You may aswell have kept Jose
I'm sure it had something to do with Foncesa being utterly useless
This is not a Nuno bashing or an attempt to play up Fonseca. It's just to prove how the two biggest decision makers at the club (if you remove Lewis from the equation) are clearly pulling in different directions.
Our performances on the pitch are a symptom, not a cause. The real issue is at board level and the buck stops with Levy. He got Paratici in and they clearly have different ideas.
We can look forward to it ending up like the Levy/AVB/Baldini mess then eventually.
Fonseca was a risk.
New to the league, "attractive attacking football" is what Ossie gave us in the 90s, and we know that it is only one part of a successful team.
Nuno a safer pair of hands for sure, experience in the league and a decent record (he did as well with Wolves as Jose managed with Spurs).
I have cautious optimism over Nuno....it's hard to know how high his ceiling is but i suppose his remit over his contract is to push us to the top 4 and if he's a great success he might stay or we upgrade.
To be honest, I don't think you need Fonseca's quotes to realise Levy and Paratici were at odds with one another. You only had to look at the managerial search for that.
Both need to be pulling in the same direction for this to not end in disaster. What I don't get is how after having a clear idea of getting back to playing an attractive style again, we have arrived at a pragmatic thinking manager and seemingly a DOF who favours pragmatism also.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
To be honest, I don't think you need Fonseca's quotes to realise Levy and Paratici were at odds with one another. You only had to look at the managerial search for that.
Both need to be pulling in the same direction for this to not end in disaster. What I don't get is how after having a clear idea of getting back to playing an attractive style again, we have arrived at a pragmatic thinking manager and seemingly a DOF who favours pragmatism also.
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That's my overall issue. I'd like us to play attractive football but, more than that, I'd like some level of consistency in direction from those at the top. You just can't have an idea about expansive, offensive football and then hire a pragmatic DoF who naturally favours a pragmatic coach. It's that disconnect that's the issue. It was such an enormous segway. I just think Levy exhausted all options. He tried with Brendan, tried with Poch and got 'priced out' of ones that suited the style, like Potter. He then just said "oh, you do it" and handed the responsibility over to Paratici as he couldn't deal with it any longer. I have some sympathy with that but eventually the chickens come home to roost. Enough managers have been burned by Levy's inability to back them and then sack them that it's developing into a publicly renowned poisoned chalice. More often than not, it can kill a career.
I suspect Fonseca is talking schite.
https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1405538810121711629?s=19
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comment by Bãles left boõt (U22081)
posted 1 minute ago
I suspect Fonseca is talking schite.
https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1405538810121711629?s=19
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Not for me. THAT feels like it's the smoke and mirrors. The truth is what's come out now. Defo.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Bãles left boõt (U22081)
posted 1 minute ago
I suspect Fonseca is talking schite.
https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1405538810121711629?s=19
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Not for me. THAT feels like it's the smoke and mirrors. The truth is what's come out now. Defo.
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Ok fair enough. The tax thing does seem a bit flimsy.
But this is clearly Fonseca's opinion on what happened. Whether he's right or not, I don't believe for a second that anyone told him 'thanks but we're going for someone more defensive'. This is the standard out of work manager/ex player using the club to put himself in the headlines.
Meh, it’s not like we missed out on one of the worlds great coaches. That interview even highlighted Fonseca ‘s major flaw - he only has one way of playing and is wedded to it.
Pssd more money away than what it would have took to buy out Potters contract.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
To be honest, I don't think you need Fonseca's quotes to realise Levy and Paratici were at odds with one another. You only had to look at the managerial search for that.
Both need to be pulling in the same direction for this to not end in disaster. What I don't get is how after having a clear idea of getting back to playing an attractive style again, we have arrived at a pragmatic thinking manager and seemingly a DOF who favours pragmatism also.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's my overall issue. I'd like us to play attractive football but, more than that, I'd like some level of consistency in direction from those at the top. You just can't have an idea about expansive, offensive football and then hire a pragmatic DoF who naturally favours a pragmatic coach. It's that disconnect that's the issue. It was such an enormous segway. I just think Levy exhausted all options. He tried with Brendan, tried with Poch and got 'priced out' of ones that suited the style, like Potter. He then just said "oh, you do it" and handed the responsibility over to Paratici as he couldn't deal with it any longer. I have some sympathy with that but eventually the chickens come home to roost. Enough managers have been burned by Levy's inability to back them and then sack them that it's developing into a publicly renowned poisoned chalice. More often than not, it can kill a career.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's a lovely story you've made up there
IF it's true (big if), it doesn't bode well for the medium-term. Even if Spurs bring in an attack-minded manager in future, that's not much use if Paratici has built a squad for defensive football.
comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 37 minutes ago
IF it's true (big if), it doesn't bode well for the medium-term. Even if Spurs bring in an attack-minded manager in future, that's not much use if Paratici has built a squad for defensive football.
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We've just signed an attacking full back, not a defensive one. Signed a bright attacking winger with little defensive bones in his body. Signed and loaned back a DM with a few goals to his name showing he's not just a sit and tackle fella.
I'd say our DOF is building a squad capable of growing and competing, not just a defensive one.
As for Fonsecca, I was on board just for the entertainment value that we'd been lacking, but if he was so focused on attack that our defense was pisssh then what's the point.
Like the sensible ones, I'll hold jury on Nuno being able to make us appealing to watch, our squad wasn't there to be fixed in one window, but a purely attacking coach with our squad at the end of last season would have been a disaster!
https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/1441066453487128596?s=19
Just a picture Julian Nagelmann arriving at training on a skateboard today.
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comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 42 minutes ago
https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/1441066453487128596?s=19
Just a picture Julian Nagelmann arriving at training on a skateboard today.
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What a prik, ‘oooh look at me I’m so cool’, have some dignity mate you’re not Bart facking Simpson. You think Gammon Face would ever turn up on a skateboard? Even Pep has never pushed it further than wearing a crew neck jumper. Glad we didn’t get him as manager now.
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He does wear that pathetic oversized jumper/cardi thing though. And them fan-boys on MOTD cream themselves over him. Facking ponce.
What is it with these Man $ity managers- Remember OCD Mancini perma-wearing that light blue retro scarf in facking May
comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 5 hours, 43 minutes ago
Meh, it’s not like we missed out on one of the worlds great coaches. That interview even highlighted Fonseca ‘s major flaw - he only has one way of playing and is wedded to it.
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Like Pep, Klopp, Tuchel, etc
comment by LukaBrasi COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/1441066453487128596?s=19
Just a picture Julian Nagelmann arriving at training on a skateboard today.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He's asking for a brain injury riding that without a helmet. Tw@
Another view of Fonseca deal.....
https://cartilagefreecaptain.sbnation.com/2021/9/23/22689621/report-paulo-fonsecas-tottenham-appointment-scuttled-by-paratici-over-football-style
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 10 hours, 47 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 42 minutes ago
https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/1441066453487128596?s=19
Just a picture Julian Nagelmann arriving at training on a skateboard today.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
‘oooh look at me I’m so cool’, have some dignity mate
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No one, ever, has sounded more like David Brent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ESHXxInoAs
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posted on 23/9/21
You may aswell have kept Jose
posted on 23/9/21
I'm sure it had something to do with Foncesa being utterly useless
posted on 23/9/21
This is not a Nuno bashing or an attempt to play up Fonseca. It's just to prove how the two biggest decision makers at the club (if you remove Lewis from the equation) are clearly pulling in different directions.
Our performances on the pitch are a symptom, not a cause. The real issue is at board level and the buck stops with Levy. He got Paratici in and they clearly have different ideas.
posted on 23/9/21
We can look forward to it ending up like the Levy/AVB/Baldini mess then eventually.
posted on 23/9/21
Fonseca was a risk.
New to the league, "attractive attacking football" is what Ossie gave us in the 90s, and we know that it is only one part of a successful team.
Nuno a safer pair of hands for sure, experience in the league and a decent record (he did as well with Wolves as Jose managed with Spurs).
I have cautious optimism over Nuno....it's hard to know how high his ceiling is but i suppose his remit over his contract is to push us to the top 4 and if he's a great success he might stay or we upgrade.
posted on 23/9/21
To be honest, I don't think you need Fonseca's quotes to realise Levy and Paratici were at odds with one another. You only had to look at the managerial search for that.
Both need to be pulling in the same direction for this to not end in disaster. What I don't get is how after having a clear idea of getting back to playing an attractive style again, we have arrived at a pragmatic thinking manager and seemingly a DOF who favours pragmatism also.
posted on 23/9/21
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
To be honest, I don't think you need Fonseca's quotes to realise Levy and Paratici were at odds with one another. You only had to look at the managerial search for that.
Both need to be pulling in the same direction for this to not end in disaster. What I don't get is how after having a clear idea of getting back to playing an attractive style again, we have arrived at a pragmatic thinking manager and seemingly a DOF who favours pragmatism also.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's my overall issue. I'd like us to play attractive football but, more than that, I'd like some level of consistency in direction from those at the top. You just can't have an idea about expansive, offensive football and then hire a pragmatic DoF who naturally favours a pragmatic coach. It's that disconnect that's the issue. It was such an enormous segway. I just think Levy exhausted all options. He tried with Brendan, tried with Poch and got 'priced out' of ones that suited the style, like Potter. He then just said "oh, you do it" and handed the responsibility over to Paratici as he couldn't deal with it any longer. I have some sympathy with that but eventually the chickens come home to roost. Enough managers have been burned by Levy's inability to back them and then sack them that it's developing into a publicly renowned poisoned chalice. More often than not, it can kill a career.
posted on 23/9/21
I suspect Fonseca is talking schite.
https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1405538810121711629?s=19
posted on 23/9/21
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 23/9/21
comment by Bãles left boõt (U22081)
posted 1 minute ago
I suspect Fonseca is talking schite.
https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1405538810121711629?s=19
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Not for me. THAT feels like it's the smoke and mirrors. The truth is what's come out now. Defo.
posted on 23/9/21
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Bãles left boõt (U22081)
posted 1 minute ago
I suspect Fonseca is talking schite.
https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1405538810121711629?s=19
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not for me. THAT feels like it's the smoke and mirrors. The truth is what's come out now. Defo.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ok fair enough. The tax thing does seem a bit flimsy.
But this is clearly Fonseca's opinion on what happened. Whether he's right or not, I don't believe for a second that anyone told him 'thanks but we're going for someone more defensive'. This is the standard out of work manager/ex player using the club to put himself in the headlines.
posted on 23/9/21
Meh, it’s not like we missed out on one of the worlds great coaches. That interview even highlighted Fonseca ‘s major flaw - he only has one way of playing and is wedded to it.
posted on 23/9/21
Pssd more money away than what it would have took to buy out Potters contract.
posted on 23/9/21
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
To be honest, I don't think you need Fonseca's quotes to realise Levy and Paratici were at odds with one another. You only had to look at the managerial search for that.
Both need to be pulling in the same direction for this to not end in disaster. What I don't get is how after having a clear idea of getting back to playing an attractive style again, we have arrived at a pragmatic thinking manager and seemingly a DOF who favours pragmatism also.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's my overall issue. I'd like us to play attractive football but, more than that, I'd like some level of consistency in direction from those at the top. You just can't have an idea about expansive, offensive football and then hire a pragmatic DoF who naturally favours a pragmatic coach. It's that disconnect that's the issue. It was such an enormous segway. I just think Levy exhausted all options. He tried with Brendan, tried with Poch and got 'priced out' of ones that suited the style, like Potter. He then just said "oh, you do it" and handed the responsibility over to Paratici as he couldn't deal with it any longer. I have some sympathy with that but eventually the chickens come home to roost. Enough managers have been burned by Levy's inability to back them and then sack them that it's developing into a publicly renowned poisoned chalice. More often than not, it can kill a career.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's a lovely story you've made up there
posted on 23/9/21
IF it's true (big if), it doesn't bode well for the medium-term. Even if Spurs bring in an attack-minded manager in future, that's not much use if Paratici has built a squad for defensive football.
posted on 23/9/21
comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 37 minutes ago
IF it's true (big if), it doesn't bode well for the medium-term. Even if Spurs bring in an attack-minded manager in future, that's not much use if Paratici has built a squad for defensive football.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We've just signed an attacking full back, not a defensive one. Signed a bright attacking winger with little defensive bones in his body. Signed and loaned back a DM with a few goals to his name showing he's not just a sit and tackle fella.
I'd say our DOF is building a squad capable of growing and competing, not just a defensive one.
posted on 23/9/21
As for Fonsecca, I was on board just for the entertainment value that we'd been lacking, but if he was so focused on attack that our defense was pisssh then what's the point.
Like the sensible ones, I'll hold jury on Nuno being able to make us appealing to watch, our squad wasn't there to be fixed in one window, but a purely attacking coach with our squad at the end of last season would have been a disaster!
posted on 23/9/21
https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/1441066453487128596?s=19
Just a picture Julian Nagelmann arriving at training on a skateboard today.
posted on 23/9/21
What a twaat
posted on 23/9/21
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 23/9/21
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 42 minutes ago
https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/1441066453487128596?s=19
Just a picture Julian Nagelmann arriving at training on a skateboard today.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What a prik, ‘oooh look at me I’m so cool’, have some dignity mate you’re not Bart facking Simpson. You think Gammon Face would ever turn up on a skateboard? Even Pep has never pushed it further than wearing a crew neck jumper. Glad we didn’t get him as manager now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He does wear that pathetic oversized jumper/cardi thing though. And them fan-boys on MOTD cream themselves over him. Facking ponce.
What is it with these Man $ity managers- Remember OCD Mancini perma-wearing that light blue retro scarf in facking May
posted on 23/9/21
comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 5 hours, 43 minutes ago
Meh, it’s not like we missed out on one of the worlds great coaches. That interview even highlighted Fonseca ‘s major flaw - he only has one way of playing and is wedded to it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Like Pep, Klopp, Tuchel, etc
posted on 24/9/21
comment by LukaBrasi COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/1441066453487128596?s=19
Just a picture Julian Nagelmann arriving at training on a skateboard today.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He's asking for a brain injury riding that without a helmet. Tw@
posted on 24/9/21
Another view of Fonseca deal.....
https://cartilagefreecaptain.sbnation.com/2021/9/23/22689621/report-paulo-fonsecas-tottenham-appointment-scuttled-by-paratici-over-football-style
posted on 24/9/21
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 10 hours, 47 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 42 minutes ago
https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/1441066453487128596?s=19
Just a picture Julian Nagelmann arriving at training on a skateboard today.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
‘oooh look at me I’m so cool’, have some dignity mate
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No one, ever, has sounded more like David Brent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ESHXxInoAs
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