comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Ole dirty Baztard - penited and penandes (U19119)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 12 minutes ago
This will deter people turning to people smugglers.
This means fewer poor people drowning.
It also means those silly enough to, will still get a safe existence, in Rwanda.
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Yeah. It’s got a great track record for peace, good old Rwanda…
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Imagine risking your life fleeing an oppressive or war torn country only to be sent to another country that was itself war torn not too long ago
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Brutally too. Some of the stories from that genocide are harrowing
Maybe we should look at the vast sums of money th we government waste before trying to tax people even more.
The average brit will pay 32% tax on their income (Inc NI), heavy tax on their fuel, tax on the TV they watch, tax on the roads they drive on, tax on everything they purchase, heavy tax on the beer they drink and heavy tax to use the airport
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
The top 5% pay 50% of the tax that should actually be paying.
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So, only the top 5% of earners should pay tax?
You're maybe too young to remember the brain drain?
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When was the brain drain and what impact did tax rates play in causing it?
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FFS mate, my username isn't google
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😂😂 I did Google UK Brain Drain and it came up with a bunch of stuff about folk moving to London from the regions. Genuinely was not aware of there being one. Was this back in 1970s?
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60s and 70s. Up to 90% tax on income. The reason the most successful musicians left the U.K. too. The Beatles song Taxman was a whinge about it.
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Yeah, sorry bmcl. Been a long day. Tax was up at 99% highest rate for a long time. No point staying and many didnt.
https://delong.typepad.com/.a/6a00e551f080038834022ad3b5724c200d-pi
Maybe we should look at the vast sums of money th we government waste before trying to tax people even more.
———
We do this as well. But Tory bootlickers like yourself deflect and start talking about Labour.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 7 seconds ago
Maybe we should look at the vast sums of money th we government waste before trying to tax people even more.
The average brit will pay 32% tax on their income (Inc NI), heavy tax on their fuel, tax on the TV they watch, tax on the roads they drive on, tax on everything they purchase, heavy tax on the beer they drink and heavy tax to use the airport
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https://blogs-images.forbes.com/niallmccarthy/files/2017/11/20171129_Tax-1.jpg
Of course you have to compare what you get for that e.g. outstanding social care in Scandinavia, pay for your own health care in US.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
Maybe we should look at the vast sums of money th we government waste before trying to tax people even more.
The average brit will pay 32% tax on their income (Inc NI), heavy tax on their fuel, tax on the TV they watch, tax on the roads they drive on, tax on everything they purchase, heavy tax on the beer they drink and heavy tax to use the airport
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Amen. Also mp’s. Kickbacks need to stop. Subsidised fancy meals while in London and free expensive booze? Fack off. 2nd home in London? Fack off. Fack off ALL the peers. Pointless.
It's a bit of a leap to assume that the wealthiest 5% are the best brains in any given country. Plenty of highly intelligent people devote their talent and intellect to the benefit of others rather than to trying to hog all of the wealth themselves.
And that the economic health of the UK in the 70’s is in any way comparable to now.
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
And that the economic health of the UK in the 70’s is in any way comparable to now.
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It was still the 7th biggest economy in the world in 1973.
I guess Corbyn and Abbott would have dealt with Covid and the Ukrainian situation swimmingly.
++++
Corbyn and Abbott were not on the Labour front bench since April 2020. So how could they. K Starmer is the leader of the Labour party now.
Is this the best you have got?
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
And that the economic health of the UK in the 70’s is in any way comparable to now.
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It was still the 7th biggest economy in the world in 1973.
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It was the 5th largest in 1973.
it was the 2nd largest up to the first half of the 60s
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
And that the economic health of the UK in the 70’s is in any way comparable to now.
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It was still the 7th biggest economy in the world in 1973.
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It was the 5th largest in 1973.
it was the 2nd largest up to the first half of the 60s
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Take it up with Angus Maddison. Wiki quotes him.
This one has pictures
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wykaDgXoajc
But it didn’t have nearly the same surplus of wealth that it had now.
That graphic shows how much the UK went backwards during the Thatcher Years.
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 36 seconds ago
That graphic shows how much the UK went backwards during the Thatcher Years.
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well she did try and close UK manufacturing down
How can anyone complain or dare to criticise Margaret Thatcher, when she was clearly the 2nd best UK Prime Minister of the 20th Century?
comment by FOREST (U22817)
posted 3 minutes ago
How can anyone complain or dare to criticise Margaret Thatcher, when she was clearly the 2nd best UK Prime Minister of the 20th Century?
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maybe she was down your street.....
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 1 second ago
comment by FOREST (U22817)
posted 3 minutes ago
How can anyone complain or dare to criticise Margaret Thatcher, when she was clearly the 2nd best UK Prime Minister of the 20th Century?
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maybe she was down your street.....
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I lived in a Road not a Street
comment by FOREST (U22817)
posted 5 minutes ago
How can anyone complain or dare to criticise Margaret Thatcher, when she was clearly the 2nd best UK Prime Minister of the 20th Century?
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That's why our energy firms are now owned by the French, car companies are owned by the Germans and we now import our coal from Poland.
She was an EU mole all the time.
comment by FOREST (U22817)
posted 5 minutes ago
How can anyone complain or dare to criticise Margaret Thatcher, when she was clearly the 2nd best UK Prime Minister of the 20th Century?
—
Oh no, Rev is back under a new name.
comment by FOREST (U22817)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 1 second ago
comment by FOREST (U22817)
posted 3 minutes ago
How can anyone complain or dare to criticise Margaret Thatcher, when she was clearly the 2nd best UK Prime Minister of the 20th Century?
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maybe she was down your street.....
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I lived in a Road not a Street
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Were you not worried about getting hit by a car?
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 23 minutes ago
Even if we wanted them where do they stay? We have severe housing shortage. Need c. 350k/yr to be added for 10 years but in the last 10 we’ve only managed 150-200kpa. We are a small island with no economic strategy to spread wealth, jobs and housing so exacerbated by every cant wanting to stay in the SE.
For everyone saying ‘aw the shame’ can they tell us how many such migrants they want to bring in and how they are going to address the housing and trades shortage?
As a reference point the boat people are already 30kpa. The prison population in the U.K. is 90k and it costs c. £45-50k per head. I’m assuming the asylum seekers would be kept in prison like accommodation else they will do a runner. The processing time we keep hearing is1.5-2 years in all countries, in many cases exacerbated by migrants destroying all documentation so they can use the made up story they’ve read up on to say to meet the criteria. So say 50k migrants at any time that is gonna cost £2bn a year to process. Every year. And probably growing once word gets round that U.K. will welcome you at the border and put you up.
Now I know many of you will say £2bn is fine. What if the number doubles? Is that fine? And doubles again? That’s +1% on your tax or vat with no economic benefit to gdp. Unless we accept all the applications, somehow find them work but still, they have nowhere to stay and no likely realistic means of paying in any case.
What gives?
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Your comment seems predicated on the assumption these people won't contribute to society, these aren't all bums who want to doss around watching TV all day. These include people from all walks of life, with skills and valuable professional abilities to offer.
Seriously, these arguments have been going on for years and no-one listening, ever since Farage stood in front of poster to scare people into voting for him to sit in front of a TV all day and contribute feck all. People have shared studies on here that clearly show immigrants, on average, put more into the economy than they take out.
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No, my argument is based only on the time waiting for their asylum request to be processed. You are seeing what isn't there. Various parliamentary reports over the years say that migrants do contribute to the economy but at a very low level compared say with EEA immigrants.
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Are citizens of the EEA still allowed to immigrate to the U.K.?
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Yes
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by FOREST (U22817)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 1 second ago
comment by FOREST (U22817)
posted 3 minutes ago
How can anyone complain or dare to criticise Margaret Thatcher, when she was clearly the 2nd best UK Prime Minister of the 20th Century?
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maybe she was down your street.....
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I lived in a Road not a Street
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Were you not worried about getting hit by a car?
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🤣
He meant, he lived by a road. It did not have a house.
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by FOREST (U22817)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 1 second ago
comment by FOREST (U22817)
posted 3 minutes ago
How can anyone complain or dare to criticise Margaret Thatcher, when she was clearly the 2nd best UK Prime Minister of the 20th Century?
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maybe she was down your street.....
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I lived in a Road not a Street
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Were you not worried about getting hit by a car?
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Him being hit by a car would explain a lot.
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posted on 14/4/22
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Ole dirty Baztard - penited and penandes (U19119)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 12 minutes ago
This will deter people turning to people smugglers.
This means fewer poor people drowning.
It also means those silly enough to, will still get a safe existence, in Rwanda.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah. It’s got a great track record for peace, good old Rwanda…
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Imagine risking your life fleeing an oppressive or war torn country only to be sent to another country that was itself war torn not too long ago
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Brutally too. Some of the stories from that genocide are harrowing
posted on 14/4/22
Maybe we should look at the vast sums of money th we government waste before trying to tax people even more.
The average brit will pay 32% tax on their income (Inc NI), heavy tax on their fuel, tax on the TV they watch, tax on the roads they drive on, tax on everything they purchase, heavy tax on the beer they drink and heavy tax to use the airport
posted on 14/4/22
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
The top 5% pay 50% of the tax that should actually be paying.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So, only the top 5% of earners should pay tax?
You're maybe too young to remember the brain drain?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
When was the brain drain and what impact did tax rates play in causing it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
FFS mate, my username isn't google
----------------------------------------------------------------------
😂😂 I did Google UK Brain Drain and it came up with a bunch of stuff about folk moving to London from the regions. Genuinely was not aware of there being one. Was this back in 1970s?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
60s and 70s. Up to 90% tax on income. The reason the most successful musicians left the U.K. too. The Beatles song Taxman was a whinge about it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah, sorry bmcl. Been a long day. Tax was up at 99% highest rate for a long time. No point staying and many didnt.
https://delong.typepad.com/.a/6a00e551f080038834022ad3b5724c200d-pi
posted on 14/4/22
Maybe we should look at the vast sums of money th we government waste before trying to tax people even more.
———
We do this as well. But Tory bootlickers like yourself deflect and start talking about Labour.
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 7 seconds ago
Maybe we should look at the vast sums of money th we government waste before trying to tax people even more.
The average brit will pay 32% tax on their income (Inc NI), heavy tax on their fuel, tax on the TV they watch, tax on the roads they drive on, tax on everything they purchase, heavy tax on the beer they drink and heavy tax to use the airport
----------------------------------------------------------------------
https://blogs-images.forbes.com/niallmccarthy/files/2017/11/20171129_Tax-1.jpg
Of course you have to compare what you get for that e.g. outstanding social care in Scandinavia, pay for your own health care in US.
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
Maybe we should look at the vast sums of money th we government waste before trying to tax people even more.
The average brit will pay 32% tax on their income (Inc NI), heavy tax on their fuel, tax on the TV they watch, tax on the roads they drive on, tax on everything they purchase, heavy tax on the beer they drink and heavy tax to use the airport
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Amen. Also mp’s. Kickbacks need to stop. Subsidised fancy meals while in London and free expensive booze? Fack off. 2nd home in London? Fack off. Fack off ALL the peers. Pointless.
posted on 14/4/22
It's a bit of a leap to assume that the wealthiest 5% are the best brains in any given country. Plenty of highly intelligent people devote their talent and intellect to the benefit of others rather than to trying to hog all of the wealth themselves.
posted on 14/4/22
And that the economic health of the UK in the 70’s is in any way comparable to now.
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
And that the economic health of the UK in the 70’s is in any way comparable to now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It was still the 7th biggest economy in the world in 1973.
posted on 14/4/22
I guess Corbyn and Abbott would have dealt with Covid and the Ukrainian situation swimmingly.
++++
Corbyn and Abbott were not on the Labour front bench since April 2020. So how could they. K Starmer is the leader of the Labour party now.
Is this the best you have got?
posted on 14/4/22
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
And that the economic health of the UK in the 70’s is in any way comparable to now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It was still the 7th biggest economy in the world in 1973.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It was the 5th largest in 1973.
it was the 2nd largest up to the first half of the 60s
posted on 14/4/22
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
And that the economic health of the UK in the 70’s is in any way comparable to now.
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It was still the 7th biggest economy in the world in 1973.
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It was the 5th largest in 1973.
it was the 2nd largest up to the first half of the 60s
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Take it up with Angus Maddison. Wiki quotes him.
posted on 14/4/22
This one has pictures
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wykaDgXoajc
posted on 14/4/22
But it didn’t have nearly the same surplus of wealth that it had now.
posted on 14/4/22
That graphic shows how much the UK went backwards during the Thatcher Years.
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 36 seconds ago
That graphic shows how much the UK went backwards during the Thatcher Years.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
well she did try and close UK manufacturing down
posted on 14/4/22
How can anyone complain or dare to criticise Margaret Thatcher, when she was clearly the 2nd best UK Prime Minister of the 20th Century?
posted on 14/4/22
comment by FOREST (U22817)
posted 3 minutes ago
How can anyone complain or dare to criticise Margaret Thatcher, when she was clearly the 2nd best UK Prime Minister of the 20th Century?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
maybe she was down your street.....
posted on 14/4/22
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 1 second ago
comment by FOREST (U22817)
posted 3 minutes ago
How can anyone complain or dare to criticise Margaret Thatcher, when she was clearly the 2nd best UK Prime Minister of the 20th Century?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
maybe she was down your street.....
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I lived in a Road not a Street
posted on 14/4/22
comment by FOREST (U22817)
posted 5 minutes ago
How can anyone complain or dare to criticise Margaret Thatcher, when she was clearly the 2nd best UK Prime Minister of the 20th Century?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's why our energy firms are now owned by the French, car companies are owned by the Germans and we now import our coal from Poland.
She was an EU mole all the time.
posted on 14/4/22
comment by FOREST (U22817)
posted 5 minutes ago
How can anyone complain or dare to criticise Margaret Thatcher, when she was clearly the 2nd best UK Prime Minister of the 20th Century?
—
Oh no, Rev is back under a new name.
posted on 14/4/22
comment by FOREST (U22817)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 1 second ago
comment by FOREST (U22817)
posted 3 minutes ago
How can anyone complain or dare to criticise Margaret Thatcher, when she was clearly the 2nd best UK Prime Minister of the 20th Century?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
maybe she was down your street.....
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I lived in a Road not a Street
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Were you not worried about getting hit by a car?
posted on 14/4/22
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 23 minutes ago
Even if we wanted them where do they stay? We have severe housing shortage. Need c. 350k/yr to be added for 10 years but in the last 10 we’ve only managed 150-200kpa. We are a small island with no economic strategy to spread wealth, jobs and housing so exacerbated by every cant wanting to stay in the SE.
For everyone saying ‘aw the shame’ can they tell us how many such migrants they want to bring in and how they are going to address the housing and trades shortage?
As a reference point the boat people are already 30kpa. The prison population in the U.K. is 90k and it costs c. £45-50k per head. I’m assuming the asylum seekers would be kept in prison like accommodation else they will do a runner. The processing time we keep hearing is1.5-2 years in all countries, in many cases exacerbated by migrants destroying all documentation so they can use the made up story they’ve read up on to say to meet the criteria. So say 50k migrants at any time that is gonna cost £2bn a year to process. Every year. And probably growing once word gets round that U.K. will welcome you at the border and put you up.
Now I know many of you will say £2bn is fine. What if the number doubles? Is that fine? And doubles again? That’s +1% on your tax or vat with no economic benefit to gdp. Unless we accept all the applications, somehow find them work but still, they have nowhere to stay and no likely realistic means of paying in any case.
What gives?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Your comment seems predicated on the assumption these people won't contribute to society, these aren't all bums who want to doss around watching TV all day. These include people from all walks of life, with skills and valuable professional abilities to offer.
Seriously, these arguments have been going on for years and no-one listening, ever since Farage stood in front of poster to scare people into voting for him to sit in front of a TV all day and contribute feck all. People have shared studies on here that clearly show immigrants, on average, put more into the economy than they take out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, my argument is based only on the time waiting for their asylum request to be processed. You are seeing what isn't there. Various parliamentary reports over the years say that migrants do contribute to the economy but at a very low level compared say with EEA immigrants.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are citizens of the EEA still allowed to immigrate to the U.K.?
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Yes
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by FOREST (U22817)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 1 second ago
comment by FOREST (U22817)
posted 3 minutes ago
How can anyone complain or dare to criticise Margaret Thatcher, when she was clearly the 2nd best UK Prime Minister of the 20th Century?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
maybe she was down your street.....
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I lived in a Road not a Street
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Were you not worried about getting hit by a car?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
🤣
He meant, he lived by a road. It did not have a house.
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by FOREST (U22817)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 1 second ago
comment by FOREST (U22817)
posted 3 minutes ago
How can anyone complain or dare to criticise Margaret Thatcher, when she was clearly the 2nd best UK Prime Minister of the 20th Century?
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maybe she was down your street.....
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I lived in a Road not a Street
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Were you not worried about getting hit by a car?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Him being hit by a car would explain a lot.
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