comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 2 minutes ago
It's not really whataboutery when you brought up not being able to feel empathy for anyone is a sign of a sociopath, yet have shown in the past you clearly don't care about poor people not being able to feed their kids.
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People being inconvenienced is obviously worse than people starving.
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comment by Robbb Marsh (U22716)
posted 5 minutes ago
Anyone with ‘Ben Shapiro’ fanboy in their username sacrifices the right to talk about serious subjects.
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I didn't know who Ben Shapiro is so I looked him up.
I wish I could go back to not knowing who Ben Shapiro is.
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https://youtu.be/0-w-pdqwiBw
My favourite Ben momentwhat a brilliant mind
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comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 5 minutes ago
I'm amazed there are several people on here who are gen saying they wouldn't be annoyed at having to sit in a 5 hour traffic jam because of some silly protestors.
Absolutely fvcking that would be the case in reality
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I'm always annoyed when protesters disrupt my day or travel. In my life I've been inconvenienced by many protests. I get annoyed but I don't go about my life crying about those protesters.
There was this one time I was in Windhoek and there was a protest by women over women's rights. They blocked the road and I missed the seminar Iwas going to. Was I annoyed? Yes, but that doesn't mean I'd celebrate if they started throwing the women in prison.
Why? Because I have a brain.
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There's also a clear difference between not supporting their actions and "celebrating them been thrown in prison" as you put it. Everyone agrees with the message they are trying to get across but there is a time and a place that doesn't cause more bad than good.
Pawl's point is definitely a valid one that if you were suffering at the hands of the protests, you'd likely feel different in how much you support them. In fact, I'd be certain of it, particularly if you had somewhere urgently important to be.
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Hands up who has actually been disrupted by insulate Britain protests on here?
Bet Pawl, Ttliv etc haven’t
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I haven't but members of my family have however it doesn't matter whether I've experienced it first hand or not as I'm able to empathise with those who have.
One of the major traits of a psychopath is the inability to feel empathy so I would suggest that if you can't imagine what being stuck for 5 hours in a preventable traffic jam with a sick child is like then get yourself checked out.
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Impressive, you can empathise woth people stuck in traffic yet have defended this government to the hilt on things like cuts to benefits and free school meals being cut. Didn’t see much empathy from you on both subjects Travis Bickle
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So much whataboutery on this thread.
This is about the law being applied to those who will keep offending otherwise.
There are those on here who think that if its in the name of climate change then anything goes and fack whoever it inconveniences, I don't agree.
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Explain why you can emphasise with kids stuck in traffic but not kids who aren’t being fed?
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 2 minutes ago
It's not really whataboutery when you brought up not being able to feel empathy for anyone is a sign of a sociopath, yet have shown in the past you clearly don't care about poor people not being able to feed their kids.
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My comments were on topic and refer to the motorists who are stuck in the jams.
Saying that I don't care about starving kids is not on topic and a bit strange. I shall be picking up my 9 year old lad from school soon, last time I looked he seemed well fed.
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 2 minutes ago
It's not really whataboutery when you brought up not being able to feel empathy for anyone is a sign of a sociopath, yet have shown in the past you clearly don't care about poor people not being able to feed their kids.
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My comments were on topic and refer to the motorists who are stuck in the jams.
Saying that I don't care about starving kids is not on topic and a bit strange. I shall be picking up my 9 year old lad from school soon, last time I looked he seemed well fed.
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Think you need to read Welsh’s comment again
It’s on topic when you are trying lecture people on empathy when you clearly haven’t got any.
comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted 4 hours, 32 minutes ago
putting people in prison for protesting
dangerous precedent to set
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so is standing in the fackin road being a danger to everyone, these caants want birching
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
comment by plain old dunc (U11713)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by Wetherby White (U6810)
posted 44 minutes ago
One of their ring leaders who was jailed, went on a 80k trip in her 4x4, before joining the protests.
Sorry, but I have zero empathy for any of these hypocrite fooks, same as I can't listen to Jeff Bezos lecturing us at COP26 about climate change.
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Yes, im sure she traveled the equivalent of greenland to australia 8 times in a 4x4 before joining a protest... i mean who wouldnt drive for about 1150 days non stop without sleep before going to a protest
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Must have been a Lada if it took her over 3 years to go 80 kilometres.
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80k is 80,000
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comment by plain old dunc (U11713)
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comment by son of quebec (U8127)
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comment by plain old dunc (U11713)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by Wetherby White (U6810)
posted 44 minutes ago
One of their ring leaders who was jailed, went on a 80k trip in her 4x4, before joining the protests.
Sorry, but I have zero empathy for any of these hypocrite fooks, same as I can't listen to Jeff Bezos lecturing us at COP26 about climate change.
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Yes, im sure she traveled the equivalent of greenland to australia 8 times in a 4x4 before joining a protest... i mean who wouldnt drive for about 1150 days non stop without sleep before going to a protest
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Must have been a Lada if it took her over 3 years to go 80 kilometres.
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80k is 80,000
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Oh. Thanks for that. Kilometres or miles?
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 16 minutes ago
It’s on topic when you are trying lecture people on empathy when you clearly haven’t got any.
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Odd comment.
The majority of my remarks on this subject have been about my sympathy for the motorists, lorry/ambulance drivers.
The fact that you don't care about them and side with the law breakers shows a lack of empathy.
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 16 minutes ago
It’s on topic when you are trying lecture people on empathy when you clearly haven’t got any.
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Odd comment.
The majority of my remarks on this subject have been about my sympathy for the motorists, lorry/ambulance drivers.
The fact that you don't care about them and side with the law breakers shows a lack of empathy.
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If you’re that bothered about ambulance drivers let’s see past comments from you criticising this government for getting us in the situation where ambulances are taking hours to get to patients and A&E’s are making them wait outside, leading to some patients dying before they get through the door.
No didn’t think so
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posted 12 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
comment by plain old dunc (U11713)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by Wetherby White (U6810)
posted 44 minutes ago
One of their ring leaders who was jailed, went on a 80k trip in her 4x4, before joining the protests.
Sorry, but I have zero empathy for any of these hypocrite fooks, same as I can't listen to Jeff Bezos lecturing us at COP26 about climate change.
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Yes, im sure she traveled the equivalent of greenland to australia 8 times in a 4x4 before joining a protest... i mean who wouldnt drive for about 1150 days non stop without sleep before going to a protest
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Must have been a Lada if it took her over 3 years to go 80 kilometres.
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80k is 80,000
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According to her husband the trip was about ten years ago, and it was completed to highlight that a house containing a family of four releases more carbon emissions than a 4x4 travelling tens of thousands of miles.
Whether there's any truth in that remains to be seen but its another example of 'playing the man' rather than focusing/discussing the damage, (much of which is pretty much irreversible) MMCC is causing to the planet.
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 4 hours, 37 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 10 seconds ago
I'll wager that those who sympathise with the protesters would feel very differently if they were stuck in an unnecessary traffic jam for hours preventing them from taking the kids to school, earning a living or getting somebody to hospital.
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Nope.
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Your kid or a close relative is fighting for their life in the back of an ambulance and you say 🤷♀️ it’s all for a good cause? Me smells BS
I actually agree with their cause, I don’t agree with their actions. I don’t eat meat and I love animals, but I despise militant vegans. Raiding restaurants does more good than bad.
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 16 minutes ago
It’s on topic when you are trying lecture people on empathy when you clearly haven’t got any.
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Odd comment.
The majority of my remarks on this subject have been about my sympathy for the motorists, lorry/ambulance drivers.
The fact that you don't care about them and side with the law breakers shows a lack of empathy.
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comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 16 minutes ago
It’s on topic when you are trying lecture people on empathy when you clearly haven’t got any.
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Odd comment.
The majority of my remarks on this subject have been about my sympathy for the motorists, lorry/ambulance drivers.
The fact that you don't care about them and side with the law breakers shows a lack of empathy.
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If you’re that bothered about ambulance drivers let’s see past comments from you criticising this government for getting us in the situation where ambulances are taking hours to get to patients and A&E’s are making them wait outside, leading to some patients dying before they get through the door.
No didn’t think so
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You are addicted to whataboutery.
Whats the point of the OP raising this issue and folk commenting on it if their views or lack of them on other issues just keep getting dragged up.
You can't justify what these rsoles do but you are scared of being seen to agree with the government so its all about discrediting those call them out for the selfish attention seekers that they are.
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 16 minutes ago
It’s on topic when you are trying lecture people on empathy when you clearly haven’t got any.
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Odd comment.
The majority of my remarks on this subject have been about my sympathy for the motorists, lorry/ambulance drivers.
The fact that you don't care about them and side with the law breakers shows a lack of empathy.
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If you’re that bothered about ambulance drivers let’s see past comments from you criticising this government for getting us in the situation where ambulances are taking hours to get to patients and A&E’s are making them wait outside, leading to some patients dying before they get through the door.
No didn’t think so
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You are addicted to whataboutery.
Whats the point of the OP raising this issue and folk commenting on it if their views or lack of them on other issues just keep getting dragged up.
You can't justify what these rsoles do but you are scared of being seen to agree with the government so its all about discrediting those call them out for the selfish attention seekers that they are.
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Again not whataboutery, you brought up ambulance drivers being delayed . Again weird take on empathy. Bothered about ambulance drivers potentially being held up by protesters but not about actual real life cases of ambulances being held up and people dying outside A&E.
Wonder why?
Looking at the wider picture, studies have found there are currently around 5 million deaths per year linked to climate change. Which Insulate Britain would probably argue pales into comparison with the disruption they have been causing.
“More than 5 million people die each year globally because of excessively hot or cold conditions, a 20-year study has found – and heat-related deaths are on the rise.”
"The study involving dozens of scientists around the world found that 9.4% of global deaths each year are attributable to heat or cold exposure, equivalent to 74 extra deaths per 100,000 people.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/08/extreme-temperatures-kill-5-million-people-a-year-with-heat-related-deaths-rising-study-finds
Even if those figures are only half right, some of the predictions, (such as the below from the WHO) should be sobering reading for all.
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/climate-change-and-health
And whilst Insulate Britain may be going about things the wrong way, climate change extremism is only going to exacerbate over the years to come unless more is done. Coupled with more and more climate refugees/migrants, (climate displacement) it’s not beyond the realms of possibility some could resort to significantly more callous/extreme methods.
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posted 2 hours, 33 minutes ago
There’s only about 100 cars in Windhoek anyway, just park up and walk
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What a caaaant.
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posted 3 hours, 5 minutes ago
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comment by Neo (U9135)
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comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 21 minutes ago
I'll wager that those who sympathise with the protesters would feel very differently if they were stuck in an unnecessary traffic jam for hours preventing them from taking the kids to school, earning a living or getting somebody to hospital.
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Atleast insulate Britain turn up when they block off roads. The true caaants are road workmen who block roads then fack off into thin air
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I swear 95% of the time I drive past works on the motorway you don't see a single worker anywhere.
I understand a lot of them supposedly work during the night because its safer but as it happens I often tend to be on the roads in the early hours because of my workline, and I rarely see them then either.
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Exactly. Makes you wonder what the fack they are actually doing them when it’s a rarity to see a worker at any road site. It’s genuinely a rarity that you see one, and I honestly don’t ever think I’ve seen one doing anything at any time of day or night if I have somehow actually managed to glimpse one of the mythical basssstards.
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Yet somehow roads are built and repaired. Amazing.
Elves I guess.
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comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 2 hours, 22 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - I got 5 on it. (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
How were they left with no choice? I've stated above, social media is huge, they would have probably gained more evidence-based support by starting and sharing a campaign through different social media platforms and having a petition to go to the relevant authorities with, rather than sit in a road with a few banners hacking people off.
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More rubbish.
There's already a billion petitions and sheet mate. Don't seem to have any effect.
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How do you know they have no effect? Because it doesn't do an automatic U-turn overnight it means nothing significant has happened?
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I don't. I said they don't seem to work. There's a difference.
Clearly they're not fit for purpose though because if they were then we would be seeing real action and sacrifices to tackle climate change.
The petitions are working so well that people can't handle a traffic jam.
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - I got 5 on it. (U1282)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 5 minutes ago
I'm amazed there are several people on here who are gen saying they wouldn't be annoyed at having to sit in a 5 hour traffic jam because of some silly protestors.
Absolutely fvcking that would be the case in reality
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I'm always annoyed when protesters disrupt my day or travel. In my life I've been inconvenienced by many protests. I get annoyed but I don't go about my life crying about those protesters.
There was this one time I was in Windhoek and there was a protest by women over women's rights. They blocked the road and I missed the seminar Iwas going to. Was I annoyed? Yes, but that doesn't mean I'd celebrate if they started throwing the women in prison.
Why? Because I have a brain.
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There's also a clear difference between not supporting their actions and "celebrating them been thrown in prison" as you put it. Everyone agrees with the message they are trying to get across but there is a time and a place that doesn't cause more bad than good.
Pawl's point is definitely a valid one that if you were suffering at the hands of the protests, you'd likely feel different in how much you support them. In fact, I'd be certain of it, particularly if you had somewhere urgently important to be.
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Eh?
Protesting women might be an inconvenience but it wouldn't make me less of a believer in women's rights. Not one iota.
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 16 minutes ago
It’s on topic when you are trying lecture people on empathy when you clearly haven’t got any.
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Odd comment.
The majority of my remarks on this subject have been about my sympathy for the motorists, lorry/ambulance drivers.
The fact that you don't care about them and side with the law breakers shows a lack of empathy.
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comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? What age is middle aged? (U3126)
posted 41 minutes ago
Looking at the wider picture, studies have found there are currently around 5 million deaths per year linked to climate change. Which Insulate Britain would probably argue pales into comparison with the disruption they have been causing.
“More than 5 million people die each year globally because of excessively hot or cold conditions, a 20-year study has found – and heat-related deaths are on the rise.”
"The study involving dozens of scientists around the world found that 9.4% of global deaths each year are attributable to heat or cold exposure, equivalent to 74 extra deaths per 100,000 people.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/08/extreme-temperatures-kill-5-million-people-a-year-with-heat-related-deaths-rising-study-finds
Even if those figures are only half right, some of the predictions, (such as the below from the WHO) should be sobering reading for all.
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/climate-change-and-health
And whilst Insulate Britain may be going about things the wrong way, climate change extremism is only going to exacerbate over the years to come unless more is done. Coupled with more and more climate refugees/migrants, (climate displacement) it’s not beyond the realms of possibility some could resort to significantly more callous/extreme methods.
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The UK isn’t responsible for ‘global warming’ it happens and has been happening since the start of time, naturally all over the world. Excess Co2 pollution and plastic waste etc, which we will fill the land and sea with is our own problem to deal with today, but the uk contributing 1% towards all Co2 waste, doesn’t justify these fackers making everyone’s lives a misery and putting themselves and everyone else in danger.
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posted on 18/11/21
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 2 minutes ago
It's not really whataboutery when you brought up not being able to feel empathy for anyone is a sign of a sociopath, yet have shown in the past you clearly don't care about poor people not being able to feed their kids.
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People being inconvenienced is obviously worse than people starving.
posted on 18/11/21
protesting banned
posted on 18/11/21
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Robbb Marsh (U22716)
posted 5 minutes ago
Anyone with ‘Ben Shapiro’ fanboy in their username sacrifices the right to talk about serious subjects.
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I didn't know who Ben Shapiro is so I looked him up.
I wish I could go back to not knowing who Ben Shapiro is.
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https://youtu.be/0-w-pdqwiBw
My favourite Ben momentwhat a brilliant mind
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posted on 18/11/21
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - I got 5 on it. (U1282)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 5 minutes ago
I'm amazed there are several people on here who are gen saying they wouldn't be annoyed at having to sit in a 5 hour traffic jam because of some silly protestors.
Absolutely fvcking that would be the case in reality
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I'm always annoyed when protesters disrupt my day or travel. In my life I've been inconvenienced by many protests. I get annoyed but I don't go about my life crying about those protesters.
There was this one time I was in Windhoek and there was a protest by women over women's rights. They blocked the road and I missed the seminar Iwas going to. Was I annoyed? Yes, but that doesn't mean I'd celebrate if they started throwing the women in prison.
Why? Because I have a brain.
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There's also a clear difference between not supporting their actions and "celebrating them been thrown in prison" as you put it. Everyone agrees with the message they are trying to get across but there is a time and a place that doesn't cause more bad than good.
Pawl's point is definitely a valid one that if you were suffering at the hands of the protests, you'd likely feel different in how much you support them. In fact, I'd be certain of it, particularly if you had somewhere urgently important to be.
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Hands up who has actually been disrupted by insulate Britain protests on here?
Bet Pawl, Ttliv etc haven’t
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I haven't but members of my family have however it doesn't matter whether I've experienced it first hand or not as I'm able to empathise with those who have.
One of the major traits of a psychopath is the inability to feel empathy so I would suggest that if you can't imagine what being stuck for 5 hours in a preventable traffic jam with a sick child is like then get yourself checked out.
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Impressive, you can empathise woth people stuck in traffic yet have defended this government to the hilt on things like cuts to benefits and free school meals being cut. Didn’t see much empathy from you on both subjects Travis Bickle
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So much whataboutery on this thread.
This is about the law being applied to those who will keep offending otherwise.
There are those on here who think that if its in the name of climate change then anything goes and fack whoever it inconveniences, I don't agree.
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Explain why you can emphasise with kids stuck in traffic but not kids who aren’t being fed?
posted on 18/11/21
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 2 minutes ago
It's not really whataboutery when you brought up not being able to feel empathy for anyone is a sign of a sociopath, yet have shown in the past you clearly don't care about poor people not being able to feed their kids.
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My comments were on topic and refer to the motorists who are stuck in the jams.
Saying that I don't care about starving kids is not on topic and a bit strange. I shall be picking up my 9 year old lad from school soon, last time I looked he seemed well fed.
posted on 18/11/21
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 2 minutes ago
It's not really whataboutery when you brought up not being able to feel empathy for anyone is a sign of a sociopath, yet have shown in the past you clearly don't care about poor people not being able to feed their kids.
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My comments were on topic and refer to the motorists who are stuck in the jams.
Saying that I don't care about starving kids is not on topic and a bit strange. I shall be picking up my 9 year old lad from school soon, last time I looked he seemed well fed.
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Think you need to read Welsh’s comment again
posted on 18/11/21
It’s on topic when you are trying lecture people on empathy when you clearly haven’t got any.
posted on 18/11/21
comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted 4 hours, 32 minutes ago
putting people in prison for protesting
dangerous precedent to set
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so is standing in the fackin road being a danger to everyone, these caants want birching
posted on 18/11/21
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
comment by plain old dunc (U11713)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by Wetherby White (U6810)
posted 44 minutes ago
One of their ring leaders who was jailed, went on a 80k trip in her 4x4, before joining the protests.
Sorry, but I have zero empathy for any of these hypocrite fooks, same as I can't listen to Jeff Bezos lecturing us at COP26 about climate change.
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Yes, im sure she traveled the equivalent of greenland to australia 8 times in a 4x4 before joining a protest... i mean who wouldnt drive for about 1150 days non stop without sleep before going to a protest
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Must have been a Lada if it took her over 3 years to go 80 kilometres.
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80k is 80,000
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comment by plain old dunc (U11713)
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comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
comment by plain old dunc (U11713)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by Wetherby White (U6810)
posted 44 minutes ago
One of their ring leaders who was jailed, went on a 80k trip in her 4x4, before joining the protests.
Sorry, but I have zero empathy for any of these hypocrite fooks, same as I can't listen to Jeff Bezos lecturing us at COP26 about climate change.
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Yes, im sure she traveled the equivalent of greenland to australia 8 times in a 4x4 before joining a protest... i mean who wouldnt drive for about 1150 days non stop without sleep before going to a protest
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Must have been a Lada if it took her over 3 years to go 80 kilometres.
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80k is 80,000
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Oh. Thanks for that. Kilometres or miles?
posted on 18/11/21
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 16 minutes ago
It’s on topic when you are trying lecture people on empathy when you clearly haven’t got any.
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Odd comment.
The majority of my remarks on this subject have been about my sympathy for the motorists, lorry/ambulance drivers.
The fact that you don't care about them and side with the law breakers shows a lack of empathy.
posted on 18/11/21
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 16 minutes ago
It’s on topic when you are trying lecture people on empathy when you clearly haven’t got any.
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Odd comment.
The majority of my remarks on this subject have been about my sympathy for the motorists, lorry/ambulance drivers.
The fact that you don't care about them and side with the law breakers shows a lack of empathy.
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If you’re that bothered about ambulance drivers let’s see past comments from you criticising this government for getting us in the situation where ambulances are taking hours to get to patients and A&E’s are making them wait outside, leading to some patients dying before they get through the door.
No didn’t think so
posted on 18/11/21
comment by plain old dunc (U11713)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
comment by plain old dunc (U11713)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by Wetherby White (U6810)
posted 44 minutes ago
One of their ring leaders who was jailed, went on a 80k trip in her 4x4, before joining the protests.
Sorry, but I have zero empathy for any of these hypocrite fooks, same as I can't listen to Jeff Bezos lecturing us at COP26 about climate change.
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Yes, im sure she traveled the equivalent of greenland to australia 8 times in a 4x4 before joining a protest... i mean who wouldnt drive for about 1150 days non stop without sleep before going to a protest
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Must have been a Lada if it took her over 3 years to go 80 kilometres.
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80k is 80,000
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According to her husband the trip was about ten years ago, and it was completed to highlight that a house containing a family of four releases more carbon emissions than a 4x4 travelling tens of thousands of miles.
Whether there's any truth in that remains to be seen but its another example of 'playing the man' rather than focusing/discussing the damage, (much of which is pretty much irreversible) MMCC is causing to the planet.
posted on 18/11/21
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 4 hours, 37 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 10 seconds ago
I'll wager that those who sympathise with the protesters would feel very differently if they were stuck in an unnecessary traffic jam for hours preventing them from taking the kids to school, earning a living or getting somebody to hospital.
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Nope.
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Your kid or a close relative is fighting for their life in the back of an ambulance and you say 🤷♀️ it’s all for a good cause? Me smells BS
I actually agree with their cause, I don’t agree with their actions. I don’t eat meat and I love animals, but I despise militant vegans. Raiding restaurants does more good than bad.
posted on 18/11/21
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 16 minutes ago
It’s on topic when you are trying lecture people on empathy when you clearly haven’t got any.
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Odd comment.
The majority of my remarks on this subject have been about my sympathy for the motorists, lorry/ambulance drivers.
The fact that you don't care about them and side with the law breakers shows a lack of empathy.
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posted on 18/11/21
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 16 minutes ago
It’s on topic when you are trying lecture people on empathy when you clearly haven’t got any.
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Odd comment.
The majority of my remarks on this subject have been about my sympathy for the motorists, lorry/ambulance drivers.
The fact that you don't care about them and side with the law breakers shows a lack of empathy.
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If you’re that bothered about ambulance drivers let’s see past comments from you criticising this government for getting us in the situation where ambulances are taking hours to get to patients and A&E’s are making them wait outside, leading to some patients dying before they get through the door.
No didn’t think so
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You are addicted to whataboutery.
Whats the point of the OP raising this issue and folk commenting on it if their views or lack of them on other issues just keep getting dragged up.
You can't justify what these rsoles do but you are scared of being seen to agree with the government so its all about discrediting those call them out for the selfish attention seekers that they are.
posted on 18/11/21
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 16 minutes ago
It’s on topic when you are trying lecture people on empathy when you clearly haven’t got any.
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Odd comment.
The majority of my remarks on this subject have been about my sympathy for the motorists, lorry/ambulance drivers.
The fact that you don't care about them and side with the law breakers shows a lack of empathy.
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If you’re that bothered about ambulance drivers let’s see past comments from you criticising this government for getting us in the situation where ambulances are taking hours to get to patients and A&E’s are making them wait outside, leading to some patients dying before they get through the door.
No didn’t think so
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You are addicted to whataboutery.
Whats the point of the OP raising this issue and folk commenting on it if their views or lack of them on other issues just keep getting dragged up.
You can't justify what these rsoles do but you are scared of being seen to agree with the government so its all about discrediting those call them out for the selfish attention seekers that they are.
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Again not whataboutery, you brought up ambulance drivers being delayed . Again weird take on empathy. Bothered about ambulance drivers potentially being held up by protesters but not about actual real life cases of ambulances being held up and people dying outside A&E.
Wonder why?
posted on 18/11/21
Looking at the wider picture, studies have found there are currently around 5 million deaths per year linked to climate change. Which Insulate Britain would probably argue pales into comparison with the disruption they have been causing.
“More than 5 million people die each year globally because of excessively hot or cold conditions, a 20-year study has found – and heat-related deaths are on the rise.”
"The study involving dozens of scientists around the world found that 9.4% of global deaths each year are attributable to heat or cold exposure, equivalent to 74 extra deaths per 100,000 people.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/08/extreme-temperatures-kill-5-million-people-a-year-with-heat-related-deaths-rising-study-finds
Even if those figures are only half right, some of the predictions, (such as the below from the WHO) should be sobering reading for all.
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/climate-change-and-health
And whilst Insulate Britain may be going about things the wrong way, climate change extremism is only going to exacerbate over the years to come unless more is done. Coupled with more and more climate refugees/migrants, (climate displacement) it’s not beyond the realms of possibility some could resort to significantly more callous/extreme methods.
posted on 18/11/21
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 hours, 33 minutes ago
There’s only about 100 cars in Windhoek anyway, just park up and walk
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What a caaaant.
posted on 18/11/21
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 3 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Ole dirty Baz tard - penited and penandes (U19119)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Ole dirty Baz tard - penited and penandes (U19119)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 21 minutes ago
I'll wager that those who sympathise with the protesters would feel very differently if they were stuck in an unnecessary traffic jam for hours preventing them from taking the kids to school, earning a living or getting somebody to hospital.
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Atleast insulate Britain turn up when they block off roads. The true caaants are road workmen who block roads then fack off into thin air
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I swear 95% of the time I drive past works on the motorway you don't see a single worker anywhere.
I understand a lot of them supposedly work during the night because its safer but as it happens I often tend to be on the roads in the early hours because of my workline, and I rarely see them then either.
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Exactly. Makes you wonder what the fack they are actually doing them when it’s a rarity to see a worker at any road site. It’s genuinely a rarity that you see one, and I honestly don’t ever think I’ve seen one doing anything at any time of day or night if I have somehow actually managed to glimpse one of the mythical basssstards.
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Yet somehow roads are built and repaired. Amazing.
Elves I guess.
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posted on 18/11/21
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 2 hours, 22 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - I got 5 on it. (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
How were they left with no choice? I've stated above, social media is huge, they would have probably gained more evidence-based support by starting and sharing a campaign through different social media platforms and having a petition to go to the relevant authorities with, rather than sit in a road with a few banners hacking people off.
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More rubbish.
There's already a billion petitions and sheet mate. Don't seem to have any effect.
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How do you know they have no effect? Because it doesn't do an automatic U-turn overnight it means nothing significant has happened?
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I don't. I said they don't seem to work. There's a difference.
Clearly they're not fit for purpose though because if they were then we would be seeing real action and sacrifices to tackle climate change.
The petitions are working so well that people can't handle a traffic jam.
posted on 18/11/21
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - I got 5 on it. (U1282)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 5 minutes ago
I'm amazed there are several people on here who are gen saying they wouldn't be annoyed at having to sit in a 5 hour traffic jam because of some silly protestors.
Absolutely fvcking that would be the case in reality
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I'm always annoyed when protesters disrupt my day or travel. In my life I've been inconvenienced by many protests. I get annoyed but I don't go about my life crying about those protesters.
There was this one time I was in Windhoek and there was a protest by women over women's rights. They blocked the road and I missed the seminar Iwas going to. Was I annoyed? Yes, but that doesn't mean I'd celebrate if they started throwing the women in prison.
Why? Because I have a brain.
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There's also a clear difference between not supporting their actions and "celebrating them been thrown in prison" as you put it. Everyone agrees with the message they are trying to get across but there is a time and a place that doesn't cause more bad than good.
Pawl's point is definitely a valid one that if you were suffering at the hands of the protests, you'd likely feel different in how much you support them. In fact, I'd be certain of it, particularly if you had somewhere urgently important to be.
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Eh?
Protesting women might be an inconvenience but it wouldn't make me less of a believer in women's rights. Not one iota.
posted on 18/11/21
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 16 minutes ago
It’s on topic when you are trying lecture people on empathy when you clearly haven’t got any.
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Odd comment.
The majority of my remarks on this subject have been about my sympathy for the motorists, lorry/ambulance drivers.
The fact that you don't care about them and side with the law breakers shows a lack of empathy.
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posted on 18/11/21
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? What age is middle aged? (U3126)
posted 41 minutes ago
Looking at the wider picture, studies have found there are currently around 5 million deaths per year linked to climate change. Which Insulate Britain would probably argue pales into comparison with the disruption they have been causing.
“More than 5 million people die each year globally because of excessively hot or cold conditions, a 20-year study has found – and heat-related deaths are on the rise.”
"The study involving dozens of scientists around the world found that 9.4% of global deaths each year are attributable to heat or cold exposure, equivalent to 74 extra deaths per 100,000 people.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/08/extreme-temperatures-kill-5-million-people-a-year-with-heat-related-deaths-rising-study-finds
Even if those figures are only half right, some of the predictions, (such as the below from the WHO) should be sobering reading for all.
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/climate-change-and-health
And whilst Insulate Britain may be going about things the wrong way, climate change extremism is only going to exacerbate over the years to come unless more is done. Coupled with more and more climate refugees/migrants, (climate displacement) it’s not beyond the realms of possibility some could resort to significantly more callous/extreme methods.
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The UK isn’t responsible for ‘global warming’ it happens and has been happening since the start of time, naturally all over the world. Excess Co2 pollution and plastic waste etc, which we will fill the land and sea with is our own problem to deal with today, but the uk contributing 1% towards all Co2 waste, doesn’t justify these fackers making everyone’s lives a misery and putting themselves and everyone else in danger.
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