pre season is obviously meaningful but not to base what will happen in the actual season on
think theyll have a better season (not hard) but still be bad
think theyll have a better season (not hard) but still be bad
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This. I don’t think they’ll go down.
I get that pre season is more about fitness, working on tactics and getting match sharpness.
However, they’ve yet to score in pre season and getting battered by a MLS side has to be worrying. Forest are having a real go in the transfer market and for my money look in better shape than Everton.
I can see them needing 3 of Fulham, Bournemouth, Southampton and Leeds to be worse than them - and I’m not sure they will be
issues off the field too isnt there, didnt they post a 400m loss over the last 3 seasons?
I doubt they'll go down. Bournemouth, Fulham, Brentford and probably Southampton will be below them I reckon. Possibly Forest too, though I think they'll have a decent season
It's a friendly where hosts of players are replaced throughout the game. This is why most people don't read into friendlies. Chelsea, with the third best squad in the league lost on penalties to an American team.
Liverpool lost 4-0 to United.
Friendlies are about testing new things, tactics, young players, fringe players and building fitness.
I don't see them being in a relegation fight this time.
I actually think they’ll go down I’m sorry to say as I quite like Everton as a club.
Don’t rate Lampard as a manager, they’ve sold their best or one of their best players, they’ve been in stagnation for a long time, and the kind of extended poor form they had throughout last season is difficult to overcome. Plus they don’t seem to have the money to strengthen their squad in the way that they need to.
Reminds me a little of Hamburg in Germany where you have a once storied club which people thought was always too good to go down, but continued to stagnate and stagnate and recruit incredibly poorly until the u thinkable happened and they were relegated.
MLS dominating the Prem last night.
Have Everton actually bought anyone yet? They’ll definitely finish bottom half with current group of players but i think they will avoid the drop again
comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
posted 11 minutes ago
I doubt they'll go down. Bournemouth, Fulham, Brentford and probably Southampton will be below them I reckon. Possibly Forest too, though I think they'll have a decent season
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I think Leeds may struggle too...
Everton - 4th bottom at best
A bit like spurs 4th top at best
Pre-season is all about fitness, take the results with a pinch of salt.
comment by Pranks - Going for the JA LFC FF 3peat (U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
Everton - 4th bottom at best
A bit like spurs 4th top at best
Pre-season is all about fitness, take the results with a pinch of salt.
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12th at best
3rd at best
agreed
comment by Son Of Gunnersaurus a.k.a SoG (U1310)
posted 7 minutes ago
Have Everton actually bought anyone yet? They’ll definitely finish bottom half with current group of players but i think they will avoid the drop again
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I think Mee from Burnley or at least one of their central defenders. They are also apparently interested in Cornet from Burnley so doesn’t inspire much confidence.
The thing with Everton is that they narrowly avoided the drop last season, can’t strengthen due to financial constraints and have sold their best player.
They have a novice manager who quite often looks out of depth at this level and a group of players with next to no quality.
Forest will have vociferous support from the start and a real buzz around the place.
Bournemouth and Fulham will drop in my opinion.
Brentford have a real togetherness and a decent manager.
Leeds and Southampton will be Everton’s rivals - Leeds have spent pretty well but lost their best players and again have a novice manager. Ralph and Southampton are streaky - but they have retained JWP so if they can get a Broja replacement they won’t be worse off.
Everton and Leeds fighting for fourth bottom I reckon
comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Son Of Gunnersaurus a.k.a SoG (U1310)
posted 7 minutes ago
Have Everton actually bought anyone yet? They’ll definitely finish bottom half with current group of players but i think they will avoid the drop again
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I think Mee from Burnley or at least one of their central defenders. They are also apparently interested in Cornet from Burnley so doesn’t inspire much confidence.
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They bought Tarkowski
Chelsea, with the third best squad in the league
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spurs now have the 3rd best squad in the league
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Arsenal shat it on 16/01/22 - Todger (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Son Of Gunnersaurus a.k.a SoG (U1310)
posted 7 minutes ago
Have Everton actually bought anyone yet? They’ll definitely finish bottom half with current group of players but i think they will avoid the drop again
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I think Mee from Burnley or at least one of their central defenders. They are also apparently interested in Cornet from Burnley so doesn’t inspire much confidence.
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They bought Tarkowski
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Wasn't he free?
comment by Chronic - THFC North London's finest (U3423)
posted 2 seconds ago
Chelsea, with the third best squad in the league
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spurs now have the 3rd best squad in the league
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no they don't, the best 3 are us, chelsea and city.
Spurs have signed maybe one starter in Bissouma who is a good player.
The rest just make up the numbers, no one really stands out all from the others.
comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Arsenal shat it on 16/01/22 - Todger (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Son Of Gunnersaurus a.k.a SoG (U1310)
posted 7 minutes ago
Have Everton actually bought anyone yet? They’ll definitely finish bottom half with current group of players but i think they will avoid the drop again
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I think Mee from Burnley or at least one of their central defenders. They are also apparently interested in Cornet from Burnley so doesn’t inspire much confidence.
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They bought Tarkowski
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Wasn't he free?
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Yes, that’s what I meant - he is the player they have taken from Burnley - not Ben Mee
Pickford
Patterson Mina Tarkowski Mykolenko
Doucoure Allan Gomes
Gordon DCL Gray
Keane, Godfrey, Townsend, Iwobi, Coleman
should still have enough to stay up.
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Arsenal shat it on 16/01/22 - Todger (U18109)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Son Of Gunnersaurus a.k.a SoG (U1310)
posted 7 minutes ago
Have Everton actually bought anyone yet? They’ll definitely finish bottom half with current group of players but i think they will avoid the drop again
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I think Mee from Burnley or at least one of their central defenders. They are also apparently interested in Cornet from Burnley so doesn’t inspire much confidence.
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They bought Tarkowski
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Oh right okay. I knew it was one of the Burnley defenders just didn’t know which. Tarkowski is actually a decent signing but they need to do a lot more.
comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 6 seconds ago
Pickford
Patterson Mina Tarkowski Mykolenko
Doucoure Allan Gomes
Gordon DCL Gray
Keane, Godfrey, Townsend, Iwobi, Coleman
should still have enough to stay up.
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That bench is super weak. They are a couple of injuries away from disaster.
comment by Pranks - Going for the JA LFC FF 3peat (U22336)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Chronic - THFC North London's finest (U3423)
posted 2 seconds ago
Chelsea, with the third best squad in the league
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spurs now have the 3rd best squad in the league
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no they don't, the best 3 are us, chelsea and city.
Spurs have signed maybe one starter in Bissouma who is a good player.
The rest just make up the numbers, no one really stands out all from the others.
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Perisic starts as does Lenglet, so not just Bissouma. Richarlison offers much needed cover.
Liverpool have arguably not signed a single player that will be a starter next season if Darwin’s pre season form is anything to go by.
Our squad is better than Chelsea’s currently
comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 2 minutes ago
Pickford
Patterson Mina Tarkowski Mykolenko
Doucoure Allan Gomes
Gordon DCL Gray
Keane, Godfrey, Townsend, Iwobi, Coleman
should still have enough to stay up.
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Mina - always injured
DCL - one stand out season plus injury issues
Gomes, Allan, Doucoure - absolutely no creativity, just crabs and cloggers
Their only chance is Mina staying fit and Gordon go up a level.
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posted on 21/7/22
Everton are going down
posted on 21/7/22
pre season is obviously meaningful but not to base what will happen in the actual season on
think theyll have a better season (not hard) but still be bad
posted on 21/7/22
think theyll have a better season (not hard) but still be bad
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This. I don’t think they’ll go down.
posted on 21/7/22
I get that pre season is more about fitness, working on tactics and getting match sharpness.
However, they’ve yet to score in pre season and getting battered by a MLS side has to be worrying. Forest are having a real go in the transfer market and for my money look in better shape than Everton.
I can see them needing 3 of Fulham, Bournemouth, Southampton and Leeds to be worse than them - and I’m not sure they will be
posted on 21/7/22
issues off the field too isnt there, didnt they post a 400m loss over the last 3 seasons?
posted on 21/7/22
I doubt they'll go down. Bournemouth, Fulham, Brentford and probably Southampton will be below them I reckon. Possibly Forest too, though I think they'll have a decent season
posted on 21/7/22
It's a friendly where hosts of players are replaced throughout the game. This is why most people don't read into friendlies. Chelsea, with the third best squad in the league lost on penalties to an American team.
Liverpool lost 4-0 to United.
Friendlies are about testing new things, tactics, young players, fringe players and building fitness.
I don't see them being in a relegation fight this time.
posted on 21/7/22
I actually think they’ll go down I’m sorry to say as I quite like Everton as a club.
Don’t rate Lampard as a manager, they’ve sold their best or one of their best players, they’ve been in stagnation for a long time, and the kind of extended poor form they had throughout last season is difficult to overcome. Plus they don’t seem to have the money to strengthen their squad in the way that they need to.
Reminds me a little of Hamburg in Germany where you have a once storied club which people thought was always too good to go down, but continued to stagnate and stagnate and recruit incredibly poorly until the u thinkable happened and they were relegated.
posted on 21/7/22
MLS dominating the Prem last night.
posted on 21/7/22
Have Everton actually bought anyone yet? They’ll definitely finish bottom half with current group of players but i think they will avoid the drop again
posted on 21/7/22
comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
posted 11 minutes ago
I doubt they'll go down. Bournemouth, Fulham, Brentford and probably Southampton will be below them I reckon. Possibly Forest too, though I think they'll have a decent season
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I think Leeds may struggle too...
posted on 21/7/22
Everton - 4th bottom at best
A bit like spurs 4th top at best
Pre-season is all about fitness, take the results with a pinch of salt.
posted on 21/7/22
comment by Pranks - Going for the JA LFC FF 3peat (U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
Everton - 4th bottom at best
A bit like spurs 4th top at best
Pre-season is all about fitness, take the results with a pinch of salt.
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12th at best
3rd at best
agreed
posted on 21/7/22
comment by Son Of Gunnersaurus a.k.a SoG (U1310)
posted 7 minutes ago
Have Everton actually bought anyone yet? They’ll definitely finish bottom half with current group of players but i think they will avoid the drop again
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I think Mee from Burnley or at least one of their central defenders. They are also apparently interested in Cornet from Burnley so doesn’t inspire much confidence.
posted on 21/7/22
The thing with Everton is that they narrowly avoided the drop last season, can’t strengthen due to financial constraints and have sold their best player.
They have a novice manager who quite often looks out of depth at this level and a group of players with next to no quality.
Forest will have vociferous support from the start and a real buzz around the place.
Bournemouth and Fulham will drop in my opinion.
Brentford have a real togetherness and a decent manager.
Leeds and Southampton will be Everton’s rivals - Leeds have spent pretty well but lost their best players and again have a novice manager. Ralph and Southampton are streaky - but they have retained JWP so if they can get a Broja replacement they won’t be worse off.
Everton and Leeds fighting for fourth bottom I reckon
posted on 21/7/22
comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Son Of Gunnersaurus a.k.a SoG (U1310)
posted 7 minutes ago
Have Everton actually bought anyone yet? They’ll definitely finish bottom half with current group of players but i think they will avoid the drop again
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I think Mee from Burnley or at least one of their central defenders. They are also apparently interested in Cornet from Burnley so doesn’t inspire much confidence.
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They bought Tarkowski
posted on 21/7/22
Chelsea, with the third best squad in the league
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spurs now have the 3rd best squad in the league
posted on 21/7/22
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Arsenal shat it on 16/01/22 - Todger (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Son Of Gunnersaurus a.k.a SoG (U1310)
posted 7 minutes ago
Have Everton actually bought anyone yet? They’ll definitely finish bottom half with current group of players but i think they will avoid the drop again
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I think Mee from Burnley or at least one of their central defenders. They are also apparently interested in Cornet from Burnley so doesn’t inspire much confidence.
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They bought Tarkowski
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Wasn't he free?
posted on 21/7/22
comment by Chronic - THFC North London's finest (U3423)
posted 2 seconds ago
Chelsea, with the third best squad in the league
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spurs now have the 3rd best squad in the league
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no they don't, the best 3 are us, chelsea and city.
Spurs have signed maybe one starter in Bissouma who is a good player.
The rest just make up the numbers, no one really stands out all from the others.
posted on 21/7/22
comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Arsenal shat it on 16/01/22 - Todger (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Son Of Gunnersaurus a.k.a SoG (U1310)
posted 7 minutes ago
Have Everton actually bought anyone yet? They’ll definitely finish bottom half with current group of players but i think they will avoid the drop again
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I think Mee from Burnley or at least one of their central defenders. They are also apparently interested in Cornet from Burnley so doesn’t inspire much confidence.
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They bought Tarkowski
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Wasn't he free?
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Yes, that’s what I meant - he is the player they have taken from Burnley - not Ben Mee
posted on 21/7/22
Pickford
Patterson Mina Tarkowski Mykolenko
Doucoure Allan Gomes
Gordon DCL Gray
Keane, Godfrey, Townsend, Iwobi, Coleman
should still have enough to stay up.
posted on 21/7/22
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Arsenal shat it on 16/01/22 - Todger (U18109)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Son Of Gunnersaurus a.k.a SoG (U1310)
posted 7 minutes ago
Have Everton actually bought anyone yet? They’ll definitely finish bottom half with current group of players but i think they will avoid the drop again
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I think Mee from Burnley or at least one of their central defenders. They are also apparently interested in Cornet from Burnley so doesn’t inspire much confidence.
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They bought Tarkowski
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Oh right okay. I knew it was one of the Burnley defenders just didn’t know which. Tarkowski is actually a decent signing but they need to do a lot more.
posted on 21/7/22
comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 6 seconds ago
Pickford
Patterson Mina Tarkowski Mykolenko
Doucoure Allan Gomes
Gordon DCL Gray
Keane, Godfrey, Townsend, Iwobi, Coleman
should still have enough to stay up.
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That bench is super weak. They are a couple of injuries away from disaster.
posted on 21/7/22
comment by Pranks - Going for the JA LFC FF 3peat (U22336)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Chronic - THFC North London's finest (U3423)
posted 2 seconds ago
Chelsea, with the third best squad in the league
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spurs now have the 3rd best squad in the league
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no they don't, the best 3 are us, chelsea and city.
Spurs have signed maybe one starter in Bissouma who is a good player.
The rest just make up the numbers, no one really stands out all from the others.
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Perisic starts as does Lenglet, so not just Bissouma. Richarlison offers much needed cover.
Liverpool have arguably not signed a single player that will be a starter next season if Darwin’s pre season form is anything to go by.
Our squad is better than Chelsea’s currently
posted on 21/7/22
comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 2 minutes ago
Pickford
Patterson Mina Tarkowski Mykolenko
Doucoure Allan Gomes
Gordon DCL Gray
Keane, Godfrey, Townsend, Iwobi, Coleman
should still have enough to stay up.
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Mina - always injured
DCL - one stand out season plus injury issues
Gomes, Allan, Doucoure - absolutely no creativity, just crabs and cloggers
Their only chance is Mina staying fit and Gordon go up a level.
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