews like this if they are asked the questions they are happy with and probably get to vet the final edit too.
This isn't like an obligatory interview such as a post match or press conference with a manager where the reporter can ask the tough questions. This is just a puff piece, and in fact I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was Arsenal that reached out to Sky to set it up.
I get that's a softball interview, I meant the press more generally and yes especially those present at obligatory PMIs and press conferences. They're softballing the useless too, keep letting him blame players and chat sh !t about "Time" as though 18 months isn't enough to see something other than boring, losing, dire to watch football. But then why would they do anything different whilst Emirates fans sit silent like mugs tolerating this pile of BS that NO OTHER SET OF FANS IN THE PL WOULD TAKE!
Until the fans start asking questions of Arteta loud and clear for all to hear in the stadium, reporters will just let Arteta, Edu and co keep peddling their BS line unchallenged. The "story" is the rampant fan discontent finally gets useless sacked. Or at least it might be if the feckin matchday Arsenal fans would FOCUS on the problem manager and getting rid and stop booing poor fecker players forced to play his way and ps us off every week doing it.
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posted on 4/9/21
I think people would be more inclined to give them more time if you could see any sort improvement. That isn't the case they've had two years and for the most part the football is terrible to watch add onto that the bizarre decisions like not getting rid of Xhaka and not giving Saliba a chance. All in all the patience has run out, him and Arteta have got to go.
posted on 4/9/21
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posted on 4/9/21
So basically it’s just another building job, same story since 06.
I mean there is nothing else you could have expected him to say, we all know about the process, but it’s up to the fans whether we have the patience fir another project… but like he said that is the reality so hey ho.
And with that it sounds pretty definitive there will be no changes. Well, results on the pitch will decide that.
posted on 4/9/21
The problem with his interview is that he is talking about shipping one out and getting another cover player in. He's not actually talking about, or looking at strengthening the first eleven where where your problems lie. You don't have a good enough first team to challenge - and that won't change by tweaking the reserve players. Also, can somebody please tell me who is better in your midfield than Torreira? When Arsenal play against the bigger teams, they need a player to sit in front of the back four - surely he is one of the best at that - certainly better than the other dross Arteta is putting his faith in.
posted on 4/9/21
comment by Eric_Draven (U20260)
posted 46 minutes ago
The problem with his interview is that he is talking about shipping one out and getting another cover player in. He's not actually talking about, or looking at strengthening the first eleven where where your problems lie. You don't have a good enough first team to challenge - and that won't change by tweaking the reserve players. Also, can somebody please tell me who is better in your midfield than Torreira? When Arsenal play against the bigger teams, they need a player to sit in front of the back four - surely he is one of the best at that - certainly better than the other dross Arteta is putting his faith in.
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Torreira been poor for a while and been crying about wanting to leave for a while.
He could have been great but obviously got homesick and since then he's been making awful decisions since which have both inhibited his long term future and ruined any resale value for us
posted on 5/9/21
That's exactly what it is OP. I think it's about time interviewers and reporters started to take both him and Arteta to task about "The process" They keep letting them get away with saying they need time for the process to work. When any fool can see this Arteta led process CAN'T work. Just a simple "But the process is obviously broken if you're failing this miserably after alomst 2 years."
I'd like to see Edu put on the spot by actually being directly challenged about the glaringly obvious flaw in keeping Arteta. Reporters keep giving him an easy time letting him spout about time and building. Unchallenged about the fact that CLEARLY Arteta IS the problem not just because he's incompetent but because he has (visibly for all to see) completely lost the dressing room too. Which as a former player Edu will know, by default means Arteta CANNOT recover this situation and the longer he is left in the job, the worse Arsenal's fortunes will become under his leadership.
Manager loses dressing room = Team fails miserably. Everybody know this. So it's time reporters went on the offensive and begun highlighting the absolute futility in giving Arteta any more time and putting Edu on the spot about that specifically. It's real easy to say "More time more time," generalising and ducking specifics not so easy to talk when nailed down specifically about Arteta's failures and shortcomings and the players blatantly wanting him sacked to so blatantly refusing to play for him.
posted on 5/9/21
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/12398180/edu-exclusive-interview-arsenal-transfer-policy-his-technical-director-role-and-mikel-arteta-discussed
A more detailed look at the interview from Sky.
Quite worrying when Edu says there is no real target
posted on 6/9/21
comment by WB2 {Tackle Like Tierney} (U8276)
posted 1 day ago
That's exactly what it is OP. I think it's about time interviewers and reporters started to take both him and Arteta to task about "The process" They keep letting them get away with saying they need time for the process to work. When any fool can see this Arteta led process CAN'T work. Just a simple "But the process is obviously broken if you're failing this miserably after alomst 2 years."
I'd like to see Edu put on the spot by actually being directly challenged about the glaringly obvious flaw in keeping Arteta. Reporters keep giving him an easy time letting him spout about time and building. Unchallenged about the fact that CLEARLY Arteta IS the problem not just because he's incompetent but because he has (visibly for all to see) completely lost the dressing room too. Which as a former player Edu will know, by default means Arteta CANNOT recover this situation and the longer he is left in the job, the worse Arsenal's fortunes will become under his leadership.
Manager loses dressing room = Team fails miserably. Everybody know this. So it's time reporters went on the offensive and begun highlighting the absolute futility in giving Arteta any more time and putting Edu on the spot about that specifically. It's real easy to say "More time more time," generalising and ducking specifics not so easy to talk when nailed down specifically about Arteta's failures and shortcomings and the players blatantly wanting him sacked to so blatantly refusing to play for him.
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Pretty naive of you. You need to understand that people and organisations only agree to "exclusive" interviews like this if they are asked the questions they are happy with and probably get to vet the final edit too.
This isn't like an obligatory interview such as a post match or press conference with a manager where the reporter can ask the tough questions. This is just a puff piece, and in fact I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was Arsenal that reached out to Sky to set it up.
posted on 6/9/21
I get that's a softball interview, I meant the press more generally and yes especially those present at obligatory PMIs and press conferences. They're softballing the useless too, keep letting him blame players and chat sh !t about "Time" as though 18 months isn't enough to see something other than boring, losing, dire to watch football. But then why would they do anything different whilst Emirates fans sit silent like mugs tolerating this pile of BS that NO OTHER SET OF FANS IN THE PL WOULD TAKE!
Until the fans start asking questions of Arteta loud and clear for all to hear in the stadium, reporters will just let Arteta, Edu and co keep peddling their BS line unchallenged. The "story" is the rampant fan discontent finally gets useless sacked. Or at least it might be if the feckin matchday Arsenal fans would FOCUS on the problem manager and getting rid and stop booing poor fecker players forced to play his way and ps us off every week doing it.
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