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posted on 1/2/22

This has to be a minimal window for Conte.
Look at all the signings we didn't get....
Traore to Barca
Luis Diaz to Pool
Guimaraes... to Newcastle
and half a dozen others.
Down to day 31 final hours we come up with two players Juve no longer want.
If these were the players Conte wanted.....answer me this...
why did it take so long?
TRIFFFIC!!! .
Look at what Levy wound up with:
One has been out on loan ever since he was at Juve.
The other is a halfway decent midfielder who might be useful. Once played for Boca Juniors.
Is this what Conte needs to make top four?
I have my doubts.
But...at this stage I will say.......wait and see.....
and hope Antonio just doesn't faaack off and leave ENIC where it belongs...in the shiiiit.



comment by Mack (U6574)

posted on 1/2/22

comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 1 minute ago
This has to be a minimal window for Conte.
Look at all the signings we didn't get....
Traore to Barca
Luis Diaz to Pool
Guimaraes... to Newcastle
and half a dozen others.
Down to day 31 final hours we come up with two players Juve no longer want.
If these were the players Conte wanted.....answer me this...
why did it take so long?
TRIFFFIC!!!.
Look at what Levy wound up with:
One has been out on loan ever since he was at Juve.
The other is a halfway decent midfielder who might be useful. Once played for Boca Juniors.
Is this what Conte needs to make top four?
I have my doubts.
But...at this stage I will say.......wait and see.....
and hope Antonio just doesn't faaack off and leave ENIC where it belongs...in the shiiiit.




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I cants stand levy and Enic but

Troure is a Barca fan. He was never gonna come here
Liverpool are a bigger club than us right now and can garruntee champs league, so Diaz was never gonna come to us
If conte wanted the Newcastle fella, I think we would have got him

comment by Hengy (U9129)

posted on 1/2/22

As for Ndombele high buy out fee it’s just the club protecting themselves after getting burnt on the foyth sale.

After a great season on loan he was worth more than what the fee we agreed and we lost out.

We don’t want a situation like what happened with Lo celso & Romaro where the on loan club buys cheaply to flip the player straight away for a huge profit.

posted on 1/2/22

comment by What a Conte (U8366)
posted 35 minutes ago
4/10 for me. Think we have got the priorities completely wrong once again - winger should never have been on the list and CM needed to be a more dynamic player so think we’ve got that wrong too. I just think the message we send with getting rid of all our creativity just doesn’t sit right with me, regardless of whether or not they were playing.

What our top 4 rivals do shouldn’t matter - we have our own situation to focus on and each situation is different.
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I think we have gone for substance over style.

You talk about losing creativity but these are the PL stats of those gone:

NDombele - 63 appearances. 6 goals 5 assists

GLC - 55 Appearances. 1 goal. 3 assists.

Even Bentacur as a DM has a better output than these 2 have managed at Spurs (11 assists over last 2 seasons).

I do not see us as losing that much creativity, especially from a midfield 2 who really do not fit the system.

posted on 1/2/22

comment by Citizen Smeg. Hope anyone but City win it (U6574)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 1 minute ago
This has to be a minimal window for Conte.
Look at all the signings we didn't get....
Traore to Barca
Luis Diaz to Pool
Guimaraes... to Newcastle
and half a dozen others.
Down to day 31 final hours we come up with two players Juve no longer want.
If these were the players Conte wanted.....answer me this...
why did it take so long?
TRIFFFIC!!!.
Look at what Levy wound up with:
One has been out on loan ever since he was at Juve.
The other is a halfway decent midfielder who might be useful. Once played for Boca Juniors.
Is this what Conte needs to make top four?
I have my doubts.
But...at this stage I will say.......wait and see.....
and hope Antonio just doesn't faaack off and leave ENIC where it belongs...in the shiiiit.




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I cants stand levy and Enic but

Troure is a Barca fan. He was never gonna come here
Liverpool are a bigger club than us right now and can garruntee champs league, so Diaz was never gonna come to us
If conte wanted the Newcastle fella, I think we would have got him


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Well all of that is excuses..we were after those guys...had them "signed up", Levy style.
We now have a weak back four, no additions...so you put up with Sanchez and Tanganga.
The RWB Conte wanted hasn't arrived, (that was Traore) so we are stuck wityh Emerson or Doherty.
Son is injured.
Kane had Bergwijn as backup...hope that works.
Betancur seems like a good import.
Kulusevski is more of a doubt, never actually played for Juve, out on loan at two clubs.
Really don't think this was what Conte was asking for.
We'll see what happens next.
But top four?

posted on 1/2/22

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by What a Conte (U8366)
posted 35 minutes ago
4/10 for me. Think we have got the priorities completely wrong once again - winger should never have been on the list and CM needed to be a more dynamic player so think we’ve got that wrong too. I just think the message we send with getting rid of all our creativity just doesn’t sit right with me, regardless of whether or not they were playing.

What our top 4 rivals do shouldn’t matter - we have our own situation to focus on and each situation is different.
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I think we have gone for substance over style.

You talk about losing creativity but these are the PL stats of those gone:

NDombele - 63 appearances. 6 goals 5 assists

GLC - 55 Appearances. 1 goal. 3 assists.

Even Bentacur as a DM has a better output than these 2 have managed at Spurs (11 assists over last 2 seasons).

I do not see us as losing that much creativity, especially from a midfield 2 who really do not fit the system.
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Didn't get much substance either.
Two players when we needed four?

posted on 1/2/22

Can we stop with this " 2 Juve rejects" BS.

Both players have played a big part in Juve's last 2 seasons - Each 19/20 appearances this season, and 33/35 last season. People wouldnt describe Diaz as a Porto reject !

comment by Phenom (U20037)

posted on 1/2/22

Kulu will be like Eriksen for us but more physical

Bentancur will be a hybrid of Modric and Dembele

posted on 1/2/22

My main concern is the longevity of Conte. It looks like we're backing him and moulding a squad for 343, which is great. But it's quite an usual formation and style he has. I'd be gutted if we got the squad in his image and he left summer 2023! Hopefully though he sees us as worth hanging around with.

posted on 1/2/22

comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by What a Conte (U8366)
posted 35 minutes ago
4/10 for me. Think we have got the priorities completely wrong once again - winger should never have been on the list and CM needed to be a more dynamic player so think we’ve got that wrong too. I just think the message we send with getting rid of all our creativity just doesn’t sit right with me, regardless of whether or not they were playing.

What our top 4 rivals do shouldn’t matter - we have our own situation to focus on and each situation is different.
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I think we have gone for substance over style.

You talk about losing creativity but these are the PL stats of those gone:

NDombele - 63 appearances. 6 goals 5 assists

GLC - 55 Appearances. 1 goal. 3 assists.

Even Bentacur as a DM has a better output than these 2 have managed at Spurs (11 assists over last 2 seasons).

I do not see us as losing that much creativity, especially from a midfield 2 who really do not fit the system.
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Didn't get much substance either.
Two players when we needed four?
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Patience mate. It cannot all be done in one January window

comment by Phenom (U20037)

posted on 1/2/22

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 35 seconds ago
Can we stop with this " 2 Juve rejects" BS.

Both players have played a big part in Juve's last 2 seasons - Each 19/20 appearances this season, and 33/35 last season. People wouldnt describe Diaz as a Porto reject !
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yep. Bentancur was pretty pivotal to Sari's title winning team

posted on 1/2/22

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 47 seconds ago
Can we stop with this " 2 Juve rejects" BS.

Both players have played a big part in Juve's last 2 seasons - Each 19/20 appearances this season, and 33/35 last season. People wouldnt describe Diaz as a Porto reject !
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Not true. Kulusevskii was out on loan at two clubs.
Betancur is a better prospect.
But these two last second imports are nowhere near enough to put us in contention for top four.

posted on 1/2/22

comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 14 seconds ago
Kulu will be like Eriksen for us but more physical

Bentancur will be a hybrid of Modric and Dembele
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Fack me mate thats pretty optimistic

Fingers crossed

posted on 1/2/22

comment by King of the Gil (U7905)
posted 15 seconds ago
My main concern is the longevity of Conte. It looks like we're backing him and moulding a squad for 343, which is great. But it's quite an usual formation and style he has. I'd be gutted if we got the squad in his image and he left summer 2023! Hopefully though he sees us as worth hanging around with.
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I'd agree with this and its a thought that has crossed my mind too.

The squad is quite easily adapted to change from a 343 to a 433 should we change manager/approach.

posted on 1/2/22

comment by King of the Gil (U7905)
posted 3 minutes ago
My main concern is the longevity of Conte. It looks like we're backing him and moulding a squad for 343, which is great. But it's quite an usual formation and style he has. I'd be gutted if we got the squad in his image and he left summer 2023! Hopefully though he sees us as worth hanging around with.
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THAT is the real problem.!!! <>ok>

posted on 1/2/22

I think this has been a good window and would agree it's a good stage 1.

What I want to see happen now is Paratici and Levy work on summer targets in the background from now and be in a place to wrap them up early in the next transfer window - will that happen? Who knows.

posted on 1/2/22

comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 47 seconds ago
Can we stop with this " 2 Juve rejects" BS.

Both players have played a big part in Juve's last 2 seasons - Each 19/20 appearances this season, and 33/35 last season. People wouldnt describe Diaz as a Porto reject !
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Not true. Kulusevskii was out on loan at two clubs.
Betancur is a better prospect.
But these two last second imports are nowhere near enough to put us in contention for top four.

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Kulusevski was on loan to Parma in the 19/20 season

He returned to Juve for last season (20/21), making 47 total appearances and this season (21/22) he has made 27 appearances.

FACT CHECKED™

posted on 1/2/22

Assuming no major injuries till the end of the season then we should be fine. The guys that have left might have offered little but at least they were bodies to be counted on and would have contributed. We could be back to square one in the summer though as we will still be stuck with 3 of them if Conte doesn't want them.

Again we could be playing silly games in the last days of the Summer window trying to shift them.

posted on 1/2/22

comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 4 minutes ago
Kulu will be like Eriksen for us but more physical

Bentancur will be a hybrid of Modric and Dembele
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God only knows how you came to this.
Kulusevskii is going to be a bit like Moura.
Betancur could turn out to be a very good midfielder for us much in the mold of Dembele.
But we're stuck with a very weak defence.
And Son is injured.
Top four is a faint possibility.

posted on 1/2/22

What formation and team do we play if these 2 start though ?

posted on 1/2/22

comment by Del Boy (U22000)
posted 1 minute ago
I think this has been a good window and would agree it's a good stage 1.

What I want to see happen now is Paratici and Levy work on summer targets in the background from now and be in a place to wrap them up early in the next transfer window - will that happen? Who knows.
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Alot will depend if we qualify for CL. We move up the food chain a little in terms of being an attractive team to play for.

posted on 1/2/22

comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 6 seconds ago
What formation and team do we play if these 2 start though ?
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That's a good headache for Conte to have. Both will probably start on the bench. Bentancur won't be back until Thursday probably as he us away on international duty.

posted on 1/2/22

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 47 seconds ago
Can we stop with this " 2 Juve rejects" BS.

Both players have played a big part in Juve's last 2 seasons - Each 19/20 appearances this season, and 33/35 last season. People wouldnt describe Diaz as a Porto reject !
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Not true. Kulusevskii was out on loan at two clubs.
Betancur is a better prospect.
But these two last second imports are nowhere near enough to put us in contention for top four.

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Kulusevski was on loan to Parma in the 19/20 season

He returned to Juve for last season (20/21), making 47 total appearances and this season (21/22) he has made 27 appearances.

FACT CHECKED™
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Coming through from the youth system, Kulusevski made his senior debut for Atalanta in 2019, before joining Parma on loan at the beginning of the 2019–20 season. He joined Juventus during the winter transfer window for €35 million, and was sent back to Parma on loan for the rest of the season. In January 2022, Kulusevski was sent on loan to Tottenham Hotspur in England.
Yeah he got to play some games at Juve and then got loaned out to us.
This guy's a loaner!
You'll see.

posted on 1/2/22

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posted on 1/2/22

comment by Spurs-To Dream is to Dare (U12707)
posted 38 seconds ago
Assuming no major injuries till the end of the season then we should be fine. The guys that have left might have offered little but at least they were bodies to be counted on and would have contributed. We could be back to square one in the summer though as we will still be stuck with 3 of them if Conte doesn't want them.

Again we could be playing silly games in the last days of the Summer window trying to shift them.
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I think they have returned to leagues that better suit them and should show form, making a sale easier, to the loan club or another, certainly better than having them spend time on our bench - NDombele has been training alone and GLC didnt make the last 2 squads.

We could make £50m out of them 2 if they do well.

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