I'd be surprised if all of them left, but Henderson aside, not massively fussed.
The club should be looking to recruit in midfield and at CF for the long term anyway, so I don't think it would constitute a rebuild. Maybe it'll work out for Donny, who knows?
Only 2 of those actually played regular football for us in the past couple of seasons tbf.
We need signings still to compliment the first team and improve certain positions, which would mean those displaced would become the back up and take the roles of the list above.
Only 2 of players are getting any sort of significant game time when fit. And they are both pretty injury prone
We'll be losing a bit in depth this summer but not really in quality. And it isn't the worst thing - it's a massively bloated squad anyway.
The central midfield as per usual is the worry. If everyone in that list leaves we're left with McFred as the only recognised 2. Meaning we'll have to be in for 2, ideally 3 more. What we get for continuing to neglect it.
The squad’s far from “an absolute mess”
Beekers! and Pogba may well want to stay under a new manager, Hendo will stay or go on loan… the rest are hardly worth worrying about and will be replaced
Let’s dissect this a little more… if everyone were to leave, here’s the reasons
Henderson - scared to fight for a place
Jones - perma injury
Vdb - scared to fight for a place
Pogba - wants to win stuff
Matic - old, squad player
Mata - old, squad player
Lingard - wants first team football
Martial - scared to fight for a place
Cavani - old, squad player
Gutted about Pogba and Cavani
I thought that any half decent manager would get a tune out of this squad rather than the PE teacher
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - It's Beekers! (U2958)
posted 10 minutes ago
Let’s dissect this a little more… if everyone were to leave, here’s the reasons
Henderson - scared to fight for a place
Jones - perma injury
Vdb - scared to fight for a place
Pogba - wants to win stuff
Matic - old, squad player
Mata - old, squad player
Lingard - wants first team football
Martial - scared to fight for a place
Cavani - old, squad player
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Pogba - wants to win stuff but will work for it only when he feels like doing it at Utd.
There I fixed it for you
comment by LustyMonc (U22632)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - It's Beekers! (U2958)
posted 10 minutes ago
Let’s dissect this a little more… if everyone were to leave, here’s the reasons
Henderson - scared to fight for a place
Jones - perma injury
Vdb - scared to fight for a place
Pogba - wants to win stuff
Matic - old, squad player
Mata - old, squad player
Lingard - wants first team football
Martial - scared to fight for a place
Cavani - old, squad player
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Pogba - wants to win stuff but will work for it only when he feels like doing it at Utd.
There I fixed it for you
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No. No, you didn’t. His post remains the same
You just replied with something different, underneath his post.
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
I thought that any half decent manager would get a tune out of this squad rather than the PE teacher
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My thoughts exactly
Been saying all along. Ole came in, was a breath of fresh air.
Longer he went on and more money that was spent we seemed to be getting into a bigger mess.
And yes it is a much bigger mess. LVG and Jose had money and we needed a rebuild with Ole getting rid of the deadwood.
Ole has left and spend a huge load of money and we need to get rid of the deadwood. The deadwood this time being players worth a lot of money but we will probably get nada.
comment by RalFred (U19849)
posted 1 minute ago
Been saying all along. Ole came in, was a breath of fresh air.
Longer he went on and more money that was spent we seemed to be getting into a bigger mess.
And yes it is a much bigger mess. LVG and Jose had money and we needed a rebuild with Ole getting rid of the deadwood.
Ole has left and spend a huge load of money and we need to get rid of the deadwood. The deadwood this time being players worth a lot of money but we will probably get nada.
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You mean, rinse and repeat?
Jones, Mata, Lingard, Matic and Martial are all surplus to requirements.
Not sure Beekers contract is up in the summer as him signing just a two year one would seem odd.
Pogba is the only real anomaly to that list because he does have the talent but I can’t see him being a Ralf player.
As much as I like Cavani he would probably want to be leaving at the end of this season anyway.
Shift the deadwood and bring in players Ralf needs to implement his style
Let's have a look at this absolute mess of a squad
GK - DDG/Hendo
RB - Dalot/AWB
CB - Bailly/Varane/Maguire/Lindelof
LB - Shaw/Telles
CM - McT/Fred/Pogba/Beekers/Matic
Attack
- Ronaldo/Cavani/Bruno/Rashers/Sancho/Greenwood/Martial
That's without including some youth and squad players.
If Pogba, Cavani, Matic, Martial and Lingard all left, we'd only really need to address the midfield.
Absolute mess
That would also be a lot of money saved on wages too.
An rough approximate breakdown from what i've read on sites in the past
Henderson - £100k?
Jones - £80k?
Vdb - £120k?
Pogba - £290k?
Matic - £120k?
Mata - £120k?
Lingard - £75k?
Martial - £250k?
Cavani - £300 - 350k?
So possibly upto around £1.5 million a week saved on wages on these lot.
It's astonishing how much money we've wasted on some average players in this list over the years.
Still a couple of useful players in this list, but for what we're paying it's madness if they're not regulars.
If Martial wants yo go we should try and get Aubameyang.
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - It's Beekers... (U2958)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
Let's have a look at this absolute mess of a squad
GK - DDG/Hendo
RB - Dalot/AWB
CB - Bailly/Varane/Maguire/Lindelof
LB - Shaw/Telles
CM - McT/Fred/Pogba/Beekers/Matic
Attack
- Ronaldo/Cavani/Bruno/Rashers/Sancho/Greenwood/Martial
That's without including some youth and squad players.
If Pogba, Cavani, Matic, Martial and Lingard all left, we'd only really need to address the midfield.
Absolute mess
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Which is what we've needed since SAF days if we're honest.
And let's not forget we've been spending money on likes of amad etc and not played them.
4/500m spent and problems not rectified. So we've been static and now need another rebuild
Do you understand what rebuild means?
It’s generally not needing a couple of CMs if other CMs leave
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - It's Beekers... (U2958)
posted 5 minutes ago
Do you understand what rebuild means?
It’s generally not needing a couple of CMs if other CMs leave
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We need a rebuild. MF, possibly a couple of defenders and striker/s .
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posted on 11/12/21
I'd be surprised if all of them left, but Henderson aside, not massively fussed.
The club should be looking to recruit in midfield and at CF for the long term anyway, so I don't think it would constitute a rebuild. Maybe it'll work out for Donny, who knows?
posted on 11/12/21
Only 2 of those actually played regular football for us in the past couple of seasons tbf.
We need signings still to compliment the first team and improve certain positions, which would mean those displaced would become the back up and take the roles of the list above.
posted on 11/12/21
Only 2 of players are getting any sort of significant game time when fit. And they are both pretty injury prone
We'll be losing a bit in depth this summer but not really in quality. And it isn't the worst thing - it's a massively bloated squad anyway.
The central midfield as per usual is the worry. If everyone in that list leaves we're left with McFred as the only recognised 2. Meaning we'll have to be in for 2, ideally 3 more. What we get for continuing to neglect it.
posted on 11/12/21
The squad’s far from “an absolute mess”
Beekers! and Pogba may well want to stay under a new manager, Hendo will stay or go on loan… the rest are hardly worth worrying about and will be replaced
posted on 11/12/21
Let’s dissect this a little more… if everyone were to leave, here’s the reasons
Henderson - scared to fight for a place
Jones - perma injury
Vdb - scared to fight for a place
Pogba - wants to win stuff
Matic - old, squad player
Mata - old, squad player
Lingard - wants first team football
Martial - scared to fight for a place
Cavani - old, squad player
posted on 11/12/21
Gutted about Pogba and Cavani
posted on 11/12/21
I thought that any half decent manager would get a tune out of this squad rather than the PE teacher
posted on 11/12/21
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - It's Beekers! (U2958)
posted 10 minutes ago
Let’s dissect this a little more… if everyone were to leave, here’s the reasons
Henderson - scared to fight for a place
Jones - perma injury
Vdb - scared to fight for a place
Pogba - wants to win stuff
Matic - old, squad player
Mata - old, squad player
Lingard - wants first team football
Martial - scared to fight for a place
Cavani - old, squad player
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Pogba - wants to win stuff but will work for it only when he feels like doing it at Utd.
There I fixed it for you
posted on 11/12/21
comment by LustyMonc (U22632)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - It's Beekers! (U2958)
posted 10 minutes ago
Let’s dissect this a little more… if everyone were to leave, here’s the reasons
Henderson - scared to fight for a place
Jones - perma injury
Vdb - scared to fight for a place
Pogba - wants to win stuff
Matic - old, squad player
Mata - old, squad player
Lingard - wants first team football
Martial - scared to fight for a place
Cavani - old, squad player
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Pogba - wants to win stuff but will work for it only when he feels like doing it at Utd.
There I fixed it for you
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No. No, you didn’t. His post remains the same
You just replied with something different, underneath his post.
posted on 11/12/21
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
I thought that any half decent manager would get a tune out of this squad rather than the PE teacher
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My thoughts exactly
posted on 11/12/21
Been saying all along. Ole came in, was a breath of fresh air.
Longer he went on and more money that was spent we seemed to be getting into a bigger mess.
And yes it is a much bigger mess. LVG and Jose had money and we needed a rebuild with Ole getting rid of the deadwood.
Ole has left and spend a huge load of money and we need to get rid of the deadwood. The deadwood this time being players worth a lot of money but we will probably get nada.
posted on 11/12/21
comment by RalFred (U19849)
posted 1 minute ago
Been saying all along. Ole came in, was a breath of fresh air.
Longer he went on and more money that was spent we seemed to be getting into a bigger mess.
And yes it is a much bigger mess. LVG and Jose had money and we needed a rebuild with Ole getting rid of the deadwood.
Ole has left and spend a huge load of money and we need to get rid of the deadwood. The deadwood this time being players worth a lot of money but we will probably get nada.
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You mean, rinse and repeat?
posted on 11/12/21
Jones, Mata, Lingard, Matic and Martial are all surplus to requirements.
Not sure Beekers contract is up in the summer as him signing just a two year one would seem odd.
Pogba is the only real anomaly to that list because he does have the talent but I can’t see him being a Ralf player.
As much as I like Cavani he would probably want to be leaving at the end of this season anyway.
posted on 11/12/21
Shift the deadwood and bring in players Ralf needs to implement his style
posted on 11/12/21
Let's have a look at this absolute mess of a squad
GK - DDG/Hendo
RB - Dalot/AWB
CB - Bailly/Varane/Maguire/Lindelof
LB - Shaw/Telles
CM - McT/Fred/Pogba/Beekers/Matic
Attack
- Ronaldo/Cavani/Bruno/Rashers/Sancho/Greenwood/Martial
That's without including some youth and squad players.
If Pogba, Cavani, Matic, Martial and Lingard all left, we'd only really need to address the midfield.
Absolute mess
posted on 11/12/21
That would also be a lot of money saved on wages too.
An rough approximate breakdown from what i've read on sites in the past
Henderson - £100k?
Jones - £80k?
Vdb - £120k?
Pogba - £290k?
Matic - £120k?
Mata - £120k?
Lingard - £75k?
Martial - £250k?
Cavani - £300 - 350k?
So possibly upto around £1.5 million a week saved on wages on these lot.
It's astonishing how much money we've wasted on some average players in this list over the years.
Still a couple of useful players in this list, but for what we're paying it's madness if they're not regulars.
posted on 11/12/21
If Martial wants yo go we should try and get Aubameyang.
posted on 11/12/21
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - It's Beekers... (U2958)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
Let's have a look at this absolute mess of a squad
GK - DDG/Hendo
RB - Dalot/AWB
CB - Bailly/Varane/Maguire/Lindelof
LB - Shaw/Telles
CM - McT/Fred/Pogba/Beekers/Matic
Attack
- Ronaldo/Cavani/Bruno/Rashers/Sancho/Greenwood/Martial
That's without including some youth and squad players.
If Pogba, Cavani, Matic, Martial and Lingard all left, we'd only really need to address the midfield.
Absolute mess
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Which is what we've needed since SAF days if we're honest.
And let's not forget we've been spending money on likes of amad etc and not played them.
4/500m spent and problems not rectified. So we've been static and now need another rebuild
posted on 11/12/21
Do you understand what rebuild means?
It’s generally not needing a couple of CMs if other CMs leave
posted on 11/12/21
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - It's Beekers... (U2958)
posted 5 minutes ago
Do you understand what rebuild means?
It’s generally not needing a couple of CMs if other CMs leave
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We need a rebuild. MF, possibly a couple of defenders and striker/s .
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