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comment by Happy Pranks 2021 FF JA LFC Champion(U22336)
posted 32 minutes ago
The football was always going to be a tough watch under Nuno, see wolves the last few years.
What did you expect
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We're not the ones who appointed him and asked him to play uncharacteristic attacking football. We knew, you knew, everybody knew. Apart from two people - Paratici and Levy.
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Exactly. Why are you making out we wanted Nuno ? Most of us were excited about Conte. That’s who we should of gone for. But, we ain’t ambitious enough to get him board, hence why Bald to** pot went for his 8th choice. The day that c+* gets out this club, is the day I’ll be ecstatic.
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Nuno was appointed for one reason only…….
He is cheap
I want levy out before anyone else now
Unless Enic sell he is unfortunately going nowhere
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I think it was Nuno as we struggled to find anyone else and the clock was ticking.
I would have taken the Ajax guy but beyond that and Conte (who would rather be unemployed than work for the Italian Champions or Spurs) everything else was a massive risk or just not prepared to come.
Its one big factor in why Arteta remains at Arsenal....who else is out there who is attainable? Big Sam?
You also have to be realistic about the finances. We 'borrowed' another £150m to fill the pandemic black hole, needed to spend on players and just paid off Jose. Managers like Rodgers (currently below us) would have cost a fortune to prise away.
Bit lazy to simply state it was the cheapest options.
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You're forgetting the money we very nearly spend on Traore, Vlahovic and Martinez. If we'd wanted to, we could have paid the compensation on a lot of good managers. Brendan didn't want to come so he was a no-go anyway but Potter was defo attainable had we the guts to pay his compensation, which surely wouldn't have been much over £10m.
Nuno was the unambitious, cheap choice. The one that also happens to be a Mendes client. Paratici didn't pick him because he thought he was the best man for the job. He picked him because he's the key to Mendes' little black book. Then he spun a series of lies about Nuno and his attacking philosophy to Levy.
Every single decision the club has made since sacking Poch has been a fecking disaster. Every single one.
I want to get behind Nuno but I too didn't agree with the appointment. Levy being persuaded by Paratici that Nuno can play attractive football because he did it at Valencia, is kind of like hiring Mourinho thinking he'll still hit the heights of his old days. There is some seriously worrying decision making going on at the top of our club, not just on the pitch.
The performance the other day was shocking from everyone. Never seen us involved in such a one-sided display when we are the ones on the back foot, and it was against facking Palace! Not a prime Bayern Munich or City or anyone like that.
As much as Nuno had a shocker, the squad up front just isn't very deep. You scratch a bit at the surface and it comes apart. We should be challenging top 4 this season but I'm starting to question how realistic that is.
The thing about Nuno is that he is a decent guy, who I want to like. He will represent our club well as a man, unlike Mourinho, so that immediately gives him some benefit of the doubt. ultimately though, you have to play attacking football as manager of Tottenham. Mourinho got away with it due to no fans being there.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 8 minutes ago
I want to get behind Nuno but I too didn't agree with the appointment. Levy being persuaded by Paratici that Nuno can play attractive football because he did it at Valencia, is kind of like hiring Mourinho thinking he'll still hit the heights of his old days. There is some seriously worrying decision making going on at the top of our club, not just on the pitch.
The performance the other day was shocking from everyone. Never seen us involved in such a one-sided display when we are the ones on the back foot, and it was against facking Palace! Not a prime Bayern Munich or City or anyone like that.
As much as Nuno had a shocker, the squad up front just isn't very deep. You scratch a bit at the surface and it comes apart. We should be challenging top 4 this season but I'm starting to question how realistic that is.
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Come on Spurtle. I know your optimistic mate, but this bordering on Sandy levels of delusion. Challenging top 4? We are light years behind all of Liverpool, chelsea, City and United. All 4 are miles better and all 4 have miles better teams than us. We have literally 0 chance of making top 4
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comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Blackpolespur (U9242)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Happy Pranks 2021 FF JA LFC Champion(U22336)
posted 32 minutes ago
The football was always going to be a tough watch under Nuno, see wolves the last few years.
What did you expect
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We're not the ones who appointed him and asked him to play uncharacteristic attacking football. We knew, you knew, everybody knew. Apart from two people - Paratici and Levy.
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Exactly. Why are you making out we wanted Nuno ? Most of us were excited about Conte. That’s who we should of gone for. But, we ain’t ambitious enough to get him board, hence why Bald to** pot went for his 8th choice. The day that c+* gets out this club, is the day I’ll be ecstatic.
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Nuno was appointed for one reason only…….
He is cheap
I want levy out before anyone else now
Unless Enic sell he is unfortunately going nowhere
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I think it was Nuno as we struggled to find anyone else and the clock was ticking.
I would have taken the Ajax guy but beyond that and Conte (who would rather be unemployed than work for the Italian Champions or Spurs) everything else was a massive risk or just not prepared to come.
Its one big factor in why Arteta remains at Arsenal....who else is out there who is attainable? Big Sam?
You also have to be realistic about the finances. We 'borrowed' another £150m to fill the pandemic black hole, needed to spend on players and just paid off Jose. Managers like Rodgers (currently below us) would have cost a fortune to prise away.
Bit lazy to simply state it was the cheapest options.
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You're forgetting the money we very nearly spend on Traore, Vlahovic and Martinez. If we'd wanted to, we could have paid the compensation on a lot of good managers. Brendan didn't want to come so he was a no-go anyway but Potter was defo attainable had we the guts to pay his compensation, which surely wouldn't have been much over £10m.
Nuno was the unambitious, cheap choice. The one that also happens to be a Mendes client. Paratici didn't pick him because he thought he was the best man for the job. He picked him because he's the key to Mendes' little black book. Then he spun a series of lies about Nuno and his attacking philosophy to Levy.
Every single decision the club has made since sacking Poch has been a fecking disaster. Every single one.
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What you say makes some sense but Nuno is only 4 games in with W3L1 record so its a bit early for conspiracy theories as to how a manager who people think does not fit the job, got the job.
I aint gonna shoot him down because of who his agent is. Jose had the same agent so it doesnt really stack up anyway.
I think we will all be surprised if Nuno is a roaring success and especially f he delivers it with style but like i say its too soon to start judging and concluding that 2+2 =7
Agree with most that's been said. I hate watching us stand off the opposition watching the ball getting popped about. Nothing worse. There's a handful of teams where you can say that's forgivable. We should be on the front foot, looking to dominate and control games with the ball at our feet. You look at Liverpool the other night. They were pressing Leeds all over the place. Players always available. We were miles off it.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 18 minutes ago
I want to get behind Nuno but I too didn't agree with the appointment. Levy being persuaded by Paratici that Nuno can play attractive football because he did it at Valencia, is kind of like hiring Mourinho thinking he'll still hit the heights of his old days. There is some seriously worrying decision making going on at the top of our club, not just on the pitch.
The performance the other day was shocking from everyone. Never seen us involved in such a one-sided display when we are the ones on the back foot, and it was against facking Palace! Not a prime Bayern Munich or City or anyone like that.
As much as Nuno had a shocker, the squad up front just isn't very deep. You scratch a bit at the surface and it comes apart. We should be challenging top 4 this season but I'm starting to question how realistic that is.
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This is Nuno's first setback after what we can probably describe as a decent start.
Lets see how we respond to it. This is often the measure of a team and a manager.
We'd expect a reaction, right? A top performance vs Chelsea. Showing quality in all the areas where we showed none vs Palace.
Lets at least see how he managers us in adversity?
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comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 26 minutes ago
I’m no longer livid about Saturday, although at the time I was almost speechless with anger, a bit like Ashley Cole was when Arsenal only offered him £55k a week.
Now I’m just disappointed but, I’m trying to overlook Nunos abysmal decision making on the day and accept that on other days we will have much better options available - Son, Romero, Bergwijn, GLC, maybe even a fit Ndombele if we get really lucky and the fatcunt starts meeting his sports science targets.
Problem is Nuno doesn’t have an instant chance to rectify it as we have Chelsea next, which we’d probably all have written off regardless of the Palace result. The NLD is his opportunity to make up for that shambles. Our last outing in that game under Jose was one of the worst disgraces in living memory, so Nuno had better deliver a performance and a result worthy of the fans passion or he can go the same way as his mentor.
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comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 26 minutes ago
I’m no longer livid about Saturday, although at the time I was almost speechless with anger, a bit like Ashley Cole was when Arsenal only offered him £55k a week.
Now I’m just disappointed but, I’m trying to overlook Nunos abysmal decision making on the day and accept that on other days we will have much better options available - Son, Romero, Bergwijn, GLC, maybe even a fit Ndombele if we get really lucky and the fatcunt starts meeting his sports science targets.
Problem is Nuno doesn’t have an instant chance to rectify it as we have Chelsea next, which we’d probably all have written off regardless of the Palace result. The NLD is his opportunity to make up for that shambles. Our last outing in that game under Jose was one of the worst disgraces in living memory, so Nuno had better deliver a performance and a result worthy of the fans passion or he can go the same way as his mentor.
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I think if we had beaten Palace Ace, we would have gone into the Chelsea game a lot more confident, especially with 4 wins on the bounce. That awful palace puts us back too square one for me. Completely cancels out our 1st 3 wins. It was that poor. Chelsea are twice the team we are and will pi^^ all over us. We won’t get another chance against a top side like we did against City. Spurs 0- 3 Chelsea. Lukaku will slaughter us.
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comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 8 minutes ago
I want to get behind Nuno but I too didn't agree with the appointment. Levy being persuaded by Paratici that Nuno can play attractive football because he did it at Valencia, is kind of like hiring Mourinho thinking he'll still hit the heights of his old days. There is some seriously worrying decision making going on at the top of our club, not just on the pitch.
The performance the other day was shocking from everyone. Never seen us involved in such a one-sided display when we are the ones on the back foot, and it was against facking Palace! Not a prime Bayern Munich or City or anyone like that.
As much as Nuno had a shocker, the squad up front just isn't very deep. You scratch a bit at the surface and it comes apart. We should be challenging top 4 this season but I'm starting to question how realistic that is.
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Come on Spurtle. I know your optimistic mate, but this bordering on Sandy levels of delusion. Challenging top 4? We are light years behind all of Liverpool, chelsea, City and United. All 4 are miles better and all 4 have miles better teams than us. We have literally 0 chance of making top 4
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Don, I don't believe we'll get into the top 4 either. By challenging I just mean be in the hunt near the end of the season. I'm saying this is what the target should have been this season since we finished a few points outside of it last season. Obviously we left ourselves short in the transfer window so not sure we'll have enough to at least have a sniff of top 4 come March.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 18 minutes ago
I want to get behind Nuno but I too didn't agree with the appointment. Levy being persuaded by Paratici that Nuno can play attractive football because he did it at Valencia, is kind of like hiring Mourinho thinking he'll still hit the heights of his old days. There is some seriously worrying decision making going on at the top of our club, not just on the pitch.
The performance the other day was shocking from everyone. Never seen us involved in such a one-sided display when we are the ones on the back foot, and it was against facking Palace! Not a prime Bayern Munich or City or anyone like that.
As much as Nuno had a shocker, the squad up front just isn't very deep. You scratch a bit at the surface and it comes apart. We should be challenging top 4 this season but I'm starting to question how realistic that is.
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This is Nuno's first setback after what we can probably describe as a decent start.
Lets see how we respond to it. This is often the measure of a team and a manager.
We'd expect a reaction, right? A top performance vs Chelsea. Showing quality in all the areas where we showed none vs Palace.
Lets at least see how he managers us in adversity?
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Yeah I agree. Don't think anyone has the pitchforks out yet mate. We all know Nuno needs some time even with that terrible tactical performance at the weekend.
Still was a very odd appointment given what the apparent plan was for the future of Spurs.
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 26 minutes ago
I’m no longer livid about Saturday, although at the time I was almost speechless with anger, a bit like Ashley Cole was when Arsenal only offered him £55k a week.
Now I’m just disappointed but, I’m trying to overlook Nunos abysmal decision making on the day and accept that on other days we will have much better options available - Son, Romero, Bergwijn, GLC, maybe even a fit Ndombele if we get really lucky and the fatcunt starts meeting his sports science targets.
Problem is Nuno doesn’t have an instant chance to rectify it as we have Chelsea next, which we’d probably all have written off regardless of the Palace result. The NLD is his opportunity to make up for that shambles. Our last outing in that game under Jose was one of the worst disgraces in living memory, so Nuno had better deliver a performance and a result worthy of the fans passion or he can go the same way as his mentor.
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I think if we had beaten Palace Ace, we would have gone into the Chelsea game a lot more confident, especially with 4 wins on the bounce. That awful palace puts us back too square one for me. Completely cancels out our 1st 3 wins. It was that poor. Chelsea are twice the team we are and will pi^^ all over us. We won’t get another chance against a top side like we did against City. Spurs 0- 3 Chelsea. Lukaku will slaughter us.
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Yep, Lukaku will murder Sanchez, It’ll be like a throwback to when Heskey used to murder Judas.
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Does confidence even exist at spurs. Palace are no mugs and were very good at the weekend but christ we were top of the league ffs and have far better players.
So often you just know after a little nice run or a big result that what will follow will be a disaster
And this is my issue. I know everyone is waxing lyrical about Sanchez/ Dier, but I just don’t trust them as far as I can throw them. Fans are sitting there hoping Sanchez and Dier are fit. Have we become that pi*^ poor where we yearn the return of these 2 clowns ? I don’t give a f** if they kept 3 clean sheets. They are both a pair of clowns that will eventually get found out. Not one of them makes the 1st 11 in any of the other top teams. I just hope too god Romero ends up being the player we hope. If we have too endure Sanchez and Dier all season, we might as well give up the season now.
I know everyone is waxing lyrical about Sanchez/ Dier,
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Who is? They haven't been terrible this season is all
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I know everyone is waxing lyrical about Sanchez/ Dier,
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Who is? They haven't been terrible this season is all
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They have had a couple of good games. That doesn’t excuse the heap of s** performances from them both the last few years. They will need to have at least half a good season and keep this form up until Xmas until I trust them both. My point is, we are all hoping Sanchez and Dier are fit. When have we become this bang average where our defensive hopes rely on Sanchez and bloody Dier. The fall from Grace is incredible
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bryãn's left boot (U22081)
posted 5 minutes ago
I know everyone is waxing lyrical about Sanchez/ Dier,
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Who is? They haven't been terrible this season is all
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They have had a couple of good games. That doesn’t excuse the heap of s** performances from them both the last few years. They will need to have at least half a good season and keep this form up until Xmas until I trust them both. My point is, we are all hoping Sanchez and Dier are fit. When have we become this bang average where our defensive hopes rely on Sanchez and bloody Dier. The fall from Grace is incredible
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You are forgetting out £45m Romero. Sure he needs some game time but ultimately we all know he is the future may be with Rodon, not Dier & Sanchez going forward.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bryãn's left boot (U22081)
posted 5 minutes ago
I know everyone is waxing lyrical about Sanchez/ Dier,
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Who is? They haven't been terrible this season is all
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They have had a couple of good games. That doesn’t excuse the heap of s** performances from them both the last few years. They will need to have at least half a good season and keep this form up until Xmas until I trust them both. My point is, we are all hoping Sanchez and Dier are fit. When have we become this bang average where our defensive hopes rely on Sanchez and bloody Dier. The fall from Grace is incredible
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You are forgetting out £45m Romero. Sure he needs some game time but ultimately we all know he is the future may be with Rodon, not Dier & Sanchez going forward.
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Well that’s what I hope. Hence why I was saying I hope Romero is our answer in defence. Sanchez and Dier for me are not a long term defensive partnership. They are both far too unreliable and 100% will mess up at some point because it’s in their nature. I’m just not convinced at all with the clean sheets. If it weren’t for Traore’s awful finishing, that would have already been 1 f** up by Dier that caused a goal v Wolves. That’s what him and Sanchez are capable of. Don’t even get me started on that embarrassing moment for Sanchez v Gundogen last season
Romero Rodon
CB paring could be great for years. Both the same age.
Tanganga I still think could be good at CB unlike some believe.
I like and hate sanchez and dier for different reasons. Both had great opening 3 games. I really want sanchez to be good more than dier because his ceiling is so much higher, but he's more weak and less commanding. Dier albeit not great himself, is more comfortable on the ball as well.
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comment by Blackpolespur (U9242)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Happy Pranks 2021 FF JA LFC Champion(U22336)
posted 32 minutes ago
The football was always going to be a tough watch under Nuno, see wolves the last few years.
What did you expect
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We're not the ones who appointed him and asked him to play uncharacteristic attacking football. We knew, you knew, everybody knew. Apart from two people - Paratici and Levy.
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Exactly. Why are you making out we wanted Nuno ? Most of us were excited about Conte. That’s who we should of gone for. But, we ain’t ambitious enough to get him board, hence why Bald to** pot went for his 8th choice. The day that c+* gets out this club, is the day I’ll be ecstatic.
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Nuno was appointed for one reason only…….
He is cheap
I want levy out before anyone else now
Unless Enic sell he is unfortunately going nowhere
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I think it was Nuno as we struggled to find anyone else and the clock was ticking.
I would have taken the Ajax guy but beyond that and Conte (who would rather be unemployed than work for the Italian Champions or Spurs) everything else was a massive risk or just not prepared to come.
Its one big factor in why Arteta remains at Arsenal....who else is out there who is attainable? Big Sam?
You also have to be realistic about the finances. We 'borrowed' another £150m to fill the pandemic black hole, needed to spend on players and just paid off Jose. Managers like Rodgers (currently below us) would have cost a fortune to prise away.
Bit lazy to simply state it was the cheapest options.
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You're forgetting the money we very nearly spend on Traore, Vlahovic and Martinez. If we'd wanted to, we could have paid the compensation on a lot of good managers. Brendan didn't want to come so he was a no-go anyway but Potter was defo attainable had we the guts to pay his compensation, which surely wouldn't have been much over £10m.
Nuno was the unambitious, cheap choice. The one that also happens to be a Mendes client. Paratici didn't pick him because he thought he was the best man for the job. He picked him because he's the key to Mendes' little black book. Then he spun a series of lies about Nuno and his attacking philosophy to Levy.
Every single decision the club has made since sacking Poch has been a fecking disaster. Every single one.
posted on 13/9/21
I want to get behind Nuno but I too didn't agree with the appointment. Levy being persuaded by Paratici that Nuno can play attractive football because he did it at Valencia, is kind of like hiring Mourinho thinking he'll still hit the heights of his old days. There is some seriously worrying decision making going on at the top of our club, not just on the pitch.
The performance the other day was shocking from everyone. Never seen us involved in such a one-sided display when we are the ones on the back foot, and it was against facking Palace! Not a prime Bayern Munich or City or anyone like that.
As much as Nuno had a shocker, the squad up front just isn't very deep. You scratch a bit at the surface and it comes apart. We should be challenging top 4 this season but I'm starting to question how realistic that is.
posted on 13/9/21
The thing about Nuno is that he is a decent guy, who I want to like. He will represent our club well as a man, unlike Mourinho, so that immediately gives him some benefit of the doubt. ultimately though, you have to play attacking football as manager of Tottenham. Mourinho got away with it due to no fans being there.
posted on 13/9/21
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 8 minutes ago
I want to get behind Nuno but I too didn't agree with the appointment. Levy being persuaded by Paratici that Nuno can play attractive football because he did it at Valencia, is kind of like hiring Mourinho thinking he'll still hit the heights of his old days. There is some seriously worrying decision making going on at the top of our club, not just on the pitch.
The performance the other day was shocking from everyone. Never seen us involved in such a one-sided display when we are the ones on the back foot, and it was against facking Palace! Not a prime Bayern Munich or City or anyone like that.
As much as Nuno had a shocker, the squad up front just isn't very deep. You scratch a bit at the surface and it comes apart. We should be challenging top 4 this season but I'm starting to question how realistic that is.
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Come on Spurtle. I know your optimistic mate, but this bordering on Sandy levels of delusion. Challenging top 4? We are light years behind all of Liverpool, chelsea, City and United. All 4 are miles better and all 4 have miles better teams than us. We have literally 0 chance of making top 4
posted on 13/9/21
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Blackpolespur (U9242)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Happy Pranks 2021 FF JA LFC Champion(U22336)
posted 32 minutes ago
The football was always going to be a tough watch under Nuno, see wolves the last few years.
What did you expect
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We're not the ones who appointed him and asked him to play uncharacteristic attacking football. We knew, you knew, everybody knew. Apart from two people - Paratici and Levy.
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Exactly. Why are you making out we wanted Nuno ? Most of us were excited about Conte. That’s who we should of gone for. But, we ain’t ambitious enough to get him board, hence why Bald to** pot went for his 8th choice. The day that c+* gets out this club, is the day I’ll be ecstatic.
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Nuno was appointed for one reason only…….
He is cheap
I want levy out before anyone else now
Unless Enic sell he is unfortunately going nowhere
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I think it was Nuno as we struggled to find anyone else and the clock was ticking.
I would have taken the Ajax guy but beyond that and Conte (who would rather be unemployed than work for the Italian Champions or Spurs) everything else was a massive risk or just not prepared to come.
Its one big factor in why Arteta remains at Arsenal....who else is out there who is attainable? Big Sam?
You also have to be realistic about the finances. We 'borrowed' another £150m to fill the pandemic black hole, needed to spend on players and just paid off Jose. Managers like Rodgers (currently below us) would have cost a fortune to prise away.
Bit lazy to simply state it was the cheapest options.
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You're forgetting the money we very nearly spend on Traore, Vlahovic and Martinez. If we'd wanted to, we could have paid the compensation on a lot of good managers. Brendan didn't want to come so he was a no-go anyway but Potter was defo attainable had we the guts to pay his compensation, which surely wouldn't have been much over £10m.
Nuno was the unambitious, cheap choice. The one that also happens to be a Mendes client. Paratici didn't pick him because he thought he was the best man for the job. He picked him because he's the key to Mendes' little black book. Then he spun a series of lies about Nuno and his attacking philosophy to Levy.
Every single decision the club has made since sacking Poch has been a fecking disaster. Every single one.
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What you say makes some sense but Nuno is only 4 games in with W3L1 record so its a bit early for conspiracy theories as to how a manager who people think does not fit the job, got the job.
I aint gonna shoot him down because of who his agent is. Jose had the same agent so it doesnt really stack up anyway.
I think we will all be surprised if Nuno is a roaring success and especially f he delivers it with style but like i say its too soon to start judging and concluding that 2+2 =7
posted on 13/9/21
Agree with most that's been said. I hate watching us stand off the opposition watching the ball getting popped about. Nothing worse. There's a handful of teams where you can say that's forgivable. We should be on the front foot, looking to dominate and control games with the ball at our feet. You look at Liverpool the other night. They were pressing Leeds all over the place. Players always available. We were miles off it.
posted on 13/9/21
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 18 minutes ago
I want to get behind Nuno but I too didn't agree with the appointment. Levy being persuaded by Paratici that Nuno can play attractive football because he did it at Valencia, is kind of like hiring Mourinho thinking he'll still hit the heights of his old days. There is some seriously worrying decision making going on at the top of our club, not just on the pitch.
The performance the other day was shocking from everyone. Never seen us involved in such a one-sided display when we are the ones on the back foot, and it was against facking Palace! Not a prime Bayern Munich or City or anyone like that.
As much as Nuno had a shocker, the squad up front just isn't very deep. You scratch a bit at the surface and it comes apart. We should be challenging top 4 this season but I'm starting to question how realistic that is.
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This is Nuno's first setback after what we can probably describe as a decent start.
Lets see how we respond to it. This is often the measure of a team and a manager.
We'd expect a reaction, right? A top performance vs Chelsea. Showing quality in all the areas where we showed none vs Palace.
Lets at least see how he managers us in adversity?
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comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 26 minutes ago
I’m no longer livid about Saturday, although at the time I was almost speechless with anger, a bit like Ashley Cole was when Arsenal only offered him £55k a week.
Now I’m just disappointed but, I’m trying to overlook Nunos abysmal decision making on the day and accept that on other days we will have much better options available - Son, Romero, Bergwijn, GLC, maybe even a fit Ndombele if we get really lucky and the fatcunt starts meeting his sports science targets.
Problem is Nuno doesn’t have an instant chance to rectify it as we have Chelsea next, which we’d probably all have written off regardless of the Palace result. The NLD is his opportunity to make up for that shambles. Our last outing in that game under Jose was one of the worst disgraces in living memory, so Nuno had better deliver a performance and a result worthy of the fans passion or he can go the same way as his mentor.
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posted on 13/9/21
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 26 minutes ago
I’m no longer livid about Saturday, although at the time I was almost speechless with anger, a bit like Ashley Cole was when Arsenal only offered him £55k a week.
Now I’m just disappointed but, I’m trying to overlook Nunos abysmal decision making on the day and accept that on other days we will have much better options available - Son, Romero, Bergwijn, GLC, maybe even a fit Ndombele if we get really lucky and the fatcunt starts meeting his sports science targets.
Problem is Nuno doesn’t have an instant chance to rectify it as we have Chelsea next, which we’d probably all have written off regardless of the Palace result. The NLD is his opportunity to make up for that shambles. Our last outing in that game under Jose was one of the worst disgraces in living memory, so Nuno had better deliver a performance and a result worthy of the fans passion or he can go the same way as his mentor.
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I think if we had beaten Palace Ace, we would have gone into the Chelsea game a lot more confident, especially with 4 wins on the bounce. That awful palace puts us back too square one for me. Completely cancels out our 1st 3 wins. It was that poor. Chelsea are twice the team we are and will pi^^ all over us. We won’t get another chance against a top side like we did against City. Spurs 0- 3 Chelsea. Lukaku will slaughter us.
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comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 8 minutes ago
I want to get behind Nuno but I too didn't agree with the appointment. Levy being persuaded by Paratici that Nuno can play attractive football because he did it at Valencia, is kind of like hiring Mourinho thinking he'll still hit the heights of his old days. There is some seriously worrying decision making going on at the top of our club, not just on the pitch.
The performance the other day was shocking from everyone. Never seen us involved in such a one-sided display when we are the ones on the back foot, and it was against facking Palace! Not a prime Bayern Munich or City or anyone like that.
As much as Nuno had a shocker, the squad up front just isn't very deep. You scratch a bit at the surface and it comes apart. We should be challenging top 4 this season but I'm starting to question how realistic that is.
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Come on Spurtle. I know your optimistic mate, but this bordering on Sandy levels of delusion. Challenging top 4? We are light years behind all of Liverpool, chelsea, City and United. All 4 are miles better and all 4 have miles better teams than us. We have literally 0 chance of making top 4
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Don, I don't believe we'll get into the top 4 either. By challenging I just mean be in the hunt near the end of the season. I'm saying this is what the target should have been this season since we finished a few points outside of it last season. Obviously we left ourselves short in the transfer window so not sure we'll have enough to at least have a sniff of top 4 come March.
posted on 13/9/21
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 18 minutes ago
I want to get behind Nuno but I too didn't agree with the appointment. Levy being persuaded by Paratici that Nuno can play attractive football because he did it at Valencia, is kind of like hiring Mourinho thinking he'll still hit the heights of his old days. There is some seriously worrying decision making going on at the top of our club, not just on the pitch.
The performance the other day was shocking from everyone. Never seen us involved in such a one-sided display when we are the ones on the back foot, and it was against facking Palace! Not a prime Bayern Munich or City or anyone like that.
As much as Nuno had a shocker, the squad up front just isn't very deep. You scratch a bit at the surface and it comes apart. We should be challenging top 4 this season but I'm starting to question how realistic that is.
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This is Nuno's first setback after what we can probably describe as a decent start.
Lets see how we respond to it. This is often the measure of a team and a manager.
We'd expect a reaction, right? A top performance vs Chelsea. Showing quality in all the areas where we showed none vs Palace.
Lets at least see how he managers us in adversity?
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Yeah I agree. Don't think anyone has the pitchforks out yet mate. We all know Nuno needs some time even with that terrible tactical performance at the weekend.
Still was a very odd appointment given what the apparent plan was for the future of Spurs.
posted on 13/9/21
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 26 minutes ago
I’m no longer livid about Saturday, although at the time I was almost speechless with anger, a bit like Ashley Cole was when Arsenal only offered him £55k a week.
Now I’m just disappointed but, I’m trying to overlook Nunos abysmal decision making on the day and accept that on other days we will have much better options available - Son, Romero, Bergwijn, GLC, maybe even a fit Ndombele if we get really lucky and the fatcunt starts meeting his sports science targets.
Problem is Nuno doesn’t have an instant chance to rectify it as we have Chelsea next, which we’d probably all have written off regardless of the Palace result. The NLD is his opportunity to make up for that shambles. Our last outing in that game under Jose was one of the worst disgraces in living memory, so Nuno had better deliver a performance and a result worthy of the fans passion or he can go the same way as his mentor.
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I think if we had beaten Palace Ace, we would have gone into the Chelsea game a lot more confident, especially with 4 wins on the bounce. That awful palace puts us back too square one for me. Completely cancels out our 1st 3 wins. It was that poor. Chelsea are twice the team we are and will pi^^ all over us. We won’t get another chance against a top side like we did against City. Spurs 0- 3 Chelsea. Lukaku will slaughter us.
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Yep, Lukaku will murder Sanchez, It’ll be like a throwback to when Heskey used to murder Judas.
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Does confidence even exist at spurs. Palace are no mugs and were very good at the weekend but christ we were top of the league ffs and have far better players.
posted on 13/9/21
So often you just know after a little nice run or a big result that what will follow will be a disaster
posted on 13/9/21
And this is my issue. I know everyone is waxing lyrical about Sanchez/ Dier, but I just don’t trust them as far as I can throw them. Fans are sitting there hoping Sanchez and Dier are fit. Have we become that pi*^ poor where we yearn the return of these 2 clowns ? I don’t give a f** if they kept 3 clean sheets. They are both a pair of clowns that will eventually get found out. Not one of them makes the 1st 11 in any of the other top teams. I just hope too god Romero ends up being the player we hope. If we have too endure Sanchez and Dier all season, we might as well give up the season now.
posted on 13/9/21
I know everyone is waxing lyrical about Sanchez/ Dier,
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Who is? They haven't been terrible this season is all
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comment by Bryãn's left boot (U22081)
posted 5 minutes ago
I know everyone is waxing lyrical about Sanchez/ Dier,
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Who is? They haven't been terrible this season is all
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They have had a couple of good games. That doesn’t excuse the heap of s** performances from them both the last few years. They will need to have at least half a good season and keep this form up until Xmas until I trust them both. My point is, we are all hoping Sanchez and Dier are fit. When have we become this bang average where our defensive hopes rely on Sanchez and bloody Dier. The fall from Grace is incredible
posted on 13/9/21
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bryãn's left boot (U22081)
posted 5 minutes ago
I know everyone is waxing lyrical about Sanchez/ Dier,
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Who is? They haven't been terrible this season is all
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They have had a couple of good games. That doesn’t excuse the heap of s** performances from them both the last few years. They will need to have at least half a good season and keep this form up until Xmas until I trust them both. My point is, we are all hoping Sanchez and Dier are fit. When have we become this bang average where our defensive hopes rely on Sanchez and bloody Dier. The fall from Grace is incredible
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You are forgetting out £45m Romero. Sure he needs some game time but ultimately we all know he is the future may be with Rodon, not Dier & Sanchez going forward.
posted on 13/9/21
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bryãn's left boot (U22081)
posted 5 minutes ago
I know everyone is waxing lyrical about Sanchez/ Dier,
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Who is? They haven't been terrible this season is all
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They have had a couple of good games. That doesn’t excuse the heap of s** performances from them both the last few years. They will need to have at least half a good season and keep this form up until Xmas until I trust them both. My point is, we are all hoping Sanchez and Dier are fit. When have we become this bang average where our defensive hopes rely on Sanchez and bloody Dier. The fall from Grace is incredible
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You are forgetting out £45m Romero. Sure he needs some game time but ultimately we all know he is the future may be with Rodon, not Dier & Sanchez going forward.
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Well that’s what I hope. Hence why I was saying I hope Romero is our answer in defence. Sanchez and Dier for me are not a long term defensive partnership. They are both far too unreliable and 100% will mess up at some point because it’s in their nature. I’m just not convinced at all with the clean sheets. If it weren’t for Traore’s awful finishing, that would have already been 1 f** up by Dier that caused a goal v Wolves. That’s what him and Sanchez are capable of. Don’t even get me started on that embarrassing moment for Sanchez v Gundogen last season
posted on 13/9/21
Romero Rodon
CB paring could be great for years. Both the same age.
Tanganga I still think could be good at CB unlike some believe.
I like and hate sanchez and dier for different reasons. Both had great opening 3 games. I really want sanchez to be good more than dier because his ceiling is so much higher, but he's more weak and less commanding. Dier albeit not great himself, is more comfortable on the ball as well.
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___________Hugo
__Japehet_Romero__Rodon
Royal__PEH_Ndombele__Reguilon
Lucas______Kane______Son
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This
Gotta be worth a go
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