at this point the administrators are just exploiting Rooney's naivety / loyalty, OR possibly want him to walk if they think he is one of the main expenses.

If we are leaving discussion of the game and moving to areas of blame then there is a chain of events/actions/attitudes running backwards in time from the administrators right now to Morrris. He started it all and he is responsible for the whole sorry mess - maybe not all foreseeable but the buck stops and starts with him. End of.

comment by ViewFromCroxteth (U1581)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by 🏁 AnglianRam 🏁 (U17428)
posted about 2 hours ago
comment by ViewFromCroxteth (U1581)
posted 45 minutes ago
Leave the the administrators out of any blame game. They are here to do a job and their guiding principle is the creditors. Nothing more, nothing less. They don't have a choice. Not pleasant for them but if they fnck up then it's their careers and job and company that will come into the firing line along with possible legal proceedings.

Like I say - they have no choice.
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But they do have a duty, and are paid enough, to ensure that there are excellent channels of communication with the manager, so that he doesnt look like a complete idiot after every pronouncement he makes to the media.
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No, they do not have that obligation.
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I did say 'duty' rather than obligation.
However, if that really is the case, it makes you wonder on what terms, or who employed them, in the first place.
Oh, hang on !

What is obvious is that none of the parties involved will do anything purely because it is the correct or moral thing to do. This is not what motivates these people. They are motivated by self-interest and that includes Morris, the administrators, the EFL, the two parasite clubs, the creditors and politicians. Although there might be progress behind the scenes that certainly is not the feel of it, and the longer it goes on the worse it gets. Some leverage needs to be applied to those involved. You would think the most susceptible on that list would be the EFL since their position is the least justifiable, and because they have the threat of a regulator being imposed. So they need to have the heat turned up on them. Politicians need to be more vocal in their criticism of the EFL and not just say that "it needs to be sorted out". There needs to be some genuine jeopardy for the EFL or they will keep dragging their heels until we are history.

comment by 🏁 AnglianRam 🏁 (U17428)
posted about 3 hours ago
comment by ViewFromCroxteth (U1581)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by 🏁 AnglianRam 🏁 (U17428)
posted about 2 hours ago
comment by ViewFromCroxteth (U1581)
posted 45 minutes ago
Leave the the administrators out of any blame game. They are here to do a job and their guiding principle is the creditors. Nothing more, nothing less. They don't have a choice. Not pleasant for them but if they fnck up then it's their careers and job and company that will come into the firing line along with possible legal proceedings.

Like I say - they have no choice.
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But they do have a duty, and are paid enough, to ensure that there are excellent channels of communication with the manager, so that he doesnt look like a complete idiot after every pronouncement he makes to the media.
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No, they do not have that obligation.
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I did say 'duty' rather than obligation.
However, if that really is the case, it makes you wonder on what terms, or who employed them, in the first place.
Oh, hang on !
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It seems to me that all that happens is run past morris first.
Of course spart will disagree

For the first time in a while I really am worried that the club is not going to survive.

comment by Scouse (U9675)
posted 6 minutes ago
For the first time in a while I really am worried that the club is not going to survive.
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The Binnies think so as well, according to their latest statement

Keep the faith Scouse.

This squad has fought hard to get to this position. We need to express our belief anyway we can.

comment by UNCLE TOM COBLEY (U1899)
posted about 22 hours ago
comment by 🏁 AnglianRam 🏁 (U17428)
posted about 3 hours ago
comment by ViewFromCroxteth (U1581)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by 🏁 AnglianRam 🏁 (U17428)
posted about 2 hours ago
comment by ViewFromCroxteth (U1581)
posted 45 minutes ago
Leave the the administrators out of any blame game. They are here to do a job and their guiding principle is the creditors. Nothing more, nothing less. They don't have a choice. Not pleasant for them but if they fnck up then it's their careers and job and company that will come into the firing line along with possible legal proceedings.

Like I say - they have no choice.
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But they do have a duty, and are paid enough, to ensure that there are excellent channels of communication with the manager, so that he doesnt look like a complete idiot after every pronouncement he makes to the media.
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No, they do not have that obligation.
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I did say 'duty' rather than obligation.
However, if that really is the case, it makes you wonder on what terms, or who employed them, in the first place.
Oh, hang on !
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It seems to me that all that happens is run past morris first.
Of course spart will disagree
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Why should I disagree? I have no knowledge of the process of administration or liquidation other than the one participant in the process who always emerges better off in the end is the administrator.

comment by Spart-Derby really are the best says red dog. (U4603)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by UNCLE TOM COBLEY (U1899)
posted about 22 hours ago
comment by 🏁 AnglianRam 🏁 (U17428)
posted about 3 hours ago
comment by ViewFromCroxteth (U1581)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by 🏁 AnglianRam 🏁 (U17428)
posted about 2 hours ago
comment by ViewFromCroxteth (U1581)
posted 45 minutes ago
Leave the the administrators out of any blame game. They are here to do a job and their guiding principle is the creditors. Nothing more, nothing less. They don't have a choice. Not pleasant for them but if they fnck up then it's their careers and job and company that will come into the firing line along with possible legal proceedings.

Like I say - they have no choice.
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But they do have a duty, and are paid enough, to ensure that there are excellent channels of communication with the manager, so that he doesnt look like a complete idiot after every pronouncement he makes to the media.
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No, they do not have that obligation.
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I did say 'duty' rather than obligation.
However, if that really is the case, it makes you wonder on what terms, or who employed them, in the first place.
Oh, hang on !
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It seems to me that all that happens is run past morris first.
Of course spart will disagree
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Why should I disagree? I have no knowledge of the process of administration or liquidation other than the one participant in the process who always emerges better off in the end is the administrator.
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Spart is correct, much like the lawyers in a divorce.

The first thing any administrator does when they walk into an insolvent business, is to weigh-up how much they can charge.