It will be interesting to see if Ten Hag can get more out of the current bunch.
You could argue that every player that played today is not good enough to carry us forward.
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 5 minutes ago
It will be interesting to see if Ten Hag can get more out of the current bunch.
You could argue that every player that played today is not good enough to carry us forward.
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I doubt performances from the current bunch are that relevant. We have an interim coach. We know that, the players know that. They know he’s not exactly great at getting players to run through walls for him so I think all parties are seeing the season out.
Once the players sniff a new manager who actually has some power and control they’ll try again.
comment by Robbb Strange 🇺🇦 🇦🇺 🇪🇸 (U22716)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 5 minutes ago
It will be interesting to see if Ten Hag can get more out of the current bunch.
You could argue that every player that played today is not good enough to carry us forward.
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I doubt performances from the current bunch are that relevant. We have an interim coach. We know that, the players know that. They know he’s not exactly great at getting players to run through walls for him so I think all parties are seeing the season out.
Once the players sniff a new manager who actually has some power and control they’ll try again.
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I bloody hope so.
comment by Robbb Strange 🇺🇦 🇦🇺 🇪🇸 (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 5 minutes ago
It will be interesting to see if Ten Hag can get more out of the current bunch.
You could argue that every player that played today is not good enough to carry us forward.
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I doubt performances from the current bunch are that relevant. We have an interim coach. We know that, the players know that. They know he’s not exactly great at getting players to run through walls for him so I think all parties are seeing the season out.
Once the players sniff a new manager who actually has some power and control they’ll try again.
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This is still a problem, though. It’s just completely unprofessional and if players have this attitude we’re only a bad run away from this same shiiiiit happening again.
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbb Strange 🇺🇦 🇦🇺 🇪🇸 (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 5 minutes ago
It will be interesting to see if Ten Hag can get more out of the current bunch.
You could argue that every player that played today is not good enough to carry us forward.
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I doubt performances from the current bunch are that relevant. We have an interim coach. We know that, the players know that. They know he’s not exactly great at getting players to run through walls for him so I think all parties are seeing the season out.
Once the players sniff a new manager who actually has some power and control they’ll try again.
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This is still a problem, though. It’s just completely unprofessional and if players have this attitude we’re only a bad run away from this same shiiiiit happening again.
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It is but I’d imagine a few players being shipped out and new ones coming in will give the manager ‘his’ players which in turn will give him a power balance in his favour.
Depends on the players I guess. We need to be ruthless with this squad over the next year. That’s been a huge problem at the club, the players know they can coast and still remain at the club.
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 44 seconds ago
Depends on the players I guess. We need to be ruthless with this squad over the next year. That’s been a huge problem at the club, the players know they can coast and still remain at the club.
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This. Far too many have outstayed their welcome.
comment by Robbb Strange 🇺🇦 🇦🇺 🇪🇸 (U22716)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 5 minutes ago
It will be interesting to see if Ten Hag can get more out of the current bunch.
You could argue that every player that played today is not good enough to carry us forward.
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I doubt performances from the current bunch are that relevant. We have an interim coach. We know that, the players know that. They know he’s not exactly great at getting players to run through walls for him so I think all parties are seeing the season out.
Once the players sniff a new manager who actually has some power and control they’ll try again.
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That’s even more reason they should be kicked out.
It’s one thing to not be top quality but try hard, that can be worked with and coached on.
To just not try because “it doesn’t matter he’s not our full time boss”.
That should be eradicated.
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 14 seconds ago
Depends on the players I guess. We need to be ruthless with this squad over the next year. That’s been a huge problem at the club, the players know they can coast and still remain at the club.
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I think this particular bunch of players had an easy touch in Ole and didn’t really ever feel they had to go above and beyond their comfort zone while he was there. I think that’s what’s happened to Bruno. He probably wasn’t one of those types of players and came in all guns blazing but as time has gone on he’s been dragged down to the performance levels of the rest. Ronaldo is a phenom and will usually always turn up but the others are part of a ‘meh’ culture.
I don’t know much about Ten Hag but I assume he’s someone who won’t take shiiiit. He has an opportunity to really change the culture at the club and I really hope the powers that be above him give him carte blanche to wield a mighty stick.
I mean you just got beat 4-0 of Brighton ffs. Brighton don’t score goals, and it should have been 6-0 easy.
The entire lot need to be moved on over the next 2 seasons.
comment by Robbb Strange 🇺🇦 🇦🇺 🇪🇸 (U22716)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 14 seconds ago
Depends on the players I guess. We need to be ruthless with this squad over the next year. That’s been a huge problem at the club, the players know they can coast and still remain at the club.
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I think this particular bunch of players had an easy touch in Ole and didn’t really ever feel they had to go above and beyond their comfort zone while he was there. I think that’s what’s happened to Bruno. He probably wasn’t one of those types of players and came in all guns blazing but as time has gone on he’s been dragged down to the performance levels of the rest. Ronaldo is a phenom and will usually always turn up but the others are part of a ‘meh’ culture.
I don’t know much about Ten Hag but I assume he’s someone who won’t take shiiiit. He has an opportunity to really change the culture at the club and I really hope the powers that be above him give him carte blanche to wield a mighty stick.
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I’m not sure that’s true. We finished 2nd under Ole last season and reached a final with numerous come back wins.
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 8 minutes ago
Depends on the players I guess. We need to be ruthless with this squad over the next year. That’s been a huge problem at the club, the players know they can coast and still remain at the club.
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Gerrards last game we got whacked 6-1 by Stoke (Gerrard got our goal).
Only Henderson, Firmino, Milner and Gomez are still here from when Klopp joined and you'd have to think similar squad surgery will be needed.
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbb Strange 🇺🇦 🇦🇺 🇪🇸 (U22716)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 14 seconds ago
Depends on the players I guess. We need to be ruthless with this squad over the next year. That’s been a huge problem at the club, the players know they can coast and still remain at the club.
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I think this particular bunch of players had an easy touch in Ole and didn’t really ever feel they had to go above and beyond their comfort zone while he was there. I think that’s what’s happened to Bruno. He probably wasn’t one of those types of players and came in all guns blazing but as time has gone on he’s been dragged down to the performance levels of the rest. Ronaldo is a phenom and will usually always turn up but the others are part of a ‘meh’ culture.
I don’t know much about Ten Hag but I assume he’s someone who won’t take shiiiit. He has an opportunity to really change the culture at the club and I really hope the powers that be above him give him carte blanche to wield a mighty stick.
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I’m not sure that’s true. We finished 2nd under Ole last season and reached a final with numerous come back wins.
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The final was a result of failure though and the comebacks were as a result of often starting games badly and the better players bailing us out. People like Bruno and Rashford who for me aren’t the cancers in the dressing room. The ones that care.
Even under Ole they were a mentally flakey bunch. Scraping wins when playing shiiiiiit shouldn’t have detracted from the issues in the team.
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 8 minutes ago
Depends on the players I guess. We need to be ruthless with this squad over the next year. That’s been a huge problem at the club, the players know they can coast and still remain at the club.
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Gerrards last game we got whacked 6-1 by Stoke (Gerrard got our goal).
Only Henderson, Firmino, Milner and Gomez are still here from when Klopp joined and you'd have to think similar squad surgery will be needed.
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Exactly. Needs massive culling.
I can see only these (non youth) players being at the club as ETH goes into his third season
Sancho
Rashford (hopefully we convince him to stay)
Bruno
McT (as a purely squad player)
DDG (as we’ll never be able to shift him)
comment by Robbb Strange 🇺🇦 🇦🇺 🇪🇸 (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
I can see only these (non youth) players being at the club as ETH goes into his third season
Sancho
Rashford (hopefully we convince him to stay)
Bruno
McT (as a purely squad player)
DDG (as we’ll never be able to shift him)
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Gonna be bold and say Rashford to Arsenal this summer and Bruno won’t be at united in 2 seasons time.
comment by Robbb Strange 🇺🇦 🇦🇺 🇪🇸 (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
I can see only these (non youth) players being at the club as ETH goes into his third season
Sancho
Rashford (hopefully we convince him to stay)
Bruno
McT (as a purely squad player)
DDG (as we’ll never be able to shift him)
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I reckon you can add Fred, Varane and Shaw to that.
McTominay should go in the summer.
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbb Strange 🇺🇦 🇦🇺 🇪🇸 (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
I can see only these (non youth) players being at the club as ETH goes into his third season
Sancho
Rashford (hopefully we convince him to stay)
Bruno
McT (as a purely squad player)
DDG (as we’ll never be able to shift him)
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Gonna be bold and say Rashford to Arsenal this summer and Bruno won’t be at united in 2 seasons time.
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Possibly. I do think ETH will surprise us all and really like a player none of us can see coming. Someone like Telles or Martial
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 8 minutes ago
McTominay should go in the summer.
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So in addition to mata, matic and Pogba, lingard who are already leaving who would you ship out?
If i was in charge I’d look to shed
Martial
Maguire
McTominay
AWB
Don’t forget Jones, Bailly, Telles, Dalot, De Gea and Cavani.
I’d be inclined to keep Telles and Dalot as squad cover initially.
Shaw I’d move before Telles tbh.
You guys should push hard for Aaron Hickey, he’d be a great solution long term at left back imo.
Why? Telles and Dalot are facking shiiiiit. Even Shaw out of form is much better than Telles. He’s actually worse than Buttner.
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posted on 7/5/22
It will be interesting to see if Ten Hag can get more out of the current bunch.
You could argue that every player that played today is not good enough to carry us forward.
posted on 7/5/22
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 5 minutes ago
It will be interesting to see if Ten Hag can get more out of the current bunch.
You could argue that every player that played today is not good enough to carry us forward.
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I doubt performances from the current bunch are that relevant. We have an interim coach. We know that, the players know that. They know he’s not exactly great at getting players to run through walls for him so I think all parties are seeing the season out.
Once the players sniff a new manager who actually has some power and control they’ll try again.
posted on 7/5/22
comment by Robbb Strange 🇺🇦 🇦🇺 🇪🇸 (U22716)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 5 minutes ago
It will be interesting to see if Ten Hag can get more out of the current bunch.
You could argue that every player that played today is not good enough to carry us forward.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I doubt performances from the current bunch are that relevant. We have an interim coach. We know that, the players know that. They know he’s not exactly great at getting players to run through walls for him so I think all parties are seeing the season out.
Once the players sniff a new manager who actually has some power and control they’ll try again.
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I bloody hope so.
posted on 7/5/22
comment by Robbb Strange 🇺🇦 🇦🇺 🇪🇸 (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 5 minutes ago
It will be interesting to see if Ten Hag can get more out of the current bunch.
You could argue that every player that played today is not good enough to carry us forward.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I doubt performances from the current bunch are that relevant. We have an interim coach. We know that, the players know that. They know he’s not exactly great at getting players to run through walls for him so I think all parties are seeing the season out.
Once the players sniff a new manager who actually has some power and control they’ll try again.
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This is still a problem, though. It’s just completely unprofessional and if players have this attitude we’re only a bad run away from this same shiiiiit happening again.
posted on 7/5/22
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbb Strange 🇺🇦 🇦🇺 🇪🇸 (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 5 minutes ago
It will be interesting to see if Ten Hag can get more out of the current bunch.
You could argue that every player that played today is not good enough to carry us forward.
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I doubt performances from the current bunch are that relevant. We have an interim coach. We know that, the players know that. They know he’s not exactly great at getting players to run through walls for him so I think all parties are seeing the season out.
Once the players sniff a new manager who actually has some power and control they’ll try again.
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This is still a problem, though. It’s just completely unprofessional and if players have this attitude we’re only a bad run away from this same shiiiiit happening again.
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It is but I’d imagine a few players being shipped out and new ones coming in will give the manager ‘his’ players which in turn will give him a power balance in his favour.
posted on 7/5/22
Depends on the players I guess. We need to be ruthless with this squad over the next year. That’s been a huge problem at the club, the players know they can coast and still remain at the club.
posted on 8/5/22
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 44 seconds ago
Depends on the players I guess. We need to be ruthless with this squad over the next year. That’s been a huge problem at the club, the players know they can coast and still remain at the club.
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This. Far too many have outstayed their welcome.
posted on 8/5/22
comment by Robbb Strange 🇺🇦 🇦🇺 🇪🇸 (U22716)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 5 minutes ago
It will be interesting to see if Ten Hag can get more out of the current bunch.
You could argue that every player that played today is not good enough to carry us forward.
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I doubt performances from the current bunch are that relevant. We have an interim coach. We know that, the players know that. They know he’s not exactly great at getting players to run through walls for him so I think all parties are seeing the season out.
Once the players sniff a new manager who actually has some power and control they’ll try again.
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That’s even more reason they should be kicked out.
It’s one thing to not be top quality but try hard, that can be worked with and coached on.
To just not try because “it doesn’t matter he’s not our full time boss”.
That should be eradicated.
posted on 8/5/22
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 14 seconds ago
Depends on the players I guess. We need to be ruthless with this squad over the next year. That’s been a huge problem at the club, the players know they can coast and still remain at the club.
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I think this particular bunch of players had an easy touch in Ole and didn’t really ever feel they had to go above and beyond their comfort zone while he was there. I think that’s what’s happened to Bruno. He probably wasn’t one of those types of players and came in all guns blazing but as time has gone on he’s been dragged down to the performance levels of the rest. Ronaldo is a phenom and will usually always turn up but the others are part of a ‘meh’ culture.
I don’t know much about Ten Hag but I assume he’s someone who won’t take shiiiit. He has an opportunity to really change the culture at the club and I really hope the powers that be above him give him carte blanche to wield a mighty stick.
posted on 8/5/22
I mean you just got beat 4-0 of Brighton ffs. Brighton don’t score goals, and it should have been 6-0 easy.
The entire lot need to be moved on over the next 2 seasons.
posted on 8/5/22
comment by Robbb Strange 🇺🇦 🇦🇺 🇪🇸 (U22716)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 14 seconds ago
Depends on the players I guess. We need to be ruthless with this squad over the next year. That’s been a huge problem at the club, the players know they can coast and still remain at the club.
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I think this particular bunch of players had an easy touch in Ole and didn’t really ever feel they had to go above and beyond their comfort zone while he was there. I think that’s what’s happened to Bruno. He probably wasn’t one of those types of players and came in all guns blazing but as time has gone on he’s been dragged down to the performance levels of the rest. Ronaldo is a phenom and will usually always turn up but the others are part of a ‘meh’ culture.
I don’t know much about Ten Hag but I assume he’s someone who won’t take shiiiit. He has an opportunity to really change the culture at the club and I really hope the powers that be above him give him carte blanche to wield a mighty stick.
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I’m not sure that’s true. We finished 2nd under Ole last season and reached a final with numerous come back wins.
posted on 8/5/22
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 8 minutes ago
Depends on the players I guess. We need to be ruthless with this squad over the next year. That’s been a huge problem at the club, the players know they can coast and still remain at the club.
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Gerrards last game we got whacked 6-1 by Stoke (Gerrard got our goal).
Only Henderson, Firmino, Milner and Gomez are still here from when Klopp joined and you'd have to think similar squad surgery will be needed.
posted on 8/5/22
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbb Strange 🇺🇦 🇦🇺 🇪🇸 (U22716)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 14 seconds ago
Depends on the players I guess. We need to be ruthless with this squad over the next year. That’s been a huge problem at the club, the players know they can coast and still remain at the club.
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I think this particular bunch of players had an easy touch in Ole and didn’t really ever feel they had to go above and beyond their comfort zone while he was there. I think that’s what’s happened to Bruno. He probably wasn’t one of those types of players and came in all guns blazing but as time has gone on he’s been dragged down to the performance levels of the rest. Ronaldo is a phenom and will usually always turn up but the others are part of a ‘meh’ culture.
I don’t know much about Ten Hag but I assume he’s someone who won’t take shiiiit. He has an opportunity to really change the culture at the club and I really hope the powers that be above him give him carte blanche to wield a mighty stick.
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I’m not sure that’s true. We finished 2nd under Ole last season and reached a final with numerous come back wins.
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The final was a result of failure though and the comebacks were as a result of often starting games badly and the better players bailing us out. People like Bruno and Rashford who for me aren’t the cancers in the dressing room. The ones that care.
posted on 8/5/22
Even under Ole they were a mentally flakey bunch. Scraping wins when playing shiiiiiit shouldn’t have detracted from the issues in the team.
posted on 8/5/22
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 8 minutes ago
Depends on the players I guess. We need to be ruthless with this squad over the next year. That’s been a huge problem at the club, the players know they can coast and still remain at the club.
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Gerrards last game we got whacked 6-1 by Stoke (Gerrard got our goal).
Only Henderson, Firmino, Milner and Gomez are still here from when Klopp joined and you'd have to think similar squad surgery will be needed.
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Exactly. Needs massive culling.
posted on 8/5/22
I can see only these (non youth) players being at the club as ETH goes into his third season
Sancho
Rashford (hopefully we convince him to stay)
Bruno
McT (as a purely squad player)
DDG (as we’ll never be able to shift him)
posted on 8/5/22
comment by Robbb Strange 🇺🇦 🇦🇺 🇪🇸 (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
I can see only these (non youth) players being at the club as ETH goes into his third season
Sancho
Rashford (hopefully we convince him to stay)
Bruno
McT (as a purely squad player)
DDG (as we’ll never be able to shift him)
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Gonna be bold and say Rashford to Arsenal this summer and Bruno won’t be at united in 2 seasons time.
posted on 8/5/22
comment by Robbb Strange 🇺🇦 🇦🇺 🇪🇸 (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
I can see only these (non youth) players being at the club as ETH goes into his third season
Sancho
Rashford (hopefully we convince him to stay)
Bruno
McT (as a purely squad player)
DDG (as we’ll never be able to shift him)
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I reckon you can add Fred, Varane and Shaw to that.
posted on 8/5/22
McTominay should go in the summer.
posted on 8/5/22
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbb Strange 🇺🇦 🇦🇺 🇪🇸 (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
I can see only these (non youth) players being at the club as ETH goes into his third season
Sancho
Rashford (hopefully we convince him to stay)
Bruno
McT (as a purely squad player)
DDG (as we’ll never be able to shift him)
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Gonna be bold and say Rashford to Arsenal this summer and Bruno won’t be at united in 2 seasons time.
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Possibly. I do think ETH will surprise us all and really like a player none of us can see coming. Someone like Telles or Martial
posted on 8/5/22
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 8 minutes ago
McTominay should go in the summer.
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So in addition to mata, matic and Pogba, lingard who are already leaving who would you ship out?
If i was in charge I’d look to shed
Martial
Maguire
McTominay
AWB
posted on 8/5/22
Don’t forget Jones, Bailly, Telles, Dalot, De Gea and Cavani.
posted on 8/5/22
And Henderson.
posted on 8/5/22
I’d be inclined to keep Telles and Dalot as squad cover initially.
Shaw I’d move before Telles tbh.
You guys should push hard for Aaron Hickey, he’d be a great solution long term at left back imo.
posted on 8/5/22
Why? Telles and Dalot are facking shiiiiit. Even Shaw out of form is much better than Telles. He’s actually worse than Buttner.
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