I don’t think he will… football fans can be utter morons but when there’s a sensitive issue like this, I find the majority will round on the minority.
Might be wrong, but suspect he’ll actually receive more support most places he goes.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don’t think he will… football fans can be utter morons but when there’s a sensitive issue like this, I find the majority will round on the minority.
Might be wrong, but suspect he’ll actually receive more support most places he goes.
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Away at Millwall should be interesting.
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don’t think he will… football fans can be utter morons but when there’s a sensitive issue like this, I find the majority will round on the minority.
Might be wrong, but suspect he’ll actually receive more support most places he goes.
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Away at Millwall should be interesting.
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Good point, well made.
Should anyone care. Hope he gets on with his football. That's what he's paid to do.
Real equality is being treated like everyone else. No more no less.
Got to give the guy credit but I can’t help but feel this bloke is going to suffer a load of abuse from rival fans.
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Possibly. But doing it now, when the season is over will take the sting out of things, so to speak.
By the time the new season starts it's 3 months old news and will be far less of an issue than if it was the middle of the season and was playing again this weekend.
It's sad that it's such a big deal. It shouldn't have to be.
Some of the comments in reply to a Premier League tweet wishing him all the best are shocking.
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comment by Dr Tobias Fünke (U1217)
posted 29 minutes ago
It's sad that it's such a big deal. It shouldn't have to be.
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Yeah, this makes it easier for the next guy and then it gets normalised over time. It was a big thing when Viv Anderson played for England and the terraces were openly racist, but you combat prejudice one step a time.
He will obviously get some abuse from certain sections, which is unavoidable. I think he will also receive a lot of support. It's a more tolerable climate he's coming out in than it would have been years ago, I believe.
As good news as this is for the guy and for future gay footballers, hopefully it's not made too much of a fuss about, cause what we want is this to be treated like normality. We shouldn't care what sexuality a person is.
A small minority of douchebags that nobody agrees with will make a gesture or comment from time to time but the mainstream will shut them down. Especially if it gets them the clicks!
It's 2022 and 99% of people support other people's freedom to live their lives so this isn't a big deal.
If he makes it to the europa league level then he'll maybe have the odd issue travelling to Eastern Europe though.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 45 minutes ago
Some of the comments in reply to a Premier League tweet wishing him all the best are shocking.
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Truly so. My favourite was “stop this s*** there are only two genders” lol.
Fair play to the lad.
To those saying it shouldn’t matter the fact is that it does. The last time we had an openly gay footballer in this country he was driven to suicide. It like when people talk about race and say well meaning but empty platitudes like I don’t see colour. When we stop seeing the factors that lead to the structural marginalisation of certain groups of people, we reinforce the social systems that lead continue to work against them. That’s why this is important and needs to be acknowledged as such.
When we stop seeing the factors that lead to the structural marginalisation of certain groups of people, we reinforce the social systems that lead continue to work against them.
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Nerd
Well done to the lad. I hope it inspires others. Race, colour, creed or sexual preferences should not define anyone, I hope his career continues to flourish, unfortunately I feel he will get some much undeserved ribbing, but I hope he just laughs it off. Again, good luck to him, as long as he doesn’t score goals against my team, I wish him all the best.
Who cares if ge is Gay there is nothing wrong with it.
comment by AMG (U22768)
posted 19 minutes ago
Who cares if ge is Gay there is nothing wrong with it.
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A lot of people think there is something wrong with it, guess that’s the issue here, and probably people on this football forum included in that.
If he gets any abuse I hope they throw the book at anyone doing it. So brave what he’s doing but this could be a game changer. If he doesn’t get abuse and the sponsorship deals come rolling in, thankfully all those other guys suffering in the closet can come out and feel free in the knowledge that they’re not gonna get judged by their fellow man. My brother is gay and the idea of him getting abuse for his sexuality is just plain moronic. I’m quietly confident that any abuse this kid does get will be the quiet minority so screw them. They’re dinosaurs.
He's not a 1st team regular, will soon dissapear and nobody will remember him
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
He's not a 1st team regular, will soon dissapear and nobody will remember him
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He's 17. By all accounts he's got quite bright future ahead of him and I really hope he does. It'll be fun watching the homophobes squirm when he reaches the top of the game.
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 3 hours, 7 minutes ago
He's not a 1st team regular, will soon dissapear and nobody will remember him
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He's 17 ffs
comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 18 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 45 minutes ago
Some of the comments in reply to a Premier League tweet wishing him all the best are shocking.
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Truly so. My favourite was “stop this s*** there are only two genders” lol.
Fair play to the lad.
To those saying it shouldn’t matter the fact is that it does. The last time we had an openly gay footballer in this country he was driven to suicide. It like when people talk about race and say well meaning but empty platitudes like I don’t see colour. When we stop seeing the factors that lead to the structural marginalisation of certain groups of people, we reinforce the social systems that lead continue to work against them. That’s why this is important and needs to be acknowledged as such.
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100% Brilliantly put!
Was listening to MOTD Rest of the World top 10 podcast the other day. Lineker made a good point about how race, religion or whatever didn’t matter in the changing room, training ground or on the pitch, and how football is a great leveller in that regard.
Think it’s more worry about fans using being gay as banter and it inevitably going too far.
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 6 minutes ago
Was listening to MOTD Rest of the World top 10 podcast the other day. Lineker made a good point about how race, religion or whatever didn’t matter in the changing room, training ground or on the pitch, and how football is a great leveller in that regard.
Think it’s more worry about fans using being gay as banter and it inevitably going too far.
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This is something I've learnt from speaking to my brother, who's gay. I've definitely been in the pub before with a few mates where one of them will have said, when I'm behind everyone else on my rate of drinking "Come on, drink up gay boy". I used to brush that off as just a bit of a laugh between mates but all that 'banter' does is reinforce a stereotype. I'm not gay, no one around the table that day was gay but that shouldn't matter. Everyone has a duty to stop inflammatory language like that as, although the intention had nothing to do with sexuality, it did have everything to do with weakness or emasculating behaviour so in a sense it reinforces the idea that being gay is somehow lesser or lower than. I used to say it myself on occasion but I've stopped doing it now. As far as I'm concerned there's no room for 'gay banter' as even if it's well intentioned or mild, it's part of the building blocks of something far more damaging.
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posted on 16/5/22
I don’t think he will… football fans can be utter morons but when there’s a sensitive issue like this, I find the majority will round on the minority.
Might be wrong, but suspect he’ll actually receive more support most places he goes.
posted on 16/5/22
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don’t think he will… football fans can be utter morons but when there’s a sensitive issue like this, I find the majority will round on the minority.
Might be wrong, but suspect he’ll actually receive more support most places he goes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Away at Millwall should be interesting.
posted on 16/5/22
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don’t think he will… football fans can be utter morons but when there’s a sensitive issue like this, I find the majority will round on the minority.
Might be wrong, but suspect he’ll actually receive more support most places he goes.
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Away at Millwall should be interesting.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Good point, well made.
posted on 16/5/22
Should anyone care. Hope he gets on with his football. That's what he's paid to do.
Real equality is being treated like everyone else. No more no less.
posted on 16/5/22
Got to give the guy credit but I can’t help but feel this bloke is going to suffer a load of abuse from rival fans.
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Possibly. But doing it now, when the season is over will take the sting out of things, so to speak.
By the time the new season starts it's 3 months old news and will be far less of an issue than if it was the middle of the season and was playing again this weekend.
posted on 16/5/22
It's sad that it's such a big deal. It shouldn't have to be.
posted on 16/5/22
Some of the comments in reply to a Premier League tweet wishing him all the best are shocking.
posted on 16/5/22
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 16/5/22
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke (U1217)
posted 29 minutes ago
It's sad that it's such a big deal. It shouldn't have to be.
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Yeah, this makes it easier for the next guy and then it gets normalised over time. It was a big thing when Viv Anderson played for England and the terraces were openly racist, but you combat prejudice one step a time.
posted on 16/5/22
He will obviously get some abuse from certain sections, which is unavoidable. I think he will also receive a lot of support. It's a more tolerable climate he's coming out in than it would have been years ago, I believe.
As good news as this is for the guy and for future gay footballers, hopefully it's not made too much of a fuss about, cause what we want is this to be treated like normality. We shouldn't care what sexuality a person is.
posted on 16/5/22
A small minority of douchebags that nobody agrees with will make a gesture or comment from time to time but the mainstream will shut them down. Especially if it gets them the clicks!
It's 2022 and 99% of people support other people's freedom to live their lives so this isn't a big deal.
If he makes it to the europa league level then he'll maybe have the odd issue travelling to Eastern Europe though.
posted on 16/5/22
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 45 minutes ago
Some of the comments in reply to a Premier League tweet wishing him all the best are shocking.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Truly so. My favourite was “stop this s*** there are only two genders” lol.
Fair play to the lad.
To those saying it shouldn’t matter the fact is that it does. The last time we had an openly gay footballer in this country he was driven to suicide. It like when people talk about race and say well meaning but empty platitudes like I don’t see colour. When we stop seeing the factors that lead to the structural marginalisation of certain groups of people, we reinforce the social systems that lead continue to work against them. That’s why this is important and needs to be acknowledged as such.
posted on 16/5/22
When we stop seeing the factors that lead to the structural marginalisation of certain groups of people, we reinforce the social systems that lead continue to work against them.
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Nerd
posted on 16/5/22
Well done to the lad. I hope it inspires others. Race, colour, creed or sexual preferences should not define anyone, I hope his career continues to flourish, unfortunately I feel he will get some much undeserved ribbing, but I hope he just laughs it off. Again, good luck to him, as long as he doesn’t score goals against my team, I wish him all the best.
posted on 16/5/22
Who cares if ge is Gay there is nothing wrong with it.
posted on 16/5/22
comment by AMG (U22768)
posted 19 minutes ago
Who cares if ge is Gay there is nothing wrong with it.
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A lot of people think there is something wrong with it, guess that’s the issue here, and probably people on this football forum included in that.
posted on 16/5/22
If he gets any abuse I hope they throw the book at anyone doing it. So brave what he’s doing but this could be a game changer. If he doesn’t get abuse and the sponsorship deals come rolling in, thankfully all those other guys suffering in the closet can come out and feel free in the knowledge that they’re not gonna get judged by their fellow man. My brother is gay and the idea of him getting abuse for his sexuality is just plain moronic. I’m quietly confident that any abuse this kid does get will be the quiet minority so screw them. They’re dinosaurs.
posted on 17/5/22
He's not a 1st team regular, will soon dissapear and nobody will remember him
posted on 17/5/22
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
He's not a 1st team regular, will soon dissapear and nobody will remember him
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He's 17. By all accounts he's got quite bright future ahead of him and I really hope he does. It'll be fun watching the homophobes squirm when he reaches the top of the game.
posted on 17/5/22
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 3 hours, 7 minutes ago
He's not a 1st team regular, will soon dissapear and nobody will remember him
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He's 17 ffs
posted on 17/5/22
comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 18 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 45 minutes ago
Some of the comments in reply to a Premier League tweet wishing him all the best are shocking.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Truly so. My favourite was “stop this s*** there are only two genders” lol.
Fair play to the lad.
To those saying it shouldn’t matter the fact is that it does. The last time we had an openly gay footballer in this country he was driven to suicide. It like when people talk about race and say well meaning but empty platitudes like I don’t see colour. When we stop seeing the factors that lead to the structural marginalisation of certain groups of people, we reinforce the social systems that lead continue to work against them. That’s why this is important and needs to be acknowledged as such.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
100% Brilliantly put!
posted on 17/5/22
Was listening to MOTD Rest of the World top 10 podcast the other day. Lineker made a good point about how race, religion or whatever didn’t matter in the changing room, training ground or on the pitch, and how football is a great leveller in that regard.
Think it’s more worry about fans using being gay as banter and it inevitably going too far.
posted on 17/5/22
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 6 minutes ago
Was listening to MOTD Rest of the World top 10 podcast the other day. Lineker made a good point about how race, religion or whatever didn’t matter in the changing room, training ground or on the pitch, and how football is a great leveller in that regard.
Think it’s more worry about fans using being gay as banter and it inevitably going too far.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is something I've learnt from speaking to my brother, who's gay. I've definitely been in the pub before with a few mates where one of them will have said, when I'm behind everyone else on my rate of drinking "Come on, drink up gay boy". I used to brush that off as just a bit of a laugh between mates but all that 'banter' does is reinforce a stereotype. I'm not gay, no one around the table that day was gay but that shouldn't matter. Everyone has a duty to stop inflammatory language like that as, although the intention had nothing to do with sexuality, it did have everything to do with weakness or emasculating behaviour so in a sense it reinforces the idea that being gay is somehow lesser or lower than. I used to say it myself on occasion but I've stopped doing it now. As far as I'm concerned there's no room for 'gay banter' as even if it's well intentioned or mild, it's part of the building blocks of something far more damaging.
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