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posted on 26/11/21

It’s obvious to anyone that some of those players just walk around in these games thinking I used to play CL midweek in the best stadiums in Europe - no sense of them being the reason why they no longer do that anymore.

posted on 26/11/21

comment by Striketeam7 - Sometimes it’s hard being the smartest person in the room (U18109)
posted 13 minutes ago
It’s obvious to anyone that some of those players just walk around in these games thinking I used to play CL midweek in the best stadiums in Europe - no sense of them being the reason why they no longer do that anymore.
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We really rewarded the wrong players. Giving players big contracts to stay at our club and treat it like a hotel. Maybe being a selling club actually works for us. Ajax model. As soon as a player thinks they are too big for the club..sell them.

posted on 26/11/21

Kane Dele Ndombele all wanted to leave yet they get starts ahead of younger committed players

Winks Sanchez Dier and Davies simply aren't good enough for a Top 4 backline no matter how committed a few of them are.

Bergwijn and Lo Celso don't play enough games and don't seem bothered about it

Lloris is in last year of contract and this can be seen negatively by team mates.

10 first teamers all with question marks about their skill and commitment to the club...its a hot mess

posted on 26/11/21

You think that the training ground is creating a culture of ‘weak minded individuals who get complacent’?

posted on 26/11/21

comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 10 seconds ago
You think that the training ground is creating a culture of ‘weak minded individuals who get complacent’?
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creating....?


It's been ingrained in the club for years

posted on 26/11/21

comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 11 minutes ago
You think that the training ground is creating a culture of ‘weak minded individuals who get complacent’?
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The whole set up

posted on 26/11/21

High wages, spoilt surroundings, constant managerial change. Levy valuing players over managers.

posted on 26/11/21

comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 2 minutes ago
High wages, spoilt surroundings, constant managerial change. Levy valuing players over managers.
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Considering other more successful clubs, such as Chelsea, who undoubtedly in your mind have ‘great mentality’ do the same thing. Surely you understand that this isn’t true?

posted on 26/11/21

comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 2 minutes ago
High wages, spoilt surroundings, constant managerial change. Levy valuing players over managers.
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Considering other more successful clubs, such as Chelsea, who undoubtedly in your mind have ‘great mentality’ do the same thing. Surely you understand that this isn’t true?
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Chelsea don’t waste their time with feeble minded players. It’s shape up or ship out at the Bridge. Werner can’t hit a barn door, Lukaku comes in, Pulisic can legally be declared dead now and Christensen despite being a very good defender does t play consistently which costs me Fantasy football points.

The difference is at Chelsea if you are not on it all of the time then there is usually at least 2 players waiting to take your spot and if there isn’t then you can expect them to buy one in the next window. At Spurs we still persist with useless back up players like Dele, Winks, Doherty, Lo celso

posted on 26/11/21

Conte said the same about the set-up as soon as he walked through the door. Incredible facilities but maybe a bit too much, which I'm sure Levy loved to hear.

It doesn't let the players of the hook. The mentality of some of the players is indicative of the characterless, limp-wristed traits of a generation. It doesn't matter about the real fans or their personal pride or dignity in the real world. They get all the self-gratification and self-worth they need away from the pitch. That all goes beyond general management and leadership. Some of these players need fcuking counselling and we haven't got the time for it.

The players need to be more vocal and let the caaants who are letting the side down know what the score is and drive them out of the club. If the managers and fans can't do it, the players have to try.

Bars of soap wrapped up in towels, emotional abuse. Something to that effect.

posted on 26/11/21

comment by Striketeam7 - Sometimes it’s hard being the smartest person in the room (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 2 minutes ago
High wages, spoilt surroundings, constant managerial change. Levy valuing players over managers.
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Considering other more successful clubs, such as Chelsea, who undoubtedly in your mind have ‘great mentality’ do the same thing. Surely you understand that this isn’t true?
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Chelsea don’t waste their time with feeble minded players. It’s shape up or ship out at the Bridge. Werner can’t hit a barn door, Lukaku comes in, Pulisic can legally be declared dead now and Christensen despite being a very good defender does t play consistently which costs me Fantasy football points.

The difference is at Chelsea if you are not on it all of the time then there is usually at least 2 players waiting to take your spot and if there isn’t then you can expect them to buy one in the next window. At Spurs we still persist with useless back up players like Dele, Winks, Doherty, Lo celso
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But what you are saying isn’t supporting loavirgo’s point. They have high wages, ‘spoilt’ surroundings, constant managerial change and players being overvalued too.

They have more money to spend on players, that is true and ultimately the biggest factor of their success - but they’ve had Barkley, Drinkwater, Baba Rahman, Batshuyi etc on their books for the longest time

posted on 26/11/21

comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 2 minutes ago
High wages, spoilt surroundings, constant managerial change. Levy valuing players over managers.
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Considering other more successful clubs, such as Chelsea, who undoubtedly in your mind have ‘great mentality’ do the same thing. Surely you understand that this isn’t true?
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Chelsea sell and buy. We don't. We let influential player linger like a bad smell

posted on 26/11/21

Great mentality in football isn't about loyalty. In a way its about selfishly trying to be your best and win as much as you can.

Spurs don't have winning mentality and they aren't even loyal to their team mates.

In other more physical sports you play for your team mates more than the manager.

Our players couldn't care less about themselves or their team mates.

Watch the games. They don't even want to offer support for a pass or cover if a team mate misses a tackle.

posted on 26/11/21

It’s less than a month into learning a completely new, highly demanding system. Chill.

posted on 26/11/21

comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Sometimes it’s hard being the smartest person in the room (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 2 minutes ago
High wages, spoilt surroundings, constant managerial change. Levy valuing players over managers.
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Considering other more successful clubs, such as Chelsea, who undoubtedly in your mind have ‘great mentality’ do the same thing. Surely you understand that this isn’t true?
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Chelsea don’t waste their time with feeble minded players. It’s shape up or ship out at the Bridge. Werner can’t hit a barn door, Lukaku comes in, Pulisic can legally be declared dead now and Christensen despite being a very good defender does t play consistently which costs me Fantasy football points.

The difference is at Chelsea if you are not on it all of the time then there is usually at least 2 players waiting to take your spot and if there isn’t then you can expect them to buy one in the next window. At Spurs we still persist with useless back up players like Dele, Winks, Doherty, Lo celso
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But what you are saying isn’t supporting loavirgo’s point. They have high wages, ‘spoilt’ surroundings, constant managerial change and players being overvalued too.

They have more money to spend on players, that is true and ultimately the biggest factor of their success - but they’ve had Barkley, Drinkwater, Baba Rahman, Batshuyi etc on their books for the longest time
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Chelsea don’t waste their time on those players you have listed, they get rid, loaned or stuck in the bomb squad.

Yet Dele, Winks, Lo Celso and Doherty keep getting chances.

I’ve never been a fan of a new manager coming in and giving everyone a clean slate - it just resets the clock for complete failures. I expect Conte to start getting rid in Jan through either Sales, Loans or a bomb squad. It may run the decent players into the ground short term but we will be stronger for it long term.

There’s a few in our squad who are lucky they don’t post on here otherwise they would be up for the Culer of the year award

posted on 26/11/21

comment by Striketeam7 - Sometimes it’s hard being the smartest person in the room (U18109)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Sometimes it’s hard being the smartest person in the room (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 2 minutes ago
High wages, spoilt surroundings, constant managerial change. Levy valuing players over managers.
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Considering other more successful clubs, such as Chelsea, who undoubtedly in your mind have ‘great mentality’ do the same thing. Surely you understand that this isn’t true?
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Chelsea don’t waste their time with feeble minded players. It’s shape up or ship out at the Bridge. Werner can’t hit a barn door, Lukaku comes in, Pulisic can legally be declared dead now and Christensen despite being a very good defender does t play consistently which costs me Fantasy football points.

The difference is at Chelsea if you are not on it all of the time then there is usually at least 2 players waiting to take your spot and if there isn’t then you can expect them to buy one in the next window. At Spurs we still persist with useless back up players like Dele, Winks, Doherty, Lo celso
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But what you are saying isn’t supporting loavirgo’s point. They have high wages, ‘spoilt’ surroundings, constant managerial change and players being overvalued too.

They have more money to spend on players, that is true and ultimately the biggest factor of their success - but they’ve had Barkley, Drinkwater, Baba Rahman, Batshuyi etc on their books for the longest time
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Chelsea don’t waste their time on those players you have listed, they get rid, loaned or stuck in the bomb squad.

Yet Dele, Winks, Lo Celso and Doherty keep getting chances.

I’ve never been a fan of a new manager coming in and giving everyone a clean slate - it just resets the clock for complete failures. I expect Conte to start getting rid in Jan through either Sales, Loans or a bomb squad. It may run the decent players into the ground short term but we will be stronger for it long term.

There’s a few in our squad who are lucky they don’t post on here otherwise they would be up for the Culer of the year award
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That’s not true though. Using those players listed:
GLC - I’ve seen Ziyech get as many opportunities
Dele - I still see them give Barkley chances
Winks - see RLC

The clean slate argument, again using Chelsea as an example they wouldn’t have won the league without Alonso or Moses getting a clean slate.

I’m not against a clear-out, I think all players have a price. However I’m not letting a few bad seasons dictate a narrative that has only been created due to a period of sustained bad form.

posted on 26/11/21

comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Sometimes it’s hard being the smartest person in the room (U18109)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Sometimes it’s hard being the smartest person in the room (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 2 minutes ago
High wages, spoilt surroundings, constant managerial change. Levy valuing players over managers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Considering other more successful clubs, such as Chelsea, who undoubtedly in your mind have ‘great mentality’ do the same thing. Surely you understand that this isn’t true?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Chelsea don’t waste their time with feeble minded players. It’s shape up or ship out at the Bridge. Werner can’t hit a barn door, Lukaku comes in, Pulisic can legally be declared dead now and Christensen despite being a very good defender does t play consistently which costs me Fantasy football points.

The difference is at Chelsea if you are not on it all of the time then there is usually at least 2 players waiting to take your spot and if there isn’t then you can expect them to buy one in the next window. At Spurs we still persist with useless back up players like Dele, Winks, Doherty, Lo celso
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But what you are saying isn’t supporting loavirgo’s point. They have high wages, ‘spoilt’ surroundings, constant managerial change and players being overvalued too.

They have more money to spend on players, that is true and ultimately the biggest factor of their success - but they’ve had Barkley, Drinkwater, Baba Rahman, Batshuyi etc on their books for the longest time
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Chelsea don’t waste their time on those players you have listed, they get rid, loaned or stuck in the bomb squad.

Yet Dele, Winks, Lo Celso and Doherty keep getting chances.

I’ve never been a fan of a new manager coming in and giving everyone a clean slate - it just resets the clock for complete failures. I expect Conte to start getting rid in Jan through either Sales, Loans or a bomb squad. It may run the decent players into the ground short term but we will be stronger for it long term.

There’s a few in our squad who are lucky they don’t post on here otherwise they would be up for the Culer of the year award
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That’s not true though. Using those players listed:
GLC - I’ve seen Ziyech get as many opportunities
Dele - I still see them give Barkley chances
Winks - see RLC

The clean slate argument, again using Chelsea as an example they wouldn’t have won the league without Alonso or Moses getting a clean slate.

I’m not against a clear-out, I think all players have a price. However I’m not letting a few bad seasons dictate a narrative that has only been created due to a period of sustained bad form.
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Ziyech is vastly superior to Lo Celso and Barkley gets the odd game, usually surrounded by 9 or 10 others straining every sinew to be successful. We stick Kane and Skipp in with a load of either has been a or never beens and get diddly from them.

How can a few bad “seasons” not dictate narrative, before that it was only a few good seasons built on a hungry competitive squad of younger talented players vying for positions and not living in a 5 star resort at the ground immune from critiscism

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