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posted on 26/8/22

64 clubs enter the 3rd round draw.

44 of those clubs are from the lower divisions.

The chances of the top 6 clubs drawing each other is quite low anyway.

posted on 26/8/22

Facking hell you're a moron Steve

comment by Szoboss (U6997)

posted on 26/8/22

Out of interest, do you think the FA cup draws have just been fixed for the last 6 years or has it been longer?

The tv rights to the FA cup have been increasingly massively over the years despite the non-glamour teams such as Portsmouth, Hull, Stoke, Wigan, Watford, Palace all making (at least) the final is relatively recent history. So if the FA revenue increases without the need for a glamour final, why would they bother to fix it. The risk of it coming out and the implications would be too large.

posted on 26/8/22

I can't, of course prove any of this, but can form an opinion based on statistical facts. These tell me that, in the last six years of FA Cup draws, only once have City, Liverpool or Chelsea drawn each other in the 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th rounds in the last SIX YEARS. Obviously by the semi final, the FA have no choice.
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No, see what you need to do here Steve before you start throwing about terms like 'statistical fact' is work out the probability of City, Chelsea or Liverpool (no idea why you choose just these 3 clubs but anyway...) having drawn each other in the 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th round in the last SIX YEARS and compare that against the number of times it actually happened. Then work out if any difference is statistically significant enough for it not to have happened by chance.

Crack on. And show your workings please.

posted on 26/8/22

comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 25 minutes ago
Out of interest, do you think the FA cup draws have just been fixed for the last 6 years or has it been longer?

The tv rights to the FA cup have been increasingly massively over the years despite the non-glamour teams such as Portsmouth, Hull, Stoke, Wigan, Watford, Palace all making (at least) the final is relatively recent history. So if the FA revenue increases without the need for a glamour final, why would they bother to fix it. The risk of it coming out and the implications would be too large.
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Why do you bother mate?

posted on 26/8/22

The whole thing is fixed SteveF. The PL is basically WWE acting

posted on 26/8/22

comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 32 minutes ago
I can't, of course prove any of this, but can form an opinion based on statistical facts. These tell me that, in the last six years of FA Cup draws, only once have City, Liverpool or Chelsea drawn each other in the 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th rounds in the last SIX YEARS. Obviously by the semi final, the FA have no choice.
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No, see what you need to do here Steve before you start throwing about terms like 'statistical fact' is work out the probability of City, Chelsea or Liverpool (no idea why you choose just these 3 clubs but anyway...) having drawn each other in the 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th round in the last SIX YEARS and compare that against the number of times it actually happened. Then work out if any difference is statistically significant enough for it not to have happened by chance.

Crack on. And show your workings please.
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Yep, this.

You’re right, Steve: You have all the data and tools you need to evidence your point.

So let’s see the maths…

posted on 26/8/22

The Lizard people hide a flat earth from us and fix cup draws.

FACT

posted on 26/8/22

We need Tux to adjudicate on this one.

posted on 26/8/22

Perhaps SteveF knows something we don't !

posted on 26/8/22

Keep digging that hole Steve.

We also go a pretty favourable Champions League draw so that's another nail in your Spurs conspiracy coffin.

posted on 26/8/22

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 51 minutes ago
We need Tux to adjudicate on this one.
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The lizard people?

posted on 26/8/22

What makes me laugh about stuff like this is that Spurs are what, one of the biggest five clubs in the country?

And you think if there’s draw fixing and match fixing going on, Spurs are not benefitting?

Riddle me that.

posted on 26/8/22

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 8 minutes ago
What makes me laugh about stuff like this is that Spurs are what, one of the biggest five clubs in the country?

And you think if there’s draw fixing and match fixing going on, Spurs are not benefitting?

Riddle me that.
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Exactly.

The FA fix draws to maximise viewing interest. Spurs currently boast - among others - a cult figure of a manager, England's current captain and best player, and arguably the most marketable Asian sportsperson in history. Yet the FA apparently have no interest in fixing draws for them like they do the other big 6 clubs.

For some reason the Spurs board on this site just seems to contaim the highest proportion of batshīt mental idiots. I don't know if they are all the same person or something .

posted on 26/8/22

comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 8 minutes ago
What makes me laugh about stuff like this is that Spurs are what, one of the biggest five clubs in the country?

And you think if there’s draw fixing and match fixing going on, Spurs are not benefitting?

Riddle me that.
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Exactly.

The FA fix draws to maximise viewing interest. Spurs currently boast - among others - a cult figure of a manager, England's current captain and best player, and arguably the most marketable Asian sportsperson in history. Yet the FA apparently have no interest in fixing draws for them like they do the other big 6 clubs.

For some reason the Spurs board on this site just seems to contaim the highest proportion of batshīt mental idiots. I don't know if they are all the same person or something .
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This. Also noticed living in France that the French media have changed their tune on spurs, initially they had it in for them, every day another slur at spurs, or Harry Kane accused of diving, but now they are celebrating spurs. L’Equipe had a 10 page pull out all about spurs, breaking down all the players for example.

posted on 26/8/22

comment by HarlequinHebdo (U16981)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
Perhaps SteveF knows something we don't !
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perhaps SteveF knows nothing about something we dont!

posted on 26/8/22

What a fking bore

posted on 26/8/22

I don’t know if the FA Cup is fixed or not in anyway.

But what I do know is that the FA Cup is the oldest and, with the exception of the World Cup, the most famous Cup in world football.

A Cup that Arsenal have won a record-shattering 14 (fourteen) times.

posted on 26/8/22

comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 1 minute ago
I don’t know if the FA Cup is fixed or not in anyway.

But what I do know is that the FA Cup is the oldest and, with the exception of the World Cup, the most famous Cup in world football.

A Cup that Arsenal have won a record-shattering 14 (fourteen) times.
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lets all pretend the FA cup is more famous than the champions league

posted on 26/8/22

comment by whodunnit (U22710)

comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)

I don’t know if the FA Cup is fixed or not in anyway.

But what I do know is that the FA Cup is the oldest and, with the exception of the World Cup, the most famous Cup in world football.

A Cup that Arsenal have won a record-shattering 14 (fourteen) times.
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lets all pretend the FA cup is more famous than the champions league
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Who the hell cares about the CL? (Maybe apart from Liverpool fans )

In fact for a long period of time, the CL was considered a gimmick event, and England didn’t even send their league winner to compete in the tournament during the early days.

Of course we’ve seen recently that the CL has been a commercial failure, which prompted the 12 biggest teams to attempt to leave the competition and start the ESL - which will happen eventually.

posted on 27/8/22

It took some doing but LiquidGenius has managed to be a bigger idiot than the OP

posted on 27/8/22

These tell me that, in the last six years of FA Cup draws, only once have City, Liverpool or Chelsea drawn each other in the 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th rounds in the last SIX YEARS. Obviously by the semi final, the FA have no choice.
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Spurs draws in last SIX YEARS

21/22
Morecombe, Brighton, Middlesbrough

20/21
Marine, Wycombe, Everton

19/20
Middlesbrough, Southampton, Norwich

18/19
Tranmere Rovers, Crystal Palace

17/18
Wimbledon, Newport, Rochdale, Swansea, Man Utd (semi final)

16/17
Aston Villa, Wycombe Wanderers, Fulham, Millwall, Chelsea (semi final)

So in the last 6 years, Spurs have not been drawn against a big 6 team at all - except for the semi finals when the FA have had no choice.

In fact you have to go all the way back to 4th January 2014 for the last time Spurs played a big 6 team in the FA Cup pre-Semi Final stage - Arsenal 2-0 Spurs.

posted on 27/8/22

Come on, Steve; you’ve had a full day to get the maths done demonstrating how often City, Liverpool and Chelsea should have been drawn against each other.

Let’s see it.

posted on 27/8/22

I can feel your palpitations from here Steve !

posted on 27/8/22

Maybe we should now move on to how the Champions League draw is fixed now that Spurs have been pitched against 3 European giants and will be forced to play the games midweek.

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