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21 dead in another school shooting

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posted on 25/5/22

comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 6 hours, 49 minutes ago
The day hasn't even ended here in the US and already everybody is in "fack the US" mode.

There's a time and a place and right now in the aftermath probably isn't it.

There will be discussions ongoing for many months I'm sure for us all to get stuck into. Which will inevitably lead to very little because you can't ban them in a country with 90 guns per 100 citizens, it's not remotely feasible.
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To be blunt this is the time and place to discuss these things. People who say now is notnthe time to discuss this are simply trying to prevent the discussion taking place until the next shooting when it won't be the time to discuss it again.

America averages a mass shooting more than once a day. If you cannot discuss gun laws in the aftermath of shootings then it is literally impossible to have that discussion which is what the pro-murder, NRA crowd are aiming for.
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I think for various reasons, it’s important that those outside the US discuss these events when they occur too.
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Why? Do you discuss mass shootings at length when it happens in other countries?

posted on 25/5/22

comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 5 minutes ago
Texas : Where the right to own a gun is placed above a woman's right to control her own body, or a child’s right to return home from elementary school alive.
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I don't agree with gun ownership as it stands in some states nor their stance on abortion but looking at it from s far and trying to remain in biased the gun lobbyists could claim more children and babies are eliminated through abortion than gun crime. There are all sorts of ethical and nonsensical aspects to be argued here.
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That's mad if they do, how does abortion even get bought up in a discussion about gun control?

posted on 25/5/22

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
comment by The Hybrid Doos (U10416)
posted 9 hours, 38 minutes ago
Can’t get over how easy it is to get a gun in America, can’t drink till you’re 21 but can buy a gun at 16.

The country is backwards, but still the gun laws won’t change.
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Cant even walk in a bar easily without ID ffs.
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you wanna try buying alcohol at our local Tesco if you either look under 40 or you have an underaged child with you at the till.

comment by JFDI (U1657)

posted on 25/5/22

comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 5 minutes ago
Texas : Where the right to own a gun is placed above a woman's right to control her own body, or a child’s right to return home from elementary school alive.
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I don't agree with gun ownership as it stands in some states nor their stance on abortion but looking at it from s far and trying to remain in biased the gun lobbyists could claim more children and babies are eliminated through abortion than gun crime. There are all sorts of ethical and nonsensical aspects to be argued here.
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That's mad if they do, how does abortion even get bought up in a discussion about gun control?
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I suspect automatic felt he was adding something.

posted on 25/5/22

comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 6 hours, 49 minutes ago
The day hasn't even ended here in the US and already everybody is in "fack the US" mode.

There's a time and a place and right now in the aftermath probably isn't it.

There will be discussions ongoing for many months I'm sure for us all to get stuck into. Which will inevitably lead to very little because you can't ban them in a country with 90 guns per 100 citizens, it's not remotely feasible.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

To be blunt this is the time and place to discuss these things. People who say now is notnthe time to discuss this are simply trying to prevent the discussion taking place until the next shooting when it won't be the time to discuss it again.

America averages a mass shooting more than once a day. If you cannot discuss gun laws in the aftermath of shootings then it is literally impossible to have that discussion which is what the pro-murder, NRA crowd are aiming for.
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I think for various reasons, it’s important that those outside the US discuss these events when they occur too.
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Why? Do you discuss mass shootings at length when it happens in other countries?
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I don’t do it every time it happens in the US, otherwise I wouldn’t ever get around to doing anything else, would I?

I think it’s important for the rest of the world to reflect on how the US arrived where it is present day, about its culture, about the proliferation of firearms, about the nature of political debate there, and about the influence of money in its politics.

There’s an awful lot there that isn’t replicated anywhere else in the developed world, and that we want to ensure we don’t end up replicating.

posted on 25/5/22

comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 5 minutes ago
Texas : Where the right to own a gun is placed above a woman's right to control her own body, or a child’s right to return home from elementary school alive.
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I don't agree with gun ownership as it stands in some states nor their stance on abortion but looking at it from s far and trying to remain in biased the gun lobbyists could claim more children and babies are eliminated through abortion than gun crime. There are all sorts of ethical and nonsensical aspects to be argued here.
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Here’s the number of children eliminated through abortion: 0.

Foetuses are eliminated through abortion, not children.

posted on 25/5/22

I don’t do it every time it happens in the US, otherwise I wouldn’t ever get around to doing anything else, would I?
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This did make me laugh.

comment by JFDI (U1657)

posted on 25/5/22

comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 5 minutes ago
Texas : Where the right to own a gun is placed above a woman's right to control her own body, or a child’s right to return home from elementary school alive.
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I don't agree with gun ownership as it stands in some states nor their stance on abortion but looking at it from s far and trying to remain in biased the gun lobbyists could claim more children and babies are eliminated through abortion than gun crime. There are all sorts of ethical and nonsensical aspects to be argued here.
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Here’s the number of children eliminated through abortion: 0.

Foetuses are eliminated through abortion, not children.
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Of course, I have no issues with abortion but others do, I try and look at an issue from as many sides as possible rather than my own personal perspective.

posted on 25/5/22

comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 5 minutes ago
Texas : Where the right to own a gun is placed above a woman's right to control her own body, or a child’s right to return home from elementary school alive.
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I don't agree with gun ownership as it stands in some states nor their stance on abortion but looking at it from s far and trying to remain in biased the gun lobbyists could claim more children and babies are eliminated through abortion than gun crime. There are all sorts of ethical and nonsensical aspects to be argued here.
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Here’s the number of children eliminated through abortion: 0.

Foetuses are eliminated through abortion, not children.
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Of course, I have no issues with abortion but others do, I try and look at an issue from as many sides as possible rather than my own personal perspective.
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posted on 25/5/22

Nothing will change until the NRA loses its power or a mass shooting directly affects certain congress/senators.

There's no reason whatsoever why universal background checks shouldn't be brought in at the absolute minimum.

posted on 25/5/22

comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 4 minutes ago
Nothing will change until the NRA loses its power or a mass shooting directly affects certain congress/senators.

There's no reason whatsoever why universal background checks shouldn't be brought in at the absolute minimum.
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But sometimes you just need an assault rifle or shotgun to defend your home against burglars with, like immediately, no?

posted on 25/5/22

too much $$ in firearms sales to ban them in 'Murica , where the $ is king

too much social conditioning in alot of 'Muricans for them to ever accept mass shootings are caused by their insane guns laws

Waste of time having these discussions, because nothing will change over there

posted on 25/5/22

Of course Stretty is on the side of the gun owners.

posted on 25/5/22

But you can’t enact social change without having these discussions.

posted on 25/5/22

comment by Dr Robbb πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡¦πŸ‡Ί πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Έ (U22716)
posted 4 minutes ago
Of course Stretty is on the side of the gun owners.
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No I'm actually not you idiot.

It however is futile to discuss what can be done at length, because nothing is gonna be done. And thats there problem. regardless of what darren or you or rosso say, Nothing will change.

Not our country, not our issue.

Sigh, call them idiots and move on with your day.

posted on 25/5/22

did biden come out and repeat what every other president says when one happens?

posted on 25/5/22

If we only talked about things that we can directly affect then it'd be quite a boring life.

posted on 25/5/22

comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 5 minutes ago
Texas : Where the right to own a gun is placed above a woman's right to control her own body, or a child’s right to return home from elementary school alive.
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I don't agree with gun ownership as it stands in some states nor their stance on abortion but looking at it from s far and trying to remain in biased the gun lobbyists could claim more children and babies are eliminated through abortion than gun crime. There are all sorts of ethical and nonsensical aspects to be argued here.
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A foetus isn’t a child, besides you can’t ban abortion, you can only ban safe and legal abortions.

If they want a return to backstreet practitioners and wire cost hangers at home, so be it.

comment by JFDI (U1657)

posted on 25/5/22

comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Dr Robbb πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡¦πŸ‡Ί πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Έ (U22716)
posted 4 minutes ago
Of course Stretty is on the side of the gun owners.
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No I'm actually not you idiot.

It however is futile to discuss what can be done at length, because nothing is gonna be done. And thats there problem. regardless of what darren or you or rosso say, Nothing will change.

Not our country, not our issue.

Sigh, call them idiots and move on with your day.
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It's amazing that when you try and look at something objectively people tend to incorrectly assume your position for you.

posted on 25/5/22

Robb does it a lot when he gets emotional on a subject.

posted on 25/5/22

comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 13 seconds ago
If we only talked about things that we can directly affect then it'd be quite a boring life.
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Like politics. I only have one vote. How is one vote going to affect anything?? That's why I don't vote and why countless millions like myself don't vote, because we are all just one person. We cannot make a difference.

comment by JFDI (U1657)

posted on 25/5/22

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 5 minutes ago
Texas : Where the right to own a gun is placed above a woman's right to control her own body, or a child’s right to return home from elementary school alive.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't agree with gun ownership as it stands in some states nor their stance on abortion but looking at it from s far and trying to remain in biased the gun lobbyists could claim more children and babies are eliminated through abortion than gun crime. There are all sorts of ethical and nonsensical aspects to be argued here.
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A foetus isn’t a child, besides you can’t ban abortion, you can only ban safe and legal abortions.

If they want a return to backstreet practitioners and wire cost hangers at home, so be it.
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Absolutely agree but all those points can and will be argued by both sides

posted on 25/5/22

comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Dr Robbb πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡¦πŸ‡Ί πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Έ (U22716)
posted 4 minutes ago
Of course Stretty is on the side of the gun owners.
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No I'm actually not you idiot.

It however is futile to discuss what can be done at length, because nothing is gonna be done. And thats there problem. regardless of what darren or you or rosso say, Nothing will change.

Not our country, not our issue.

Sigh, call them idiots and move on with your day.
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Apathy on these issues is never the answer. Just because you’ve lost hope doesn’t mean the world should just ignore it.

posted on 25/5/22

comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Dr Robbb πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡¦πŸ‡Ί πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Έ (U22716)
posted 4 minutes ago
Of course Stretty is on the side of the gun owners.
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No I'm actually not you idiot.

It however is futile to discuss what can be done at length, because nothing is gonna be done. And thats there problem. regardless of what darren or you or rosso say, Nothing will change.

Not our country, not our issue.

Sigh, call them idiots and move on with your day.
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As I’ve said, the reason to discuss these sorts of events isn’t to try to force or campaign for change in the US. As you’ve pointed out, we can’t do that from across the Atlantic.

It’s to try to understand what’s happening, why it’s happening and how the US ended up in the state that it’s in, so that we can learn lessons to ensure the same thing doesn’t happen elsewhere in the world.

posted on 25/5/22

comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Dr Robbb πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡¦πŸ‡Ί πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Έ (U22716)
posted 4 minutes ago
Of course Stretty is on the side of the gun owners.
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Well I did Na Zi that coming.

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