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Hidden Victories Within The Defeat?

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posted on 18/10/21

comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Anne Ziety (U22412)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - A Beekers Dozen (U2958)
posted 1 minute ago
btw .... The argument that "if we beat liverpool, we will only be 1 point behind that" needs to be caveated with "if we lose to liverpool, they will be 7 points ahead".
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They never play well at OT and the game last year was pointless as we couldn't finish higher than 2nd.
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Didn't Ole blame the fans for protesting?

Imagine backing a manager who criticises fans who protesting against owners who removed 2bn from your club.
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Both United and Liverpool fans were responsible.
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posted on 18/10/21

comment by Anne Ziety (U22412)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Anne Ziety (U22412)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Kroenke_out (U21076)
posted 2 minutes ago
Utd might beat Liverpool for the reasons you stated above, but it's also the reason why you won't win the league
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We have shown numerous times under Ole that we are capable of title winning form.
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You haven't shown yourself capable of winning the second rate trophy's let alone the big two.
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Again you could have just said the same about Klopp. Lost LC and then EL finals...
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Klopp already shown he can win big titles and the Liverpool squad had a clear mentality and will to win.

You on the other hand have a captain who posts his passing stats after losing at home to Sheffield United and a talisman that brags about scoring a penalty in your joint biggest home loss ever.

That's the type of mentality you've allowed Cardiff City's worst ever manager to instill into your club.
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Klopp lost a UCL final years into his tenure, how do you explain that?

And also just who the F does Klopp think he is going public and demanding all players are vaccinated?? Don't get me wrong I am double jabbed myself, but Rashford gets all type of abuse for venturing into politics, yet Klopp appoints himself as the health secretary and nothing is said?

I wonder if he continually refuses to play that Minamino or even other Liverpool players because they aren't jabbed. Either way Klopp needs to keep his gob shut.

posted on 18/10/21

comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - A Beekers Dozen (U2958)
posted 1 minute ago
btw .... The argument that "if we beat liverpool, we will only be 1 point behind that" needs to be caveated with "if we lose to liverpool, they will be 7 points ahead".
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They never play well at OT and the game last year was pointless as we couldn't finish higher than 2nd.
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None of which changes what he said.

We haven't actually beaten Liverpool in the league under Solskjaer home or away, have we?
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We have beaten them at home under Ole yes
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That wasn't the question.

posted on 18/10/21

comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Anne Ziety (U22412)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Anne Ziety (U22412)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Kroenke_out (U21076)
posted 2 minutes ago
Utd might beat Liverpool for the reasons you stated above, but it's also the reason why you won't win the league
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We have shown numerous times under Ole that we are capable of title winning form.
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You haven't shown yourself capable of winning the second rate trophy's let alone the big two.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Again you could have just said the same about Klopp. Lost LC and then EL finals...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Klopp already shown he can win big titles and the Liverpool squad had a clear mentality and will to win.

You on the other hand have a captain who posts his passing stats after losing at home to Sheffield United and a talisman that brags about scoring a penalty in your joint biggest home loss ever.

That's the type of mentality you've allowed Cardiff City's worst ever manager to instill into your club.
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Klopp lost a UCL final years into his tenure, how do you explain that?
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Ole can't even get past the group stage.

posted on 18/10/21

comment by Dr Tobias Fünke (U1217)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - A Beekers Dozen (U2958)
posted 1 minute ago
btw .... The argument that "if we beat liverpool, we will only be 1 point behind that" needs to be caveated with "if we lose to liverpool, they will be 7 points ahead".
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They never play well at OT and the game last year was pointless as we couldn't finish higher than 2nd.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

None of which changes what he said.

We haven't actually beaten Liverpool in the league under Solskjaer home or away, have we?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We have beaten them at home under Ole yes
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That wasn't the question.
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Well both teams played their full strength XI in a huge, competitive game and Ole spanked Klopp. May as well have been a league game...

posted on 18/10/21

comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke (U1217)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - A Beekers Dozen (U2958)
posted 1 minute ago
btw .... The argument that "if we beat liverpool, we will only be 1 point behind that" needs to be caveated with "if we lose to liverpool, they will be 7 points ahead".
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They never play well at OT and the game last year was pointless as we couldn't finish higher than 2nd.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

None of which changes what he said.

We haven't actually beaten Liverpool in the league under Solskjaer home or away, have we?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We have beaten them at home under Ole yes
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That wasn't the question.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well both teams played their full strength XI in a huge, competitive game and Ole spanked Klopp. May as well have been a league game...
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It does amuse me how you keep referring to it as a spanking.

posted on 18/10/21

comment by Anne Ziety (U22412)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Anne Ziety (U22412)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Anne Ziety (U22412)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Kroenke_out (U21076)
posted 2 minutes ago
Utd might beat Liverpool for the reasons you stated above, but it's also the reason why you won't win the league
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We have shown numerous times under Ole that we are capable of title winning form.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You haven't shown yourself capable of winning the second rate trophy's let alone the big two.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Again you could have just said the same about Klopp. Lost LC and then EL finals...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Klopp already shown he can win big titles and the Liverpool squad had a clear mentality and will to win.

You on the other hand have a captain who posts his passing stats after losing at home to Sheffield United and a talisman that brags about scoring a penalty in your joint biggest home loss ever.

That's the type of mentality you've allowed Cardiff City's worst ever manager to instill into your club.
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Klopp lost a UCL final years into his tenure, how do you explain that?
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Ole can't even get past the group stage.
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That is in the past. We will do it this year.

posted on 18/10/21

comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke (U1217)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - A Beekers Dozen (U2958)
posted 1 minute ago
btw .... The argument that "if we beat liverpool, we will only be 1 point behind that" needs to be caveated with "if we lose to liverpool, they will be 7 points ahead".
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They never play well at OT and the game last year was pointless as we couldn't finish higher than 2nd.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

None of which changes what he said.

We haven't actually beaten Liverpool in the league under Solskjaer home or away, have we?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We have beaten them at home under Ole yes
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That wasn't the question.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well both teams played their full strength XI in a huge, competitive game and Ole spanked Klopp. May as well have been a league game...
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But it wasn't a league game... where it matters and where you think you can still win the league, you have to win those games in the league, which you haven't done.

posted on 18/10/21

comment by Dr Tobias Fünke (U1217)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke (U1217)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - A Beekers Dozen (U2958)
posted 1 minute ago
btw .... The argument that "if we beat liverpool, we will only be 1 point behind that" needs to be caveated with "if we lose to liverpool, they will be 7 points ahead".
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They never play well at OT and the game last year was pointless as we couldn't finish higher than 2nd.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

None of which changes what he said.

We haven't actually beaten Liverpool in the league under Solskjaer home or away, have we?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We have beaten them at home under Ole yes
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That wasn't the question.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well both teams played their full strength XI in a huge, competitive game and Ole spanked Klopp. May as well have been a league game...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It does amuse me how you keep referring to it as a spanking.
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You conceded 3 goals and we hit the woodwork too. Could've been 4 or 5.

Tbh it was similar at Anfield but Alisson made two absolute wonder saves to deny us. Typical.

posted on 18/10/21

Ole's lucky that there isn't an obvious replacement. He looks clueless much like Moyes did when he took over from Fergie.

posted on 18/10/21

comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke (U1217)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - A Beekers Dozen (U2958)
posted 1 minute ago
btw .... The argument that "if we beat liverpool, we will only be 1 point behind that" needs to be caveated with "if we lose to liverpool, they will be 7 points ahead".
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They never play well at OT and the game last year was pointless as we couldn't finish higher than 2nd.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

None of which changes what he said.

We haven't actually beaten Liverpool in the league under Solskjaer home or away, have we?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We have beaten them at home under Ole yes
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That wasn't the question.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well both teams played their full strength XI in a huge, competitive game and Ole spanked Klopp. May as well have been a league game...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But it wasn't a league game... where it matters and where you think you can still win the league, you have to win those games in the league, which you haven't done.
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Well when Liverpool beat Spurs the other year in Spain, it wasn't a league game so therefore was irrelevant.

posted on 18/10/21

Problem is that while most teams do rely on moments of individual brilliance to win games, Man utd are solely dependant on it, which is why they might get the odd win against a Liverpool or City, and beat relegation fodder, but will drop too many points to make a realistic title challenge.

posted on 18/10/21

comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke (U1217)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke (U1217)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - A Beekers Dozen (U2958)
posted 1 minute ago
btw .... The argument that "if we beat liverpool, we will only be 1 point behind that" needs to be caveated with "if we lose to liverpool, they will be 7 points ahead".
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They never play well at OT and the game last year was pointless as we couldn't finish higher than 2nd.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

None of which changes what he said.

We haven't actually beaten Liverpool in the league under Solskjaer home or away, have we?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We have beaten them at home under Ole yes
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That wasn't the question.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well both teams played their full strength XI in a huge, competitive game and Ole spanked Klopp. May as well have been a league game...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It does amuse me how you keep referring to it as a spanking.
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You conceded 3 goals and we hit the woodwork too. Could've been 4 or 5.

Tbh it was similar at Anfield but Alisson made two absolute wonder saves to deny us. Typical.
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And you conceded two goals. It was a pretty even game in which you scored one more goal than us.

posted on 18/10/21

https://twitter.com/MikeLUHG_18_0/status/1450015725964378130?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

posted on 18/10/21

comment by Kroenke_out (U21076)
posted 1 minute ago
Problem is that while most teams do rely on moments of individual brilliance to win games, Man utd are solely dependant on it, which is why they might get the odd win against a Liverpool or City, and beat relegation fodder, but will drop too many points to make a realistic title challenge.
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This

posted on 18/10/21

comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 1 minute ago
Ole's lucky that there isn't an obvious replacement. He looks clueless much like Moyes did when he took over from Fergie.
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Way you're heading even Culer as interim would be an upgrade.

posted on 18/10/21

hidden victories. How many points do you get for that?. I thought Arteta was but Ole is more clueless

posted on 18/10/21

Our hero's response.

posted on 18/10/21

comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke (U1217)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - A Beekers Dozen (U2958)
posted 1 minute ago
btw .... The argument that "if we beat liverpool, we will only be 1 point behind that" needs to be caveated with "if we lose to liverpool, they will be 7 points ahead".
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They never play well at OT and the game last year was pointless as we couldn't finish higher than 2nd.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

None of which changes what he said.

We haven't actually beaten Liverpool in the league under Solskjaer home or away, have we?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We have beaten them at home under Ole yes
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That wasn't the question.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well both teams played their full strength XI in a huge, competitive game and Ole spanked Klopp. May as well have been a league game...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But it wasn't a league game... where it matters and where you think you can still win the league, you have to win those games in the league, which you haven't done.
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Well when Liverpool beat Spurs the other year in Spain, it wasn't a league game so therefore was irrelevant.
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Yes it was irrelevant to the Premier League as it had no baring on it...

Here we go again though, another article that's focused on Liverpool yet again and not United.

posted on 18/10/21

comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke (U1217)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - A Beekers Dozen (U2958)
posted 1 minute ago
btw .... The argument that "if we beat liverpool, we will only be 1 point behind that" needs to be caveated with "if we lose to liverpool, they will be 7 points ahead".
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They never play well at OT and the game last year was pointless as we couldn't finish higher than 2nd.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

None of which changes what he said.

We haven't actually beaten Liverpool in the league under Solskjaer home or away, have we?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We have beaten them at home under Ole yes
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That wasn't the question.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well both teams played their full strength XI in a huge, competitive game and Ole spanked Klopp. May as well have been a league game...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But it wasn't a league game... where it matters and where you think you can still win the league, you have to win those games in the league, which you haven't done.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well when Liverpool beat Spurs the other year in Spain, it wasn't a league game so therefore was irrelevant.
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Yes it was irrelevant to the Premier League as it had no baring on it...

Here we go again though, another article that's focused on Liverpool yet again and not United.
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He keeps smearing the names of people genuinely world class in their field like Klopp, Ronaldo and even Ferguson to protect Cardiff City's worst ever manager.

It's so odd.

posted on 18/10/21

comment by Kroenke_out (U21076)
posted 1 minute ago
Problem is that while most teams do rely on moments of individual brilliance to win games, Man utd are solely dependant on it, which is why they might get the odd win against a Liverpool or City, and beat relegation fodder, but will drop too many points to make a realistic title challenge.
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This is the biggest load of rubbish I have ever seen. Any goal that is scored by an individual player is surely an individual moment?? Why is it that when it's United it suddenly becomes seen as a negative thing.

It's like saying Liverpool are a rubbish team but Salah with his individual moments always bails them out. Or Arsenal were totally average from 2000-2006 but more often than not Henry, with his individual moments of brilliance, bailed them out.

It's anti-United media poison.

posted on 18/10/21

comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Kroenke_out (U21076)
posted 1 minute ago
Problem is that while most teams do rely on moments of individual brilliance to win games, Man utd are solely dependant on it, which is why they might get the odd win against a Liverpool or City, and beat relegation fodder, but will drop too many points to make a realistic title challenge.
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This is the biggest load of rubbish I have ever seen. Any goal that is scored by an individual player is surely an individual moment?? Why is it that when it's United it suddenly becomes seen as a negative thing.

It's like saying Liverpool are a rubbish team but Salah with his individual moments always bails them out. Or Arsenal were totally average from 2000-2006 but more often than not Henry, with his individual moments of brilliance, bailed them out.

It's anti-United media poison.
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So that's prime Wenger added to the list of world class managers/players you smear to protect Cardiff City's worst ever manager.

posted on 18/10/21

comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Kroenke_out (U21076)
posted 1 minute ago
Problem is that while most teams do rely on moments of individual brilliance to win games, Man utd are solely dependant on it, which is why they might get the odd win against a Liverpool or City, and beat relegation fodder, but will drop too many points to make a realistic title challenge.
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This is the biggest load of rubbish I have ever seen. Any goal that is scored by an individual player is surely an individual moment?? Why is it that when it's United it suddenly becomes seen as a negative thing.

It's like saying Liverpool are a rubbish team but Salah with his individual moments always bails them out. Or Arsenal were totally average from 2000-2006 but more often than not Henry, with his individual moments of brilliance, bailed them out.

It's anti-United media poison.
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Nah, we actually play excellent football as a team. That's the difference.

posted on 18/10/21

comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 4 minutes ago
Our hero's response.
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Rashford is our hero.

posted on 18/10/21

comment by Anne Ziety (U22412)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Kroenke_out (U21076)
posted 1 minute ago
Problem is that while most teams do rely on moments of individual brilliance to win games, Man utd are solely dependant on it, which is why they might get the odd win against a Liverpool or City, and beat relegation fodder, but will drop too many points to make a realistic title challenge.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is the biggest load of rubbish I have ever seen. Any goal that is scored by an individual player is surely an individual moment?? Why is it that when it's United it suddenly becomes seen as a negative thing.

It's like saying Liverpool are a rubbish team but Salah with his individual moments always bails them out. Or Arsenal were totally average from<tcxspan tcxhref="20002006" title="Call 2000-2006 via 3CX">2000-2006</tcxspan>but more often than not Henry, with his individual moments of brilliance, bailed them out.

It's anti-United media poison.
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So that's prime Wenger added to the list of world class managers/players you smear to protect Cardiff City's worst ever manager.
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Well why not because Henry was their best player, who time and time again would bail them out with individual brilliance yet Ole is beaten over the head with it.

Salah's individual brilliance, not Liverpool as a team, is the reason they're still unbeaten this season. It's nothing to do with Klopp or any of the other players, just Salah and his individual quality. Klopp is a con artist who relies solely on Salah to save his job.

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