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posted on 1/2/22

Gil was a waste of space. Terrible signing who will be back in Spain for a couple of million full time in max 18months.

All of the players you got rid of are a waste of space tbh. Dele on an initial free is madness as well, he's worth something surely, 10m gamble at least.

The two incomings are at least good players but not enough. United and Arsenal are threadbare and they both got weaker.

Time will tell but it would be difficult to get weaker shipping out 4 guys who weren't contributing so you must be stronger if either of these guys are a success. Top 4 favourites imo.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 1/2/22

How good or bad this window is falls mostly on how well these 2 signings do, and as I know very little of them it's hard for me to judge.

For me our best signing this window has been Lloris. We got him a new contract and removed some of the deadwood so that's good. At the same time we missed out on a couple of targets we seemingly came close to, and to my ignorant eyes, may have been collectively better than the ones we actually got.

Maybe a 5.8/10, something like that.

comment by Edbo (U17933)

posted on 1/2/22

People are too eager to make a judgement on a transfer window.

The truth is, nobody really knows how good or bad a transfer window is until the incomings have settled in and shown what they're all about.

Some (most) of our best signings have been initially considered underwhelming over the years.

comment by Mack (U6574)

posted on 1/2/22

comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 1 hour, 34 minutes ago
comment by Citizen Smeg. Hope anyone but City win it (U6574)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 1 minute ago
This has to be a minimal window for Conte.
Look at all the signings we didn't get....
Traore to Barca
Luis Diaz to Pool
Guimaraes... to Newcastle
and half a dozen others.
Down to day 31 final hours we come up with two players Juve no longer want.
If these were the players Conte wanted.....answer me this...
why did it take so long?
TRIFFFIC!!!.
Look at what Levy wound up with:
One has been out on loan ever since he was at Juve.
The other is a halfway decent midfielder who might be useful. Once played for Boca Juniors.
Is this what Conte needs to make top four?
I have my doubts.
But...at this stage I will say.......wait and see.....
and hope Antonio just doesn't faaack off and leave ENIC where it belongs...in the shiiiit.




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I cants stand levy and Enic but

Troure is a Barca fan. He was never gonna come here
Liverpool are a bigger club than us right now and can garruntee champs league, so Diaz was never gonna come to us
If conte wanted the Newcastle fella, I think we would have got him


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Well all of that is excuses..we were after those guys...had them "signed up", Levy style.
We now have a weak back four, no additions...so you put up with Sanchez and Tanganga.
The RWB Conte wanted hasn't arrived, (that was Traore) so we are stuck wityh Emerson or Doherty.
Son is injured.
Kane had Bergwijn as backup...hope that works.
Betancur seems like a good import.
Kulusevski is more of a doubt, never actually played for Juve, out on loan at two clubs.
Really don't think this was what Conte was asking for.
We'll see what happens next.
But top four?

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Unfortunately it is going to take a few windows to undo the damage levy has caused in the last few years.

Letting dele go for free suggests to me that perhaps he has realised how utterly useless he is in the transfer market and has let go of the reins

Time will tell

comment by Chronic (U3423)

posted on 1/2/22

comment by Citizen Smeg. Hope anyone but City win it (U6574)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 1 hour, 34 minutes ago
comment by Citizen Smeg. Hope anyone but City win it (U6574)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 1 minute ago
This has to be a minimal window for Conte.
Look at all the signings we didn't get....
Traore to Barca
Luis Diaz to Pool
Guimaraes... to Newcastle
and half a dozen others.
Down to day 31 final hours we come up with two players Juve no longer want.
If these were the players Conte wanted.....answer me this...
why did it take so long?
TRIFFFIC!!!.
Look at what Levy wound up with:
One has been out on loan ever since he was at Juve.
The other is a halfway decent midfielder who might be useful. Once played for Boca Juniors.
Is this what Conte needs to make top four?
I have my doubts.
But...at this stage I will say.......wait and see.....
and hope Antonio just doesn't faaack off and leave ENIC where it belongs...in the shiiiit.




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I cants stand levy and Enic but

Troure is a Barca fan. He was never gonna come here
Liverpool are a bigger club than us right now and can garruntee champs league, so Diaz was never gonna come to us
If conte wanted the Newcastle fella, I think we would have got him


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Well all of that is excuses..we were after those guys...had them "signed up", Levy style.
We now have a weak back four, no additions...so you put up with Sanchez and Tanganga.
The RWB Conte wanted hasn't arrived, (that was Traore) so we are stuck wityh Emerson or Doherty.
Son is injured.
Kane had Bergwijn as backup...hope that works.
Betancur seems like a good import.
Kulusevski is more of a doubt, never actually played for Juve, out on loan at two clubs.
Really don't think this was what Conte was asking for.
We'll see what happens next.
But top four?

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Unfortunately it is going to take a few windows to undo the damage levy has caused in the last few years.

Letting dele go for free suggests to me that perhaps he has realised how utterly useless he is in the transfer market and has let go of the reins

Time will tell
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only so much one can expect in a Jan transfer window. our top 4 rivals all got weaker or stayed the same

posted on 1/2/22

For me the outgoings albeit loans are good. If we can permanently get rid of wasters like Lo Celso & Ndomebele for good money that's good.

Bentacur seems like an upgrade on Hojberg and I'd rather see him play than Hojberg.

I still think we missed a trick on. CM. We clearly lack creativity in the middle.

Guimareas for Newcastle may prove to be an astute signing. But I think we are scared to go shopping in France again after th like of NJie, Nkoudou, Ndomebele etc.

6/10 or thereabouts.

posted on 1/2/22

Kulusevski is more of a doubt, never actually played for Juve, out on loan at two clubs

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This is wrong.

posted on 1/2/22

The money saved on wages (assuming Lyon & Villarreal are paying 100%) will be massive going into the summer.

I just hope that come summer Lo Celso & Ndombele aren't back failing to get a permanent move and stink the place out again.

Summer is MASSIVE!

posted on 1/2/22

I'd rate our window a 5/10. The players are the right ages and we've got a few out that weren't playing.. but only temporarily. I have no faith that Lyon will actually give us €65m back, however good Ndombele is. We'll still have weeks of nonsense around him and Lo Celso in the summer before we buy anyone. The Gil going to Spain.. we really needed him to go to Palace or something. Meh.

A RWB and a striker would've made more sense with Dele being sold in the summer.

posted on 1/2/22

On the upside its good that we are signing players where we actually know the personalities (Given the relationship with Conte & Paratici).... Hopefully not a repeat of the Ndombele saga. Also these are players who are used to winning and hopefully come with a big club mentality !!!.... Makes a nice change to buying young/ cheap and simply hoping they will come good at Spurs

posted on 1/2/22

I think it was a decent window - we signed two good players (albeit not in priority positions) and started shifting some players in preparation for the summer.

I don’t think it’s quite the same as ‘deadwood’ though, no matter what you think of the players who haven’t worked out we have lost 4 players with huge talent who just haven’t worked out recently. It’s not like people have taken Doherty or Rodon for example.

posted on 1/2/22

I like Betancur as a player, seen him quite a bit for Juve..... Think he can provide the kind of control in MF that Dembele used to. He can do it all, good passer, likes a tackle but is more forward thinking than either Skipp or PEH. I can see him fitting in nicely with PEH & Skipp whether we play 2 or 3. The other lad I dont know much about. I heard he was fantastic at Atalanta & Parma (on loan)... never really got a chance at Juve. I heard yesterday that he can play as both a winger and a 10 so could be interesting if he were to play behind Kane & Son. Most importantly Paratici signed both and I can't believe Conte didn't give both his blessing...... Signs of some joined up thinking

comment by SteveF (U22027)

posted on 1/2/22

The main question here is who has had the best window to get ahead of the rest for that 4th place.

We all know Spurs would be in a much stronger position come the summer when "phase 2" squad building commences, if we can offer CL footie.

So:

Arsenal - sold best CF with no replacement. And no new players in to strengthen the squad anywhere on the pitch.

West Ham - small squad already flagging leading into the window, and signed nothing coming out of the window. Serious problem with striker cover.

Utd - big squad but don't particularly work well together. PE teacher for a coach who is only good at saying the right things in front of the camera. No new additions coming in, but some out ( either transferred or to prison )

Wolves - sold Traore which has weakened their attacking options, and no new signings in.

Then the much criticised Spurs - shifted 3/4 of the deadwood out to complete "phase 1" Both wage bill and attitude in the dressing room much improved. And two new signings, both from a top club. One plays in CM where we actually did need more cover.

So, for me, setting aside all the stupid negative comments from rival fans and bias pundits, of the 4th place contenders it appears Spurs have had by far the best window.

Much more to do in the summer I agree, but compared with the others who all did absolutely nothing to strengthen, Spurs have prepared better for the second half of the season.

comment by Chronic (U3423)

posted on 1/2/22

the media coverage, and the constant punditry dross about spurs this window has annoyed me. usually I just ignore them as I think most of the pundits are idiots, even the ones that were top players. I strongly feel there is an agenda against spurs.

I will tell you who I really cannot stand. those bellends on SSN - dharmesh and kaveh or whatever their names are. absolute caaants. think they are both goooners. one definately is. and they just talk absolute bollox from start to finish.

posted on 1/2/22

comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 39 minutes ago
On the upside its good that we are signing players where we actually know the personalities (Given the relationship with Conte & Paratici).... Hopefully not a repeat of the Ndombele saga. Also these are players who are used to winning and hopefully come with a big club mentality !!!.... Makes a nice change to buying young/ cheap and simply hoping they will come good at Spurs
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Very good points!

posted on 1/2/22

One small negative is that I still dont understand what we are doing re RB. I think we have seen enough of Royal to know he's decent defensively but weak going forward as a WB. Doherty I'm done with !

Surprised we didn't make a move for Spense at Forest having chased Traore all month and lost out. Can't help wondering if the thought process is now if we were gonna try to convert Traore to a WB, perhaps we can do the same with Moura ?

Other than the difference in Muscle they are quite similar.... both quick, both good running with the ball at their feet and both not great when it comes to making the right decision in the final 3rd. Moura always come across as a good "Team Guy" and always puts in a shift/ happy to track back when he plays further forward

Guess it all depends on whether our future is 3 at the back ?.... I like the idea of this team moving forward

*****************Hugo************
*****Royal*******Dier****Romero*****
***Moura***Skipp***Betancur****Reggie****
******************Kulusevski*****************
***********Kane*************Sonny**************

comment by Chronic (U3423)

posted on 1/2/22

yeah we really need to start paying more attention to personalities not just ability.

seems that Gio is am arrogant caaant. so dont sign him if people wont like him

ndombele has the work rate of a lion in the mid day sun. so dont buy him then

comment by Chronic (U3423)

posted on 1/2/22

comment by Chronic (U3423)
posted 0 seconds ago

yeah we really need to start paying more attention to personalities not just ability.

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this may be why we decided against Djed Spence

posted on 1/2/22

4/10

Whilst we've shipped out a few that weren't in the manager's plans, all of them had flair and creativity that, even though they weren't often starting games, provided options from the bench should we be chasing a game. That's four midfielders of that profile leaving us with Skipp, PEH, Winks, Bentancur as our only midfield options. All four are similar in profile. No, guile, no creativity, no chance of changing a game. They're all good at tempo but they can't dictate.

We've signed a player in Kulusevski I don't think we needed. In fact in terms of contribution, we're seeing more from Moura, who he'll be competing with, than anything he's ever done at Juve.

It's a massive, massive gamble. I can see the plan. Sell on, bring in funds, hope we qualify for the CL and use those funds and the CL qualification to lure better players than we were able to source in Jan. I get it. The problem is that I worry we've oversold and shot ourselves in the foot. Even though they weren't really playing much, we're undoubtedly weaker than we were. Now that might be with a plan to go again but that only works if we qualify for the CL, which to my mind, has just become more difficult.

Imagine, we're 1-0 to, I don't know, Burnley in the PL. Conte turns to his bench. Hand on heart can you honestly say we have anyone to change a game? Anyone that can rescue things? We are no absolutely devoid of game changers, be that on the bench or in the first 11. I don't think some of you guys realise this yet but it'll become apparent when this side goes behind. That's when the frailties of this squad will be exposed. Or even if there's a stalemate and we can't find a way through a stubborn defence. That's when the questions will be asked and rightly so. Not just of Conte but of Daniel, Joe, the whole damn hierarchy.

posted on 1/2/22

Not signing a defender is diabolical, expect we will play with 5 at the back for the rest of the season, especially against top half team, get numbers behind the ball

Feel we let Dele go too cheap, should have sold last season in hindsight

Never will get money back on Ndombele be a total wipe off I expect like the gooners

Other than that 6.5/10 for effort

PS what does Paratici really do

posted on 1/2/22

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posted on 1/2/22

will be interesting next season when we have Saar available to play in MF too.... Saar, Skipp, PEH, Winks & Betancur gives us different options.

Like many have pointed out, its that creative MF/ No 10 that leaves a question..... will be very interesting to see exactly what Kulusevski is ?

posted on 1/2/22

comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 8 minutes ago
will be interesting next season when we have Saar available to play in MF too.... Saar, Skipp, PEH, Winks & Betancur gives us different options.

Like many have pointed out, its that creative MF/ No 10 that leaves a question..... will be very interesting to see exactly what Kulusevski is ?
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Maybe Kulusevski becomes our created we been missing ? Play in a Eriksen type role

posted on 1/2/22

The squad is poor but we have to hit and hope for the rest of the season.

Kulu will be in the lucas position on the right imo.

The squad is painfully thin, i can see hojberg playing centre back and Lucas playing up top already.

I suspect in the summer we will have a raft of free transfers come in but it is a poor window no doubt about it.

Paratici doing Juve a favour helping them buy vlahovic wonderful.

posted on 1/2/22

comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 13 minutes ago
Not signing a defender is diabolical, expect we will play with 5 at the back for the rest of the season, especially against top half team, get numbers behind the ball

Feel we let Dele go too cheap, should have sold last season in hindsight

Never will get money back on Ndombele be a total wipe off I expect like the gooners

Other than that 6.5/10 for effort

PS what does Paratici really do
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Agree re your comment re Ndombele... but sadly that's what happens when you recruit poorly and the world goes to shlt thanks to covid. Of course the window could have been better but you have to be realistic !

TBF..... We lost Diaz and Traore because they wanted to go elsewhere NOT Because Levy was being a dlck

Biggest success of the window to me is evidence that Conte and Paratici are making football decisions NOT levy & Hitchen !!

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