but richarlison gets to play can they really just pick and choose
feck fifa aswell
So the Brazilian FA, via FIFA, want PL players banned, for not travelling to a red list country, to play in a game that was cancelled at the last minute, by Brazilian Health officials, due to PL players breaking covid rules?🤔
Feck off. 😅
Tbf having them banned for one game is probably the lesser of two evils compared to sending them out and them having to isolate.
comment by Kroenke_out (U21076)
posted 1 minute ago
Tbf having them banned for one game is probably the lesser of two evils compared to sending them out and them having to isolate.
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Brazilian FA are a joke.
They have a game cancelled, due to the involvement of PL players playing for Argentina, and therefore breaking their own covid protocols, yet want Brazilian PL players sanctioned, for not turning up to this shambolic mess. 😅
This is why we need the ESL.
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 15 minutes ago
but richarlison gets to playcan they really just pick and choose
feck fifa aswell
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Everton released Richarlison for the Olympics when they were under no obligation to do so.
Brazil are acknowledging and repaying Everton's good faith in that instance, because they can.
Everyone exploits regulations when and as they can. If the shoe was on the other foot you'd be laughing.
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 15 minutes ago
but richarlison gets to playcan they really just pick and choose
feck fifa aswell
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Everton released Richarlison for the Olympics when they were under no obligation to do so.
Brazil are acknowledging and repaying Everton's good faith in that instance, because they can.
Everyone exploits regulations when and as they can. If the shoe was on the other foot you'd be laughing.
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Maybe, but beyond whos laughing or not, you can't exempt players based on good relationships, otherwise the rule is flawed, and has no real legitimacy.
Banning Brazillians? I didn't even know there were that many football players
Banning Brazilians. About time. I miss women with a little pubic hair.
It's strait out of a Monty Python sketch !
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 1 minute ago
Maybe, but beyond whos laughing or not, you can't exempt players based on good relationships, otherwise the rule is flawed, and has no real legitimacy.
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Of course you can. It's always been like this, because although under FIFA it's the national FAs who hold the stick and the clubs are under the obligation to release players if the FA so requires, there's a degree of leeway so that clubs can negotiate with FAs on a case-by-case basis.
This happens relatively often when a club feels a player has been run into the ground and needs a break, especially when the player also feels he needs a rest and prefers to be dispensed from national duty.
The real reason people are viewing this differently is because of the quarantine controversy and the inherent contradiction of wanting players banned when in theory at any rate they would or should not have been allowed into the country the Covid/quarantine controversy.
As an aside, people seem to be forgetting that before they met each other in Sao Paulo, Brazil had an away game in Chile, while Argentina had one in Venezuela. Unless those countries were also on the red list, then the clubs had no right to refuse them permission to play.
I don't know what went on behind the scenes, but perhaps there could have been a middle-of-the-road solution for all parties involved.
"Maybe, but beyond whos laughing or not, you can't exempt players based on good relationships, otherwise the rule is flawed, and has no real legitimacy."
Strange that one, there's a Leeds player being banned and it was he who said he didn't want to travel!..
So even if it's their choice the club gets shot!..
The only winners in this is Man U with them losing Fred.
its quite funny, interested to see how PL clubs respond and the FA.
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 2 hours, 48 minutes ago
This is why we need the ESL.
-----------------------------------------------------
Perez seems like a far more reasonable & intelligent guy. I'm sure they'd have been no corruption with him governing football
It's a complete joke this situation. Do the national trammpay their wages? It they let them.go they would be out of the games anyway if the players had any sense they would retire from international duty
Seems fair to me.
Clubs whose players did travel after being called up and who now have to self isolate & miss games should not be punished while those who refused to let their players go can then use them in their next PL game.
None of it makes any sense to me, the sensible decision was to not allow players to go to red zoned countries. Now theyre being punished for it? Punishing their own players interfering with their careers and seem to think its ok to tell a company when their employees they pay a fortune for in salaries can and can't play
what makes it worse is they tried to deport the argentinian players who went
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
Seems fair to me.
Clubs whose players did travel after being called up and who now have to self isolate & miss games should not be punished while those who refused to let their players go can then use them in their next PL game.
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should be arrested for endangering others and jailed, very selfish moves from those players
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
Seems fair to me.
Clubs whose players did travel after being called up and who now have to self isolate & miss games should not be punished while those who refused to let their players go can then use them in their next PL game.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
should be arrested for endangering others and jailed, very selfish moves from those players
----------------------------------------------------------------------
FIFA have to back this. Spurs and Villa release their players and now they have to isolate for 10 days, others didn’t release, they have to ban them. If they don’t ban them, then in 4 weeks time the next international friendlies are going to have no PL players as there is no punishment for not releasing.
FIFA will know this and will crack down hard
comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
Seems fair to me.
Clubs whose players did travel after being called up and who now have to self isolate & miss games should not be punished while those who refused to let their players go can then use them in their next PL game.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
should be arrested for endangering others and jailed, very selfish moves from those players
----------------------------------------------------------------------
FIFA have to back this. Spurs and Villa release their players and now they have to isolate for 10 days, others didn’t release, they have to ban them. If they don’t ban them, then in 4 weeks time the next international friendlies are going to have no PL players as there is no punishment for not releasing.
FIFA will know this and will crack down hard
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Did they really release the players?
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2021/sep/06/tottenham-angry-at-lo-celso-and-romero-argentina-brazil-abandoned
“ The match in São Paulo was halted in the seventh minute when local health officials entered the pitch and accused the two Spurs players, and the Aston Villa pair Emiliano Martínez and Emiliano Buendía, of violating Covid-19 protocols in order to enter the country. Regardless of that intervention, their return to the UK was always going to be a concern given all of mainland South America is on the government’s red list, and it has emerged that Spurs did not give Lo Celso and Romero permission to join up with Argentina.”
They've unbanned them now
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posted on 8/9/21
but richarlison gets to play can they really just pick and choose
feck fifa aswell
posted on 8/9/21
So the Brazilian FA, via FIFA, want PL players banned, for not travelling to a red list country, to play in a game that was cancelled at the last minute, by Brazilian Health officials, due to PL players breaking covid rules?🤔
Feck off. 😅
posted on 8/9/21
Tbf having them banned for one game is probably the lesser of two evils compared to sending them out and them having to isolate.
posted on 8/9/21
comment by Kroenke_out (U21076)
posted 1 minute ago
Tbf having them banned for one game is probably the lesser of two evils compared to sending them out and them having to isolate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Brazilian FA are a joke.
They have a game cancelled, due to the involvement of PL players playing for Argentina, and therefore breaking their own covid protocols, yet want Brazilian PL players sanctioned, for not turning up to this shambolic mess. 😅
posted on 8/9/21
This is why we need the ESL.
posted on 8/9/21
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 15 minutes ago
but richarlison gets to playcan they really just pick and choose
feck fifa aswell
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Everton released Richarlison for the Olympics when they were under no obligation to do so.
Brazil are acknowledging and repaying Everton's good faith in that instance, because they can.
Everyone exploits regulations when and as they can. If the shoe was on the other foot you'd be laughing.
posted on 8/9/21
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 15 minutes ago
but richarlison gets to playcan they really just pick and choose
feck fifa aswell
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Everton released Richarlison for the Olympics when they were under no obligation to do so.
Brazil are acknowledging and repaying Everton's good faith in that instance, because they can.
Everyone exploits regulations when and as they can. If the shoe was on the other foot you'd be laughing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe, but beyond whos laughing or not, you can't exempt players based on good relationships, otherwise the rule is flawed, and has no real legitimacy.
posted on 8/9/21
Banning Brazillians? I didn't even know there were that many football players
posted on 8/9/21
Banning Brazilians. About time. I miss women with a little pubic hair.
posted on 8/9/21
It's strait out of a Monty Python sketch !
posted on 8/9/21
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 1 minute ago
Maybe, but beyond whos laughing or not, you can't exempt players based on good relationships, otherwise the rule is flawed, and has no real legitimacy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course you can. It's always been like this, because although under FIFA it's the national FAs who hold the stick and the clubs are under the obligation to release players if the FA so requires, there's a degree of leeway so that clubs can negotiate with FAs on a case-by-case basis.
This happens relatively often when a club feels a player has been run into the ground and needs a break, especially when the player also feels he needs a rest and prefers to be dispensed from national duty.
The real reason people are viewing this differently is because of the quarantine controversy and the inherent contradiction of wanting players banned when in theory at any rate they would or should not have been allowed into the country the Covid/quarantine controversy.
As an aside, people seem to be forgetting that before they met each other in Sao Paulo, Brazil had an away game in Chile, while Argentina had one in Venezuela. Unless those countries were also on the red list, then the clubs had no right to refuse them permission to play.
I don't know what went on behind the scenes, but perhaps there could have been a middle-of-the-road solution for all parties involved.
posted on 8/9/21
"Maybe, but beyond whos laughing or not, you can't exempt players based on good relationships, otherwise the rule is flawed, and has no real legitimacy."
Strange that one, there's a Leeds player being banned and it was he who said he didn't want to travel!..
So even if it's their choice the club gets shot!..
posted on 8/9/21
The only winners in this is Man U with them losing Fred.
posted on 8/9/21
its quite funny, interested to see how PL clubs respond and the FA.
posted on 8/9/21
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 2 hours, 48 minutes ago
This is why we need the ESL.
-----------------------------------------------------
Perez seems like a far more reasonable & intelligent guy. I'm sure they'd have been no corruption with him governing football
posted on 8/9/21
It's a complete joke this situation. Do the national trammpay their wages? It they let them.go they would be out of the games anyway if the players had any sense they would retire from international duty
posted on 8/9/21
Seems fair to me.
Clubs whose players did travel after being called up and who now have to self isolate & miss games should not be punished while those who refused to let their players go can then use them in their next PL game.
posted on 8/9/21
None of it makes any sense to me, the sensible decision was to not allow players to go to red zoned countries. Now theyre being punished for it? Punishing their own players interfering with their careers and seem to think its ok to tell a company when their employees they pay a fortune for in salaries can and can't play
posted on 8/9/21
what makes it worse is they tried to deport the argentinian players who went
posted on 8/9/21
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
Seems fair to me.
Clubs whose players did travel after being called up and who now have to self isolate & miss games should not be punished while those who refused to let their players go can then use them in their next PL game.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
should be arrested for endangering others and jailed, very selfish moves from those players
posted on 8/9/21
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
Seems fair to me.
Clubs whose players did travel after being called up and who now have to self isolate & miss games should not be punished while those who refused to let their players go can then use them in their next PL game.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
should be arrested for endangering others and jailed, very selfish moves from those players
----------------------------------------------------------------------
FIFA have to back this. Spurs and Villa release their players and now they have to isolate for 10 days, others didn’t release, they have to ban them. If they don’t ban them, then in 4 weeks time the next international friendlies are going to have no PL players as there is no punishment for not releasing.
FIFA will know this and will crack down hard
posted on 8/9/21
comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
Seems fair to me.
Clubs whose players did travel after being called up and who now have to self isolate & miss games should not be punished while those who refused to let their players go can then use them in their next PL game.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
should be arrested for endangering others and jailed, very selfish moves from those players
----------------------------------------------------------------------
FIFA have to back this. Spurs and Villa release their players and now they have to isolate for 10 days, others didn’t release, they have to ban them. If they don’t ban them, then in 4 weeks time the next international friendlies are going to have no PL players as there is no punishment for not releasing.
FIFA will know this and will crack down hard
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Did they really release the players?
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2021/sep/06/tottenham-angry-at-lo-celso-and-romero-argentina-brazil-abandoned
“ The match in São Paulo was halted in the seventh minute when local health officials entered the pitch and accused the two Spurs players, and the Aston Villa pair Emiliano Martínez and Emiliano Buendía, of violating Covid-19 protocols in order to enter the country. Regardless of that intervention, their return to the UK was always going to be a concern given all of mainland South America is on the government’s red list, and it has emerged that Spurs did not give Lo Celso and Romero permission to join up with Argentina.”
posted on 11/9/21
They've unbanned them now
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