Rewatch it bud. Definitely says it's on when he sees the lines. Not Dixon but the other guy.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/60809234
‘Was he onside, that’s the question…didn’t look it there…’
Anyway, it makes no difference whatsoever - as I said initially, the better team went through
I’m just questioning the point of VAR and whether it truly enhances the game…I’m not sure it does - but that’s just my personal opinion
I found it weird how they implemented it for this game suddenly. Also don't think some should have it and some not in the same competition. Also don't get the clear and obvious side of things, it's too subjective.
However, I think most forget when VAR gets things spot on.
Yeah, I definitely agree how some games had VAR and some didn’t especially in the same round of the competition - that’s really strange and seems unfair for all the clubs involved
I think it's more a case of the media images not being accurate and deceptive rather than VAR's interpretation. The have the lines to follow. We have Lee dixon 😂
Good luck to forest with the rest of the season.
There is no conspiracy, there is plenty of incompetence that we have seen with refs in our league games and to be honest with VAR I can take it better than the useless prats we have had recently!
The positive spin ……
Our fixture list is crazy busy until now and end of season, if we had of lost another weekend to the FA cup the only way we could have made up the game would have been to play Tues and Thurs in same week!
Actually all this has done us a favour, genuinely proud of our club and happy we have space to crack on with remaining 10 games
comment by FOREST (U22817)
posted 29 minutes ago
Yeah, I definitely agree how some games had VAR and some didn’t especially in the same round of the competition - that’s really strange and seems unfair for all the clubs involved
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Some clubs have more decent pitches, some better crowds. Is what it is, just a variable that allows more correct decisions than before. Sure there's a small cost but hey ho. Never understood the fans that would rather have wrong decisions so they can argue the to55 about them for decades after.
Also, not really one for wishing Liverpool luck as don’t care a great deal who actually wins the PL or CL.
But I would say, I can’t help but have massive respect for Klopp and his team, way they approach games and achievements they have already and of course what’s coming! It is a privilege to watch this all unfolding.
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 50 minutes ago
I'm not sure what commentary you were listening to but on ITV he called it inside immediately because he could see the VAR lines being drawn.
However, I do wish they'd just draw it from the feet. Done.
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The commentary I was listening to said he was offside. Then they disputed the decision during and after the game.
Admittedly, it was Paramount+ / TenPlay in Australia!
However, the English and Scottish commentators waxed lyrical about Liverpool throughout the game, so had no reason to call out what they saw and draw a sheety line on the screen.
Liverpool deserved the win. It wasn’t a penalty, but if VAR uses 28 cameras and angles and mics etc...then let’s see it in detail.
Drawing it from the feet ends the controversy.
If it can’t be decided for a goal then maybe just have a penalty?
Anyway, no hard feelings. Just calling what I saw and heard.
Drawing it from feet solves nothing - it just changes the point of controversy when there's a marginal call whatever part of the body is chosen.
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by FOREST (U22817)
posted 29 minutes ago
Yeah, I definitely agree how some games had VAR and some didn’t especially in the same round of the competition - that’s really strange and seems unfair for all the clubs involved
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Some clubs have more decent pitches, some better crowds. Is what it is, just a variable that allows more correct decisions than before. Sure there's a small cost but hey ho. Never understood the fans that would rather have wrong decisions so they can argue the to55 about them for decades after.
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Exactly - that’s the whole point
comment by FOREST (U22817)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by FOREST (U22817)
posted 29 minutes ago
Yeah, I definitely agree how some games had VAR and some didn’t especially in the same round of the competition - that’s really strange and seems unfair for all the clubs involved
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Some clubs have more decent pitches, some better crowds. Is what it is, just a variable that allows more correct decisions than before. Sure there's a small cost but hey ho. Never understood the fans that would rather have wrong decisions so they can argue the to55 about them for decades after.
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Exactly - that’s the whole point
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What a waste of your life - it's not exactly like there isn't lots of other useless sh.t to argue about.
useless sh.t is useless sh.t no matter how much you dress it up
Personally, I’d like to go back the possibility of human error, and the referee and linesman making the call - at least that gave us supporters the opportunity for questionable decisions to be debated and discussed after the games
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You are debating and discussing questionable decisions after the game right now. VAR has not taken that away from you.
The only valid complain re VAR is interfering with flow of play. All others that I've seen are just caused by people being afraid to think and natural human opposition to changes.
comment by FOREST (U22817)
posted 29 minutes ago
Yeah, I definitely agree how some games had VAR and some didn’t especially in the same round of the competition - that’s really strange and seems unfair for all the clubs involved
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Why?
It would be unfair if they used VAR for one team and not the other team playing the same match. As it is now a contest between two teams was decided with or without VAR and so long as its the same for both the teams playing a single game then its not unfair
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posted on 21/3/22
Rewatch it bud. Definitely says it's on when he sees the lines. Not Dixon but the other guy.
posted on 21/3/22
OK
posted on 21/3/22
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/60809234
‘Was he onside, that’s the question…didn’t look it there…’
posted on 21/3/22
ITV
posted on 21/3/22
Anyway, it makes no difference whatsoever - as I said initially, the better team went through
I’m just questioning the point of VAR and whether it truly enhances the game…I’m not sure it does - but that’s just my personal opinion
posted on 21/3/22
I found it weird how they implemented it for this game suddenly. Also don't think some should have it and some not in the same competition. Also don't get the clear and obvious side of things, it's too subjective.
However, I think most forget when VAR gets things spot on.
posted on 21/3/22
Yeah, I definitely agree how some games had VAR and some didn’t especially in the same round of the competition - that’s really strange and seems unfair for all the clubs involved
posted on 21/3/22
I think it's more a case of the media images not being accurate and deceptive rather than VAR's interpretation. The have the lines to follow. We have Lee dixon 😂
Good luck to forest with the rest of the season.
posted on 21/3/22
There is no conspiracy, there is plenty of incompetence that we have seen with refs in our league games and to be honest with VAR I can take it better than the useless prats we have had recently!
The positive spin ……
Our fixture list is crazy busy until now and end of season, if we had of lost another weekend to the FA cup the only way we could have made up the game would have been to play Tues and Thurs in same week!
Actually all this has done us a favour, genuinely proud of our club and happy we have space to crack on with remaining 10 games
posted on 21/3/22
comment by FOREST (U22817)
posted 29 minutes ago
Yeah, I definitely agree how some games had VAR and some didn’t especially in the same round of the competition - that’s really strange and seems unfair for all the clubs involved
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Some clubs have more decent pitches, some better crowds. Is what it is, just a variable that allows more correct decisions than before. Sure there's a small cost but hey ho. Never understood the fans that would rather have wrong decisions so they can argue the to55 about them for decades after.
posted on 21/3/22
Also, not really one for wishing Liverpool luck as don’t care a great deal who actually wins the PL or CL.
But I would say, I can’t help but have massive respect for Klopp and his team, way they approach games and achievements they have already and of course what’s coming! It is a privilege to watch this all unfolding.
posted on 21/3/22
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 50 minutes ago
I'm not sure what commentary you were listening to but on ITV he called it inside immediately because he could see the VAR lines being drawn.
However, I do wish they'd just draw it from the feet. Done.
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The commentary I was listening to said he was offside. Then they disputed the decision during and after the game.
Admittedly, it was Paramount+ / TenPlay in Australia!
However, the English and Scottish commentators waxed lyrical about Liverpool throughout the game, so had no reason to call out what they saw and draw a sheety line on the screen.
Liverpool deserved the win. It wasn’t a penalty, but if VAR uses 28 cameras and angles and mics etc...then let’s see it in detail.
Drawing it from the feet ends the controversy.
If it can’t be decided for a goal then maybe just have a penalty?
Anyway, no hard feelings. Just calling what I saw and heard.
posted on 21/3/22
Drawing it from feet solves nothing - it just changes the point of controversy when there's a marginal call whatever part of the body is chosen.
posted on 21/3/22
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by FOREST (U22817)
posted 29 minutes ago
Yeah, I definitely agree how some games had VAR and some didn’t especially in the same round of the competition - that’s really strange and seems unfair for all the clubs involved
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Some clubs have more decent pitches, some better crowds. Is what it is, just a variable that allows more correct decisions than before. Sure there's a small cost but hey ho. Never understood the fans that would rather have wrong decisions so they can argue the to55 about them for decades after.
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Exactly - that’s the whole point
posted on 21/3/22
comment by FOREST (U22817)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by FOREST (U22817)
posted 29 minutes ago
Yeah, I definitely agree how some games had VAR and some didn’t especially in the same round of the competition - that’s really strange and seems unfair for all the clubs involved
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Some clubs have more decent pitches, some better crowds. Is what it is, just a variable that allows more correct decisions than before. Sure there's a small cost but hey ho. Never understood the fans that would rather have wrong decisions so they can argue the to55 about them for decades after.
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Exactly - that’s the whole point
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What a waste of your life - it's not exactly like there isn't lots of other useless sh.t to argue about.
posted on 21/3/22
useless sh.t is useless sh.t no matter how much you dress it up
posted on 22/3/22
Personally, I’d like to go back the possibility of human error, and the referee and linesman making the call - at least that gave us supporters the opportunity for questionable decisions to be debated and discussed after the games
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You are debating and discussing questionable decisions after the game right now. VAR has not taken that away from you.
The only valid complain re VAR is interfering with flow of play. All others that I've seen are just caused by people being afraid to think and natural human opposition to changes.
posted on 22/3/22
comment by FOREST (U22817)
posted 29 minutes ago
Yeah, I definitely agree how some games had VAR and some didn’t especially in the same round of the competition - that’s really strange and seems unfair for all the clubs involved
======
Why?
It would be unfair if they used VAR for one team and not the other team playing the same match. As it is now a contest between two teams was decided with or without VAR and so long as its the same for both the teams playing a single game then its not unfair
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