Dunno, Fergie was a CB, as was Klopp, both liked their teams to attack quite a bit

comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
Dunno, Fergie was a CB, as was Klopp, both liked their teams to attack quite a bit
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Fergie was a CF.

I’m not sure there’s a lot of correlation. Especially as attacking/flair players don’t seem to go into management as much as midfielders and defenders (that’s just an observation).

comment by Ham Tyler (U15867)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
Dunno, Fergie was a CB, as was Klopp, both liked their teams to attack quite a bit
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Fergie was a CF.
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Was he really?

Eff me only watch the documentary about him a few months back, don’t know what made me think that then

comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Ham Tyler (U15867)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
Dunno, Fergie was a CB, as was Klopp, both liked their teams to attack quite a bit
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Fergie was a CF.
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Was he really?

Eff me only watch the documentary about him a few months back, don’t know what made me think that then
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Old school big unit centre forward. Treated abominably by Rangers.

comment by The Post Nearly Man (U1270)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Ham Tyler (U15867)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
Dunno, Fergie was a CB, as was Klopp, both liked their teams to attack quite a bit
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Fergie was a CF.
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Was he really?

Eff me only watch the documentary about him a few months back, don’t know what made me think that then
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Old school big unit centre forward. Treated abominably by Rangers.
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Yeah you could tell how it spurred him on to do so well with Aberdeen,

Ten Hag was a defender too.

I think it's more to do with the values they pick up as players and the influence certain managers had on them.

comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
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comment by The Post Nearly Man (U1270)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Ham Tyler (U15867)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
Dunno, Fergie was a CB, as was Klopp, both liked their teams to attack quite a bit
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Fergie was a CF.
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Was he really?

Eff me only watch the documentary about him a few months back, don’t know what made me think that then
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Old school big unit centre forward. Treated abominably by Rangers.
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Yeah you could tell how it spurred him on to do so well with Aberdeen,
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He's gone from boyhood fan to displaying utter hatred for them. Just when you think you couldnt love him any more....

Ten Hag was a defender too.
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So was Graham Potter.

Pochettino was a hatchet man, his teams are far from that

Spurs were massive, dirty cheaters under Poch.

Has a goalkeeper ever gone on to become a manager or do they just go on to be guests on super sunday?

Didn't David James manage somewhere?

The Portuguese fella at Wolves whose teams played the most boring football in history was a goalkeeper.

Dino Zoff

Nuno was a keeper.

Roberto Manchini was a huge flair player, but played like a chicken at Man City with sometimes 3 holding midfielders and zero risk when they were already oil rich.
Van Basten one of the greatest strikers of all time and yet blamed RvN when he couldn't score knowing fully well why as a former striker (his tactics while managing NT sucked at supplying the centre forward).

The only thing that's generally true is that former players at the very very top level (Maradona, Gullit, Henry, Neville, Lampard etc.) mostly don't turn out to be good coaches because they find it incomprehensible that their players can't do something 'simple' (for them) consistently which is the hardest thing to do for footballers with average talent

The only thing that's generally true is that former players at the very very top level (Maradona, Gullit, Henry, Neville, Lampard etc.) mostly don't turn out to be good coaches because they find it incomprehensible that their players can't do something 'simple' (for them) consistently which is the hardest thing to do for footballers with average talent
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Not sure this is true, it’s a line rolled out because it was something Hoddle said. I’ve not seen it really attributed to the failures of those managers. There’s been a few very top level players that have been good managers as well.

comment by Roy The King Chipolina (U10026)
posted 39 minutes ago

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Not sure this is true, it’s a line rolled out because it was something Hoddle said. I’ve not seen it really attributed to the failures of those managers. There’s been a few very top level players that have been good managers as well.
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It's definitely a part of the problem as some of them admitted as much in interviews (Gullit, Lampard and I believe Maradona in his earlier coaching days). Top level players becoming elite coaches are very much the exception (Anchelotti, Pep, Cruyff), although the likes of Gerrard and Gio will be fine and turn into decent managers as long as they don't go full Keane in their man management...

Have they actually said that? Hoddle didn’t even say it was incomprehensible, and he’s the most famous case of commenting on that difficultly with lesser talented players. There’s far bigger issues for them with management than that. They all know full well the difference between extremely talented players and average ones having played with them for years in their careers.

Most top level players don’t all go into management anyway, usually they’ve made more than enough money and have little interest in it. So it’s not really valid point to generalise regarding their failures.

And there’s a clear difference between not being good and not being elite. They are different claims you are making.

Dalglish fits into the category

Pep was a good player but is now an elite manager

Cruyff was both.

Back to the OP's question. Gullit tried to play 'sexy' Football which fitted with his style of play but in general, not many managers have a style of play that mimicked their playing career.

Simeone, massive caaaant as a player and coaches his team to be massive caaants too.

comment by Roy The King Chipolina (U10026)
posted 20 hours, 31 minutes ago
Spurs were massive, dirty cheaters under Poch.
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