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posted on 24/2/22

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posted on 24/2/22

comment by Poolmyfinger (U12438)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 38 minutes ago
Comparing (unregulated) cable broadcasters such as Fox News to the likes of the BBC, Sky (and even the Guardian) is like comparing the intellect of Stephen Hawking to Peter Griffin.
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Two sides of the same coin. Unfortunately, we have to reply on non-cable broadcasters to get news.

Not sure why you always have to resort to saying only Fox News is the only problem. Every single network has bias one way or another. Impartiality no longer exists.

Why don’t you see this?
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It's less the bias, and more the fact that fox news is inaccurate at best and downright lies at worst. Either you are unaware of this and can't tell fact from fiction, or you know this and are creating a false equivalence.

I'll let you decide which it is.

posted on 24/2/22

Impartiality still exists, it just gets accused of being biased by both extremes.

posted on 24/2/22

comment by Poolmyfinger (U12438)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Poolmyfinger (U12438)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Poolmyfinger (U12438)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Poolmyfinger (U12438)
posted 18 minutes ago
And for the morons on this thread claiming Trump was Putin’s puppet, then WHY did Putin wait until now to invade?

Also, as someone else pointed out, why did Trump sanction the pipeline?

Finally, open your eyes and look up John Durham’s investigation. Also the Mueller Report. One report proved that there was no connection or proof of collusion between Trump and Russia…while Durham’s investigation is showing that Hillary Clinton’s campaign team paid for services to hack into Trump tower to plant evidence to be used against Trump during the 2016 election.

So congratulations for peddling actual FAKE news.

Had Trump been in office, this wouldn’t have happened.
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Of course it wouldn't have. The president who was actually impeached for threatening to withhold support from Ukraine would have prevented an invasion of Ukraine...

You embarrass yourself more each time you post on this site.
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No evidence of that whatsoever. A legitimate President being impeached because he won the 2016 election. That’s the real reason.

Biden was on camera boasting that he would withhold funds to Ukraine unless they helped his son was hired by Burisma or whatever the Ukrainian company is called.

But nobody talks about that because the Democrat state media want to protect the putrid man in office.
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What do you mean no evidence? It literally happened. He was impeached for threatening to withhold support from Ukraine you absolute troglodyte.

Please do share the recording you have of Biden. Happy to hear it.
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https://youtu.be/UXA--dj2-CY
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I seem to be missing the part of that where he mentions his son in that clip whatsoever.

Another swing and a miss from Poolmy.
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He threatens to withhold funding unless the prosecutor investigating Buresma’s business dealings with Hunter Biden is removed.

Wake the feck up. A simple google search will help you. I’m not going to spoon feed you.

It doesn’t matter anyway because you’ll just deflect and deny it as anything genuine because it makes your boy look bad.
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Again, can you point me to the specific bit of the video where he talks about his son?

"boasting that he would withhold funds to Ukraine unless they helped his son"

Your actual claim that you made. Please just point out where he boasts about this in the video. It's interesting how you suddenly want spoon feed it when you cant find your evidence were happy to do so when you thought you had that evidence.

Also, Biden isn't my "boy". I'm not a Democrat, or an American. All I've done is call out your nonsense. Still angry that the election was stolen from you?

posted on 24/2/22

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posted on 24/2/22

"you’re just parroting the same Bs you’ve probably read somewhere."

This is rich coming from the idiot who repeatedly says things like

"Mueller report does its thing and they drop the discussion like a hotcake.

John Durham’s findings aren’t even mentioned on either of these networks, instead they talk about Jan 6th"

posted on 24/2/22

No evidence of that whatsoever. A legitimate President being impeached because he won the 2016 election. That’s the real reason.

Biden was on camera boasting that he would withhold funds to Ukraine unless they helped his son was hired by Burisma or whatever the Ukrainian company is called.

But nobody talks about that because the Democrat state media want to protect the putrid man in office.
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Where does Poolmyfinger get his news? It was Trump that threatened Ukraine if they didn't find dirt on Biden junior.

comment by Cloggy (U1250)

posted on 24/2/22

comment by Poolmyfinger (U12438)
posted 3 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again (U8398)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 2 seconds ago
Saying trump wouldn't have allowed this

People will say anything
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Desperate and laughable.

That idiot couldn’t even point to Ukraine on a map.
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you guys are just brainwashed sheep
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i agree with you PP

loads of people in Britain are as brainwashed as north koreans imo

blue pilled about the role the Anglo countries have in world disruption
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Shut it paella face.

Think we smashed your Armada to have you coming over here giving us cheek.
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“Paella face”

That’s pretty racist.
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No its not

Facking moron

posted on 24/2/22

comment by Poolmyfinger (U12438)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 38 minutes ago
Comparing (unregulated) cable broadcasters such as Fox News to the likes of the BBC, Sky (and even the Guardian) is like comparing the intellect of Stephen Hawking to Peter Griffin.
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Two sides of the same coin. Unfortunately, we have to reply on non-cable broadcasters to get news.

Not sure why you always have to resort to saying only Fox News is the only problem. Every single network has bias one way or another. Impartiality no longer exists.

Why don’t you see this?
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Nobody said Fox is the only problem.

Furthermore, some biases are simply more egregious and dangerous than others. Some media outlets are more dangerous than others. ou can't just lump them all together because they all have biases as if the biases have similar impacts on society.

posted on 24/2/22

So to summarise... judging by the way this thread is going, WWIII is going to be preeetty boring.

comment by Cloggy (U1250)

posted on 24/2/22

comment by Poolmyfinger (U12438)
posted 3 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again (U8398)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 2 seconds ago
Saying trump wouldn't have allowed this

People will say anything
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Desperate and laughable.

That idiot couldn’t even point to Ukraine on a map.
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you guys are just brainwashed sheep
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i agree with you PP

loads of people in Britain are as brainwashed as north koreans imo

blue pilled about the role the Anglo countries have in world disruption
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Shut it paella face.

Think we smashed your Armada to have you coming over here giving us cheek.
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“Paella face”

That’s pretty racist.
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No its not

Facking moron

posted on 24/2/22

"you’re just parroting the same Bs you’ve probably read somewhere."
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Reading through this thread I wonder why Pool and Peks don't take his own advice.

They are stooges of right wing media outlets, a perfect example of what these outlets are trying to create, an outlook based only on convenient truths topped up with propaganda and lies where the truth isn't fit for the agenda..

comment by Cloggy (U1250)

posted on 24/2/22

Apologies for the double post but at least it's clear now

posted on 24/2/22

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 43 minutes ago

Aaallllllriiiiiightty then......!!!
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Come on, you're not seriously arguing that the BBC isn't just a state propaganda outlet? Just look at the Auditor General you were talking about. "Wholly independent of Government", yet appointed by the Queen on advice of the PM. Doesn't sound too "independent" to me.

Ofcom are a joke too. Barely do anything except soak up money for their executives, but just a quick glance shows they too are full of Tories, HoL members and other privately-educated Oxbridge graduates. I'm sure they'll be super impartial, especially the current one who's married to a Telegraph writer and banker.

But the Government-appointed regulators have reported to the Government and concluded that the Government-controlled media is perfectly fair and balanced, so all must be well!

comment by Cloggy (U1250)

posted on 24/2/22

comment by Poolmyfinger (U12438)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
"Unfortunately, it will probably have to take the US going in and cleaning up the mess."

The US caused the fecking mess, now they refuse to help out.

Yet more citizens blood on their hands. No wonder the world hates them.
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Yeah, the US - Biden specifically - caused this mess. Don’t worry, he’s not going to last soon.

November, Republicans will win Congress back in a landslide and the first order of business is removing him and his floozy of a VP. Then we can appoint someone who will have no issue standing up to Putin instead of hiding behind useless sanctions.

If you want peace, you must prepare for war.
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Says the guy safe from his family home and the only weapon he has is to shoot his neighbour in case he steps on his lawn uninvited.

posted on 24/2/22

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 4 hours, 11 minutes ago
The Right wing are squirming like f*ck, Putin Puppets the lot of em.
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Selected version. I see he's ignoring Abbott and John McDonnell's stance on this.

posted on 24/2/22

comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again (U8398)
posted 6 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by Son Of Gunnersaurus a.k.a SoG (U1310)
posted 10 minutes ago
What a shi.ite day all round. Woke up to Russia invading and now just home from burying my grandadgive straight to the pub to have a pint or two. Not even bothered about the arsenal gave tonight
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sorry to hear about grandad
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I hope you are a bit happier now

posted on 24/2/22

comment by Drunken Hobo (U7360)
posted 4 hours, 11 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 43 minutes ago

Aaallllllriiiiiightty then......!!!
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Come on, you're not seriously arguing that the BBC isn't just a state propaganda outlet? Just look at the Auditor General you were talking about. "Wholly independent of Government", yet appointed by the Queen on advice of the PM. Doesn't sound too "independent" to me.

Ofcom are a joke too. Barely do anything except soak up money for their executives, but just a quick glance shows they too are full of Tories, HoL members and other privately-educated Oxbridge graduates. I'm sure they'll be super impartial, especially the current one who's married to a Telegraph writer and banker.

But the Government-appointed regulators have reported to the Government and concluded that the Government-controlled media is perfectly fair and balanced, so all must be well!
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Please research, (or bother reading the links provided) the structural/organisational/regulatory frameworks which underpin the BBC before commenting further.

Regular contributors to the politics thread(s) will attest I'm no fan of the Conservative party.

Nevertheless attacking the impartially of non-governmental entities (without evidence) only serves to enhance/encourage conspiracy theorists.

posted on 25/2/22

Without evidence? I presume you've never watched the BBC then? Or been on their website? Or seen who the Director General is? Or all of his staff? Or the political editor?

I just don't understand the naïveté that someone can read an article on the BBC that says it checks itself and assures you that it's on the level. Literally all state propaganda outlets do that (but I suppose the British one is different, because we British do things differently).

If you're wondering whether I'm biased or incorrect about the BBC, don't worry - I've checked with myself and I'm definitely fair and balanced. My mate says so too.

posted on 25/2/22

comment by Drunken Hobo (U7360)
posted 7 minutes ago
Without evidence? I presume you've never watched the BBC then? Or been on their website? Or seen who the Director General is? Or all of his staff? Or the political editor?

I just don't understand the naïveté that someone can read an article on the BBC that says it checks itself and assures you that it's on the level. Literally all state propaganda outlets do that (but I suppose the British one is different, because we British do things differently).

If you're wondering whether I'm biased or incorrect about the BBC, don't worry - I've checked with myself and I'm definitely fair and balanced. My mate says so too.
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the BBC is loaded with bias

the way it is portraying the Ukraine crisis , for example...it's hardly impartial or looking at things from all perspectives


I don't like the way the BBC holds itself up as some kind of bastion of impartially and neutrality

it's state run

posted on 25/2/22

the way it is portraying the Ukraine crisis , for example...it's hardly impartial or looking at things from all perspectives

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Neither are you so that's a bit hypocritical.

posted on 25/2/22

comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 28 minutes ago
the way it is portraying the Ukraine crisis , for example...it's hardly impartial or looking at things from all perspectives

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Neither are you so that's a bit hypocritical.
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i am as it happens

one of the only people on this site to do so

posted on 25/2/22

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/25/ukraine-invasion-explosions-in-kyiv-as-uk-reports-fierce-resistance-across-the-nation

posted on 25/2/22

When this started i really didn't want to get involved but the more i read, the more i am convinced that it's a mistake for NATO to stand by.

It would be easier to help defend Ukraine than it will be in time to come to defend Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania and that time will come. Then we are duty bound to defend 3 small countries that Russia could roll through in a day and catch us cold. Where would that leave us having to fight an offensive war against Russia.

That's much more terrifying because when we start attacking Russian soil they become a lot more dangerous and unpredictable imo.

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