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Silverstone Hamilton should never got a penalty. He only got a penalty as Horner was complaining. They gace Hamilton a penalty as he missed the apex for a corner lol. Hamilton stayed on the track. According to the rules Hamilton should never have got a penalty for Verstappen turning into him. Hamilton got no penalty when Leclerc was in same position at the end of the race as Leclerc was smart. He knew Hamilton was gonna take the lead and backed out of it.
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Just on this then…first lap in Abu Dhabi, Max takes the inside line, hits the apex, keeps the car on the track……Hamilton, to use your words “turns into him”, and goes off track.
If there was thing wrong with it at Silverstone, when Hamilton didn’t even hit the apex, there’s surely nothing wrong with it at Abu Dhabi……you are saying different unsurprisingly
Saving grace for Hamilton was, at that corner there was a run off area, which he actually used to his advantage to not only keep but increase his lead…if that was a gravel trap, and Hamilton’s race ended at that point, I’m pretty sure you would have had plenty to say about it…..but your defence of what happened at Silverstone would completely contradict any argument you had in that case.
Max is champion mate
It’s done
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Max one of 4 champions under the age of 25.
Easy question, who are the other 3?
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Lewis and Seb are at least two of them
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Max was blamed for the first lap as he dive bombed.
Tsunoda got a penalty for hitting the apex in Brazil first corner as the driver ahead didn’t see them coming. If Hamilton had steered in, Verstappen would have got a penalty so that is why he had to give place back.
Oh well I think I am done with F1. No point watching anymore. You invest so much time into watching it and now you realise it is fixed.
Mercedes have just withdrawn their appeal and congratulated Max on his world championship
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Well Tsunoda hit the apex in Brazil and got a penalty. Same race Verstappen from behind went completely wide by a few metres and kept position with no penalty lol.
So why did Hamilton get a penalty for Silverstone then when he made the corner?
The F1 penalties mean in football terms, you are allowed to throw punches at opposition players or throw kung fu kicks at them but if they dodge them you get no card against you. If someone tackles the ball cleanly like yesterday in game against Arsenal you get a ref card and penalty against you. I know it was a 2nd yellow but you get my point.
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So why did Hamilton get a penalty for Silverstone then when he made the corner?
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Didn’t hit apex…deliberately
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Oh well. Verstappen title will forever be know as the one gifted by Masi. I just hope Karma gets them next year.
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There is no rule to hitting the apex. No one actually hits that apex usually and You think Hamilton who was nearly forced into the wall is gonna hit the apex on a tight line with massive speed? He still made the corner and if Max did what Leclerc did there would have been no crash.
Max crashing Hamilton deliberately in Monza and nearly killing him due to his fury at Red Bull pit stop probed crucial in the end. He knew if Hamilton was in front he would lose that raceZ
Proved. Anyway I am done. Lost all respect to F1 now. Hamilton also lost the 2007 championship as they allowed cars that were classified illegal to finish ahead of him in the race.
Yeah, it will be hard to watch F1 ever again but I will try for Hamilton sake. I now expect Hamilton to have to beat the race directors to win a championship. That explains why they made so many wrong decisions in favour of Max all season.
I will backtrack saying I am done as I will continue to watch as a Hamilton fan but now I know its not just the drivers that win.
Tsunoda penalty at Brazil…..he’s trying to overtake Stroll on the inside when there was clearly no room to do so
Hamilton penalty at Silverstone…..overtaking manoeuvre again, deliberately doesn’t hit the apex, understeers out towards Verstappen and they touch.
Verstappen at Brazil….personally think it was and should have been a penalty wa…..but the only key difference between it and the other examples you are using as some form of incrimination.,,,.is that it was not an overtaking manoeuvre by Verstappen, he was in the lead and ran wide with Hamilton outside of him
You can’t use drivers backing out of things as excuses
If Hamilton hadn’t backed out of a number of things, maybe Max would have got more penalties and the outcome of the championship would have been different
Hamilton backed out of passing Max in Saudi Arabia and it caused the whole brake testing incident
When Hamilton did overtake Verstappen, he did exactly what Verstappen did to him in Brazil, ran wide while in the lead and got no penalty for it
Hamilton was in the lead. He was like 1 meter ahead.
Both drivers were on another level to the rest of the field though. Insane pace levels. Even Max said it after winning that he was like getting a physical work out nearly every race all season due to having to push near flat-out every race.
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comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 1 minute ago
Silverstone Hamilton should never got a penalty. He only got a penalty as Horner was complaining. They gace Hamilton a penalty as he missed the apex for a corner lol. Hamilton stayed on the track. According to the rules Hamilton should never have got a penalty for Verstappen turning into him. Hamilton got no penalty when Leclerc was in same position at the end of the race as Leclerc was smart. He knew Hamilton was gonna take the lead and backed out of it.
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Just on this then…first lap in Abu Dhabi, Max takes the inside line, hits the apex, keeps the car on the track……Hamilton, to use your words “turns into him”, and goes off track.
If there was thing wrong with it at Silverstone, when Hamilton didn’t even hit the apex, there’s surely nothing wrong with it at Abu Dhabi……you are saying different unsurprisingly
Saving grace for Hamilton was, at that corner there was a run off area, which he actually used to his advantage to not only keep but increase his lead…if that was a gravel trap, and Hamilton’s race ended at that point, I’m pretty sure you would have had plenty to say about it…..but your defence of what happened at Silverstone would completely contradict any argument you had in that case.
Max is champion mate
It’s done
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comment by Michael, this isn't right. 😠(U10408)
posted 26 seconds ago
Max one of 4 champions under the age of 25.
Easy question, who are the other 3?
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Lewis and Seb are at least two of them
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Max was blamed for the first lap as he dive bombed.
Tsunoda got a penalty for hitting the apex in Brazil first corner as the driver ahead didn’t see them coming. If Hamilton had steered in, Verstappen would have got a penalty so that is why he had to give place back.
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Oh well I think I am done with F1. No point watching anymore. You invest so much time into watching it and now you realise it is fixed.
posted on 16/12/21
Mercedes have just withdrawn their appeal and congratulated Max on his world championship
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Well Tsunoda hit the apex in Brazil and got a penalty. Same race Verstappen from behind went completely wide by a few metres and kept position with no penalty lol.
posted on 16/12/21
So why did Hamilton get a penalty for Silverstone then when he made the corner?
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The F1 penalties mean in football terms, you are allowed to throw punches at opposition players or throw kung fu kicks at them but if they dodge them you get no card against you. If someone tackles the ball cleanly like yesterday in game against Arsenal you get a ref card and penalty against you. I know it was a 2nd yellow but you get my point.
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comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 1 minute ago
So why did Hamilton get a penalty for Silverstone then when he made the corner?
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Didn’t hit apex…deliberately
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Red*
Oh well. Verstappen title will forever be know as the one gifted by Masi. I just hope Karma gets them next year.
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There is no rule to hitting the apex. No one actually hits that apex usually and You think Hamilton who was nearly forced into the wall is gonna hit the apex on a tight line with massive speed? He still made the corner and if Max did what Leclerc did there would have been no crash.
Max crashing Hamilton deliberately in Monza and nearly killing him due to his fury at Red Bull pit stop probed crucial in the end. He knew if Hamilton was in front he would lose that raceZ
posted on 16/12/21
Proved. Anyway I am done. Lost all respect to F1 now. Hamilton also lost the 2007 championship as they allowed cars that were classified illegal to finish ahead of him in the race.
posted on 16/12/21
Yeah, it will be hard to watch F1 ever again but I will try for Hamilton sake. I now expect Hamilton to have to beat the race directors to win a championship. That explains why they made so many wrong decisions in favour of Max all season.
I will backtrack saying I am done as I will continue to watch as a Hamilton fan but now I know its not just the drivers that win.
posted on 16/12/21
Tsunoda penalty at Brazil…..he’s trying to overtake Stroll on the inside when there was clearly no room to do so
Hamilton penalty at Silverstone…..overtaking manoeuvre again, deliberately doesn’t hit the apex, understeers out towards Verstappen and they touch.
Verstappen at Brazil….personally think it was and should have been a penalty wa…..but the only key difference between it and the other examples you are using as some form of incrimination.,,,.is that it was not an overtaking manoeuvre by Verstappen, he was in the lead and ran wide with Hamilton outside of him
You can’t use drivers backing out of things as excuses
If Hamilton hadn’t backed out of a number of things, maybe Max would have got more penalties and the outcome of the championship would have been different
Hamilton backed out of passing Max in Saudi Arabia and it caused the whole brake testing incident
When Hamilton did overtake Verstappen, he did exactly what Verstappen did to him in Brazil, ran wide while in the lead and got no penalty for it
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Hamilton was in the lead. He was like 1 meter ahead.
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Both drivers were on another level to the rest of the field though. Insane pace levels. Even Max said it after winning that he was like getting a physical work out nearly every race all season due to having to push near flat-out every race.
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