Though Sancho is without blame for the things you have mentioned, but look who he has around him, AWB, Dalot, Fred, McShiite and Bruno. What do we expect from him with that level of shiiiteness.
But yes, he needs to show more when he has the ball
Werner scored yesterday so yes it is a poor league
I think a lot of people overrated him. He can still come good, but I don't see him being a great; he lacks the ability to make something out of nothing.
Sancho is like Mkhitaryan, he looked a good player in a system and league that suits his style of play. He might improve a bit with the right coach and team in the future but, even in his Dortmund days, he didn't show he is more than just decent. Elanga might prove to be a valuable squad player than Sancho.
comment by #If Only, Mithrandir (U22733)
posted 8 minutes ago
Though Sancho is without blame for the things you have mentioned, but look who he has around him, AWB, Dalot, Fred, McShiite and Bruno. What do we expect from him with that level of shiiiteness.
But yes, he needs to show more when he has the ball
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That doesn’t help him, but it can’t be blamed for all his poor form, that’s just an excuse he doesn’t deserve he’s still been shiiiit regardless. If those other players are getting pelters, sancho should not be immune, none of them should be. Maybe he’s just not as good as he was talked up to be.
Their is a good player there in Sancho,but with all thats going on in and around ManU at the moment,he cannot be picked out solely.
I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt at the moment, because good players can look like donkeys in a team that’s set up badly, with the wrong personnel.
Until the team is more solid and can play out, I think it’s going to be impossible to judge him.
He is just so underwhelming. At least Rashford made some good runs yesterday.
comment by HarlequinHebdo (U16981)
posted 8 minutes ago
Their is a good player there in Sancho,but with all thats going on in and around ManU at the moment,he cannot be picked out solely.
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Exactly this. Yesterdays debacle was not really down to any of our attacking players. We did create chances. Eriksen should have scored two. Ronaldo had a header he would bury nine times out of ten.
It all went wrong with DDG. You can not have a keeper play like that.
I have to say he is one of the most disappointing signings I can remember. I didn’t buy into the world class player narrative around him but I did expect him to be an exciting addition, but he has been so poor, hes a lot slower than I thought and lacks both one on one ability and creativity. In short he has nothing of the skills i expected he would have.
I feel like he'd be thriving at City under Pep, and be as good as Sterling was, if not better. But that is also as much down to being in a successful team and good environment as it is having top quality coaching. Right now United is just not a player-friendly place to be, making top players look like amateurs. Ronaldo is the current exception.
Look at their 4th goal yesterday, all came from a poor Sancho touch giving the ball away.
How often do Maguire and Dalot have the ball at the back with nobody showing down the right?
Yes there are a lot of players to blame, but Sancho and Rashford are a huge part of the problem.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 6 minutes ago
Look at their 4th goal yesterday, all came from a poor Sancho touch giving the ball away.
How often do Maguire and Dalot have the ball at the back with nobody showing down the right?
Yes there are a lot of players to blame, but Sancho and Rashford are a huge part of the problem.
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The problem is that these players do make the runs but we don’t spot them because our players need too many touches because their first touch is poor.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 6 minutes ago
Look at their 4th goal yesterday, all came from a poor Sancho touch giving the ball away.
How often do Maguire and Dalot have the ball at the back with nobody showing down the right?
Yes there are a lot of players to blame, but Sancho and Rashford are a huge part of the problem.
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The problem is that these players do make the runs but we don’t spot them because our players need too many touches because their first touch is poor.
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Disagree. I’ve been to enough to games to know our midfield/ attack don’t show for the ball to feet m, making the defenders look like mugs.
I do agree our attackers make runs that aren’t found too, but I was referring to our inability to play the ball from the back. It isn’t just the defenders to blame.
Disagree
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You would which is why I frequently ask what the hell you watch.
He’s flopping hard.
I do think there’s a good player in there but I don’t think we will see it at United. His confidence is shot
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 6 minutes ago
Look at their 4th goal yesterday, all came from a poor Sancho touch giving the ball away.
How often do Maguire and Dalot have the ball at the back with nobody showing down the right?
Yes there are a lot of players to blame, but Sancho and Rashford are a huge part of the problem.
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The problem is that these players do make the runs but we don’t spot them because our players need too many touches because their first touch is poor.
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. It isn’t just the defenders to blame.
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No but it’s easier to blame them and the midfield than the attackers.
First game Sancho did show for the ball a lot of times and we missed him out- poor vision and poor passing from our players. The quality of players we have are players that need 4 touches to release a ball.
In saying all this, Sancho and Rashford yesterday were abysmal. Sancho could not beat a man if his life depended on it, never gets to the byline to deliver a cross. Dalot who I think is also a poor player actually delivered 1/2 decent crosses.
SAF let Pogba go. City let Sancho go. In both cases you have to say that, perhaps, there were good reasons for doing so.
comment by Kamikaze Blue (U7450)
posted 4 minutes ago
SAF let Pogba go. City let Sancho go. In both cases you have to say that, perhaps, there were good reasons for doing so.
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And Chelsea let De Bruyne and Salah go.
I’m not sure that’s an accurate measure of whether a player can make it.
Issue is that even good players will have limited impact when they are playing in a system that's not functioning well and without quality around them. At Dortmund Sancho had Hakimi and Haaland around him - players with powerful gravity of their own, which bought him that extra space, put him more often in one-on-one positions. He isn't getting the ball in dangerous areas at United because we lack players who terrify and occupy the opposition defence and still don't have the drilled system to fabricate it through collective movement.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 17 minutes ago
Issue is that even good players will have limited impact when they are playing in a system that's not functioning well and without quality around them. At Dortmund Sancho had Hakimi and Haaland around him - players with powerful gravity of their own, which bought him that extra space, put him more often in one-on-one positions. He isn't getting the ball in dangerous areas at United because we lack players who terrify and occupy the opposition defence and still don't have the drilled system to fabricate it through collective movement.
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Whilst I agree, a lot of these players are unable to do the fundamentals right now. Controlling a football, short passes going astray, missing sitters, following your runner, simply working harder than the opposition.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 21 minutes ago
Issue is that even good players will have limited impact when they are playing in a system that's not functioning well and without quality around them. At Dortmund Sancho had Hakimi and Haaland around him - players with powerful gravity of their own, which bought him that extra space, put him more often in one-on-one positions. He isn't getting the ball in dangerous areas at United because we lack players who terrify and occupy the opposition defence and still don't have the drilled system to fabricate it through collective movement.
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Simple as this. Seems as if United (along with some of our fans) have never seen Sancho play at his best. Not sure what kind of player they were expecting. He was never a beat a man for pace kind of player. We've never put players with him to succeed, it's a mess.
Amazingly he's had a many managers at Utd as he has Prem goals.
A top attacking player usually starts well
Form dips after defenders and opposition figure him out
Then the best find a new way to overcome these challenges
Sancho as not got out of 1st gear bar a few moments in a handful of games
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posted on 14/8/22
Though Sancho is without blame for the things you have mentioned, but look who he has around him, AWB, Dalot, Fred, McShiite and Bruno. What do we expect from him with that level of shiiiteness.
But yes, he needs to show more when he has the ball
posted on 14/8/22
Werner scored yesterday so yes it is a poor league
posted on 14/8/22
I think a lot of people overrated him. He can still come good, but I don't see him being a great; he lacks the ability to make something out of nothing.
posted on 14/8/22
Sancho is like Mkhitaryan, he looked a good player in a system and league that suits his style of play. He might improve a bit with the right coach and team in the future but, even in his Dortmund days, he didn't show he is more than just decent. Elanga might prove to be a valuable squad player than Sancho.
posted on 14/8/22
comment by #If Only, Mithrandir (U22733)
posted 8 minutes ago
Though Sancho is without blame for the things you have mentioned, but look who he has around him, AWB, Dalot, Fred, McShiite and Bruno. What do we expect from him with that level of shiiiteness.
But yes, he needs to show more when he has the ball
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That doesn’t help him, but it can’t be blamed for all his poor form, that’s just an excuse he doesn’t deserve he’s still been shiiiit regardless. If those other players are getting pelters, sancho should not be immune, none of them should be. Maybe he’s just not as good as he was talked up to be.
posted on 14/8/22
Their is a good player there in Sancho,but with all thats going on in and around ManU at the moment,he cannot be picked out solely.
posted on 14/8/22
I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt at the moment, because good players can look like donkeys in a team that’s set up badly, with the wrong personnel.
Until the team is more solid and can play out, I think it’s going to be impossible to judge him.
posted on 14/8/22
He is just so underwhelming. At least Rashford made some good runs yesterday.
posted on 14/8/22
comment by HarlequinHebdo (U16981)
posted 8 minutes ago
Their is a good player there in Sancho,but with all thats going on in and around ManU at the moment,he cannot be picked out solely.
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Exactly this. Yesterdays debacle was not really down to any of our attacking players. We did create chances. Eriksen should have scored two. Ronaldo had a header he would bury nine times out of ten.
It all went wrong with DDG. You can not have a keeper play like that.
posted on 14/8/22
I have to say he is one of the most disappointing signings I can remember. I didn’t buy into the world class player narrative around him but I did expect him to be an exciting addition, but he has been so poor, hes a lot slower than I thought and lacks both one on one ability and creativity. In short he has nothing of the skills i expected he would have.
posted on 14/8/22
I feel like he'd be thriving at City under Pep, and be as good as Sterling was, if not better. But that is also as much down to being in a successful team and good environment as it is having top quality coaching. Right now United is just not a player-friendly place to be, making top players look like amateurs. Ronaldo is the current exception.
posted on 14/8/22
Look at their 4th goal yesterday, all came from a poor Sancho touch giving the ball away.
How often do Maguire and Dalot have the ball at the back with nobody showing down the right?
Yes there are a lot of players to blame, but Sancho and Rashford are a huge part of the problem.
posted on 14/8/22
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 6 minutes ago
Look at their 4th goal yesterday, all came from a poor Sancho touch giving the ball away.
How often do Maguire and Dalot have the ball at the back with nobody showing down the right?
Yes there are a lot of players to blame, but Sancho and Rashford are a huge part of the problem.
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The problem is that these players do make the runs but we don’t spot them because our players need too many touches because their first touch is poor.
posted on 14/8/22
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 6 minutes ago
Look at their 4th goal yesterday, all came from a poor Sancho touch giving the ball away.
How often do Maguire and Dalot have the ball at the back with nobody showing down the right?
Yes there are a lot of players to blame, but Sancho and Rashford are a huge part of the problem.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The problem is that these players do make the runs but we don’t spot them because our players need too many touches because their first touch is poor.
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Disagree. I’ve been to enough to games to know our midfield/ attack don’t show for the ball to feet m, making the defenders look like mugs.
I do agree our attackers make runs that aren’t found too, but I was referring to our inability to play the ball from the back. It isn’t just the defenders to blame.
posted on 14/8/22
Disagree
….
You would which is why I frequently ask what the hell you watch.
posted on 14/8/22
He’s flopping hard.
I do think there’s a good player in there but I don’t think we will see it at United. His confidence is shot
posted on 14/8/22
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 6 minutes ago
Look at their 4th goal yesterday, all came from a poor Sancho touch giving the ball away.
How often do Maguire and Dalot have the ball at the back with nobody showing down the right?
Yes there are a lot of players to blame, but Sancho and Rashford are a huge part of the problem.
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The problem is that these players do make the runs but we don’t spot them because our players need too many touches because their first touch is poor.
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. It isn’t just the defenders to blame.
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No but it’s easier to blame them and the midfield than the attackers.
posted on 14/8/22
First game Sancho did show for the ball a lot of times and we missed him out- poor vision and poor passing from our players. The quality of players we have are players that need 4 touches to release a ball.
In saying all this, Sancho and Rashford yesterday were abysmal. Sancho could not beat a man if his life depended on it, never gets to the byline to deliver a cross. Dalot who I think is also a poor player actually delivered 1/2 decent crosses.
posted on 14/8/22
SAF let Pogba go. City let Sancho go. In both cases you have to say that, perhaps, there were good reasons for doing so.
posted on 14/8/22
comment by Kamikaze Blue (U7450)
posted 4 minutes ago
SAF let Pogba go. City let Sancho go. In both cases you have to say that, perhaps, there were good reasons for doing so.
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And Chelsea let De Bruyne and Salah go.
I’m not sure that’s an accurate measure of whether a player can make it.
posted on 14/8/22
Issue is that even good players will have limited impact when they are playing in a system that's not functioning well and without quality around them. At Dortmund Sancho had Hakimi and Haaland around him - players with powerful gravity of their own, which bought him that extra space, put him more often in one-on-one positions. He isn't getting the ball in dangerous areas at United because we lack players who terrify and occupy the opposition defence and still don't have the drilled system to fabricate it through collective movement.
posted on 14/8/22
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 17 minutes ago
Issue is that even good players will have limited impact when they are playing in a system that's not functioning well and without quality around them. At Dortmund Sancho had Hakimi and Haaland around him - players with powerful gravity of their own, which bought him that extra space, put him more often in one-on-one positions. He isn't getting the ball in dangerous areas at United because we lack players who terrify and occupy the opposition defence and still don't have the drilled system to fabricate it through collective movement.
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Whilst I agree, a lot of these players are unable to do the fundamentals right now. Controlling a football, short passes going astray, missing sitters, following your runner, simply working harder than the opposition.
posted on 14/8/22
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 21 minutes ago
Issue is that even good players will have limited impact when they are playing in a system that's not functioning well and without quality around them. At Dortmund Sancho had Hakimi and Haaland around him - players with powerful gravity of their own, which bought him that extra space, put him more often in one-on-one positions. He isn't getting the ball in dangerous areas at United because we lack players who terrify and occupy the opposition defence and still don't have the drilled system to fabricate it through collective movement.
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Simple as this. Seems as if United (along with some of our fans) have never seen Sancho play at his best. Not sure what kind of player they were expecting. He was never a beat a man for pace kind of player. We've never put players with him to succeed, it's a mess.
posted on 14/8/22
Amazingly he's had a many managers at Utd as he has Prem goals.
posted on 14/8/22
A top attacking player usually starts well
Form dips after defenders and opposition figure him out
Then the best find a new way to overcome these challenges
Sancho as not got out of 1st gear bar a few moments in a handful of games
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