Winston Bogarde frame of mind.
Shocking signing
Waste of space and waste of money.
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Man United and arsenal have been held back from these types of players for years. If it was possible to do anything, something would have been done by now.
Whoever did due diligence on this guy needs sacking. Or maybe they did already. Tbf it's not his fault we handed him all that money. I mean, I'd take it and turn up to training and be sheit. You all would
What’s annoying about this guy is that he clearly is a very talented player . Just a shame he has the attitude of I can’t be arrrsed.
Get rid of ASAP he really is a parasite. Don’t care about ability.
well if a level of training performance wasn't specified in his contract (not sure how such a subjective thing could be) then he hasn't breached his contract
If he had Hojbergs work rate and commitment he would be some player
A Poch signing to go alongside Nkoudou and Njie. A lot of money was wasted on those three.
With £200k effectivily being chucked in the bin every week, why doesn't Levy just bite the bullet and pay off his contract and tell him where the door is.
Obviously this means a loss of a lot of money and goes against every business principle Levy lives by, but this loss will effectively be repaid from the fans or the next couple of Lady Gaga concerts.
In a year everything about this farce would then be forgotten.
The really annoying thing is still having this guy and the likes of Lo Selso and Winks, all three of which won't be going near a Conte team anytime soon, are holding the club back from buying players we actually want/need.
Levy can only balance the figures so far and the outlay these three cost the club has clearly got to be got ride of first.
Villarreal might take Lo Selso ( for a snip ) but absolutely nobody has shown a remote interest in the other two. Even Championship clubs are not looking at Winks.
Every club has the occasional mare of a purchase, but christ these three have got to be taken off the books asap. Just holding Conte's vision ( and progress ) up unnecessarily.
comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 23 minutes ago
With £200k effectivily being chucked in the bin every week, why doesn't Levy just bite the bullet and pay off his contract and tell him where the door is.
Obviously this means a loss of a lot of money and goes against every business principle Levy lives by, but this loss will effectively be repaid from the fans or the next couple of Lady Gaga concerts.
In a year everything about this farce would then be forgotten.
The really annoying thing is still having this guy and the likes of Lo Selso and Winks, all three of which won't be going near a Conte team anytime soon, are holding the club back from buying players we actually want/need.
Levy can only balance the figures so far and the outlay these three cost the club has clearly got to be got ride of first.
Villarreal might take Lo Selso ( for a snip ) but absolutely nobody has shown a remote interest in the other two. Even Championship clubs are not looking at Winks.
Every club has the occasional mare of a purchase, but christ these three have got to be taken off the books asap. Just holding Conte's vision ( and progress ) up unnecessarily.
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Agreed Steve, I blame Sky as well.
Terrible article. Makes your blood boil? Seriously mate…
Here we go with the Poch bashings again.
It's funny how disasters under his tenure are his fault yet players like Son for £22m, Dier for £3m, Alli for £5m and Toby for £11m barely get a mention about Poch.
The club sign the players. That was his biggest frustration working for us. He had little control over who was signed and he probably trusted the judgement of the recruitment team working alongside him. To lump Ndombele and Lo Celso on him is just a joke.
Is Fergie a terrible manager for signing Kleberson and Djemba Djemba? It happens.
After not making a signing for a year, Poch was wreckless with his choices and decisions. Not 100% his fault but after he made that "we need to operate differently" or words to that effect he overpaid on two players and we missed the boat on players like Tielemans, Bowen, Maddison to name a few because he did not want them. Cheers Poch.
My original point wasn’t intended as a slur on Poch. It’s Ndombele that hasn’t performed. Not sure why people jumped on that.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 12 hours, 59 minutes ago
Here we go with the Poch bashings again.
It's funny how disasters under his tenure are his fault yet players like Son for £22m, Dier for £3m, Alli for £5m and Toby for £11m barely get a mention about Poch.
The club sign the players. That was his biggest frustration working for us. He had little control over who was signed and he probably trusted the judgement of the recruitment team working alongside him. To lump Ndombele and Lo Celso on him is just a joke.
Is Fergie a terrible manager for signing Kleberson and Djemba Djemba? It happens.
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Shades of grey though, init. No one is saying Poch is a terrible manager. You're right - he deserves credit for all the good signings as well as the bad. There's no point pretending he didn't sign off on us buying Sanchez for 40m or Ndombele for 60. He made mistakes, it's ok. As you point out, so did SAF. The difference of course, is that Fergie won everything and is probably still the best football manager ever. Poch doesn't have quite the track record to offset those big mistakes. But whatever. It was never his job to find out if Ndombele had a sheit attitude. I hope there's someone keeping an eye on that stuff better these days.
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posted on 8/8/22
Winston Bogarde frame of mind.
posted on 8/8/22
Shocking signing
Waste of space and waste of money.
posted on 8/8/22
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 8/8/22
Man United and arsenal have been held back from these types of players for years. If it was possible to do anything, something would have been done by now.
posted on 8/8/22
Whoever did due diligence on this guy needs sacking. Or maybe they did already. Tbf it's not his fault we handed him all that money. I mean, I'd take it and turn up to training and be sheit. You all would
posted on 8/8/22
Cheers Poch mate.
posted on 8/8/22
What’s annoying about this guy is that he clearly is a very talented player . Just a shame he has the attitude of I can’t be arrrsed.
posted on 8/8/22
Get rid of ASAP he really is a parasite. Don’t care about ability.
posted on 8/8/22
well if a level of training performance wasn't specified in his contract (not sure how such a subjective thing could be) then he hasn't breached his contract
posted on 9/8/22
If he had Hojbergs work rate and commitment he would be some player
posted on 9/8/22
A Poch signing to go alongside Nkoudou and Njie. A lot of money was wasted on those three.
posted on 9/8/22
Lol breach of contract
posted on 9/8/22
With £200k effectivily being chucked in the bin every week, why doesn't Levy just bite the bullet and pay off his contract and tell him where the door is.
Obviously this means a loss of a lot of money and goes against every business principle Levy lives by, but this loss will effectively be repaid from the fans or the next couple of Lady Gaga concerts.
In a year everything about this farce would then be forgotten.
The really annoying thing is still having this guy and the likes of Lo Selso and Winks, all three of which won't be going near a Conte team anytime soon, are holding the club back from buying players we actually want/need.
Levy can only balance the figures so far and the outlay these three cost the club has clearly got to be got ride of first.
Villarreal might take Lo Selso ( for a snip ) but absolutely nobody has shown a remote interest in the other two. Even Championship clubs are not looking at Winks.
Every club has the occasional mare of a purchase, but christ these three have got to be taken off the books asap. Just holding Conte's vision ( and progress ) up unnecessarily.
posted on 9/8/22
comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 23 minutes ago
With £200k effectivily being chucked in the bin every week, why doesn't Levy just bite the bullet and pay off his contract and tell him where the door is.
Obviously this means a loss of a lot of money and goes against every business principle Levy lives by, but this loss will effectively be repaid from the fans or the next couple of Lady Gaga concerts.
In a year everything about this farce would then be forgotten.
The really annoying thing is still having this guy and the likes of Lo Selso and Winks, all three of which won't be going near a Conte team anytime soon, are holding the club back from buying players we actually want/need.
Levy can only balance the figures so far and the outlay these three cost the club has clearly got to be got ride of first.
Villarreal might take Lo Selso ( for a snip ) but absolutely nobody has shown a remote interest in the other two. Even Championship clubs are not looking at Winks.
Every club has the occasional mare of a purchase, but christ these three have got to be taken off the books asap. Just holding Conte's vision ( and progress ) up unnecessarily.
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Agreed Steve, I blame Sky as well.
posted on 9/8/22
Terrible article. Makes your blood boil? Seriously mate…
posted on 9/8/22
Here we go with the Poch bashings again.
It's funny how disasters under his tenure are his fault yet players like Son for £22m, Dier for £3m, Alli for £5m and Toby for £11m barely get a mention about Poch.
The club sign the players. That was his biggest frustration working for us. He had little control over who was signed and he probably trusted the judgement of the recruitment team working alongside him. To lump Ndombele and Lo Celso on him is just a joke.
Is Fergie a terrible manager for signing Kleberson and Djemba Djemba? It happens.
posted on 9/8/22
After not making a signing for a year, Poch was wreckless with his choices and decisions. Not 100% his fault but after he made that "we need to operate differently" or words to that effect he overpaid on two players and we missed the boat on players like Tielemans, Bowen, Maddison to name a few because he did not want them. Cheers Poch.
posted on 10/8/22
My original point wasn’t intended as a slur on Poch. It’s Ndombele that hasn’t performed. Not sure why people jumped on that.
posted on 10/8/22
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 12 hours, 59 minutes ago
Here we go with the Poch bashings again.
It's funny how disasters under his tenure are his fault yet players like Son for £22m, Dier for £3m, Alli for £5m and Toby for £11m barely get a mention about Poch.
The club sign the players. That was his biggest frustration working for us. He had little control over who was signed and he probably trusted the judgement of the recruitment team working alongside him. To lump Ndombele and Lo Celso on him is just a joke.
Is Fergie a terrible manager for signing Kleberson and Djemba Djemba? It happens.
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Shades of grey though, init. No one is saying Poch is a terrible manager. You're right - he deserves credit for all the good signings as well as the bad. There's no point pretending he didn't sign off on us buying Sanchez for 40m or Ndombele for 60. He made mistakes, it's ok. As you point out, so did SAF. The difference of course, is that Fergie won everything and is probably still the best football manager ever. Poch doesn't have quite the track record to offset those big mistakes. But whatever. It was never his job to find out if Ndombele had a sheit attitude. I hope there's someone keeping an eye on that stuff better these days.
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