Cultures can change. It’s very difficult, but you only need to look at how different states have changed their voting patterns over the decades, as well as how the left in America is shifting. Places like Texas are probably beyond help, but that doesn’t mean others can’t have attitudes slowly changed.

It will be hard, for sure. But to accept it as a futile endeavour is irresponsible.

Irresponsible to some, logical to others. Horses for courses and all that.

It’s not logical at all. Even if the changes people wish to see don’t happen, you need resistance to make sure it doesn’t completely envelop all of society. From a British perspective it’s always a good thing to highlight how facking reeeetarded it is that people think this way about guns, so that it doesn’t seep into our culture.

Well yes, that is because as I have repeatedly said on many issues over the years stemming from a wide range of issues. Britain is not America, it never will be.

We're obsessed with them.

We are good over here, were never gonna have a gun control problem or anything resembling it. be thankful for that.


For them, the horse is bolted, they must lay in the bed of hay.

A start would be cutting away the republican dominance in areas like Texas and the rest of the red states and slowly suffocate the power of the NRA. I just saw on Twitter how much money the NRA give to many of the biggest names in the Republican Party. Once the NRA have eventually been neutered then someone can be done with resistance to gun laws being changed.

There’s a huge NRA convention this weekend. Hopefully a lightning bolt comes down and shocks everyone into waking up.

*something

America’s a cultural super power, it’s long influenced Britain. You are right that we won’t adopt their gun culture, but it’s because we always remind people how mental it is that it won’t happen.

People didn’t think Labor could win here against a Rupert Murdoch boosted Liberal/Nats coalition but it did happen. They devil wins when people think nothing can change and various nefarious media influences will have you believe the world is facked and nothing can be done by lil old us but that’s really not true.

The world is facked, but im vastly more concerned about just how facked Britain is to be worrying about the rest of it

Lobbying should be made illegal, end of.

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Lobbying should be made illegal, end of.
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Yep, it's basically bribery.

comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 3 minutes ago
The world is facked, but im vastly more concerned about just how facked Britain is to be worrying about the rest of it
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Yeah I do agree with that.

I find the obsession with American culture and politics embarrassing, particularly when it’s conflated with our own.

It’s worth discussing those problems, of course, but our domestic issues should be front and centre.

I've grown up shooting and own a gun (lovely side by side AYA 16) and although I shoot less these days and generally only do clays there is absolutely no reason, what so ever, to own an assault rifle. None.

Well there is one, to kill multiple humans quickly. That's literally what they are made more. Anyone who supports that is a bit of a cvnt if we're honest.

I can recommend a brilliant movie about the lobbying of the gun industry called Miss Sloane. Check it out.

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Of course Stretty is on the side of the gun owners.
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Well I did Na Zi that coming.

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Shut up you dozy fecking kunnnt. You are arguably the stupidest bloke on this entire site.

Shut up and keep it moving. The adults are talking.
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Yeah, f*ck off, whoever you are.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_gxiMTIudA

Great speech. While this goes on nothing will change imo.

But still, there is no legitimate reason to own an assault rifle. It's bizarre you can buy them.

Can you still buy assault rifles in US supermarkets?

(do they give loyalty club bonus points on such purchases?)

comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
Can you still buy assault rifles in US supermarkets?

(do they give loyalty club bonus points on such purchases?)
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The fact an 18 year old can buy an assault rifle with extended magazine anywhere is fvcking insane.

I'm not even anti gun but there is absolutely no way this should be possible.

The Nutjobs keep going on about the 2A. Where it says ‘well regulated militia’ yet don’t want regulation.

Idiots the lot of them.

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Can you still buy assault rifles in US supermarkets?

(do they give loyalty club bonus points on such purchases?)
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The fact an 18 year old can buy an assault rifle with extended magazine anywhere is fvcking insane.

I'm not even anti gun but there is absolutely no way this should be possible.
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He'd struggle to buy a beer

In Texas you don’t even need a licence to open carry

comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 23 minutes ago
Can you still buy assault rifles in US supermarkets?

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Assault rifles are banned in quite a few US States, luckily the one I live in being one of them, so you can not get them anywhere.

comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago

I think it’s important for the rest of the world to reflect on how the US arrived where it is present day, about its culture, about the proliferation of firearms, about the nature of political debate there, and about the influence of money in its politics.

There’s an awful lot there that isn’t replicated anywhere else in the developed world, and that we want to ensure we don’t end up replicating.
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How they arrived here doesn't take much working out.

All this bull about the right to defend one's family is merely a projection of their own approach to existence:

"I want something, I take it."

The one legitimate reason they had for enshrining the ownership of guns in their constitution, their wish to preserve their independence from their former colonial overlords, has long since expired.

The two other reasons they may once have had, namely to keep their slaves in check and be able to expand their territory even if that required all-out genocide, are so out of date that nowadays they'd both be considered crimes against humanity.

The justification for those acts was dressed up in a narrative of racial, cultural and even gender superiority, conveniently reinforced by the religious notion of predestination.

And as anachronistic as they are, these justifications remain deeply engrained in the national conservative psyche and are still enacted in different ways today.

These folk cannot conceive of a world where things are done through consensus, or where people cease to act on their own sense of greed or in Old Testament-style cold-blooded revenge.

All of the things they fear the most are the things they have done to the power of one hundred.

They fear the brown man, because if they were in his place they would be sticking a knife in their backs at the first opportunity.

They fear the foreigner, because if they were in his place, they'd be putting a bullet through his head.

They fear women not wanting their children, because if they were the ones who'd been raped, the last thing they'd want is to see their own sins reflected back to them through the eyes of their offspring.

Unfortunately, all of this can be sustained today through a diseased political system where a small percentage of the population can continue to trick and cheat their way into power.

For years, it has also been highly convenient for a nation that since "closing" its frontiers, looked out towards the rest of the world and saw there was plenty more "out there" too that they wanted to take for themselves too.

And if you want to take whatever you want from wherever you want, you better make sure that your people are perfectly comfortable with the idea of doing whatever it takes to get it. What better way than to make sure they get plenty of target practice back home?

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comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
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Can you still buy assault rifles in US supermarkets?

(do they give loyalty club bonus points on such purchases?)
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Assault rifles are banned in quite a few US States, luckily the one I live in being one of them, so you can not get them anywhere.

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Isnt part of the issue that there is no check or border between any of the states and so an assault rifle can be bought in a legal state and simple driven to a different one?

“In retrospect Sandy Hook marked the end of the gun control debate. Once America decided killing children was bearable”

Dan Hodges