Best article I've read for a very very long time. Good man!
What is doing a "Portsmouth" exactly? They won an FA Cup and look a better bet for promotion than we do. Considering Portsmouth have always been a tin-pot club, although the last few years has been a roller-coaster ride for them, I bet the majority of their fans would do it all again if they could. At least they knew where the money was going. Doing a "Forest" on the other hand, is flushing money down the loo, and getting poo in your face trying claw it back from the darkest depths of the latrine that is League 1. There aren't many clubs who would swap places with us right now.
"Whatever you say about Nigel Doughty, he has done his best to bring back the good times to the club. Thanks to his resources, we still have a club. "
You really believe that?? So without him you believe that forest would be gone for good??
He really hasd pulled the wool over forest fans eyes hasnt he.
He and he alone is instrumental in putting forest in the position they are in now, he has invested millions totally unwisely and given you nothing
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Great Article - well done
Would love to see a good ex player back but only for sentimental reasons.
MON won't come back (for all the reasons stated many times before)
Psycho won't (he's quite happy with U21's)
Roy Keane (not sure about this one)
NLN (hmmm)
BD - why apart from the obvious would you only want him to come in to see the season out coz come April we're back to square 1. Furthermore, do you honestly think MArthur would eat enough humble pie to approach him?
Very good article.
The one thing I may disagree with, though, is we do not really know what SM was told re the availability of funds, prior to his appointment. Therefore we cannot be sure that he was misled.
Doughty may have said, for example, " Steve, get this squad playing well and come the next two transfer windows, there will be some money to spend"
What we can be sure he didn't say was "Steve, get this squad playing like pants and we'll give you more money to buy players that you'll probably also get to play like pants"
Certainly, if I had millions to spare, I wouldn't have given it to SM to spend.
It's like giving a 24 handicap golfer a set of top o' the range golf clubs and expecting him to come down to single figures in a year.
Finally, for whatever the reason, the players must take a massive part of the blame for what has happened so far this season. Whether their manager is good or bad, does not stop them from putting in 100% effort every game nor does it affect their ability. They have let everyone down.
Excellent article points well put across. With regard to the Portsmouth issue, I certainly wouldn't want to be saddled with their kind of debt, just to have won the FA Cup, I seriously doubt their ability to achieve the play offs this season. It will be a very long time before they get their house financially in order, ours may not be perfect, but at least it is heading in the right direction.
Sheep 'IlkestonRam' back to your pen, did you not hear that loud popping sound at the weekend, it was your bubble bursting, didn't really take too long did it?
It was almost as predictable as SMc resigning.
"Doing a Portsmouth" means a crippling financial position, a future existence in serious doubt and a new owner every 6 weeks who decreases stability. That wasn't supposed to be a derrogatory expression BTW at Pompey, merely shorthand for the financial position. I certainly wouldn't describe them as tin-pot.
Nigel Doughty provided "adminstration-saving" financial commitment and a period of stability. You cannot argue with that - unless you're IlkestonRam of course.
IlkestonRam who write as if you believe you know what you are on about - and you think I've had the wool pulled over my eyes!?!? How ironic is that?
As for the SM being mis-sold the club CSS - well it was either that or he wasn't listening in the interview. Yes there was some talk on intro to the press day about youth development, but he has hammered and hammered about stellar signings just like Billy (even more so I would say) and there is clearly a yawning chasm between his mindset and ND/MA. From his own lips since his resignation has he said that the departure was about these differences in ambition. There cannot be any doubt he was mis-sold the club.
ForestJedi. I think there will always be doubt if he was mis-sold the club unless you were sat in the boardroom when the discussions took place.
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posted on 4/10/11
Best article I've read for a very very long time. Good man!
posted on 4/10/11
What is doing a "Portsmouth" exactly? They won an FA Cup and look a better bet for promotion than we do. Considering Portsmouth have always been a tin-pot club, although the last few years has been a roller-coaster ride for them, I bet the majority of their fans would do it all again if they could. At least they knew where the money was going. Doing a "Forest" on the other hand, is flushing money down the loo, and getting poo in your face trying claw it back from the darkest depths of the latrine that is League 1. There aren't many clubs who would swap places with us right now.
posted on 4/10/11
"Whatever you say about Nigel Doughty, he has done his best to bring back the good times to the club. Thanks to his resources, we still have a club. "
You really believe that?? So without him you believe that forest would be gone for good??
He really hasd pulled the wool over forest fans eyes hasnt he.
He and he alone is instrumental in putting forest in the position they are in now, he has invested millions totally unwisely and given you nothing
posted on 4/10/11
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posted on 4/10/11
Great Article - well done
Would love to see a good ex player back but only for sentimental reasons.
MON won't come back (for all the reasons stated many times before)
Psycho won't (he's quite happy with U21's)
Roy Keane (not sure about this one)
NLN (hmmm)
BD - why apart from the obvious would you only want him to come in to see the season out coz come April we're back to square 1. Furthermore, do you honestly think MArthur would eat enough humble pie to approach him?
posted on 4/10/11
Very good article.
The one thing I may disagree with, though, is we do not really know what SM was told re the availability of funds, prior to his appointment. Therefore we cannot be sure that he was misled.
Doughty may have said, for example, " Steve, get this squad playing well and come the next two transfer windows, there will be some money to spend"
What we can be sure he didn't say was "Steve, get this squad playing like pants and we'll give you more money to buy players that you'll probably also get to play like pants"
Certainly, if I had millions to spare, I wouldn't have given it to SM to spend.
It's like giving a 24 handicap golfer a set of top o' the range golf clubs and expecting him to come down to single figures in a year.
Finally, for whatever the reason, the players must take a massive part of the blame for what has happened so far this season. Whether their manager is good or bad, does not stop them from putting in 100% effort every game nor does it affect their ability. They have let everyone down.
posted on 4/10/11
Excellent article points well put across. With regard to the Portsmouth issue, I certainly wouldn't want to be saddled with their kind of debt, just to have won the FA Cup, I seriously doubt their ability to achieve the play offs this season. It will be a very long time before they get their house financially in order, ours may not be perfect, but at least it is heading in the right direction.
posted on 4/10/11
Sheep 'IlkestonRam' back to your pen, did you not hear that loud popping sound at the weekend, it was your bubble bursting, didn't really take too long did it?
It was almost as predictable as SMc resigning.
posted on 4/10/11
"Doing a Portsmouth" means a crippling financial position, a future existence in serious doubt and a new owner every 6 weeks who decreases stability. That wasn't supposed to be a derrogatory expression BTW at Pompey, merely shorthand for the financial position. I certainly wouldn't describe them as tin-pot.
Nigel Doughty provided "adminstration-saving" financial commitment and a period of stability. You cannot argue with that - unless you're IlkestonRam of course.
IlkestonRam who write as if you believe you know what you are on about - and you think I've had the wool pulled over my eyes!?!? How ironic is that?
As for the SM being mis-sold the club CSS - well it was either that or he wasn't listening in the interview. Yes there was some talk on intro to the press day about youth development, but he has hammered and hammered about stellar signings just like Billy (even more so I would say) and there is clearly a yawning chasm between his mindset and ND/MA. From his own lips since his resignation has he said that the departure was about these differences in ambition. There cannot be any doubt he was mis-sold the club.
posted on 4/10/11
ForestJedi. I think there will always be doubt if he was mis-sold the club unless you were sat in the boardroom when the discussions took place.
posted on 4/10/11
Good article by the way
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