Kane is not interested in playing for Spurs either. He will down tools again when the transfer window closes.
Just seen Ali G say Seville are interested in GLC and saw another link say Simone likes him as well. Ndombele has been in talks with PSG and Dele linked to Newcastle and Everton. Clarke could be going out on loan to Sunderland and yday Gil was linked to a few clubs on loan as well.
The biggest problem was getting rid of the deadwood but there seems to be some light at the end of tunnel.
With the emergence of Stevie B, Conte has him, Son, Kane and Moura as attacking options and possibly Adama?
I have seen some links to McKennie, Widjaldum as well as Kessie(who looks to be staying for now) for the midfield spots.
Haven't seen any names linked defence or attack.
Ali G saying a RB, midfielder and if possible a striker before the window closes.
There is certainly more knowledgeable input into our transfers now.
Conte is strongly opinionated _Nuno, i doubt it, and Poch before him seemed passive.
Paratici is over seeing it all now and is another layer of knowledge & oversight with experience
Hitchen & others are the guys on the ground doing the digging. We also recently secured a new scout from Chelsea's senior scouting team
I think it is an area we all know needed some work and it is happening. It is a very difficult area to get right, especially when you are not backed by the wealth of a nation and have to find top quality & some value.
NDombele seemed like that sort of buy, where he is shown himself to be talented, still young and able to get better, so ticks a lot of boxes. It was a bit of a coup when we got him. We didnt know he lacked any sort of hunger and maybe the bumper wage deal he got (which is probably why we got him and others didnt) has contributed to his desire to succeed.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
There is certainly more knowledgeable input into our transfers now.
Conte is strongly opinionated _Nuno, i doubt it, and Poch before him seemed passive.
Paratici is over seeing it all now and is another layer of knowledge & oversight with experience
Hitchen & others are the guys on the ground doing the digging. We also recently secured a new scout from Chelsea's senior scouting team
I think it is an area we all know needed some work and it is happening. It is a very difficult area to get right, especially when you are not backed by the wealth of a nation and have to find top quality & some value.
NDombele seemed like that sort of buy, where he is shown himself to be talented, still young and able to get better, so ticks a lot of boxes. It was a bit of a coup when we got him. We didnt know he lacked any sort of hunger and maybe the bumper wage deal he got (which is probably why we got him and others didnt) has contributed to his desire to succeed.
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Makes sense, glad there's an overhaul but sadly this will take at least 3 windows to bear fruit. Will Conte and fans be patient?
We should simply track Ajax and Dortmund scouts and shortlists. They seem to be more of our level in terms technical aspirations on and off the pitch.
If Conte and Paratici can sprinkle some magic then great but its a big ask.
I'll always give Paratici credit for securing Romero. Serie A defender of the year. Technically we had no right to get him ahead of Juve, Milan or Barcelona who I belive could have all done with him in their first team.
I would hardly call what bergwin done last week an 'emergence" he's like most of spurs players of the last 30 odd years a 6/7 out of 10 player the majority of the time....sometimes capable of 10/10 once every so often.
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Lo Celso and Ndombele signings have led to the downfall of our team. Both more than good enough to start and improve us, but dont/wont apply themselves through mentality/injuries
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 47 seconds ago
Lo Celso and Ndombele signings have led to the downfall of our team. Both more than good enough to start and improve us, but dont/wont apply themselves through mentality/injuries
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The first signing we made before those two was Jack Clarke who was then loaned straight back to Leeds. In hindsight alarms bells should have started ringing.
We waited two windows for a signing, made one and loaned him out for a year. Fast forward a few years and he could be going to Sunderland on loan.
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Just read Juve are entering talks with Vlahovic. Great
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comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 2 minutes ago
Lo Celso and Ndombele signings have led to the downfall of our team. Both more than good enough to start and improve us, but dont/wont apply themselves through mentality/injuries
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The damage started during the summer of 2018 when we signed nobody. What top club, when it has just finished 3rd and has a strong core of players but is evidently going a bit stale and needs freshening up to go again, doesn’t sign a single player? As many of us predicted at the time, that window would come back to haunt us big time.
Remove the CL run from your mind. The 2018/19 season that followed that window was a facking disaster for us because, as predicted, the team succumbed to the lack of depth and quality additions and fell off a cliff. We ran on the fumes of the previous season til Xmas, keeping pace with City and Liverpool, but then a few injuries to Kane, Lloris, Son going away etc and we had less left than Ian Beale and our league form which had been so consistent for the previous 3 seasons went to rack and ruin.
By the time we got round to making some signings in the summer of 2019 several key figures had literally or effectively checked out such Dele, Dembele, Eriksen, Vertonghen and Poch himself. We were done, and rather than regenerating a good team we’d lost it altogether and had to start from scratch inducing replacing the coach which left Levy, after 5 years of stability, flapping around like a fish out of water making one catastrophic decision after another.
Summer 2018, a facking disaster.
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Spot on agree with all of that. The worrying thing for me is they still appear utterly clueless how to regenerate this squad. Bad decision after bad decision millions thrown down the drain. The old boys network you mention runs right to the top of the club its very stale with Levy's mates all in key positions including Paratici. Even the appointment of Conte doesnt make much sense as hes on a short term deal and is clearly already fed up with his lot. The direction of the club seems to be hope and pray Conte sorts the whole mess out in 12 months. Very odd
Old boys network. David Pleat is still employed by the club. No doubt he has Levy's ear too.
Feels like we are scrambling around for the best deals, not the best players again. We never learn.
I think that alot of our supporters are at tipping point.
If Conte walks because he hasn't been backed then things will turn very toxic at a half full new WHL.
There is no way Spurs folk will pay the extortionate prices to watch if a quality manager like we currently have isn't backed.
Maybe I'm overthinking it but I wonder if yesterday's very strange team selection was Conte showing Levy what a pile of crap he has to work with.
Davies, Doherty and Tanganga shouldn't be anywhere near the starting 11 against Chelsea.
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
Who’s Hitchen?
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A small town outside Stevenage.
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
Who’s Hitchen?
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A small town outside Stevenage.
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comment by junction8 (U1074)
posted 5 minutes ago
I would hardly call what bergwin done last week an 'emergence" he's like most of spurs players of the last 30 odd years a 6/7 out of 10 player the majority of the time....sometimes capable of 10/10 once every so often.
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It could be a defining game for him. He played well as well yesterday. With more game time from now on he might go on to be the signing we thought we were getting. Or he might not. I think I have more faith in him coming good now than some of the other recent signings though.
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 2 minutes ago
Lo Celso and Ndombele signings have led to the downfall of our team. Both more than good enough to start and improve us, but dont/wont apply themselves through mentality/injuries
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The damage started during the summer of 2018 when we signed nobody. What top club, when it has just finished 3rd and has a strong core of players but is evidently going a bit stale and needs freshening up to go again, doesn’t sign a single player? As many of us predicted at the time, that window would come back to haunt us big time.
Remove the CL run from your mind. The 2018/19 season that followed that window was a facking disaster for us because, as predicted, the team succumbed to the lack of depth and quality additions and fell off a cliff. We ran on the fumes of the previous season til Xmas, keeping pace with City and Liverpool, but then a few injuries to Kane, Lloris, Son going away etc and we had less left than Ian Beale and our league form which had been so consistent for the previous 3 seasons went to rack and ruin.
By the time we got round to making some signings in the summer of 2019 several key figures had literally or effectively checked out such Dele, Dembele, Eriksen, Vertonghen and Poch himself. We were done, and rather than regenerating a good team we’d lost it altogether and had to start from scratch inducing replacing the coach which left Levy, after 5 years of stability, flapping around like a fish out of water making one catastrophic decision after another.
Summer 2018, a facking disaster.
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yes no signings summer followed by very poor/unfortunate recruitment summer, has set us back years and years.
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
Who’s Hitchen?
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A small town outside Stevenage.
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no thats Hitchin
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
Lo Celso and Ndombele signings have led to the downfall of our team. Both more than good enough to start and improve us, but dont/wont apply themselves through mentality/injuries
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Both have been complete flops in the area that Spurs are most short in. They were purchased to compensate for the loss of Eriksen, but neither have done SFA, and it has set Spurs back.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by junction8 (U1074)
posted 5 minutes ago
I would hardly call what bergwin done last week an 'emergence" he's like most of spurs players of the last 30 odd years a 6/7 out of 10 player the majority of the time....sometimes capable of 10/10 once every so often.
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It could be a defining game for him. He played well as well yesterday. With more game time from now on he might go on to be the signing we thought we were getting. Or he might not. I think I have more faith in him coming good now than some of the other recent signings though.
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He has had a couple of decent games, but like a lot of our players, they never follow that up with a sustained spell of 8/10 games, they all seem to drop back to 5/10 very quickly. Hopefully he may have turned a corner, and Spurs certainly need some of the players to do that, because it is pretty obvious very few, if any are coming in, and not a lot, if any are going to be shipped out.
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
Lo Celso and Ndombele signings have led to the downfall of our team. Both more than good enough to start and improve us, but dont/wont apply themselves through mentality/injuries
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Both have been complete flops in the area that Spurs are most short in. They were purchased to compensate for the loss of Eriksen, but neither have done SFA, and it has set Spurs back.
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Eriksen and Dembele two most important players, replaced with two of our most expensive signings utter let downs too.
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posted on 24/1/22
Kane is not interested in playing for Spurs either. He will down tools again when the transfer window closes.
posted on 24/1/22
Just seen Ali G say Seville are interested in GLC and saw another link say Simone likes him as well. Ndombele has been in talks with PSG and Dele linked to Newcastle and Everton. Clarke could be going out on loan to Sunderland and yday Gil was linked to a few clubs on loan as well.
The biggest problem was getting rid of the deadwood but there seems to be some light at the end of tunnel.
With the emergence of Stevie B, Conte has him, Son, Kane and Moura as attacking options and possibly Adama?
I have seen some links to McKennie, Widjaldum as well as Kessie(who looks to be staying for now) for the midfield spots.
Haven't seen any names linked defence or attack.
Ali G saying a RB, midfielder and if possible a striker before the window closes.
posted on 24/1/22
Who’s Hitchen?
posted on 24/1/22
There is certainly more knowledgeable input into our transfers now.
Conte is strongly opinionated _Nuno, i doubt it, and Poch before him seemed passive.
Paratici is over seeing it all now and is another layer of knowledge & oversight with experience
Hitchen & others are the guys on the ground doing the digging. We also recently secured a new scout from Chelsea's senior scouting team
I think it is an area we all know needed some work and it is happening. It is a very difficult area to get right, especially when you are not backed by the wealth of a nation and have to find top quality & some value.
NDombele seemed like that sort of buy, where he is shown himself to be talented, still young and able to get better, so ticks a lot of boxes. It was a bit of a coup when we got him. We didnt know he lacked any sort of hunger and maybe the bumper wage deal he got (which is probably why we got him and others didnt) has contributed to his desire to succeed.
posted on 24/1/22
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
There is certainly more knowledgeable input into our transfers now.
Conte is strongly opinionated _Nuno, i doubt it, and Poch before him seemed passive.
Paratici is over seeing it all now and is another layer of knowledge & oversight with experience
Hitchen & others are the guys on the ground doing the digging. We also recently secured a new scout from Chelsea's senior scouting team
I think it is an area we all know needed some work and it is happening. It is a very difficult area to get right, especially when you are not backed by the wealth of a nation and have to find top quality & some value.
NDombele seemed like that sort of buy, where he is shown himself to be talented, still young and able to get better, so ticks a lot of boxes. It was a bit of a coup when we got him. We didnt know he lacked any sort of hunger and maybe the bumper wage deal he got (which is probably why we got him and others didnt) has contributed to his desire to succeed.
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Makes sense, glad there's an overhaul but sadly this will take at least 3 windows to bear fruit. Will Conte and fans be patient?
posted on 24/1/22
We should simply track Ajax and Dortmund scouts and shortlists. They seem to be more of our level in terms technical aspirations on and off the pitch.
If Conte and Paratici can sprinkle some magic then great but its a big ask.
I'll always give Paratici credit for securing Romero. Serie A defender of the year. Technically we had no right to get him ahead of Juve, Milan or Barcelona who I belive could have all done with him in their first team.
posted on 24/1/22
I would hardly call what bergwin done last week an 'emergence" he's like most of spurs players of the last 30 odd years a 6/7 out of 10 player the majority of the time....sometimes capable of 10/10 once every so often.
posted on 24/1/22
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posted on 24/1/22
Lo Celso and Ndombele signings have led to the downfall of our team. Both more than good enough to start and improve us, but dont/wont apply themselves through mentality/injuries
posted on 24/1/22
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 47 seconds ago
Lo Celso and Ndombele signings have led to the downfall of our team. Both more than good enough to start and improve us, but dont/wont apply themselves through mentality/injuries
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The first signing we made before those two was Jack Clarke who was then loaned straight back to Leeds. In hindsight alarms bells should have started ringing.
We waited two windows for a signing, made one and loaned him out for a year. Fast forward a few years and he could be going to Sunderland on loan.
posted on 24/1/22
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posted on 24/1/22
Just read Juve are entering talks with Vlahovic. Great
posted on 24/1/22
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posted on 24/1/22
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 2 minutes ago
Lo Celso and Ndombele signings have led to the downfall of our team. Both more than good enough to start and improve us, but dont/wont apply themselves through mentality/injuries
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The damage started during the summer of 2018 when we signed nobody. What top club, when it has just finished 3rd and has a strong core of players but is evidently going a bit stale and needs freshening up to go again, doesn’t sign a single player? As many of us predicted at the time, that window would come back to haunt us big time.
Remove the CL run from your mind. The 2018/19 season that followed that window was a facking disaster for us because, as predicted, the team succumbed to the lack of depth and quality additions and fell off a cliff. We ran on the fumes of the previous season til Xmas, keeping pace with City and Liverpool, but then a few injuries to Kane, Lloris, Son going away etc and we had less left than Ian Beale and our league form which had been so consistent for the previous 3 seasons went to rack and ruin.
By the time we got round to making some signings in the summer of 2019 several key figures had literally or effectively checked out such Dele, Dembele, Eriksen, Vertonghen and Poch himself. We were done, and rather than regenerating a good team we’d lost it altogether and had to start from scratch inducing replacing the coach which left Levy, after 5 years of stability, flapping around like a fish out of water making one catastrophic decision after another.
Summer 2018, a facking disaster.
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Spot on agree with all of that. The worrying thing for me is they still appear utterly clueless how to regenerate this squad. Bad decision after bad decision millions thrown down the drain. The old boys network you mention runs right to the top of the club its very stale with Levy's mates all in key positions including Paratici. Even the appointment of Conte doesnt make much sense as hes on a short term deal and is clearly already fed up with his lot. The direction of the club seems to be hope and pray Conte sorts the whole mess out in 12 months. Very odd
posted on 24/1/22
Old boys network. David Pleat is still employed by the club. No doubt he has Levy's ear too.
posted on 24/1/22
Feels like we are scrambling around for the best deals, not the best players again. We never learn.
posted on 24/1/22
I think that alot of our supporters are at tipping point.
If Conte walks because he hasn't been backed then things will turn very toxic at a half full new WHL.
There is no way Spurs folk will pay the extortionate prices to watch if a quality manager like we currently have isn't backed.
Maybe I'm overthinking it but I wonder if yesterday's very strange team selection was Conte showing Levy what a pile of crap he has to work with.
Davies, Doherty and Tanganga shouldn't be anywhere near the starting 11 against Chelsea.
posted on 24/1/22
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
Who’s Hitchen?
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A small town outside Stevenage.
posted on 24/1/22
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
Who’s Hitchen?
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A small town outside Stevenage.
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posted on 24/1/22
comment by junction8 (U1074)
posted 5 minutes ago
I would hardly call what bergwin done last week an 'emergence" he's like most of spurs players of the last 30 odd years a 6/7 out of 10 player the majority of the time....sometimes capable of 10/10 once every so often.
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It could be a defining game for him. He played well as well yesterday. With more game time from now on he might go on to be the signing we thought we were getting. Or he might not. I think I have more faith in him coming good now than some of the other recent signings though.
posted on 24/1/22
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 2 minutes ago
Lo Celso and Ndombele signings have led to the downfall of our team. Both more than good enough to start and improve us, but dont/wont apply themselves through mentality/injuries
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The damage started during the summer of 2018 when we signed nobody. What top club, when it has just finished 3rd and has a strong core of players but is evidently going a bit stale and needs freshening up to go again, doesn’t sign a single player? As many of us predicted at the time, that window would come back to haunt us big time.
Remove the CL run from your mind. The 2018/19 season that followed that window was a facking disaster for us because, as predicted, the team succumbed to the lack of depth and quality additions and fell off a cliff. We ran on the fumes of the previous season til Xmas, keeping pace with City and Liverpool, but then a few injuries to Kane, Lloris, Son going away etc and we had less left than Ian Beale and our league form which had been so consistent for the previous 3 seasons went to rack and ruin.
By the time we got round to making some signings in the summer of 2019 several key figures had literally or effectively checked out such Dele, Dembele, Eriksen, Vertonghen and Poch himself. We were done, and rather than regenerating a good team we’d lost it altogether and had to start from scratch inducing replacing the coach which left Levy, after 5 years of stability, flapping around like a fish out of water making one catastrophic decision after another.
Summer 2018, a facking disaster.
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yes no signings summer followed by very poor/unfortunate recruitment summer, has set us back years and years.
posted on 24/1/22
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
Who’s Hitchen?
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A small town outside Stevenage.
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no thats Hitchin
posted on 24/1/22
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
Lo Celso and Ndombele signings have led to the downfall of our team. Both more than good enough to start and improve us, but dont/wont apply themselves through mentality/injuries
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Both have been complete flops in the area that Spurs are most short in. They were purchased to compensate for the loss of Eriksen, but neither have done SFA, and it has set Spurs back.
posted on 24/1/22
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by junction8 (U1074)
posted 5 minutes ago
I would hardly call what bergwin done last week an 'emergence" he's like most of spurs players of the last 30 odd years a 6/7 out of 10 player the majority of the time....sometimes capable of 10/10 once every so often.
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It could be a defining game for him. He played well as well yesterday. With more game time from now on he might go on to be the signing we thought we were getting. Or he might not. I think I have more faith in him coming good now than some of the other recent signings though.
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He has had a couple of decent games, but like a lot of our players, they never follow that up with a sustained spell of 8/10 games, they all seem to drop back to 5/10 very quickly. Hopefully he may have turned a corner, and Spurs certainly need some of the players to do that, because it is pretty obvious very few, if any are coming in, and not a lot, if any are going to be shipped out.
posted on 24/1/22
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
Lo Celso and Ndombele signings have led to the downfall of our team. Both more than good enough to start and improve us, but dont/wont apply themselves through mentality/injuries
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Both have been complete flops in the area that Spurs are most short in. They were purchased to compensate for the loss of Eriksen, but neither have done SFA, and it has set Spurs back.
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Eriksen and Dembele two most important players, replaced with two of our most expensive signings utter let downs too.
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