Terminator waking up upset again. Shock. Does it not get tiresome arguing every day!
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 23 minutes
We seem to be getting a lot of upset posters on our board like terminator, conflating the fact he’s been a good owner with what he is as a person.
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That’s the nub of this whole conversation I think Nick. I suspect it’s only Chelsea fan that will want to draw the distinction between being a good owner and a good person. It’s a bit like saying the Krays may have been a bit naughty but they were great to their mother. To most people, that’s irrelevant.
I agree the chat around risks to Chelsea as a club - bankruptcy, end of gravy train etc - is just nonsense.
Simply put, for many people Abramovich, good owner or not, isn’t worthy of your support.
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Good post again naby. Let’s watch this space. Are you off to the game? I’m playing footy then on my way to Wembley. Enjoy the game either way
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 23 minutes
We seem to be getting a lot of upset posters on our board like terminator, conflating the fact he’s been a good owner with what he is as a person.
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That’s the nub of this whole conversation I think Nick. I suspect it’s only Chelsea fan that will want to draw the distinction between being a good owner and a good person. It’s a bit like saying the Krays may have been a bit naughty but they were great to their mother. To most people, that’s irrelevant.
I agree the chat around risks to Chelsea as a club - bankruptcy, end of gravy train etc - is just nonsense.
Simply put, for many people Abramovich, good owner or not, isn’t worthy of your support.
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Good post again naby. Let’s watch this space. Are you off to the game? I’m playing footy then on my way to Wembley. Enjoy the game either way
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Unfortunately not. I don’t get to watch many games these days. The only live football I seem to watch is my son’s team!
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 59 seconds ago
Terminator waking up upset again. Shock. Does it not get tiresome arguing every day!
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I’m replying to something you said, where you got something completely wrong. I’d say it was perfectly reasonable to point out you’d gotten the wrong end of the stick.
Incidentally, you do love pointing out my tendency to argue, but you’re a bit of a hypocrite for doing so. You’re constantly picking people up for what they say, do you not even realise you’re doing it?
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 23 minutes
We seem to be getting a lot of upset posters on our board like terminator, conflating the fact he’s been a good owner with what he is as a person.
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That’s the nub of this whole conversation I think Nick. I suspect it’s only Chelsea fan that will want to draw the distinction between being a good owner and a good person. It’s a bit like saying the Krays may have been a bit naughty but they were great to their mother. To most people, that’s irrelevant.
I agree the chat around risks to Chelsea as a club - bankruptcy, end of gravy train etc - is just nonsense.
Simply put, for many people Abramovich, good owner or not, isn’t worthy of your support.
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Good post again naby. Let’s watch this space. Are you off to the game? I’m playing footy then on my way to Wembley. Enjoy the game either way
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Unfortunately not. I don’t get to watch many games these days. The only live football I seem to watch is my son’s team!
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Grass roots is great. Have a good one
There is a difference however between defending the integrity of the club, which has been questioned, and exhalting an owner who is really very questionable indeed. The club should be defended, absolutely. Putting the owner on a pedestal sits a lot more uncomfortably with many.
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Tbf it is a sad state of affairs for football when an individual like Abramovich is one of the only owners in the top division in the country where you can categorially determine through his actions for several years that he actually cares about the club he owns.
In a world of demons, which football kinda is these days, he's the devil you want in your corner. That makes it easy to defend him from a football prospective but that's wrong, he shouldn't be unique in that regard
Liverpool fans going on about “wrongdoings”!
You couldn’t make it up! Their shirt sponsor Standard Chartered have been fined for money laundering and breaking sanctions with the likes of Iran, in 2020 they were fined for breaking sanctions by giving loans to Russian Banks!
Yet the self righteous club have never walked away and distanced themselves from Standard Chartered , says it all!
Yep those who live in glass houses etc. The sensible thing is to not pass judgement til all the details are out. All clubs are sponsored by the likes of Nike who have their history of child/slave labour etc. Where do you start and stop with all this?
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 34 minutes ago
The theme I see is Roman has been a fantastic owner for us, however if any wrongdoing, dodgy dealings or anything illegal is proven then heads, his specifically, should roll and he should face the consequences.
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Of course the Russian gangster has been a good owner for Chelsea, very good in fact and I don't see anyone denying that. The focus is on him as an individual. The same goes for City owners who are great for the club but we all know about them and why they bought the club.
One reason both City and Chelsea owners bought said clubs is to sportswash and improve their image and that would be hard to do if they run the club into the ground. They have no choice but to be good owners. Its for their own good to begin with.
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That is a reason given. Roman made it clear when he bought us he had little interest in football in the past but had got really involved in it prior to buying us, particularly enjoying the champions league. Now that might be spin. So might other reasons, the truth is hidden in there some where.
People tend to get rich by siezing an opportunity and that tends to happen through innovation, foresight, luck of birth, hard work and even being lucky enough to be on the right place at the right time. For the life of me for example I still don't understand the popularity of bloggers and vloggers that become millionaires, but I'm old.
One thing I try and do is take a holistic view, I have read Romans claims, I have read accusations against him. He has been in the public eye, one way or another for 20 years and really doesn't have anywhere to hide, yet to date zero action has been taken against him yet others, most I've never heard of and some even richer than Roman have seen action taken against them.
Jab or no jab left or right everyone has an opinion yet the truth tends to be somewhere in between never as black and white as some try and make it.
Apologies in advance if I don't get to respond to any pushbike, I have a cup final to get to.
Tbf it is a sad state of affairs for football when an individual like Abramovich is one of the only owners in the top division in the country where you can categorially determine through his actions for several years that he actually cares about the club he owns.
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As mentioned before, he cares because its in his own interest to do so. Other owners are genuine investors, not Russian gangsters looking to sanitise their image and control a play thing for their amusement.
All the others are in it to make money. The Oligarch is in it to help his image and to have a toy to play with both of which he cannot achieve without pumping money into the club.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 8 hours, 56 minutes ago
Well I have not seen anyone defending Roman. Although I have not read every single post.
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Brilliant
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Where has someone defended Roman? There’s not a single post. Everyone has said if he is guilty of wrong doing he should be punished. Really, what are you on this site for? Just to make things up and start arguments? It’s so sad, get a hobby or something
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He has no life Nick That is wht he is so obsessed and angry all the time.
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
Tbf it is a sad state of affairs for football when an individual like Abramovich is one of the only owners in the top division in the country where you can categorially determine through his actions for several years that he actually cares about the club he owns.
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As mentioned before, he cares because its in his own interest to do so. Other owners are genuine investors, not Russian gangsters looking to sanitise their image and control a play thing for their amusement.
All the others are in it to make money. The Oligarch is in it to help his image and to have a toy to play with both of which he cannot achieve without pumping money into the club.
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Jeez you’re dumb
One thing I try and do is take a holistic view, I have read Romans claims, I have read accusations against him. He has been in the public eye, one way or another for 20 years and really doesn't have anywhere to hide, yet to date zero action has been taken against him yet others, most I've never heard of and some even richer than Roman have seen action taken against them.
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Because your level of cooperation and closeness to Putin and the Kremlin is what determines whether action is taken against you.
They simply got rid of their enemies and those who do not toe the line, this is Russia we're talking about here. Agreeable billionaires like Roman are left alone and used when needed.
So failure to take action against him doesn't mean wht you think it means. In fact, it means the opposite.
comment by RtM (U1097)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
Tbf it is a sad state of affairs for football when an individual like Abramovich is one of the only owners in the top division in the country where you can categorially determine through his actions for several years that he actually cares about the club he owns.
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As mentioned before, he cares because its in his own interest to do so. Other owners are genuine investors, not Russian gangsters looking to sanitise their image and control a play thing for their amusement.
All the others are in it to make money. The Oligarch is in it to help his image and to have a toy to play with both of which he cannot achieve without pumping money into the club.
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Jeez you’re dumb
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Truth never goes down well.
comment by RtM (U1097)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
Tbf it is a sad state of affairs for football when an individual like Abramovich is one of the only owners in the top division in the country where you can categorially determine through his actions for several years that he actually cares about the club he owns.
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As mentioned before, he cares because its in his own interest to do so. Other owners are genuine investors, not Russian gangsters looking to sanitise their image and control a play thing for their amusement.
All the others are in it to make money. The Oligarch is in it to help his image and to have a toy to play with both of which he cannot achieve without pumping money into the club.
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Jeez you’re dumb
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Oh yeah, him and many others.
People tend to get rich by siezing an opportunity and that tends to happen through innovation, foresight, luck of birth, hard work and even being lucky enough to be on the right place at the right time.
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Also by robbing the people blind, amassing public wealth as private property, corrupting the system to do favours for you aka stealing.
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
People tend to get rich by siezing an opportunity and that tends to happen through innovation, foresight, luck of birth, hard work and even being lucky enough to be on the right place at the right time.
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Also by robbing the people blind, amassing public wealth as private property, corrupting the system to do favours for you aka stealing.
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Notice he hasn't come out to condemn the genocide his country are currently perpetrating on a peaceful nation. Man is a contemptuous human being.
comment by RtM (U1097)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
Tbf it is a sad state of affairs for football when an individual like Abramovich is one of the only owners in the top division in the country where you can categorially determine through his actions for several years that he actually cares about the club he owns.
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As mentioned before, he cares because its in his own interest to do so. Other owners are genuine investors, not Russian gangsters looking to sanitise their image and control a play thing for their amusement.
All the others are in it to make money. The Oligarch is in it to help his image and to have a toy to play with both of which he cannot achieve without pumping money into the club.
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Jeez you’re dumb
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Never came across him before. Very poor takes
comment by Elsbels - The Specials' One (U21658)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
People tend to get rich by siezing an opportunity and that tends to happen through innovation, foresight, luck of birth, hard work and even being lucky enough to be on the right place at the right time.
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Also by robbing the people blind, amassing public wealth as private property, corrupting the system to do favours for you aka stealing.
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Notice he hasn't come out to condemn the genocide his country are currently perpetrating on a peaceful nation. Man is a contemptuous human being.
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I am aware of the invasion in Ukraine, what is the genocide you are referring to?
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 33 minutes ago
One thing I try and do is take a holistic view, I have read Romans claims, I have read accusations against him. He has been in the public eye, one way or another for 20 years and really doesn't have anywhere to hide, yet to date zero action has been taken against him yet others, most I've never heard of and some even richer than Roman have seen action taken against them.
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Because your level of cooperation and closeness to Putin and the Kremlin is what determines whether action is taken against you.
They simply got rid of their enemies and those who do not toe the line, this is Russia we're talking about here. Agreeable billionaires like Roman are left alone and used when needed.
So failure to take action against him doesn't mean wht you think it means. In fact, it means the opposite.
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So at present the UK govt has sanctioned Putin but not Ambramovic. How does that square with your theory on inaction?
Sad that when people are getting killed in a war, all some want to do are score points.
Spurs fans being the worst from what I have seen
comment by CFC: Quad stoppers (U20729)
posted 11 minutes ago
Sad that when people are getting killed in a war, all some want to do are score points.
Spurs fans being the worst from what I have seen
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Spot on. This is such a minor issue in comparison. I said in an earlier post that I could not care less whT happens to Roman but I see a chance here that if Ukraine can hold out that Putin might actually be deposed in a coup. This is where my thoughts are.
These
The sad bitter rival fans trying to score points during a humanitarian crisis are shameful.
Read Romans daughters comments today. Sure that'll go down well with Putin. Roman must've always known he was gonna have a difficult time at some stage.
Getting rich because Putin let him purchase state assets at massively under valued prices is the reason he wanted to buy a high profile foreign team on the first place
How Russians didn't call him out like the other billionaires after he ploughed billions into a foreign football team I'll never know. Now his daughter has gone in on Putin I can see roman keeping a low profile for a long time tbh.
Wouldn't say fans are scoring points. Being one of Putin 'best mates' was always going to cause an issue when stuff like this unfolds. He's been Chelsea sugar daddy for years. Putin made that possible so it's not something people will ignore, especially with the laughable attempt to get the trust to handle things top this all blows over, to distance him from things.
Rival fans mocked greenwood and united. Rival fans mocked terry when he was smashing team mates wives. Of course they will mock Chelsea owners close rapport with a lunatic! Especially as their success was funded with Russian $
Has Roman passed the Buck to Bruce now !
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posted on 27/2/22
Terminator waking up upset again. Shock. Does it not get tiresome arguing every day!
posted on 27/2/22
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 23 minutes
We seem to be getting a lot of upset posters on our board like terminator, conflating the fact he’s been a good owner with what he is as a person.
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That’s the nub of this whole conversation I think Nick. I suspect it’s only Chelsea fan that will want to draw the distinction between being a good owner and a good person. It’s a bit like saying the Krays may have been a bit naughty but they were great to their mother. To most people, that’s irrelevant.
I agree the chat around risks to Chelsea as a club - bankruptcy, end of gravy train etc - is just nonsense.
Simply put, for many people Abramovich, good owner or not, isn’t worthy of your support.
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Good post again naby. Let’s watch this space. Are you off to the game? I’m playing footy then on my way to Wembley. Enjoy the game either way
posted on 27/2/22
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 23 minutes
We seem to be getting a lot of upset posters on our board like terminator, conflating the fact he’s been a good owner with what he is as a person.
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That’s the nub of this whole conversation I think Nick. I suspect it’s only Chelsea fan that will want to draw the distinction between being a good owner and a good person. It’s a bit like saying the Krays may have been a bit naughty but they were great to their mother. To most people, that’s irrelevant.
I agree the chat around risks to Chelsea as a club - bankruptcy, end of gravy train etc - is just nonsense.
Simply put, for many people Abramovich, good owner or not, isn’t worthy of your support.
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Good post again naby. Let’s watch this space. Are you off to the game? I’m playing footy then on my way to Wembley. Enjoy the game either way
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Unfortunately not. I don’t get to watch many games these days. The only live football I seem to watch is my son’s team!
posted on 27/2/22
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 59 seconds ago
Terminator waking up upset again. Shock. Does it not get tiresome arguing every day!
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I’m replying to something you said, where you got something completely wrong. I’d say it was perfectly reasonable to point out you’d gotten the wrong end of the stick.
Incidentally, you do love pointing out my tendency to argue, but you’re a bit of a hypocrite for doing so. You’re constantly picking people up for what they say, do you not even realise you’re doing it?
posted on 27/2/22
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 23 minutes
We seem to be getting a lot of upset posters on our board like terminator, conflating the fact he’s been a good owner with what he is as a person.
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That’s the nub of this whole conversation I think Nick. I suspect it’s only Chelsea fan that will want to draw the distinction between being a good owner and a good person. It’s a bit like saying the Krays may have been a bit naughty but they were great to their mother. To most people, that’s irrelevant.
I agree the chat around risks to Chelsea as a club - bankruptcy, end of gravy train etc - is just nonsense.
Simply put, for many people Abramovich, good owner or not, isn’t worthy of your support.
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Good post again naby. Let’s watch this space. Are you off to the game? I’m playing footy then on my way to Wembley. Enjoy the game either way
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Unfortunately not. I don’t get to watch many games these days. The only live football I seem to watch is my son’s team!
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Grass roots is great. Have a good one
posted on 27/2/22
There is a difference however between defending the integrity of the club, which has been questioned, and exhalting an owner who is really very questionable indeed. The club should be defended, absolutely. Putting the owner on a pedestal sits a lot more uncomfortably with many.
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Tbf it is a sad state of affairs for football when an individual like Abramovich is one of the only owners in the top division in the country where you can categorially determine through his actions for several years that he actually cares about the club he owns.
In a world of demons, which football kinda is these days, he's the devil you want in your corner. That makes it easy to defend him from a football prospective but that's wrong, he shouldn't be unique in that regard
posted on 27/2/22
Liverpool fans going on about “wrongdoings”!
You couldn’t make it up! Their shirt sponsor Standard Chartered have been fined for money laundering and breaking sanctions with the likes of Iran, in 2020 they were fined for breaking sanctions by giving loans to Russian Banks!
Yet the self righteous club have never walked away and distanced themselves from Standard Chartered , says it all!
posted on 27/2/22
Yep those who live in glass houses etc. The sensible thing is to not pass judgement til all the details are out. All clubs are sponsored by the likes of Nike who have their history of child/slave labour etc. Where do you start and stop with all this?
posted on 27/2/22
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 34 minutes ago
The theme I see is Roman has been a fantastic owner for us, however if any wrongdoing, dodgy dealings or anything illegal is proven then heads, his specifically, should roll and he should face the consequences.
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Of course the Russian gangster has been a good owner for Chelsea, very good in fact and I don't see anyone denying that. The focus is on him as an individual. The same goes for City owners who are great for the club but we all know about them and why they bought the club.
One reason both City and Chelsea owners bought said clubs is to sportswash and improve their image and that would be hard to do if they run the club into the ground. They have no choice but to be good owners. Its for their own good to begin with.
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That is a reason given. Roman made it clear when he bought us he had little interest in football in the past but had got really involved in it prior to buying us, particularly enjoying the champions league. Now that might be spin. So might other reasons, the truth is hidden in there some where.
People tend to get rich by siezing an opportunity and that tends to happen through innovation, foresight, luck of birth, hard work and even being lucky enough to be on the right place at the right time. For the life of me for example I still don't understand the popularity of bloggers and vloggers that become millionaires, but I'm old.
One thing I try and do is take a holistic view, I have read Romans claims, I have read accusations against him. He has been in the public eye, one way or another for 20 years and really doesn't have anywhere to hide, yet to date zero action has been taken against him yet others, most I've never heard of and some even richer than Roman have seen action taken against them.
Jab or no jab left or right everyone has an opinion yet the truth tends to be somewhere in between never as black and white as some try and make it.
Apologies in advance if I don't get to respond to any pushbike, I have a cup final to get to.
posted on 27/2/22
Tbf it is a sad state of affairs for football when an individual like Abramovich is one of the only owners in the top division in the country where you can categorially determine through his actions for several years that he actually cares about the club he owns.
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As mentioned before, he cares because its in his own interest to do so. Other owners are genuine investors, not Russian gangsters looking to sanitise their image and control a play thing for their amusement.
All the others are in it to make money. The Oligarch is in it to help his image and to have a toy to play with both of which he cannot achieve without pumping money into the club.
posted on 27/2/22
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 8 hours, 56 minutes ago
Well I have not seen anyone defending Roman. Although I have not read every single post.
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Brilliant
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Where has someone defended Roman? There’s not a single post. Everyone has said if he is guilty of wrong doing he should be punished. Really, what are you on this site for? Just to make things up and start arguments? It’s so sad, get a hobby or something
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He has no life Nick That is wht he is so obsessed and angry all the time.
posted on 27/2/22
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
Tbf it is a sad state of affairs for football when an individual like Abramovich is one of the only owners in the top division in the country where you can categorially determine through his actions for several years that he actually cares about the club he owns.
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As mentioned before, he cares because its in his own interest to do so. Other owners are genuine investors, not Russian gangsters looking to sanitise their image and control a play thing for their amusement.
All the others are in it to make money. The Oligarch is in it to help his image and to have a toy to play with both of which he cannot achieve without pumping money into the club.
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Jeez you’re dumb
posted on 27/2/22
One thing I try and do is take a holistic view, I have read Romans claims, I have read accusations against him. He has been in the public eye, one way or another for 20 years and really doesn't have anywhere to hide, yet to date zero action has been taken against him yet others, most I've never heard of and some even richer than Roman have seen action taken against them.
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Because your level of cooperation and closeness to Putin and the Kremlin is what determines whether action is taken against you.
They simply got rid of their enemies and those who do not toe the line, this is Russia we're talking about here. Agreeable billionaires like Roman are left alone and used when needed.
So failure to take action against him doesn't mean wht you think it means. In fact, it means the opposite.
posted on 27/2/22
comment by RtM (U1097)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
Tbf it is a sad state of affairs for football when an individual like Abramovich is one of the only owners in the top division in the country where you can categorially determine through his actions for several years that he actually cares about the club he owns.
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As mentioned before, he cares because its in his own interest to do so. Other owners are genuine investors, not Russian gangsters looking to sanitise their image and control a play thing for their amusement.
All the others are in it to make money. The Oligarch is in it to help his image and to have a toy to play with both of which he cannot achieve without pumping money into the club.
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Jeez you’re dumb
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Truth never goes down well.
posted on 27/2/22
comment by RtM (U1097)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
Tbf it is a sad state of affairs for football when an individual like Abramovich is one of the only owners in the top division in the country where you can categorially determine through his actions for several years that he actually cares about the club he owns.
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As mentioned before, he cares because its in his own interest to do so. Other owners are genuine investors, not Russian gangsters looking to sanitise their image and control a play thing for their amusement.
All the others are in it to make money. The Oligarch is in it to help his image and to have a toy to play with both of which he cannot achieve without pumping money into the club.
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Jeez you’re dumb
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Oh yeah, him and many others.
posted on 27/2/22
People tend to get rich by siezing an opportunity and that tends to happen through innovation, foresight, luck of birth, hard work and even being lucky enough to be on the right place at the right time.
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Also by robbing the people blind, amassing public wealth as private property, corrupting the system to do favours for you aka stealing.
posted on 27/2/22
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
People tend to get rich by siezing an opportunity and that tends to happen through innovation, foresight, luck of birth, hard work and even being lucky enough to be on the right place at the right time.
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Also by robbing the people blind, amassing public wealth as private property, corrupting the system to do favours for you aka stealing.
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Notice he hasn't come out to condemn the genocide his country are currently perpetrating on a peaceful nation. Man is a contemptuous human being.
posted on 27/2/22
comment by RtM (U1097)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
Tbf it is a sad state of affairs for football when an individual like Abramovich is one of the only owners in the top division in the country where you can categorially determine through his actions for several years that he actually cares about the club he owns.
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As mentioned before, he cares because its in his own interest to do so. Other owners are genuine investors, not Russian gangsters looking to sanitise their image and control a play thing for their amusement.
All the others are in it to make money. The Oligarch is in it to help his image and to have a toy to play with both of which he cannot achieve without pumping money into the club.
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Jeez you’re dumb
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Never came across him before. Very poor takes
posted on 27/2/22
comment by Elsbels - The Specials' One (U21658)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
People tend to get rich by siezing an opportunity and that tends to happen through innovation, foresight, luck of birth, hard work and even being lucky enough to be on the right place at the right time.
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Also by robbing the people blind, amassing public wealth as private property, corrupting the system to do favours for you aka stealing.
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Notice he hasn't come out to condemn the genocide his country are currently perpetrating on a peaceful nation. Man is a contemptuous human being.
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I am aware of the invasion in Ukraine, what is the genocide you are referring to?
posted on 27/2/22
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 33 minutes ago
One thing I try and do is take a holistic view, I have read Romans claims, I have read accusations against him. He has been in the public eye, one way or another for 20 years and really doesn't have anywhere to hide, yet to date zero action has been taken against him yet others, most I've never heard of and some even richer than Roman have seen action taken against them.
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Because your level of cooperation and closeness to Putin and the Kremlin is what determines whether action is taken against you.
They simply got rid of their enemies and those who do not toe the line, this is Russia we're talking about here. Agreeable billionaires like Roman are left alone and used when needed.
So failure to take action against him doesn't mean wht you think it means. In fact, it means the opposite.
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So at present the UK govt has sanctioned Putin but not Ambramovic. How does that square with your theory on inaction?
posted on 27/2/22
Sad that when people are getting killed in a war, all some want to do are score points.
Spurs fans being the worst from what I have seen
posted on 27/2/22
comment by CFC: Quad stoppers (U20729)
posted 11 minutes ago
Sad that when people are getting killed in a war, all some want to do are score points.
Spurs fans being the worst from what I have seen
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Spot on. This is such a minor issue in comparison. I said in an earlier post that I could not care less whT happens to Roman but I see a chance here that if Ukraine can hold out that Putin might actually be deposed in a coup. This is where my thoughts are.
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posted on 27/2/22
The sad bitter rival fans trying to score points during a humanitarian crisis are shameful.
posted on 27/2/22
Read Romans daughters comments today. Sure that'll go down well with Putin. Roman must've always known he was gonna have a difficult time at some stage.
Getting rich because Putin let him purchase state assets at massively under valued prices is the reason he wanted to buy a high profile foreign team on the first place
How Russians didn't call him out like the other billionaires after he ploughed billions into a foreign football team I'll never know. Now his daughter has gone in on Putin I can see roman keeping a low profile for a long time tbh.
Wouldn't say fans are scoring points. Being one of Putin 'best mates' was always going to cause an issue when stuff like this unfolds. He's been Chelsea sugar daddy for years. Putin made that possible so it's not something people will ignore, especially with the laughable attempt to get the trust to handle things top this all blows over, to distance him from things.
Rival fans mocked greenwood and united. Rival fans mocked terry when he was smashing team mates wives. Of course they will mock Chelsea owners close rapport with a lunatic! Especially as their success was funded with Russian $
posted on 27/2/22
Has Roman passed the Buck to Bruce now !
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