comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 9 minutes ago
Scholay - if ronaldo leaves and we have no replacement. They basically want ten hag to be sacked because he will be
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I think that we would all like a replacement - especially with Greenwood looking to be out of the equation.
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 3 minutes ago
Stretford I think a major issue was our wingers and mid could create nothing tbh and defence was garbage. How many goals did we concede last season? Insane amounts! 57 coals conceded 🤣
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The problem was Ronaldo. He can't defend. Playing against the poor side Pool put out yesterday, it was another DDG elite performance at times. Martial and Rashford doing some world class pressing up top
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We have a manager who likes to press and a striker that is on the lowest 1% in Europe for pressing. Engage your brain for a minute and even you might be able to figure out how it might not work out.
Yeah but we had Ole Robb who you and everyone else said was total rubbish so you can't have it both ways even though you're blatantly doing that now.
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He was hence why no clubs are touching him with a barge pole. He was extremely lucky Bruno saved his job for a while but when Bruno’s form suffered Ole didn’t have anywhere to hide.
No matter who our manager is there is a level we’ll never fall below. So when a player or two is carrying us we’ll always be up and around the other big sides. Doesn’t mean there was any kind of amazing gameplan nor did we ever challenge for top prizes. Even the Europa run was a result of failure.
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 20 minutes ago
Ronaldo. Obviously. Ronaldo was better last season than martial has ever been in his career
what a ridiculous question.
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But the team wasn't clearly. Are you more bothered about Ronaldo doing well or the whole team?
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ronaldo was not the problem.
He was the solution to us not finishing in the bottom half.
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Booom. In their heads, these people believe we would've finished top 4 last year without Ronaldo and Ole/ Ralph in charge.
I genuinely wish we could go back, start last season without Ronaldo and see how it played out.
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We can never know for sure either way. But I think the main point most posters are making is that Ronaldo doesn't suit the new managers style of football and at 37 that isn't going to change.
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Bruno does not suit the new managers style, should we get rid of him? Elite managers make things work.
When Pep was asked what he would do with Messi or Ronaldo, his answer was obviously you can't expect these two to be running like madmen, but the currency of the game they are still elite at it. Ronaldo at City last year, title would've been wrapped up months earlier. They definitely would've destroyed Madrid
comment by Robb 🎶 Chrissy, wake up! 🎶 (U22716)
posted 26 seconds ago
Yeah but we had Ole Robb who you and everyone else said was total rubbish so you can't have it both ways even though you're blatantly doing that now.
——
He was hence why no clubs are touching him with a barge pole. He was extremely lucky Bruno saved his job for a while but when Bruno’s form suffered Ole didn’t have anywhere to hide.
No matter who our manager is there is a level we’ll never fall below. So when a player or two is carrying us we’ll always be up and around the other big sides. Doesn’t mean there was any kind of amazing gameplan nor did we ever challenge for top prizes. Even the Europa run was a result of failure.
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Well if so.... you can't say liverpool Chelsea and Spurs all had issues then can you if we had a terrible manager???
Surely we had one big problem too then right?
Jaime Carragher said before Ronaldo had even kicked a ball last season that he'd score goals but the team wouldn't improve and might even go backwards. How right he was.
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 20 minutes ago
Ronaldo. Obviously. Ronaldo was better last season than martial has ever been in his career
what a ridiculous question.
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But the team wasn't clearly. Are you more bothered about Ronaldo doing well or the whole team?
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ronaldo was not the problem.
He was the solution to us not finishing in the bottom half.
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Booom. In their heads, these people believe we would've finished top 4 last year without Ronaldo and Ole/ Ralph in charge.
I genuinely wish we could go back, start last season without Ronaldo and see how it played out.
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We can never know for sure either way. But I think the main point most posters are making is that Ronaldo doesn't suit the new managers style of football and at 37 that isn't going to change.
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Bruno does not suit the new managers style, should we get rid of him? Elite managers make things work.
When Pep was asked what he would do with Messi or Ronaldo, his answer was obviously you can't expect these two to be running like madmen, but the currency of the game they are still elite at it. Ronaldo at City last year, title would've been wrapped up months earlier. They definitely would've destroyed Madrid
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So you want our new manager to completely change his style to accommodate Ronaldo for 1 season, despite the fact he wants to leave? Sounds moronic to me. Much rather move him on and build a long term structure with the style of football that has brought him success.
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robb 🎶 Chrissy, wake up! 🎶 (U22716)
posted 26 seconds ago
Yeah but we had Ole Robb who you and everyone else said was total rubbish so you can't have it both ways even though you're blatantly doing that now.
——
He was hence why no clubs are touching him with a barge pole. He was extremely lucky Bruno saved his job for a while but when Bruno’s form suffered Ole didn’t have anywhere to hide.
No matter who our manager is there is a level we’ll never fall below. So when a player or two is carrying us we’ll always be up and around the other big sides. Doesn’t mean there was any kind of amazing gameplan nor did we ever challenge for top prizes. Even the Europa run was a result of failure.
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Well if so.... you can't say liverpool Chelsea and Spurs all had issues then can you if we had a terrible manager???
Surely we had one big problem too then right?
Jaime Carragher said before Ronaldo had even kicked a ball last season that he'd score goals but the team wouldn't improve and might even go backwards. How right he was.
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Anyone who watched us the season before Ronaldo joined knew there were plenty of problems. So many comebacks which suggested that we were rarely set up well and it needed the likes of Bruno and Rash to bail us out week after week.
That wasn’t sustainable and even if Ronaldo hadn’t joined Ole’s luck would have run out.
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 20 minutes ago
Ronaldo. Obviously. Ronaldo was better last season than martial has ever been in his career
what a ridiculous question.
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But the team wasn't clearly. Are you more bothered about Ronaldo doing well or the whole team?
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ronaldo was not the problem.
He was the solution to us not finishing in the bottom half.
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Booom. In their heads, these people believe we would've finished top 4 last year without Ronaldo and Ole/ Ralph in charge.
I genuinely wish we could go back, start last season without Ronaldo and see how it played out.
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We can never know for sure either way. But I think the main point most posters are making is that Ronaldo doesn't suit the new managers style of football and at 37 that isn't going to change.
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Bruno does not suit the new managers style, should we get rid of him? Elite managers make things work.
When Pep was asked what he would do with Messi or Ronaldo, his answer was obviously you can't expect these two to be running like madmen, but the currency of the game they are still elite at it. Ronaldo at City last year, title would've been wrapped up months earlier. They definitely would've destroyed Madrid
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“Bruno does not suit the new managers style, should we get rid of him?”
I don’t know where you’ve read this or if you think you’ve worked it out for yourself, but it’s such a terrible take it belies a complete misunderstanding of Bruno’s game or of Ten Hag’s principles or both.
I think the bigger issue with Ronaldo was him ruining the dressing room.
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 20 minutes ago
Ronaldo. Obviously. Ronaldo was better last season than martial has ever been in his career
what a ridiculous question.
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But the team wasn't clearly. Are you more bothered about Ronaldo doing well or the whole team?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
ronaldo was not the problem.
He was the solution to us not finishing in the bottom half.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Booom. In their heads, these people believe we would've finished top 4 last year without Ronaldo and Ole/ Ralph in charge.
I genuinely wish we could go back, start last season without Ronaldo and see how it played out.
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We can never know for sure either way. But I think the main point most posters are making is that Ronaldo doesn't suit the new managers style of football and at 37 that isn't going to change.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bruno does not suit the new managers style, should we get rid of him? Elite managers make things work.
When Pep was asked what he would do with Messi or Ronaldo, his answer was obviously you can't expect these two to be running like madmen, but the currency of the game they are still elite at it. Ronaldo at City last year, title would've been wrapped up months earlier. They definitely would've destroyed Madrid
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“Bruno does not suit the new managers style, should we get rid of him?”
I don’t know where you’ve read this or if you think you’ve worked it out for yourself, but it’s such a terrible take it belies a complete misunderstanding of Bruno’s game or of Ten Hag’s principles or both.
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It'll be both.
comment by Robb 🎶 Chrissy, wake up! 🎶 (U22716)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robb 🎶 Chrissy, wake up! 🎶 (U22716)
posted 26 seconds ago
Yeah but we had Ole Robb who you and everyone else said was total rubbish so you can't have it both ways even though you're blatantly doing that now.
——
He was hence why no clubs are touching him with a barge pole. He was extremely lucky Bruno saved his job for a while but when Bruno’s form suffered Ole didn’t have anywhere to hide.
No matter who our manager is there is a level we’ll never fall below. So when a player or two is carrying us we’ll always be up and around the other big sides. Doesn’t mean there was any kind of amazing gameplan nor did we ever challenge for top prizes. Even the Europa run was a result of failure.
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Well if so.... you can't say liverpool Chelsea and Spurs all had issues then can you if we had a terrible manager???
Surely we had one big problem too then right?
Jaime Carragher said before Ronaldo had even kicked a ball last season that he'd score goals but the team wouldn't improve and might even go backwards. How right he was.
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Anyone who watched us the season before Ronaldo joined knew there were plenty of problems. So many comebacks which suggested that we were rarely set up well and it needed the likes of Bruno and Rash to bail us out week after week.
That wasn’t sustainable and even if Ronaldo hadn’t joined Ole’s luck would have run out.
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Of course there were problems but we looked a far better team with Bruno Martial Rashford Cavani Greenwood.
It was far from perfect, I agree, but it was much better.
Ronaldo is all about Ronaldo. He's not a team player at all. Sadly we're not in a strong enough position to have the Ronaldo roadshow. We will operate better with a lesser player who is a better fit for the team.
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb 🎶 Chrissy, wake up! 🎶 (U22716)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robb 🎶 Chrissy, wake up! 🎶 (U22716)
posted 26 seconds ago
Yeah but we had Ole Robb who you and everyone else said was total rubbish so you can't have it both ways even though you're blatantly doing that now.
——
He was hence why no clubs are touching him with a barge pole. He was extremely lucky Bruno saved his job for a while but when Bruno’s form suffered Ole didn’t have anywhere to hide.
No matter who our manager is there is a level we’ll never fall below. So when a player or two is carrying us we’ll always be up and around the other big sides. Doesn’t mean there was any kind of amazing gameplan nor did we ever challenge for top prizes. Even the Europa run was a result of failure.
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Well if so.... you can't say liverpool Chelsea and Spurs all had issues then can you if we had a terrible manager???
Surely we had one big problem too then right?
Jaime Carragher said before Ronaldo had even kicked a ball last season that he'd score goals but the team wouldn't improve and might even go backwards. How right he was.
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Anyone who watched us the season before Ronaldo joined knew there were plenty of problems. So many comebacks which suggested that we were rarely set up well and it needed the likes of Bruno and Rash to bail us out week after week.
That wasn’t sustainable and even if Ronaldo hadn’t joined Ole’s luck would have run out.
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Of course there were problems but we looked a far better team with Bruno Martial Rashford Cavani Greenwood.
It was far from perfect, I agree, but it was much better.
Ronaldo is all about Ronaldo. He's not a team player at all. Sadly we're not in a strong enough position to have the Ronaldo roadshow. We will operate better with a lesser player who is a better fit for the team.
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Agreed.
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Let’s just remember though that the season before Ronaldo joined Martial scored a grand total of 7 goals in 45 games.
comment by Robb 🎶 Chrissy, wake up! 🎶 (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
Let’s just remember though that the season before Ronaldo joined Martial scored a grand total of 7 goals in 45 games.
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And we played better with him in the team than we did with Ronaldo.
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 20 minutes ago
Ronaldo. Obviously. Ronaldo was better last season than martial has ever been in his career
what a ridiculous question.
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But the team wasn't clearly. Are you more bothered about Ronaldo doing well or the whole team?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
ronaldo was not the problem.
He was the solution to us not finishing in the bottom half.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Booom. In their heads, these people believe we would've finished top 4 last year without Ronaldo and Ole/ Ralph in charge.
I genuinely wish we could go back, start last season without Ronaldo and see how it played out.
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We can never know for sure either way. But I think the main point most posters are making is that Ronaldo doesn't suit the new managers style of football and at 37 that isn't going to change.
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Bruno does not suit the new managers style, should we get rid of him? Elite managers make things work.
When Pep was asked what he would do with Messi or Ronaldo, his answer was obviously you can't expect these two to be running like madmen, but the currency of the game they are still elite at it. Ronaldo at City last year, title would've been wrapped up months earlier. They definitely would've destroyed Madrid
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So you want our new manager to completely change his style to accommodate Ronaldo for 1 season, despite the fact he wants to leave? Sounds moronic to me. Much rather move him on and build a long term structure with the style of football that has brought him success.
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The new managers style does not suit Bruno, should we sell him? You have changed the direction of the question and failed to answer my question bringing up nonsense
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Robb 🎶 Chrissy, wake up! 🎶 (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
Let’s just remember though that the season before Ronaldo joined Martial scored a grand total of 7 goals in 45 games.
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And we played better with him in the team than we did with Ronaldo.
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Not so much in 20/21. A lot of the football was poor and relied on Bruno dragging us through games. Rash too and to a lesser extent Greenwood.
There’s a legit argument that if Rash and Bruno weren’t exhausted from keeping Ole in a job before 21/22 and if Greenwood hadn’t done a naughty that we’d have been fine with Ronaldo in the side. He’s the escape goat but he walked into a side with a myriad of existing problems.
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 20 minutes ago
Ronaldo. Obviously. Ronaldo was better last season than martial has ever been in his career
what a ridiculous question.
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But the team wasn't clearly. Are you more bothered about Ronaldo doing well or the whole team?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
ronaldo was not the problem.
He was the solution to us not finishing in the bottom half.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Booom. In their heads, these people believe we would've finished top 4 last year without Ronaldo and Ole/ Ralph in charge.
I genuinely wish we could go back, start last season without Ronaldo and see how it played out.
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We can never know for sure either way. But I think the main point most posters are making is that Ronaldo doesn't suit the new managers style of football and at 37 that isn't going to change.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bruno does not suit the new managers style, should we get rid of him? Elite managers make things work.
When Pep was asked what he would do with Messi or Ronaldo, his answer was obviously you can't expect these two to be running like madmen, but the currency of the game they are still elite at it. Ronaldo at City last year, title would've been wrapped up months earlier. They definitely would've destroyed Madrid
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“Bruno does not suit the new managers style, should we get rid of him?”
I don’t know where you’ve read this or if you think you’ve worked it out for yourself, but it’s such a terrible take it belies a complete misunderstanding of Bruno’s game or of Ten Hag’s principles or both.
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It'll be both.
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Bruno king of wasting possession game suits Ten Hags philosophy? I look at the midfielders Ten Hag is going for it is quite clear to me the sort of midfielders he likes
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 20 minutes ago
Ronaldo. Obviously. Ronaldo was better last season than martial has ever been in his career
what a ridiculous question.
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But the team wasn't clearly. Are you more bothered about Ronaldo doing well or the whole team?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
ronaldo was not the problem.
He was the solution to us not finishing in the bottom half.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Booom. In their heads, these people believe we would've finished top 4 last year without Ronaldo and Ole/ Ralph in charge.
I genuinely wish we could go back, start last season without Ronaldo and see how it played out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We can never know for sure either way. But I think the main point most posters are making is that Ronaldo doesn't suit the new managers style of football and at 37 that isn't going to change.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bruno does not suit the new managers style, should we get rid of him? Elite managers make things work.
When Pep was asked what he would do with Messi or Ronaldo, his answer was obviously you can't expect these two to be running like madmen, but the currency of the game they are still elite at it. Ronaldo at City last year, title would've been wrapped up months earlier. They definitely would've destroyed Madrid
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“Bruno does not suit the new managers style, should we get rid of him?”
I don’t know where you’ve read this or if you think you’ve worked it out for yourself, but it’s such a terrible take it belies a complete misunderstanding of Bruno’s game or of Ten Hag’s principles or both.
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It'll be both.
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Bruno king of wasting possession game suits Ten Hags philosophy? I look at the midfielders Ten Hag is going for it is quite clear to me the sort of midfielders he likes
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Players like Hakim Ziyech...
It was much better overall, especially compared to the shiiiiit under Rangnick.
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 17 minutes ago
Martial is even more short term than ronaldo as he’s garbage
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Yeh - which is why I have repeatedly said that neither are the answer and we need another number 9. But again, that wasn't the point of the OP.
comment by Robb 🎶 Chrissy, wake up! 🎶 (U22716)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Robb 🎶 Chrissy, wake up! 🎶 (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
Let’s just remember though that the season before Ronaldo joined Martial scored a grand total of 7 goals in 45 games.
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And we played better with him in the team than we did with Ronaldo.
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Not so much in 20/21. A lot of the football was poor and relied on Bruno dragging us through games. Rash too and to a lesser extent Greenwood.
There’s a legit argument that if Rash and Bruno weren’t exhausted from keeping Ole in a job before 21/22 and if Greenwood hadn’t done a naughty that we’d have been fine with Ronaldo in the side. He’s the escape goat but he walked into a side with a myriad of existing problems.
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For the sake of trying to prove that Ronaldo is the problem, these imbeciles have made it up in their head we were playing beautiful football under Ole. I suppose they are right we were playing better and going nowhere. They would also have you believe we would've kicked on without Ronaldo last year. Likes of Scott Mctominay and Ole taking us to the glory days
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 20 minutes ago
Ronaldo. Obviously. Ronaldo was better last season than martial has ever been in his career
what a ridiculous question.
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But the team wasn't clearly. Are you more bothered about Ronaldo doing well or the whole team?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
ronaldo was not the problem.
He was the solution to us not finishing in the bottom half.
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Booom. In their heads, these people believe we would've finished top 4 last year without Ronaldo and Ole/ Ralph in charge.
I genuinely wish we could go back, start last season without Ronaldo and see how it played out.
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We can never know for sure either way. But I think the main point most posters are making is that Ronaldo doesn't suit the new managers style of football and at 37 that isn't going to change.
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Bruno does not suit the new managers style, should we get rid of him? Elite managers make things work.
When Pep was asked what he would do with Messi or Ronaldo, his answer was obviously you can't expect these two to be running like madmen, but the currency of the game they are still elite at it. Ronaldo at City last year, title would've been wrapped up months earlier. They definitely would've destroyed Madrid
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So you want our new manager to completely change his style to accommodate Ronaldo for 1 season, despite the fact he wants to leave? Sounds moronic to me. Much rather move him on and build a long term structure with the style of football that has brought him success.
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The new managers style does not suit Bruno, should we sell him? You have changed the direction of the question and failed to answer my question bringing up nonsense
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What is nonsense? That Ronaldo will only be here 1 year? That he doesn't suit ETH's style of play? That he wants to leave? All factual.
I am not sure that I agree that Bruno doesn't suit ETH's style, but even if he doesn't, he has more time to adapt than a player that is 10 years his senior.
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 20 minutes ago
Ronaldo. Obviously. Ronaldo was better last season than martial has ever been in his career
what a ridiculous question.
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But the team wasn't clearly. Are you more bothered about Ronaldo doing well or the whole team?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
ronaldo was not the problem.
He was the solution to us not finishing in the bottom half.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Booom. In their heads, these people believe we would've finished top 4 last year without Ronaldo and Ole/ Ralph in charge.
I genuinely wish we could go back, start last season without Ronaldo and see how it played out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We can never know for sure either way. But I think the main point most posters are making is that Ronaldo doesn't suit the new managers style of football and at 37 that isn't going to change.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bruno does not suit the new managers style, should we get rid of him? Elite managers make things work.
When Pep was asked what he would do with Messi or Ronaldo, his answer was obviously you can't expect these two to be running like madmen, but the currency of the game they are still elite at it. Ronaldo at City last year, title would've been wrapped up months earlier. They definitely would've destroyed Madrid
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“Bruno does not suit the new managers style, should we get rid of him?”
I don’t know where you’ve read this or if you think you’ve worked it out for yourself, but it’s such a terrible take it belies a complete misunderstanding of Bruno’s game or of Ten Hag’s principles or both.
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It'll be both.
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Bruno king of wasting possession game suits Ten Hags philosophy? I look at the midfielders Ten Hag is going for it is quite clear to me the sort of midfielders he likes
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And he may well move Bruno on. Fair enough if he does. I am not sure why your have suddenly brought Bruno into the argument. He is irrelevant to the topic being discussed.
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robb 🎶 Chrissy, wake up! 🎶 (U22716)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Robb 🎶 Chrissy, wake up! 🎶 (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
Let’s just remember though that the season before Ronaldo joined Martial scored a grand total of 7 goals in 45 games.
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And we played better with him in the team than we did with Ronaldo.
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Not so much in 20/21. A lot of the football was poor and relied on Bruno dragging us through games. Rash too and to a lesser extent Greenwood.
There’s a legit argument that if Rash and Bruno weren’t exhausted from keeping Ole in a job before 21/22 and if Greenwood hadn’t done a naughty that we’d have been fine with Ronaldo in the side. He’s the escape goat but he walked into a side with a myriad of existing problems.
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For the sake of trying to prove that Ronaldo is the problem, these imbeciles have made it up in their head we were playing beautiful football under Ole. I suppose they are right we were playing better and going nowhere. They would also have you believe we would've kicked on without Ronaldo last year. Likes of Scott Mctominay and Ole taking us to the glory days
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Yeh, nobody has said that at all. But keep on with your usual strawman BS, because you are unable to make a coherent argument of any kind.
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posted on 13/7/22
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 9 minutes ago
Scholay - if ronaldo leaves and we have no replacement. They basically want ten hag to be sacked because he will be
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I think that we would all like a replacement - especially with Greenwood looking to be out of the equation.
posted on 13/7/22
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 3 minutes ago
Stretford I think a major issue was our wingers and mid could create nothing tbh and defence was garbage. How many goals did we concede last season? Insane amounts! 57 coals conceded 🤣
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The problem was Ronaldo. He can't defend. Playing against the poor side Pool put out yesterday, it was another DDG elite performance at times. Martial and Rashford doing some world class pressing up top
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We have a manager who likes to press and a striker that is on the lowest 1% in Europe for pressing. Engage your brain for a minute and even you might be able to figure out how it might not work out.
posted on 13/7/22
Yeah but we had Ole Robb who you and everyone else said was total rubbish so you can't have it both ways even though you're blatantly doing that now.
——
He was hence why no clubs are touching him with a barge pole. He was extremely lucky Bruno saved his job for a while but when Bruno’s form suffered Ole didn’t have anywhere to hide.
No matter who our manager is there is a level we’ll never fall below. So when a player or two is carrying us we’ll always be up and around the other big sides. Doesn’t mean there was any kind of amazing gameplan nor did we ever challenge for top prizes. Even the Europa run was a result of failure.
posted on 13/7/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 20 minutes ago
Ronaldo. Obviously. Ronaldo was better last season than martial has ever been in his career
what a ridiculous question.
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But the team wasn't clearly. Are you more bothered about Ronaldo doing well or the whole team?
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ronaldo was not the problem.
He was the solution to us not finishing in the bottom half.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Booom. In their heads, these people believe we would've finished top 4 last year without Ronaldo and Ole/ Ralph in charge.
I genuinely wish we could go back, start last season without Ronaldo and see how it played out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We can never know for sure either way. But I think the main point most posters are making is that Ronaldo doesn't suit the new managers style of football and at 37 that isn't going to change.
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Bruno does not suit the new managers style, should we get rid of him? Elite managers make things work.
When Pep was asked what he would do with Messi or Ronaldo, his answer was obviously you can't expect these two to be running like madmen, but the currency of the game they are still elite at it. Ronaldo at City last year, title would've been wrapped up months earlier. They definitely would've destroyed Madrid
posted on 13/7/22
comment by Robb 🎶 Chrissy, wake up! 🎶 (U22716)
posted 26 seconds ago
Yeah but we had Ole Robb who you and everyone else said was total rubbish so you can't have it both ways even though you're blatantly doing that now.
——
He was hence why no clubs are touching him with a barge pole. He was extremely lucky Bruno saved his job for a while but when Bruno’s form suffered Ole didn’t have anywhere to hide.
No matter who our manager is there is a level we’ll never fall below. So when a player or two is carrying us we’ll always be up and around the other big sides. Doesn’t mean there was any kind of amazing gameplan nor did we ever challenge for top prizes. Even the Europa run was a result of failure.
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Well if so.... you can't say liverpool Chelsea and Spurs all had issues then can you if we had a terrible manager???
Surely we had one big problem too then right?
Jaime Carragher said before Ronaldo had even kicked a ball last season that he'd score goals but the team wouldn't improve and might even go backwards. How right he was.
posted on 13/7/22
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 20 minutes ago
Ronaldo. Obviously. Ronaldo was better last season than martial has ever been in his career
what a ridiculous question.
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But the team wasn't clearly. Are you more bothered about Ronaldo doing well or the whole team?
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ronaldo was not the problem.
He was the solution to us not finishing in the bottom half.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Booom. In their heads, these people believe we would've finished top 4 last year without Ronaldo and Ole/ Ralph in charge.
I genuinely wish we could go back, start last season without Ronaldo and see how it played out.
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We can never know for sure either way. But I think the main point most posters are making is that Ronaldo doesn't suit the new managers style of football and at 37 that isn't going to change.
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Bruno does not suit the new managers style, should we get rid of him? Elite managers make things work.
When Pep was asked what he would do with Messi or Ronaldo, his answer was obviously you can't expect these two to be running like madmen, but the currency of the game they are still elite at it. Ronaldo at City last year, title would've been wrapped up months earlier. They definitely would've destroyed Madrid
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So you want our new manager to completely change his style to accommodate Ronaldo for 1 season, despite the fact he wants to leave? Sounds moronic to me. Much rather move him on and build a long term structure with the style of football that has brought him success.
posted on 13/7/22
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robb 🎶 Chrissy, wake up! 🎶 (U22716)
posted 26 seconds ago
Yeah but we had Ole Robb who you and everyone else said was total rubbish so you can't have it both ways even though you're blatantly doing that now.
——
He was hence why no clubs are touching him with a barge pole. He was extremely lucky Bruno saved his job for a while but when Bruno’s form suffered Ole didn’t have anywhere to hide.
No matter who our manager is there is a level we’ll never fall below. So when a player or two is carrying us we’ll always be up and around the other big sides. Doesn’t mean there was any kind of amazing gameplan nor did we ever challenge for top prizes. Even the Europa run was a result of failure.
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Well if so.... you can't say liverpool Chelsea and Spurs all had issues then can you if we had a terrible manager???
Surely we had one big problem too then right?
Jaime Carragher said before Ronaldo had even kicked a ball last season that he'd score goals but the team wouldn't improve and might even go backwards. How right he was.
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Anyone who watched us the season before Ronaldo joined knew there were plenty of problems. So many comebacks which suggested that we were rarely set up well and it needed the likes of Bruno and Rash to bail us out week after week.
That wasn’t sustainable and even if Ronaldo hadn’t joined Ole’s luck would have run out.
posted on 13/7/22
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 20 minutes ago
Ronaldo. Obviously. Ronaldo was better last season than martial has ever been in his career
what a ridiculous question.
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But the team wasn't clearly. Are you more bothered about Ronaldo doing well or the whole team?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
ronaldo was not the problem.
He was the solution to us not finishing in the bottom half.
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Booom. In their heads, these people believe we would've finished top 4 last year without Ronaldo and Ole/ Ralph in charge.
I genuinely wish we could go back, start last season without Ronaldo and see how it played out.
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We can never know for sure either way. But I think the main point most posters are making is that Ronaldo doesn't suit the new managers style of football and at 37 that isn't going to change.
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Bruno does not suit the new managers style, should we get rid of him? Elite managers make things work.
When Pep was asked what he would do with Messi or Ronaldo, his answer was obviously you can't expect these two to be running like madmen, but the currency of the game they are still elite at it. Ronaldo at City last year, title would've been wrapped up months earlier. They definitely would've destroyed Madrid
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“Bruno does not suit the new managers style, should we get rid of him?”
I don’t know where you’ve read this or if you think you’ve worked it out for yourself, but it’s such a terrible take it belies a complete misunderstanding of Bruno’s game or of Ten Hag’s principles or both.
posted on 13/7/22
I think the bigger issue with Ronaldo was him ruining the dressing room.
posted on 13/7/22
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 20 minutes ago
Ronaldo. Obviously. Ronaldo was better last season than martial has ever been in his career
what a ridiculous question.
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But the team wasn't clearly. Are you more bothered about Ronaldo doing well or the whole team?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
ronaldo was not the problem.
He was the solution to us not finishing in the bottom half.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Booom. In their heads, these people believe we would've finished top 4 last year without Ronaldo and Ole/ Ralph in charge.
I genuinely wish we could go back, start last season without Ronaldo and see how it played out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We can never know for sure either way. But I think the main point most posters are making is that Ronaldo doesn't suit the new managers style of football and at 37 that isn't going to change.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bruno does not suit the new managers style, should we get rid of him? Elite managers make things work.
When Pep was asked what he would do with Messi or Ronaldo, his answer was obviously you can't expect these two to be running like madmen, but the currency of the game they are still elite at it. Ronaldo at City last year, title would've been wrapped up months earlier. They definitely would've destroyed Madrid
----------------------------------------------------------------------
“Bruno does not suit the new managers style, should we get rid of him?”
I don’t know where you’ve read this or if you think you’ve worked it out for yourself, but it’s such a terrible take it belies a complete misunderstanding of Bruno’s game or of Ten Hag’s principles or both.
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It'll be both.
posted on 13/7/22
comment by Robb 🎶 Chrissy, wake up! 🎶 (U22716)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robb 🎶 Chrissy, wake up! 🎶 (U22716)
posted 26 seconds ago
Yeah but we had Ole Robb who you and everyone else said was total rubbish so you can't have it both ways even though you're blatantly doing that now.
——
He was hence why no clubs are touching him with a barge pole. He was extremely lucky Bruno saved his job for a while but when Bruno’s form suffered Ole didn’t have anywhere to hide.
No matter who our manager is there is a level we’ll never fall below. So when a player or two is carrying us we’ll always be up and around the other big sides. Doesn’t mean there was any kind of amazing gameplan nor did we ever challenge for top prizes. Even the Europa run was a result of failure.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well if so.... you can't say liverpool Chelsea and Spurs all had issues then can you if we had a terrible manager???
Surely we had one big problem too then right?
Jaime Carragher said before Ronaldo had even kicked a ball last season that he'd score goals but the team wouldn't improve and might even go backwards. How right he was.
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Anyone who watched us the season before Ronaldo joined knew there were plenty of problems. So many comebacks which suggested that we were rarely set up well and it needed the likes of Bruno and Rash to bail us out week after week.
That wasn’t sustainable and even if Ronaldo hadn’t joined Ole’s luck would have run out.
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Of course there were problems but we looked a far better team with Bruno Martial Rashford Cavani Greenwood.
It was far from perfect, I agree, but it was much better.
Ronaldo is all about Ronaldo. He's not a team player at all. Sadly we're not in a strong enough position to have the Ronaldo roadshow. We will operate better with a lesser player who is a better fit for the team.
posted on 13/7/22
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb 🎶 Chrissy, wake up! 🎶 (U22716)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robb 🎶 Chrissy, wake up! 🎶 (U22716)
posted 26 seconds ago
Yeah but we had Ole Robb who you and everyone else said was total rubbish so you can't have it both ways even though you're blatantly doing that now.
——
He was hence why no clubs are touching him with a barge pole. He was extremely lucky Bruno saved his job for a while but when Bruno’s form suffered Ole didn’t have anywhere to hide.
No matter who our manager is there is a level we’ll never fall below. So when a player or two is carrying us we’ll always be up and around the other big sides. Doesn’t mean there was any kind of amazing gameplan nor did we ever challenge for top prizes. Even the Europa run was a result of failure.
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Well if so.... you can't say liverpool Chelsea and Spurs all had issues then can you if we had a terrible manager???
Surely we had one big problem too then right?
Jaime Carragher said before Ronaldo had even kicked a ball last season that he'd score goals but the team wouldn't improve and might even go backwards. How right he was.
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Anyone who watched us the season before Ronaldo joined knew there were plenty of problems. So many comebacks which suggested that we were rarely set up well and it needed the likes of Bruno and Rash to bail us out week after week.
That wasn’t sustainable and even if Ronaldo hadn’t joined Ole’s luck would have run out.
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Of course there were problems but we looked a far better team with Bruno Martial Rashford Cavani Greenwood.
It was far from perfect, I agree, but it was much better.
Ronaldo is all about Ronaldo. He's not a team player at all. Sadly we're not in a strong enough position to have the Ronaldo roadshow. We will operate better with a lesser player who is a better fit for the team.
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Agreed.
posted on 13/7/22
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posted on 13/7/22
Let’s just remember though that the season before Ronaldo joined Martial scored a grand total of 7 goals in 45 games.
posted on 13/7/22
comment by Robb 🎶 Chrissy, wake up! 🎶 (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
Let’s just remember though that the season before Ronaldo joined Martial scored a grand total of 7 goals in 45 games.
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And we played better with him in the team than we did with Ronaldo.
posted on 13/7/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 20 minutes ago
Ronaldo. Obviously. Ronaldo was better last season than martial has ever been in his career
what a ridiculous question.
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But the team wasn't clearly. Are you more bothered about Ronaldo doing well or the whole team?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
ronaldo was not the problem.
He was the solution to us not finishing in the bottom half.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Booom. In their heads, these people believe we would've finished top 4 last year without Ronaldo and Ole/ Ralph in charge.
I genuinely wish we could go back, start last season without Ronaldo and see how it played out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We can never know for sure either way. But I think the main point most posters are making is that Ronaldo doesn't suit the new managers style of football and at 37 that isn't going to change.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bruno does not suit the new managers style, should we get rid of him? Elite managers make things work.
When Pep was asked what he would do with Messi or Ronaldo, his answer was obviously you can't expect these two to be running like madmen, but the currency of the game they are still elite at it. Ronaldo at City last year, title would've been wrapped up months earlier. They definitely would've destroyed Madrid
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So you want our new manager to completely change his style to accommodate Ronaldo for 1 season, despite the fact he wants to leave? Sounds moronic to me. Much rather move him on and build a long term structure with the style of football that has brought him success.
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The new managers style does not suit Bruno, should we sell him? You have changed the direction of the question and failed to answer my question bringing up nonsense
posted on 13/7/22
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Robb 🎶 Chrissy, wake up! 🎶 (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
Let’s just remember though that the season before Ronaldo joined Martial scored a grand total of 7 goals in 45 games.
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And we played better with him in the team than we did with Ronaldo.
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Not so much in 20/21. A lot of the football was poor and relied on Bruno dragging us through games. Rash too and to a lesser extent Greenwood.
There’s a legit argument that if Rash and Bruno weren’t exhausted from keeping Ole in a job before 21/22 and if Greenwood hadn’t done a naughty that we’d have been fine with Ronaldo in the side. He’s the escape goat but he walked into a side with a myriad of existing problems.
posted on 13/7/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 20 minutes ago
Ronaldo. Obviously. Ronaldo was better last season than martial has ever been in his career
what a ridiculous question.
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But the team wasn't clearly. Are you more bothered about Ronaldo doing well or the whole team?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
ronaldo was not the problem.
He was the solution to us not finishing in the bottom half.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Booom. In their heads, these people believe we would've finished top 4 last year without Ronaldo and Ole/ Ralph in charge.
I genuinely wish we could go back, start last season without Ronaldo and see how it played out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We can never know for sure either way. But I think the main point most posters are making is that Ronaldo doesn't suit the new managers style of football and at 37 that isn't going to change.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bruno does not suit the new managers style, should we get rid of him? Elite managers make things work.
When Pep was asked what he would do with Messi or Ronaldo, his answer was obviously you can't expect these two to be running like madmen, but the currency of the game they are still elite at it. Ronaldo at City last year, title would've been wrapped up months earlier. They definitely would've destroyed Madrid
----------------------------------------------------------------------
“Bruno does not suit the new managers style, should we get rid of him?”
I don’t know where you’ve read this or if you think you’ve worked it out for yourself, but it’s such a terrible take it belies a complete misunderstanding of Bruno’s game or of Ten Hag’s principles or both.
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It'll be both.
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Bruno king of wasting possession game suits Ten Hags philosophy? I look at the midfielders Ten Hag is going for it is quite clear to me the sort of midfielders he likes
posted on 13/7/22
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 20 minutes ago
Ronaldo. Obviously. Ronaldo was better last season than martial has ever been in his career
what a ridiculous question.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But the team wasn't clearly. Are you more bothered about Ronaldo doing well or the whole team?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
ronaldo was not the problem.
He was the solution to us not finishing in the bottom half.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Booom. In their heads, these people believe we would've finished top 4 last year without Ronaldo and Ole/ Ralph in charge.
I genuinely wish we could go back, start last season without Ronaldo and see how it played out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We can never know for sure either way. But I think the main point most posters are making is that Ronaldo doesn't suit the new managers style of football and at 37 that isn't going to change.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bruno does not suit the new managers style, should we get rid of him? Elite managers make things work.
When Pep was asked what he would do with Messi or Ronaldo, his answer was obviously you can't expect these two to be running like madmen, but the currency of the game they are still elite at it. Ronaldo at City last year, title would've been wrapped up months earlier. They definitely would've destroyed Madrid
----------------------------------------------------------------------
“Bruno does not suit the new managers style, should we get rid of him?”
I don’t know where you’ve read this or if you think you’ve worked it out for yourself, but it’s such a terrible take it belies a complete misunderstanding of Bruno’s game or of Ten Hag’s principles or both.
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It'll be both.
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Bruno king of wasting possession game suits Ten Hags philosophy? I look at the midfielders Ten Hag is going for it is quite clear to me the sort of midfielders he likes
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Players like Hakim Ziyech...
posted on 13/7/22
It was much better overall, especially compared to the shiiiiit under Rangnick.
posted on 13/7/22
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 17 minutes ago
Martial is even more short term than ronaldo as he’s garbage
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Yeh - which is why I have repeatedly said that neither are the answer and we need another number 9. But again, that wasn't the point of the OP.
posted on 13/7/22
comment by Robb 🎶 Chrissy, wake up! 🎶 (U22716)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Robb 🎶 Chrissy, wake up! 🎶 (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
Let’s just remember though that the season before Ronaldo joined Martial scored a grand total of 7 goals in 45 games.
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And we played better with him in the team than we did with Ronaldo.
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Not so much in 20/21. A lot of the football was poor and relied on Bruno dragging us through games. Rash too and to a lesser extent Greenwood.
There’s a legit argument that if Rash and Bruno weren’t exhausted from keeping Ole in a job before 21/22 and if Greenwood hadn’t done a naughty that we’d have been fine with Ronaldo in the side. He’s the escape goat but he walked into a side with a myriad of existing problems.
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For the sake of trying to prove that Ronaldo is the problem, these imbeciles have made it up in their head we were playing beautiful football under Ole. I suppose they are right we were playing better and going nowhere. They would also have you believe we would've kicked on without Ronaldo last year. Likes of Scott Mctominay and Ole taking us to the glory days
posted on 13/7/22
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 20 minutes ago
Ronaldo. Obviously. Ronaldo was better last season than martial has ever been in his career
what a ridiculous question.
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But the team wasn't clearly. Are you more bothered about Ronaldo doing well or the whole team?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
ronaldo was not the problem.
He was the solution to us not finishing in the bottom half.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Booom. In their heads, these people believe we would've finished top 4 last year without Ronaldo and Ole/ Ralph in charge.
I genuinely wish we could go back, start last season without Ronaldo and see how it played out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We can never know for sure either way. But I think the main point most posters are making is that Ronaldo doesn't suit the new managers style of football and at 37 that isn't going to change.
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Bruno does not suit the new managers style, should we get rid of him? Elite managers make things work.
When Pep was asked what he would do with Messi or Ronaldo, his answer was obviously you can't expect these two to be running like madmen, but the currency of the game they are still elite at it. Ronaldo at City last year, title would've been wrapped up months earlier. They definitely would've destroyed Madrid
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So you want our new manager to completely change his style to accommodate Ronaldo for 1 season, despite the fact he wants to leave? Sounds moronic to me. Much rather move him on and build a long term structure with the style of football that has brought him success.
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The new managers style does not suit Bruno, should we sell him? You have changed the direction of the question and failed to answer my question bringing up nonsense
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What is nonsense? That Ronaldo will only be here 1 year? That he doesn't suit ETH's style of play? That he wants to leave? All factual.
I am not sure that I agree that Bruno doesn't suit ETH's style, but even if he doesn't, he has more time to adapt than a player that is 10 years his senior.
posted on 13/7/22
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 20 minutes ago
Ronaldo. Obviously. Ronaldo was better last season than martial has ever been in his career
what a ridiculous question.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But the team wasn't clearly. Are you more bothered about Ronaldo doing well or the whole team?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
ronaldo was not the problem.
He was the solution to us not finishing in the bottom half.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Booom. In their heads, these people believe we would've finished top 4 last year without Ronaldo and Ole/ Ralph in charge.
I genuinely wish we could go back, start last season without Ronaldo and see how it played out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We can never know for sure either way. But I think the main point most posters are making is that Ronaldo doesn't suit the new managers style of football and at 37 that isn't going to change.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bruno does not suit the new managers style, should we get rid of him? Elite managers make things work.
When Pep was asked what he would do with Messi or Ronaldo, his answer was obviously you can't expect these two to be running like madmen, but the currency of the game they are still elite at it. Ronaldo at City last year, title would've been wrapped up months earlier. They definitely would've destroyed Madrid
----------------------------------------------------------------------
“Bruno does not suit the new managers style, should we get rid of him?”
I don’t know where you’ve read this or if you think you’ve worked it out for yourself, but it’s such a terrible take it belies a complete misunderstanding of Bruno’s game or of Ten Hag’s principles or both.
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It'll be both.
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Bruno king of wasting possession game suits Ten Hags philosophy? I look at the midfielders Ten Hag is going for it is quite clear to me the sort of midfielders he likes
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And he may well move Bruno on. Fair enough if he does. I am not sure why your have suddenly brought Bruno into the argument. He is irrelevant to the topic being discussed.
posted on 13/7/22
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
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comment by Robb 🎶 Chrissy, wake up! 🎶 (U22716)
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comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
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comment by Robb 🎶 Chrissy, wake up! 🎶 (U22716)
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Let’s just remember though that the season before Ronaldo joined Martial scored a grand total of 7 goals in 45 games.
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And we played better with him in the team than we did with Ronaldo.
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Not so much in 20/21. A lot of the football was poor and relied on Bruno dragging us through games. Rash too and to a lesser extent Greenwood.
There’s a legit argument that if Rash and Bruno weren’t exhausted from keeping Ole in a job before 21/22 and if Greenwood hadn’t done a naughty that we’d have been fine with Ronaldo in the side. He’s the escape goat but he walked into a side with a myriad of existing problems.
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For the sake of trying to prove that Ronaldo is the problem, these imbeciles have made it up in their head we were playing beautiful football under Ole. I suppose they are right we were playing better and going nowhere. They would also have you believe we would've kicked on without Ronaldo last year. Likes of Scott Mctominay and Ole taking us to the glory days
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Yeh, nobody has said that at all. But keep on with your usual strawman BS, because you are unable to make a coherent argument of any kind.
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