Thoroughly agree, in every respect. We will need someone who is more switched on and with greater energy than the very laboured Soumare, who looks like he’s played 90 minutes at the kick off!
comment by 4zA - Chaos is the future And beyond it is freedom Confusion is next and next after that is the truth (U22472)
posted 7 hours, 25 minutes ago
ur gonna liminate us
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4zure 😉
Perfectly aligns with my feelings before and after the game Dunge.
I would say that I maybe rate Daka higher than you. Not necessarily for his performance in this game, but he look like a player who can score when given a chance. Now all we need to do is coach him where to be to get those chances and that is much easier than trying to coach the former!!!
For me he’s a huge talent and looks a ready made replacement for Vardy. He also looks a lovely man.
What’s not to like?
I also see more in Lookman than others I think. If we can improve our movement in the final 3rd I think he can pick out a final ball. We’re just in a bad moment so when he looks up he’s having to run or force it.
As for Soumare. Well after such promise and great scouting reports, he looks worrying doesn’t he. Pedestrian is the politest word I can think of to describe the “box to box” midfielder we were promised.
A much improved performance by Brendan so 7. It's not difficult Mr Rogers, play 4 at the back instead of 5 and we might have a chance to compete in midfield; see Soumare - slightly improved performance as evidence.
Otherwise nothing much to comment on in regard to your assessment Dunge.
I've a few mixed feelings after this performance. Yes we won (and that's ultimately all that matters) and there were improved performances. Positives were the contributions from our creative players: Barnes and Maddison - and of a greater intensity all round.
Negatives are that they seemed to play through us far too easily. Whether this is down to individuals or the way the team is set up I don't know? Maybe a bit of both, but it allowed Legia to expose a back four who still look like they've got a dodgy moment in them. Amartey dithering is one incident that comes to mind and also the near post header from a corner that was headed off the line preventing a case of deja vu.
Like others I'm worried about Soumare as I can't see what he offers currently. He carries the ball reasonably well, but is weak defensively, positionally poor and can't pass very well. He's new to the league and only 22 (younger than KDH) so time will tell.
I thought Lookman did ok, but I can't help thinking that we won't see him beyond this season and the hunt for a right sided midfielder/winger will continue.
Finally, what was the point in the Vestergaard and Bertrand signings? We're rightly bemoaning our luck with injuries, but our recruitment to cope with these absences hasn't helped. Vesty is now 5th choice (behind Amartey) and Bertrand is arguably behind Thomas and whichever RB is fit enough to play LB out of Ricardo, Castagne or Justin.
We won! Better performance all round. But I'd like the evidence of a turnaround to be repeated against Watford before I draw too many conclusions.
PS Still love the match ratings articles Dunge. The best LCFC ones on the internet
Joby
On a couple of your points here: I think the defensive issues yesterday were caused by way too many of the team not looking interested in defending. And I'm looking primarily at Soumare, Barnes and Lookman there. I thought the back 4 had good games (as reflected in my ratings), but they didn't get a lot of cover. It was helped as the subs came on, with all of KDH, Perez and Albrighton helping in that regard. But yes, our defence will continue to be put under intolerable pressure as long as that lack of commitment across the team continues.
On Soumare, what I will say for him is that he looks technically very good. He has a range of passing - albeit not Tielemans standard but still good, and shows glimpses of having a strong skillset. But this is massively overridden by the fact that much of the time he ambles around the pitch with a giant question mark over his head. Whether he'll come good or not, it's hard to say.
Just going off topic for a minute, what's happened to Stringer (not on RL any more)?
comment by Jobyfox (U4183)
posted 5 hours, 33 minutes ago
I've a few mixed feelings after this performance. Yes we won (and that's ultimately all that matters) and there were improved performances. Positives were the contributions from our creative players: Barnes and Maddison - and of a greater intensity all round.
Negatives are that they seemed to play through us far too easily. Whether this is down to individuals or the way the team is set up I don't know? Maybe a bit of both, but it allowed Legia to expose a back four who still look like they've got a dodgy moment in them. Amartey dithering is one incident that comes to mind and also the near post header from a corner that was headed off the line preventing a case of deja vu.
Like others I'm worried about Soumare as I can't see what he offers currently. He carries the ball reasonably well, but is weak defensively, positionally poor and can't pass very well. He's new to the league and only 22 (younger than KDH) so time will tell.
I thought Lookman did ok, but I can't help thinking that we won't see him beyond this season and the hunt for a right sided midfielder/winger will continue.
Finally, what was the point in the Vestergaard and Bertrand signings? We're rightly bemoaning our luck with injuries, but our recruitment to cope with these absences hasn't helped. Vesty is now 5th choice (behind Amartey) and Bertrand is arguably behind Thomas and whichever RB is fit enough to play LB out of Ricardo, Castagne or Justin.
We won! Better performance all round. But I'd like the evidence of a turnaround to be repeated against Watford before I draw too many conclusions.
PS Still love the match ratings articles Dunge. The best LCFC ones on the internet
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I second this. Massively love the match ratings. More than life itself.
I'm going out on a limb to say that Daniel is turning into a very assured and confident defender, in fact he's challenging both Evans and Soyuncu on quality at the moment.
When so many have failed to step up this Season he certainly has, he should surely get the ' most improved' award, if were doing better ( and we may yet ) I'm sure he'd get more recognition and the Daily Rags would be matchimng him with Barcelona etc.
I agree with Mersey as well that Lookman is being underated by many, he won't get too much game time, far too exciting for a Rodgers squad.
Soumare I'm middle of the road with, I don't think he's anywhere near as bad as some make out but I can understand their frustration with him.
Tillyesque comes to mind.
PS - Will Rodgers go back to Rodgers Ball in the League, I'm guessing so, defensive and cautious is the name of the game in the League, in the Cups he lets himself loose in a no risk situation.
comment by Nuneaton_fox (U7936)
posted 4 hours, 47 minutes ago
Just going off topic for a minute, what's happened to Stringer (not on RL any more)?
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I believe taking a break due to some mental health troubles.
Doing ok, but needs the rest.
comment by True Blue (U9486)
posted 3 hours, 45 minutes ago
PS - Will Rodgers go back to Rodgers Ball in the League, I'm guessing so, defensive and cautious is the name of the game in the League, in the Cups he lets himself loose in a no risk situation.
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I think a lot depends on how organised the opposition are. If you come with any sort of plan (high press, low block, etc.) and execute it with reasonable success, we don't have any answer to it.
So as I suspected any half decent can counter Rodgers one dimensional tactics.
comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 9 hours, 46 minutes ago
comment by Nuneaton_fox (U7936)
posted 4 hours, 47 minutes ago
Just going off topic for a minute, what's happened to Stringer (not on RL any more)?
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I believe taking a break due to some mental health troubles.
Doing ok, but needs the rest.
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Best wishes for a speedy recovery.
comment by True Blue (U9486)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
So as I suspected any half decent can counter Rodgers one dimensional tactics.
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Except that he has other tactics in his locker, he just doesn't bring them out until we have leaked goals and are in a desperate situation!
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posted on 25/11/21
Thoroughly agree, in every respect. We will need someone who is more switched on and with greater energy than the very laboured Soumare, who looks like he’s played 90 minutes at the kick off!
posted on 25/11/21
ur gonna liminate us
posted on 26/11/21
comment by 4zA - Chaos is the future And beyond it is freedom Confusion is next and next after that is the truth (U22472)
posted 7 hours, 25 minutes ago
ur gonna liminate us
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4zure 😉
posted on 26/11/21
Perfectly aligns with my feelings before and after the game Dunge.
I would say that I maybe rate Daka higher than you. Not necessarily for his performance in this game, but he look like a player who can score when given a chance. Now all we need to do is coach him where to be to get those chances and that is much easier than trying to coach the former!!!
For me he’s a huge talent and looks a ready made replacement for Vardy. He also looks a lovely man.
What’s not to like?
I also see more in Lookman than others I think. If we can improve our movement in the final 3rd I think he can pick out a final ball. We’re just in a bad moment so when he looks up he’s having to run or force it.
As for Soumare. Well after such promise and great scouting reports, he looks worrying doesn’t he. Pedestrian is the politest word I can think of to describe the “box to box” midfielder we were promised.
posted on 26/11/21
A much improved performance by Brendan so 7. It's not difficult Mr Rogers, play 4 at the back instead of 5 and we might have a chance to compete in midfield; see Soumare - slightly improved performance as evidence.
Otherwise nothing much to comment on in regard to your assessment Dunge.
posted on 26/11/21
I've a few mixed feelings after this performance. Yes we won (and that's ultimately all that matters) and there were improved performances. Positives were the contributions from our creative players: Barnes and Maddison - and of a greater intensity all round.
Negatives are that they seemed to play through us far too easily. Whether this is down to individuals or the way the team is set up I don't know? Maybe a bit of both, but it allowed Legia to expose a back four who still look like they've got a dodgy moment in them. Amartey dithering is one incident that comes to mind and also the near post header from a corner that was headed off the line preventing a case of deja vu.
Like others I'm worried about Soumare as I can't see what he offers currently. He carries the ball reasonably well, but is weak defensively, positionally poor and can't pass very well. He's new to the league and only 22 (younger than KDH) so time will tell.
I thought Lookman did ok, but I can't help thinking that we won't see him beyond this season and the hunt for a right sided midfielder/winger will continue.
Finally, what was the point in the Vestergaard and Bertrand signings? We're rightly bemoaning our luck with injuries, but our recruitment to cope with these absences hasn't helped. Vesty is now 5th choice (behind Amartey) and Bertrand is arguably behind Thomas and whichever RB is fit enough to play LB out of Ricardo, Castagne or Justin.
We won! Better performance all round. But I'd like the evidence of a turnaround to be repeated against Watford before I draw too many conclusions.
PS Still love the match ratings articles Dunge. The best LCFC ones on the internet
posted on 26/11/21
Joby
On a couple of your points here: I think the defensive issues yesterday were caused by way too many of the team not looking interested in defending. And I'm looking primarily at Soumare, Barnes and Lookman there. I thought the back 4 had good games (as reflected in my ratings), but they didn't get a lot of cover. It was helped as the subs came on, with all of KDH, Perez and Albrighton helping in that regard. But yes, our defence will continue to be put under intolerable pressure as long as that lack of commitment across the team continues.
On Soumare, what I will say for him is that he looks technically very good. He has a range of passing - albeit not Tielemans standard but still good, and shows glimpses of having a strong skillset. But this is massively overridden by the fact that much of the time he ambles around the pitch with a giant question mark over his head. Whether he'll come good or not, it's hard to say.
posted on 26/11/21
Just going off topic for a minute, what's happened to Stringer (not on RL any more)?
posted on 26/11/21
comment by Jobyfox (U4183)
posted 5 hours, 33 minutes ago
I've a few mixed feelings after this performance. Yes we won (and that's ultimately all that matters) and there were improved performances. Positives were the contributions from our creative players: Barnes and Maddison - and of a greater intensity all round.
Negatives are that they seemed to play through us far too easily. Whether this is down to individuals or the way the team is set up I don't know? Maybe a bit of both, but it allowed Legia to expose a back four who still look like they've got a dodgy moment in them. Amartey dithering is one incident that comes to mind and also the near post header from a corner that was headed off the line preventing a case of deja vu.
Like others I'm worried about Soumare as I can't see what he offers currently. He carries the ball reasonably well, but is weak defensively, positionally poor and can't pass very well. He's new to the league and only 22 (younger than KDH) so time will tell.
I thought Lookman did ok, but I can't help thinking that we won't see him beyond this season and the hunt for a right sided midfielder/winger will continue.
Finally, what was the point in the Vestergaard and Bertrand signings? We're rightly bemoaning our luck with injuries, but our recruitment to cope with these absences hasn't helped. Vesty is now 5th choice (behind Amartey) and Bertrand is arguably behind Thomas and whichever RB is fit enough to play LB out of Ricardo, Castagne or Justin.
We won! Better performance all round. But I'd like the evidence of a turnaround to be repeated against Watford before I draw too many conclusions.
PS Still love the match ratings articles Dunge. The best LCFC ones on the internet
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I second this. Massively love the match ratings. More than life itself.
posted on 26/11/21
I'm going out on a limb to say that Daniel is turning into a very assured and confident defender, in fact he's challenging both Evans and Soyuncu on quality at the moment.
When so many have failed to step up this Season he certainly has, he should surely get the ' most improved' award, if were doing better ( and we may yet ) I'm sure he'd get more recognition and the Daily Rags would be matchimng him with Barcelona etc.
I agree with Mersey as well that Lookman is being underated by many, he won't get too much game time, far too exciting for a Rodgers squad.
Soumare I'm middle of the road with, I don't think he's anywhere near as bad as some make out but I can understand their frustration with him.
Tillyesque comes to mind.
posted on 26/11/21
PS - Will Rodgers go back to Rodgers Ball in the League, I'm guessing so, defensive and cautious is the name of the game in the League, in the Cups he lets himself loose in a no risk situation.
posted on 26/11/21
comment by Nuneaton_fox (U7936)
posted 4 hours, 47 minutes ago
Just going off topic for a minute, what's happened to Stringer (not on RL any more)?
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I believe taking a break due to some mental health troubles.
Doing ok, but needs the rest.
posted on 26/11/21
comment by True Blue (U9486)
posted 3 hours, 45 minutes ago
PS - Will Rodgers go back to Rodgers Ball in the League, I'm guessing so, defensive and cautious is the name of the game in the League, in the Cups he lets himself loose in a no risk situation.
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I think a lot depends on how organised the opposition are. If you come with any sort of plan (high press, low block, etc.) and execute it with reasonable success, we don't have any answer to it.
posted on 27/11/21
So as I suspected any half decent can counter Rodgers one dimensional tactics.
posted on 27/11/21
comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 9 hours, 46 minutes ago
comment by Nuneaton_fox (U7936)
posted 4 hours, 47 minutes ago
Just going off topic for a minute, what's happened to Stringer (not on RL any more)?
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I believe taking a break due to some mental health troubles.
Doing ok, but needs the rest.
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Best wishes for a speedy recovery.
posted on 27/11/21
comment by True Blue (U9486)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
So as I suspected any half decent can counter Rodgers one dimensional tactics.
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Except that he has other tactics in his locker, he just doesn't bring them out until we have leaked goals and are in a desperate situation!
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