Looked ok. Didn't thing he should have been subbed. Felt sorry for him after waiting for his start.
Based on his performances for us, yes.
I just don’t understand the signing in the first place. Did Ole approve of the signing, or was he simply not as good as we thought he was?
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
Looked ok. Didn't thing he should have been subbed. Felt sorry for him after waiting for his start.
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He was playing OK. I would not have took him off.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
Looked ok. Didn't thing he should have been subbed. Felt sorry for him after waiting for his start.
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He was playing OK. I would not have took him off.
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Yes I'm with that.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
Looked ok. Didn't thing he should have been subbed. Felt sorry for him after waiting for his start.
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He was playing OK. I would not have took him off.
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I'm mystified why we went with 3 CBs and conceded the midfield. I'd have kept it as 4221 and if we were going to make any kind of sub at HT bring on Lingard (for his energy on the flanks) for either VDB or Pogba.
There's a lot od things we could have done to help us keep the ball better but I think we went for the worst option tonight. Ole said it was to stop them from oit wide but they still got into good positions even with 5 at the back.
Just poor all round tonight. It does concern me that we have this kind of result in us still.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
if we were going to make any kind of sub at HT bring on Lingard .
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at least we wouldn't have then had to wait until the 95th minute to lose
Diafol
It is because we don’t play five at the back properly. We never have. Dalit and Shaw should be further forward than they are.
What we should have done is play two banks of four
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 4 minutes ago
Diafol
It is because we don’t play five at the back properly. We never have. Dalit and Shaw should be further forward than they are.
What we should have done is play two banks of four
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They were always going to get pushed back with us a man down. We should have stuck with the back 4.
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 4 minutes ago
Diafol
It is because we don’t play five at the back properly. We never have. Dalit and Shaw should be further forward than they are.
What we should have done is play two banks of four
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They were always going to get pushed back with us a man down. We should have stuck with the back 4.
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I know..
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 6 minutes ago
Diafol
It is because we don’t play five at the back properly. We never have. Dalit and Shaw should be further forward than they are.
What we should have done is play two banks of four
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Glad to hear it. And you still think Ole is the right man ?
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 16 minutes ago
Diafol
It is because we don’t play five at the back properly. We never have. Dalit and Shaw should be further forward than they are.
What we should have done is play two banks of four
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It was very strange. We were playing YBB not prime Barca. With keeping it like a 441 we surely wouldn't have been under as much pressure as we were? We just invited them on to us. Ok, I know the winner was an individual error but that may have been as a conseqiyod being unser the cosh so long.
The real shame about tonight is we have thrown away a chance to rest the entire first 11 in MD6 for the return at home to Young Boys. We will now need to get a result that night to qualify you'd like to think.
Can't blame Ole for the red but I didn't understand not starting Varane. Didn't get most of his subs on the night. It was just one to forget. Awful from nearly everyone.
Still think we will get through the group as winners.
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 5 minutes ago
The real shame about tonight is we have thrown away a chance to rest the entire first 11 in MD6 for the return at home to Young Boys. We will now need to get a result that night to qualify you'd like to think.
Can't blame Ole for the red but I didn't understand not starting Varane. Didn't get most of his subs on the night. It was just one to forget. Awful from nearly everyone.
Still think we will get through the group as winners.
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I'd take now having to win that game to guarantee going through.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 5 minutes ago
The real shame about tonight is we have thrown away a chance to rest the entire first 11 in MD6 for the return at home to Young Boys. We will now need to get a result that night to qualify you'd like to think.
Can't blame Ole for the red but I didn't understand not starting Varane. Didn't get most of his subs on the night. It was just one to forget. Awful from nearly everyone.
Still think we will get through the group as winners.
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I'd take now having to win that game to guarantee going through.
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The other game being a draw tonight was a good one for us.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 5 minutes ago
The real shame about tonight is we have thrown away a chance to rest the entire first 11 in MD6 for the return at home to Young Boys. We will now need to get a result that night to qualify you'd like to think.
Can't blame Ole for the red but I didn't understand not starting Varane. Didn't get most of his subs on the night. It was just one to forget. Awful from nearly everyone.
Still think we will get through the group as winners.
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I'd take now having to win that game to guarantee going through.
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The other game being a draw tonight was a good one for us.
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Certainly was.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 16 minutes ago
Diafol
It is because we don’t play five at the back properly. We never have. Dalit and Shaw should be further forward than they are.
What we should have done is play two banks of four
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It was very strange. We were playing YBB not prime Barca. With keeping it like a 441 we surely wouldn't have been under as much pressure as we were? We just invited them on to us. Ok, I know the winner was an individual error but that may have been as a conseqiyod being unser the cosh so long.
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On paper we have a great squad but technically we are are a good Europa league team as we have shown.
I have always believed that to survive and enhance the good qualities he has Ole needs to ditch Phelan and bring in a really good technically sound no.2 not just another ex United player for the sake of it .
I don’t think he has the ruthless side of SAF, well I know he doesn’t and unfortunately it will cost him as the whole of Europe is looking at him now, players like Lindelof will kill him, WB, Fred, Martial Jesse they all should be gone or we just make the same type of in game mistakes.
It’s time to start blaming Ole and not the players.
He’s clearly out of his depth tactically.
We’ll win a bunch of games and have some brilliant results but will more than likely fall short.
Given you all think your midfield is so shat why isn't he getting a sniff?
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 4 minutes ago
Diafol
It is because we don’t play five at the back properly. We never have. Dalit and Shaw should be further forward than they are.
What we should have done is play two banks of four
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They were always going to get pushed back with us a man down. We should have stuck with the back 4.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I know..
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It sounded like you expected them to push higher in this game despite being a man light.
52 You really gonna judge Donny's Unite career on tonight.
After AWB was red carded that was it for somebody.
Thought Donny was having a decent game.
I also think the switch to 3-5-1 was a poor move.
I'd have taken off Pogba or Bruno for a full back and kept the shape as 4-4-1, retaining Sancho's pace and natural acumen for the wide role rather than bringing Bruno across, realising that wasn't going to cut it and then changing it again at half time.
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 2 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 4 minutes ago
Diafol
It is because we don’t play five at the back properly. We never have. Dalit and Shaw should be further forward than they are.
What we should have done is play two banks of four
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They were always going to get pushed back with us a man down. We should have stuck with the back 4.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I know..
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It sounded like you expected them to push higher in this game despite being a man light.
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Yes. Fifteen yards higher. I wasn’t expecting them to push too far forwards.
comment by Cinciwolf----Wolves poster of the millennium (U11551)
posted 7 hours, 45 minutes ago
Given you all think your midfield is so shat why isn't he getting a sniff?
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Ole might have a different answer, but I’d say it’s because he doesn’t solve our midfield problems - or rather, he offers things we already get from Bruno. People want the likes of McTominay, Fred and Matic replacing, whereas you’d tend to start Donny, from what I can see, instead of Bruno or possibly Pogba.
Yeah this idea that VDB can replace Fred is based on nothing other than people hating Fred (who we do need to replace) and thinking the more VDB doesn’t play the better he gets.
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posted on 14/9/21
Looked ok. Didn't thing he should have been subbed. Felt sorry for him after waiting for his start.
posted on 14/9/21
Based on his performances for us, yes.
I just don’t understand the signing in the first place. Did Ole approve of the signing, or was he simply not as good as we thought he was?
posted on 14/9/21
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
Looked ok. Didn't thing he should have been subbed. Felt sorry for him after waiting for his start.
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He was playing OK. I would not have took him off.
posted on 14/9/21
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
Looked ok. Didn't thing he should have been subbed. Felt sorry for him after waiting for his start.
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He was playing OK. I would not have took him off.
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Yes I'm with that.
posted on 14/9/21
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
Looked ok. Didn't thing he should have been subbed. Felt sorry for him after waiting for his start.
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He was playing OK. I would not have took him off.
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I'm mystified why we went with 3 CBs and conceded the midfield. I'd have kept it as 4221 and if we were going to make any kind of sub at HT bring on Lingard (for his energy on the flanks) for either VDB or Pogba.
posted on 14/9/21
There's a lot od things we could have done to help us keep the ball better but I think we went for the worst option tonight. Ole said it was to stop them from oit wide but they still got into good positions even with 5 at the back.
Just poor all round tonight. It does concern me that we have this kind of result in us still.
posted on 14/9/21
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
if we were going to make any kind of sub at HT bring on Lingard .
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at least we wouldn't have then had to wait until the 95th minute to lose
posted on 14/9/21
Diafol
It is because we don’t play five at the back properly. We never have. Dalit and Shaw should be further forward than they are.
What we should have done is play two banks of four
posted on 14/9/21
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 4 minutes ago
Diafol
It is because we don’t play five at the back properly. We never have. Dalit and Shaw should be further forward than they are.
What we should have done is play two banks of four
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They were always going to get pushed back with us a man down. We should have stuck with the back 4.
posted on 14/9/21
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 4 minutes ago
Diafol
It is because we don’t play five at the back properly. We never have. Dalit and Shaw should be further forward than they are.
What we should have done is play two banks of four
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They were always going to get pushed back with us a man down. We should have stuck with the back 4.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I know..
posted on 14/9/21
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 6 minutes ago
Diafol
It is because we don’t play five at the back properly. We never have. Dalit and Shaw should be further forward than they are.
What we should have done is play two banks of four
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Glad to hear it. And you still think Ole is the right man ?
posted on 14/9/21
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 16 minutes ago
Diafol
It is because we don’t play five at the back properly. We never have. Dalit and Shaw should be further forward than they are.
What we should have done is play two banks of four
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It was very strange. We were playing YBB not prime Barca. With keeping it like a 441 we surely wouldn't have been under as much pressure as we were? We just invited them on to us. Ok, I know the winner was an individual error but that may have been as a conseqiyod being unser the cosh so long.
posted on 14/9/21
The real shame about tonight is we have thrown away a chance to rest the entire first 11 in MD6 for the return at home to Young Boys. We will now need to get a result that night to qualify you'd like to think.
Can't blame Ole for the red but I didn't understand not starting Varane. Didn't get most of his subs on the night. It was just one to forget. Awful from nearly everyone.
Still think we will get through the group as winners.
posted on 14/9/21
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 5 minutes ago
The real shame about tonight is we have thrown away a chance to rest the entire first 11 in MD6 for the return at home to Young Boys. We will now need to get a result that night to qualify you'd like to think.
Can't blame Ole for the red but I didn't understand not starting Varane. Didn't get most of his subs on the night. It was just one to forget. Awful from nearly everyone.
Still think we will get through the group as winners.
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I'd take now having to win that game to guarantee going through.
posted on 14/9/21
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 5 minutes ago
The real shame about tonight is we have thrown away a chance to rest the entire first 11 in MD6 for the return at home to Young Boys. We will now need to get a result that night to qualify you'd like to think.
Can't blame Ole for the red but I didn't understand not starting Varane. Didn't get most of his subs on the night. It was just one to forget. Awful from nearly everyone.
Still think we will get through the group as winners.
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I'd take now having to win that game to guarantee going through.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The other game being a draw tonight was a good one for us.
posted on 14/9/21
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 5 minutes ago
The real shame about tonight is we have thrown away a chance to rest the entire first 11 in MD6 for the return at home to Young Boys. We will now need to get a result that night to qualify you'd like to think.
Can't blame Ole for the red but I didn't understand not starting Varane. Didn't get most of his subs on the night. It was just one to forget. Awful from nearly everyone.
Still think we will get through the group as winners.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'd take now having to win that game to guarantee going through.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The other game being a draw tonight was a good one for us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Certainly was.
posted on 14/9/21
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 16 minutes ago
Diafol
It is because we don’t play five at the back properly. We never have. Dalit and Shaw should be further forward than they are.
What we should have done is play two banks of four
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It was very strange. We were playing YBB not prime Barca. With keeping it like a 441 we surely wouldn't have been under as much pressure as we were? We just invited them on to us. Ok, I know the winner was an individual error but that may have been as a conseqiyod being unser the cosh so long.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
On paper we have a great squad but technically we are are a good Europa league team as we have shown.
I have always believed that to survive and enhance the good qualities he has Ole needs to ditch Phelan and bring in a really good technically sound no.2 not just another ex United player for the sake of it .
I don’t think he has the ruthless side of SAF, well I know he doesn’t and unfortunately it will cost him as the whole of Europe is looking at him now, players like Lindelof will kill him, WB, Fred, Martial Jesse they all should be gone or we just make the same type of in game mistakes.
posted on 14/9/21
It’s time to start blaming Ole and not the players.
He’s clearly out of his depth tactically.
We’ll win a bunch of games and have some brilliant results but will more than likely fall short.
posted on 15/9/21
Given you all think your midfield is so shat why isn't he getting a sniff?
posted on 15/9/21
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 4 minutes ago
Diafol
It is because we don’t play five at the back properly. We never have. Dalit and Shaw should be further forward than they are.
What we should have done is play two banks of four
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They were always going to get pushed back with us a man down. We should have stuck with the back 4.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I know..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It sounded like you expected them to push higher in this game despite being a man light.
posted on 15/9/21
52 You really gonna judge Donny's Unite career on tonight.
After AWB was red carded that was it for somebody.
posted on 15/9/21
Thought Donny was having a decent game.
I also think the switch to 3-5-1 was a poor move.
I'd have taken off Pogba or Bruno for a full back and kept the shape as 4-4-1, retaining Sancho's pace and natural acumen for the wide role rather than bringing Bruno across, realising that wasn't going to cut it and then changing it again at half time.
posted on 15/9/21
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 2 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 4 minutes ago
Diafol
It is because we don’t play five at the back properly. We never have. Dalit and Shaw should be further forward than they are.
What we should have done is play two banks of four
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They were always going to get pushed back with us a man down. We should have stuck with the back 4.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I know..
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It sounded like you expected them to push higher in this game despite being a man light.
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Yes. Fifteen yards higher. I wasn’t expecting them to push too far forwards.
posted on 15/9/21
comment by Cinciwolf----Wolves poster of the millennium (U11551)
posted 7 hours, 45 minutes ago
Given you all think your midfield is so shat why isn't he getting a sniff?
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Ole might have a different answer, but I’d say it’s because he doesn’t solve our midfield problems - or rather, he offers things we already get from Bruno. People want the likes of McTominay, Fred and Matic replacing, whereas you’d tend to start Donny, from what I can see, instead of Bruno or possibly Pogba.
posted on 15/9/21
Yeah this idea that VDB can replace Fred is based on nothing other than people hating Fred (who we do need to replace) and thinking the more VDB doesn’t play the better he gets.
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