comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 44 seconds ago
Firstly OP if it's genuine debate you want then you want to start by deleting obsessed trolls like TopForm from this thread, an over excited smug goooner who's only going to spout garbage on a thread like this.
Secondly, is this just a repeat of said TopForms early BS post about Spurs style of play? Seems like it and that post was simply a wum.
In response though I'm with Ace on this one. We haven't hit form but are putting points on the board. We have a hectic schedule.. this last week away at Arsenal away at Frankfurt away at Brighton. Some players missing, some just coming back from injury. It's been a tough week made worse by the death of our very popular first team fitness coach. In those circumstances, you just take the points in a tough game like BHA(a).
We have scored for fun since about Feb when we started to show some form under Conte. That form has continued this season but the displays have not but we know we can play better. The question of others is can they still pick up points when performances ain't great...Liverpool cannot, Utd and CFC couldn't but seem to be now, we all know City can and Arsenal yet to proove anything as they've had 1 tough away game and they lost it.
Some Spurs fans wetting their pants a bit about our style. Others appreciate its a marathon not a sprint and the fixture list is bonkers for the big clubs in UCL. I suspect Conte just wants us to get through to the WC well played and all to play for, so pragmatism is the key right now. That said we need to play better and we are well capable of doing so. IMO we are more likely to start to play better than start to lose games regularly. But we'll see.
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I try not to delete comments and filter people chief ... IMO it can ruin threads and damages the site.
He seems to be half and half with serious points and wumming.
Na the thread came from genuinely falling asleep during the spurs game mate. I just thought the game was snoozefest tbf. Spurs have always been an entertaining attacking team. but then you are sitting in 3rd. So created this to see where the spurs fans are at. Just fancied a bit of debate on the site. thats kinda the point of it.
It annoys me a little though that fans just assume since I am Scottish and a Rangers fan then my opinion is null and void.
Im a football fan and love talking about football is all.
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
I dont see any evidence of WUMMING in my OP?
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Apart from the bit where you start of by saying some of your fans are incapable of debate. Pull the other one Even I don't go so far as to post threads on here.
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
I dont see any evidence of WUMMING in my OP?
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Apart from the bit where you start of by saying some of your fans are incapable of debate. Pull the other oneEven I don't go so far as to post threads on here.
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well if the filter me in the middle of a debate cos they dont wanna answer a direct question that may put a negative light on their point or there team then yes I am 100% correct in saying some of their fans are incapable of debate ... that is not exclusive to Spurs however.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
Firstly OP if it's genuine debate you want then you want to start by deleting obsessed trolls like TopForm from this thread, an over excited smug goooner who's only going to spout garbage on a thread like this.
Secondly, is this just a repeat of said TopForms early BS post about Spurs style of play? Seems like it and that post was simply a wum.
In response though I'm with Ace on this one. We haven't hit form but are putting points on the board. We have a hectic schedule.. this last week away at Arsenal away at Frankfurt away at Brighton. Some players missing, some just coming back from injury. It's been a tough week made worse by the death of our very popular first team fitness coach. In those circumstances, you just take the points in a tough game like BHA(a).
We have scored for fun since about Feb when we started to show some form under Conte. That form has continued this season but the displays have not but we know we can play better. The question of others is can they still pick up points when performances ain't great...Liverpool cannot, Utd and CFC couldn't but seem to be now, we all know City can and Arsenal yet to proove anything as they've had 1 tough away game and they lost it.
Some Spurs fans wetting their pants a bit about our style. Others appreciate its a marathon not a sprint and the fixture list is bonkers for the big clubs in UCL. I suspect Conte just wants us to get through to the WC well played and all to play for, so pragmatism is the key right now. That said we need to play better and we are well capable of doing so. IMO we are more likely to start to play better than start to lose games regularly. But we'll see.
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Dev, that bit about Arsenal not yet having proved anything is just another in a long line of blinded comments from Spurs fans about just how far they've come since last year. It's patently untrue. They're top, they've played United, Spurs and Liverpool and won two out of three. They lost to United but on another day they'd have made their domination count. This pathetic playing down of their progress and inflating our own is frankly absurd. I've been saying since early last year that there were signs of Arsenal's progression, faith in youth and wise transfer policy yet anything I brought it up I was accused of supporting them and bashing Spurs. Clearly, I was right but even now, when the facts are laid bare and Arsenal are flying, still there are fans in complete denial. They've improved hugely. Jesus has been a revelation and Saliba has proved to be a shrewd investment in your talent. Meanwhile, we're still overly reliant on two players pushing 30 (I think Son already is) and we lack cohesion and penetration when either of those two have an off day.
For any Spurs fan to look at our prospects as more rosy than Arsenal's right now is just denial defined. I'm sick of it to be honest because the longer we bury our heads in the sand and not realise how where things are headed, the lower we stoop.
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 44 seconds ago
Firstly OP if it's genuine debate you want then you want to start by deleting obsessed trolls like TopForm from this thread, an over excited smug goooner who's only going to spout garbage on a thread like this.
Secondly, is this just a repeat of said TopForms early BS post about Spurs style of play? Seems like it and that post was simply a wum.
In response though I'm with Ace on this one. We haven't hit form but are putting points on the board. We have a hectic schedule.. this last week away at Arsenal away at Frankfurt away at Brighton. Some players missing, some just coming back from injury. It's been a tough week made worse by the death of our very popular first team fitness coach. In those circumstances, you just take the points in a tough game like BHA(a).
We have scored for fun since about Feb when we started to show some form under Conte. That form has continued this season but the displays have not but we know we can play better. The question of others is can they still pick up points when performances ain't great...Liverpool cannot, Utd and CFC couldn't but seem to be now, we all know City can and Arsenal yet to proove anything as they've had 1 tough away game and they lost it.
Some Spurs fans wetting their pants a bit about our style. Others appreciate its a marathon not a sprint and the fixture list is bonkers for the big clubs in UCL. I suspect Conte just wants us to get through to the WC well played and all to play for, so pragmatism is the key right now. That said we need to play better and we are well capable of doing so. IMO we are more likely to start to play better than start to lose games regularly. But we'll see.
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I try not to delete comments and filter people chief ... IMO it can ruin threads and damages the site.
He seems to be half and half with serious points and wumming.
Na the thread came from genuinely falling asleep during the spurs game mate. I just thought the game was snoozefest tbf. Spurs have always been an entertaining attacking team. but then you are sitting in 3rd. So created this to see where the spurs fans are at. Just fancied a bit of debate on the site. thats kinda the point of it.
It annoys me a little though that fans just assume since I am Scottish and a Rangers fan then my opinion is null and void.
Im a football fan and love talking about football is all.
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Takes 2 teams to make a game, we were the away team so were always going to be solid against a team unbeaten at home in 7 months. Wasn't the best but it was well contested and 3 points at the end of a tough week for the players and club and manager.
You wanna judge Spurs on the basis of that performance then crack on, and no one will take you seriously.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
Firstly OP if it's genuine debate you want then you want to start by deleting obsessed trolls like TopForm from this thread, an over excited smug goooner who's only going to spout garbage on a thread like this.
Secondly, is this just a repeat of said TopForms early BS post about Spurs style of play? Seems like it and that post was simply a wum.
In response though I'm with Ace on this one. We haven't hit form but are putting points on the board. We have a hectic schedule.. this last week away at Arsenal away at Frankfurt away at Brighton. Some players missing, some just coming back from injury. It's been a tough week made worse by the death of our very popular first team fitness coach. In those circumstances, you just take the points in a tough game like BHA(a).
We have scored for fun since about Feb when we started to show some form under Conte. That form has continued this season but the displays have not but we know we can play better. The question of others is can they still pick up points when performances ain't great...Liverpool cannot, Utd and CFC couldn't but seem to be now, we all know City can and Arsenal yet to proove anything as they've had 1 tough away game and they lost it.
Some Spurs fans wetting their pants a bit about our style. Others appreciate its a marathon not a sprint and the fixture list is bonkers for the big clubs in UCL. I suspect Conte just wants us to get through to the WC well played and all to play for, so pragmatism is the key right now. That said we need to play better and we are well capable of doing so. IMO we are more likely to start to play better than start to lose games regularly. But we'll see.
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Dev, that bit about Arsenal not yet having proved anything is just another in a long line of blinded comments from Spurs fans about just how far they've come since last year. It's patently untrue. They're top, they've played United, Spurs and Liverpool and won two out of three. They lost to United but on another day they'd have made their domination count. This pathetic playing down of their progress and inflating our own is frankly absurd. I've been saying since early last year that there were signs of Arsenal's progression, faith in youth and wise transfer policy yet anything I brought it up I was accused of supporting them and bashing Spurs. Clearly, I was right but even now, when the facts are laid bare and Arsenal are flying, still there are fans in complete denial. They've improved hugely. Jesus has been a revelation and Saliba has proved to be a shrewd investment in your talent. Meanwhile, we're still overly reliant on two players pushing 30 (I think Son already is) and we lack cohesion and penetration when either of those two have an off day.
For any Spurs fan to look at our prospects as more rosy than Arsenal's right now is just denial defined. I'm sick of it to be honest because the longer we bury our heads in the sand and not realise how where things are headed, the lower we stoop.
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Listen. I haven't said Arsenal haven't I.proved or are not playing bay or that they are mot a good team, have I? Correct me if I am wrong ! You could have avoided your rambling rant
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
i think it was sobbery cos although arsenal had tasted success before they had never done with such an entertaining brand of football which in turn under Wenger became the norm for arsenal fans success AND great on the eye football, this is what led to a lot of snobbery amongst the fans thinking it had always and always will be like that.
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Not if they were right that it was better to sack Wenger. Then it's not snobbery it's knowledge of football. We'll never really know.
The irony is the same argument is being levelled at spurs fans who want entertaining football and don't want Conte as manager. At least I've seen it in debates on youtube where the pundits have suggested spurs fans stop moaning about unenjoyable football because they've got such a top manager. I have no idea who's right in this case either.
*well, not bay
*not, not mot
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 44 seconds ago
Firstly OP if it's genuine debate you want then you want to start by deleting obsessed trolls like TopForm from this thread, an over excited smug goooner who's only going to spout garbage on a thread like this.
Secondly, is this just a repeat of said TopForms early BS post about Spurs style of play? Seems like it and that post was simply a wum.
In response though I'm with Ace on this one. We haven't hit form but are putting points on the board. We have a hectic schedule.. this last week away at Arsenal away at Frankfurt away at Brighton. Some players missing, some just coming back from injury. It's been a tough week made worse by the death of our very popular first team fitness coach. In those circumstances, you just take the points in a tough game like BHA(a).
We have scored for fun since about Feb when we started to show some form under Conte. That form has continued this season but the displays have not but we know we can play better. The question of others is can they still pick up points when performances ain't great...Liverpool cannot, Utd and CFC couldn't but seem to be now, we all know City can and Arsenal yet to proove anything as they've had 1 tough away game and they lost it.
Some Spurs fans wetting their pants a bit about our style. Others appreciate its a marathon not a sprint and the fixture list is bonkers for the big clubs in UCL. I suspect Conte just wants us to get through to the WC well played and all to play for, so pragmatism is the key right now. That said we need to play better and we are well capable of doing so. IMO we are more likely to start to play better than start to lose games regularly. But we'll see.
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I try not to delete comments and filter people chief ... IMO it can ruin threads and damages the site.
He seems to be half and half with serious points and wumming.
Na the thread came from genuinely falling asleep during the spurs game mate. I just thought the game was snoozefest tbf. Spurs have always been an entertaining attacking team. but then you are sitting in 3rd. So created this to see where the spurs fans are at. Just fancied a bit of debate on the site. thats kinda the point of it.
It annoys me a little though that fans just assume since I am Scottish and a Rangers fan then my opinion is null and void.
Im a football fan and love talking about football is all.
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Takes 2 teams to make a game, we were the away team so were always going to be solid against a team unbeaten at home in 7 months. Wasn't the best but it was well contested and 3 points at the end of a tough week for the players and club and manager.
You wanna judge Spurs on the basis of that performance then crack on, and no one will take you seriously.
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true it does take two to tango. Id argue its been the last 3 games that the football has bene boring however... And judging by the guys on here many other Spurs fans agree?
thats why I am asking the question are Spurs fans happy to take better results over a less attractive football? And if so what do they think the cut off will be before the football on show will not be acceptable.
Is it a case of if you finish top 4 then your not overly fussed about the style?
its a forum about talking about football all im doing is just that.
If it (or myself) annoy you just avoid the thread.
There's a phone in debate on this very topic here whodunnit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALvCB9h5rFU
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 44 seconds ago
Firstly OP if it's genuine debate you want then you want to start by deleting obsessed trolls like TopForm from this thread, an over excited smug goooner who's only going to spout garbage on a thread like this.
Secondly, is this just a repeat of said TopForms early BS post about Spurs style of play? Seems like it and that post was simply a wum.
In response though I'm with Ace on this one. We haven't hit form but are putting points on the board. We have a hectic schedule.. this last week away at Arsenal away at Frankfurt away at Brighton. Some players missing, some just coming back from injury. It's been a tough week made worse by the death of our very popular first team fitness coach. In those circumstances, you just take the points in a tough game like BHA(a).
We have scored for fun since about Feb when we started to show some form under Conte. That form has continued this season but the displays have not but we know we can play better. The question of others is can they still pick up points when performances ain't great...Liverpool cannot, Utd and CFC couldn't but seem to be now, we all know City can and Arsenal yet to proove anything as they've had 1 tough away game and they lost it.
Some Spurs fans wetting their pants a bit about our style. Others appreciate its a marathon not a sprint and the fixture list is bonkers for the big clubs in UCL. I suspect Conte just wants us to get through to the WC well played and all to play for, so pragmatism is the key right now. That said we need to play better and we are well capable of doing so. IMO we are more likely to start to play better than start to lose games regularly. But we'll see.
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I try not to delete comments and filter people chief ... IMO it can ruin threads and damages the site.
He seems to be half and half with serious points and wumming.
Na the thread came from genuinely falling asleep during the spurs game mate. I just thought the game was snoozefest tbf. Spurs have always been an entertaining attacking team. but then you are sitting in 3rd. So created this to see where the spurs fans are at. Just fancied a bit of debate on the site. thats kinda the point of it.
It annoys me a little though that fans just assume since I am Scottish and a Rangers fan then my opinion is null and void.
Im a football fan and love talking about football is all.
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Takes 2 teams to make a game, we were the away team so were always going to be solid against a team unbeaten at home in 7 months. Wasn't the best but it was well contested and 3 points at the end of a tough week for the players and club and manager.
You wanna judge Spurs on the basis of that performance then crack on, and no one will take you seriously.
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true it does take two to tango. Id argue its been the last 3 games that the football has bene boring however... And judging by the guys on here many other Spurs fans agree?
thats why I am asking the question are Spurs fans happy to take better results over a less attractive football? And if so what do they think the cut off will be before the football on show will not be acceptable.
Is it a case of if you finish top 4 then your not overly fussed about the style?
its a forum about talking about football all im doing is just that.
If it (or myself) annoy you just avoid the thread.
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The fundamental point is this... the football has not really set the pulse racing this season, but our decent form over about 25 games spanning 2 seasons has not been typified by boring football. It has been at times when we haven't played that well but there had also been plenty of high scoring enjoyable performances.
If observers like you think we are playing at our peak levels and being boring then may be you know less about football than you think. There are plenty Spurs fans who fall into this category. Unwilling to acknowledge or just blind to the fact that we can and have played much better and more entertaining stuff.
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 12 minutes ago
There's a phone in debate on this very topic here whodunnit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALvCB9h5rFU
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Greatest manager we've ever had . What an effin' moron!
He's got us in the CL, once. He's not even close to Poch let alone be considered up there as one of the greatest. To be honest, that guy sounded like he was gonna be as thick as pig shiiiiiit and he was.
Yeh we`ve played some dull stuff but we`ve also played some scintillating stuff also, we have scored plenty of goals in some games and have been more pragmatic in some very tough away games, which is the way to go with this current squad.
We have to remember Conte does not have his finished squad yet, it takes a few windows to get all the players you want and several of the current squad are make do players until other targets become attainable.
On the whole it is what it is and it`s a results business, it is also a long season.
Woolwich may be riding the crest of a wave at the moment, thanks to a very friendly fixture list and some favourable refereeing, which all adds up to momentum and a confidence boost. But they will not keep it up and will have tougher runs of fixtures to come, along with injuries and a change of luck.
I think Woolwich are looking good for 4th or 5th place this season though, it depends on whether Penited get their act together or not.
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 hours, 49 minutes ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
I dont see any evidence of WUMMING in my OP?
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Apart from the bit where you start of by saying some of your fans are incapable of debate. Pull the other oneEven I don't go so far as to post threads on here.
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well if the filter me in the middle of a debate cos they dont wanna answer a direct question that may put a negative light on their point or there team then yes I am 100% correct in saying some of their fans are incapable of debate ... that is not exclusive to Spurs however.
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To be fair, if it was Sandy, he is renowned on here for being trigger happy with the filter button so I wouldn't take it too personal. If it is any consolation he unfiltered me recently after about a year, out of the blue - not sure why?
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 hours, 49 minutes ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
I dont see any evidence of WUMMING in my OP?
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Apart from the bit where you start of by saying some of your fans are incapable of debate. Pull the other oneEven I don't go so far as to post threads on here.
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well if the filter me in the middle of a debate cos they dont wanna answer a direct question that may put a negative light on their point or there team then yes I am 100% correct in saying some of their fans are incapable of debate ... that is not exclusive to Spurs however.
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To be fair, if it was Sandy, he is renowned on here for being trigger happy with the filter button so I wouldn't take it too personal. If it is any consolation he unfiltered me recently after about a year, out of the blue - not sure why?
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all I did was ask him if he thought the football from spurs was attractive. Granted he had avoided the question 2/3 times and it was my third time of asking but instead of just saying it wasnt great he filtered me instead. ah well
**whilst at the same time claiming that beating Brighton was and is a bigger result than beating Liverpool.
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 17 minutes ago
**whilst at the same time claiming that beating Brighton was and is a bigger result than beating Liverpool.
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Same amount of points.
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 17 minutes ago
**whilst at the same time claiming that beating Brighton was and is a bigger result than beating Liverpool.
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Same amount of points.
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which only proves my point further. equal points then neither is bigger than the other by your logic. (i didnt claim any resut was bigger than any other only him)
If Sandy thinks Brighton are a bigger victory for spurs than Liverpool are for Arsenal then who am I to argue
If we are so boring, how come we are currently the joint third highest goalscorers in the PL.....just saying.
Frankly this constant chipping away at Spurs style of play is a clear narrative the media are going with, to save them actually giving Spurs any credit for their results to date, including btw a win at a club who haven't lost a home for seven months. Kinda harder that City thrashing Southampton at home, even if the media think it was amazing. Unfortunately, as is always the case, Spurs fans feel the need to join in with it.
Outside of City, every team has games that are not great on the eye, but football is 100% a results business and frankly I don't give a toss how boring we look ( which I don't actually agree with ) if it means we are at the right end of the table.
Followed Spurs long enough to know our so called attractive, tippy tappy football of days gone by, whilst easy on the eye, won us SFA. You can keep the days of Hoddle's 40 yard cross ball to someone, then lose the bloody game anyway.
As for this post, being a none Spurs fan anyway.....who the hell cares what he thinks of our style of play.
Followed Spurs long enough to know our so called attractive, tippy tappy football of days gone by, whilst easy on the eye, won us SFA. You can keep the days of Hoddle's 40 yard cross ball to someone, then lose the bloody game anyway.
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If you have followed Spurs long enough, then you know every time the media big us up we fail, so this so called narrative you speak of, is perfect for us in the long run.
Didn’t we score six goals in our last home game?
What the fa q do people want?
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
If Sandy thinks Brighton are a bigger victory for spurs than Liverpool are for Arsenal then who am I to argue
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You're clearly an idiot, so you are correct, Sandy's view trumps yours.
We are not good to watch,by any definition.
Our counter attacks now stop half way through and we go backwards or we let Son have the ball and he loses it.
I was willing to sell our soul under Jose and look where that got us.
We are not going to win the league as long as Pep remains and is funded. So rather than grind out results to finish top four, I think we have to players to play more expansive to still finish top for.
No team who plays Royal as a wing back will be successful long term. He actually compromises the left wing back as there is no threat down his flank.
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comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 44 seconds ago
Firstly OP if it's genuine debate you want then you want to start by deleting obsessed trolls like TopForm from this thread, an over excited smug goooner who's only going to spout garbage on a thread like this.
Secondly, is this just a repeat of said TopForms early BS post about Spurs style of play? Seems like it and that post was simply a wum.
In response though I'm with Ace on this one. We haven't hit form but are putting points on the board. We have a hectic schedule.. this last week away at Arsenal away at Frankfurt away at Brighton. Some players missing, some just coming back from injury. It's been a tough week made worse by the death of our very popular first team fitness coach. In those circumstances, you just take the points in a tough game like BHA(a).
We have scored for fun since about Feb when we started to show some form under Conte. That form has continued this season but the displays have not but we know we can play better. The question of others is can they still pick up points when performances ain't great...Liverpool cannot, Utd and CFC couldn't but seem to be now, we all know City can and Arsenal yet to proove anything as they've had 1 tough away game and they lost it.
Some Spurs fans wetting their pants a bit about our style. Others appreciate its a marathon not a sprint and the fixture list is bonkers for the big clubs in UCL. I suspect Conte just wants us to get through to the WC well played and all to play for, so pragmatism is the key right now. That said we need to play better and we are well capable of doing so. IMO we are more likely to start to play better than start to lose games regularly. But we'll see.
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I try not to delete comments and filter people chief ... IMO it can ruin threads and damages the site.
He seems to be half and half with serious points and wumming.
Na the thread came from genuinely falling asleep during the spurs game mate. I just thought the game was snoozefest tbf. Spurs have always been an entertaining attacking team. but then you are sitting in 3rd. So created this to see where the spurs fans are at. Just fancied a bit of debate on the site. thats kinda the point of it.
It annoys me a little though that fans just assume since I am Scottish and a Rangers fan then my opinion is null and void.
Im a football fan and love talking about football is all.
posted on 10/10/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
I dont see any evidence of WUMMING in my OP?
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Apart from the bit where you start of by saying some of your fans are incapable of debate. Pull the other one Even I don't go so far as to post threads on here.
posted on 10/10/22
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
I dont see any evidence of WUMMING in my OP?
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Apart from the bit where you start of by saying some of your fans are incapable of debate. Pull the other oneEven I don't go so far as to post threads on here.
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well if the filter me in the middle of a debate cos they dont wanna answer a direct question that may put a negative light on their point or there team then yes I am 100% correct in saying some of their fans are incapable of debate ... that is not exclusive to Spurs however.
posted on 10/10/22
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
Firstly OP if it's genuine debate you want then you want to start by deleting obsessed trolls like TopForm from this thread, an over excited smug goooner who's only going to spout garbage on a thread like this.
Secondly, is this just a repeat of said TopForms early BS post about Spurs style of play? Seems like it and that post was simply a wum.
In response though I'm with Ace on this one. We haven't hit form but are putting points on the board. We have a hectic schedule.. this last week away at Arsenal away at Frankfurt away at Brighton. Some players missing, some just coming back from injury. It's been a tough week made worse by the death of our very popular first team fitness coach. In those circumstances, you just take the points in a tough game like BHA(a).
We have scored for fun since about Feb when we started to show some form under Conte. That form has continued this season but the displays have not but we know we can play better. The question of others is can they still pick up points when performances ain't great...Liverpool cannot, Utd and CFC couldn't but seem to be now, we all know City can and Arsenal yet to proove anything as they've had 1 tough away game and they lost it.
Some Spurs fans wetting their pants a bit about our style. Others appreciate its a marathon not a sprint and the fixture list is bonkers for the big clubs in UCL. I suspect Conte just wants us to get through to the WC well played and all to play for, so pragmatism is the key right now. That said we need to play better and we are well capable of doing so. IMO we are more likely to start to play better than start to lose games regularly. But we'll see.
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Dev, that bit about Arsenal not yet having proved anything is just another in a long line of blinded comments from Spurs fans about just how far they've come since last year. It's patently untrue. They're top, they've played United, Spurs and Liverpool and won two out of three. They lost to United but on another day they'd have made their domination count. This pathetic playing down of their progress and inflating our own is frankly absurd. I've been saying since early last year that there were signs of Arsenal's progression, faith in youth and wise transfer policy yet anything I brought it up I was accused of supporting them and bashing Spurs. Clearly, I was right but even now, when the facts are laid bare and Arsenal are flying, still there are fans in complete denial. They've improved hugely. Jesus has been a revelation and Saliba has proved to be a shrewd investment in your talent. Meanwhile, we're still overly reliant on two players pushing 30 (I think Son already is) and we lack cohesion and penetration when either of those two have an off day.
For any Spurs fan to look at our prospects as more rosy than Arsenal's right now is just denial defined. I'm sick of it to be honest because the longer we bury our heads in the sand and not realise how where things are headed, the lower we stoop.
posted on 10/10/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 44 seconds ago
Firstly OP if it's genuine debate you want then you want to start by deleting obsessed trolls like TopForm from this thread, an over excited smug goooner who's only going to spout garbage on a thread like this.
Secondly, is this just a repeat of said TopForms early BS post about Spurs style of play? Seems like it and that post was simply a wum.
In response though I'm with Ace on this one. We haven't hit form but are putting points on the board. We have a hectic schedule.. this last week away at Arsenal away at Frankfurt away at Brighton. Some players missing, some just coming back from injury. It's been a tough week made worse by the death of our very popular first team fitness coach. In those circumstances, you just take the points in a tough game like BHA(a).
We have scored for fun since about Feb when we started to show some form under Conte. That form has continued this season but the displays have not but we know we can play better. The question of others is can they still pick up points when performances ain't great...Liverpool cannot, Utd and CFC couldn't but seem to be now, we all know City can and Arsenal yet to proove anything as they've had 1 tough away game and they lost it.
Some Spurs fans wetting their pants a bit about our style. Others appreciate its a marathon not a sprint and the fixture list is bonkers for the big clubs in UCL. I suspect Conte just wants us to get through to the WC well played and all to play for, so pragmatism is the key right now. That said we need to play better and we are well capable of doing so. IMO we are more likely to start to play better than start to lose games regularly. But we'll see.
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I try not to delete comments and filter people chief ... IMO it can ruin threads and damages the site.
He seems to be half and half with serious points and wumming.
Na the thread came from genuinely falling asleep during the spurs game mate. I just thought the game was snoozefest tbf. Spurs have always been an entertaining attacking team. but then you are sitting in 3rd. So created this to see where the spurs fans are at. Just fancied a bit of debate on the site. thats kinda the point of it.
It annoys me a little though that fans just assume since I am Scottish and a Rangers fan then my opinion is null and void.
Im a football fan and love talking about football is all.
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Takes 2 teams to make a game, we were the away team so were always going to be solid against a team unbeaten at home in 7 months. Wasn't the best but it was well contested and 3 points at the end of a tough week for the players and club and manager.
You wanna judge Spurs on the basis of that performance then crack on, and no one will take you seriously.
posted on 10/10/22
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
Firstly OP if it's genuine debate you want then you want to start by deleting obsessed trolls like TopForm from this thread, an over excited smug goooner who's only going to spout garbage on a thread like this.
Secondly, is this just a repeat of said TopForms early BS post about Spurs style of play? Seems like it and that post was simply a wum.
In response though I'm with Ace on this one. We haven't hit form but are putting points on the board. We have a hectic schedule.. this last week away at Arsenal away at Frankfurt away at Brighton. Some players missing, some just coming back from injury. It's been a tough week made worse by the death of our very popular first team fitness coach. In those circumstances, you just take the points in a tough game like BHA(a).
We have scored for fun since about Feb when we started to show some form under Conte. That form has continued this season but the displays have not but we know we can play better. The question of others is can they still pick up points when performances ain't great...Liverpool cannot, Utd and CFC couldn't but seem to be now, we all know City can and Arsenal yet to proove anything as they've had 1 tough away game and they lost it.
Some Spurs fans wetting their pants a bit about our style. Others appreciate its a marathon not a sprint and the fixture list is bonkers for the big clubs in UCL. I suspect Conte just wants us to get through to the WC well played and all to play for, so pragmatism is the key right now. That said we need to play better and we are well capable of doing so. IMO we are more likely to start to play better than start to lose games regularly. But we'll see.
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Dev, that bit about Arsenal not yet having proved anything is just another in a long line of blinded comments from Spurs fans about just how far they've come since last year. It's patently untrue. They're top, they've played United, Spurs and Liverpool and won two out of three. They lost to United but on another day they'd have made their domination count. This pathetic playing down of their progress and inflating our own is frankly absurd. I've been saying since early last year that there were signs of Arsenal's progression, faith in youth and wise transfer policy yet anything I brought it up I was accused of supporting them and bashing Spurs. Clearly, I was right but even now, when the facts are laid bare and Arsenal are flying, still there are fans in complete denial. They've improved hugely. Jesus has been a revelation and Saliba has proved to be a shrewd investment in your talent. Meanwhile, we're still overly reliant on two players pushing 30 (I think Son already is) and we lack cohesion and penetration when either of those two have an off day.
For any Spurs fan to look at our prospects as more rosy than Arsenal's right now is just denial defined. I'm sick of it to be honest because the longer we bury our heads in the sand and not realise how where things are headed, the lower we stoop.
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Listen. I haven't said Arsenal haven't I.proved or are not playing bay or that they are mot a good team, have I? Correct me if I am wrong ! You could have avoided your rambling rant
posted on 10/10/22
*improved
posted on 10/10/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
i think it was sobbery cos although arsenal had tasted success before they had never done with such an entertaining brand of football which in turn under Wenger became the norm for arsenal fans success AND great on the eye football, this is what led to a lot of snobbery amongst the fans thinking it had always and always will be like that.
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Not if they were right that it was better to sack Wenger. Then it's not snobbery it's knowledge of football. We'll never really know.
The irony is the same argument is being levelled at spurs fans who want entertaining football and don't want Conte as manager. At least I've seen it in debates on youtube where the pundits have suggested spurs fans stop moaning about unenjoyable football because they've got such a top manager. I have no idea who's right in this case either.
posted on 10/10/22
*well, not bay
*not, not mot
posted on 10/10/22
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 44 seconds ago
Firstly OP if it's genuine debate you want then you want to start by deleting obsessed trolls like TopForm from this thread, an over excited smug goooner who's only going to spout garbage on a thread like this.
Secondly, is this just a repeat of said TopForms early BS post about Spurs style of play? Seems like it and that post was simply a wum.
In response though I'm with Ace on this one. We haven't hit form but are putting points on the board. We have a hectic schedule.. this last week away at Arsenal away at Frankfurt away at Brighton. Some players missing, some just coming back from injury. It's been a tough week made worse by the death of our very popular first team fitness coach. In those circumstances, you just take the points in a tough game like BHA(a).
We have scored for fun since about Feb when we started to show some form under Conte. That form has continued this season but the displays have not but we know we can play better. The question of others is can they still pick up points when performances ain't great...Liverpool cannot, Utd and CFC couldn't but seem to be now, we all know City can and Arsenal yet to proove anything as they've had 1 tough away game and they lost it.
Some Spurs fans wetting their pants a bit about our style. Others appreciate its a marathon not a sprint and the fixture list is bonkers for the big clubs in UCL. I suspect Conte just wants us to get through to the WC well played and all to play for, so pragmatism is the key right now. That said we need to play better and we are well capable of doing so. IMO we are more likely to start to play better than start to lose games regularly. But we'll see.
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I try not to delete comments and filter people chief ... IMO it can ruin threads and damages the site.
He seems to be half and half with serious points and wumming.
Na the thread came from genuinely falling asleep during the spurs game mate. I just thought the game was snoozefest tbf. Spurs have always been an entertaining attacking team. but then you are sitting in 3rd. So created this to see where the spurs fans are at. Just fancied a bit of debate on the site. thats kinda the point of it.
It annoys me a little though that fans just assume since I am Scottish and a Rangers fan then my opinion is null and void.
Im a football fan and love talking about football is all.
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Takes 2 teams to make a game, we were the away team so were always going to be solid against a team unbeaten at home in 7 months. Wasn't the best but it was well contested and 3 points at the end of a tough week for the players and club and manager.
You wanna judge Spurs on the basis of that performance then crack on, and no one will take you seriously.
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true it does take two to tango. Id argue its been the last 3 games that the football has bene boring however... And judging by the guys on here many other Spurs fans agree?
thats why I am asking the question are Spurs fans happy to take better results over a less attractive football? And if so what do they think the cut off will be before the football on show will not be acceptable.
Is it a case of if you finish top 4 then your not overly fussed about the style?
its a forum about talking about football all im doing is just that.
If it (or myself) annoy you just avoid the thread.
posted on 10/10/22
There's a phone in debate on this very topic here whodunnit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALvCB9h5rFU
posted on 10/10/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 44 seconds ago
Firstly OP if it's genuine debate you want then you want to start by deleting obsessed trolls like TopForm from this thread, an over excited smug goooner who's only going to spout garbage on a thread like this.
Secondly, is this just a repeat of said TopForms early BS post about Spurs style of play? Seems like it and that post was simply a wum.
In response though I'm with Ace on this one. We haven't hit form but are putting points on the board. We have a hectic schedule.. this last week away at Arsenal away at Frankfurt away at Brighton. Some players missing, some just coming back from injury. It's been a tough week made worse by the death of our very popular first team fitness coach. In those circumstances, you just take the points in a tough game like BHA(a).
We have scored for fun since about Feb when we started to show some form under Conte. That form has continued this season but the displays have not but we know we can play better. The question of others is can they still pick up points when performances ain't great...Liverpool cannot, Utd and CFC couldn't but seem to be now, we all know City can and Arsenal yet to proove anything as they've had 1 tough away game and they lost it.
Some Spurs fans wetting their pants a bit about our style. Others appreciate its a marathon not a sprint and the fixture list is bonkers for the big clubs in UCL. I suspect Conte just wants us to get through to the WC well played and all to play for, so pragmatism is the key right now. That said we need to play better and we are well capable of doing so. IMO we are more likely to start to play better than start to lose games regularly. But we'll see.
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I try not to delete comments and filter people chief ... IMO it can ruin threads and damages the site.
He seems to be half and half with serious points and wumming.
Na the thread came from genuinely falling asleep during the spurs game mate. I just thought the game was snoozefest tbf. Spurs have always been an entertaining attacking team. but then you are sitting in 3rd. So created this to see where the spurs fans are at. Just fancied a bit of debate on the site. thats kinda the point of it.
It annoys me a little though that fans just assume since I am Scottish and a Rangers fan then my opinion is null and void.
Im a football fan and love talking about football is all.
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Takes 2 teams to make a game, we were the away team so were always going to be solid against a team unbeaten at home in 7 months. Wasn't the best but it was well contested and 3 points at the end of a tough week for the players and club and manager.
You wanna judge Spurs on the basis of that performance then crack on, and no one will take you seriously.
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true it does take two to tango. Id argue its been the last 3 games that the football has bene boring however... And judging by the guys on here many other Spurs fans agree?
thats why I am asking the question are Spurs fans happy to take better results over a less attractive football? And if so what do they think the cut off will be before the football on show will not be acceptable.
Is it a case of if you finish top 4 then your not overly fussed about the style?
its a forum about talking about football all im doing is just that.
If it (or myself) annoy you just avoid the thread.
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The fundamental point is this... the football has not really set the pulse racing this season, but our decent form over about 25 games spanning 2 seasons has not been typified by boring football. It has been at times when we haven't played that well but there had also been plenty of high scoring enjoyable performances.
If observers like you think we are playing at our peak levels and being boring then may be you know less about football than you think. There are plenty Spurs fans who fall into this category. Unwilling to acknowledge or just blind to the fact that we can and have played much better and more entertaining stuff.
posted on 10/10/22
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 12 minutes ago
There's a phone in debate on this very topic here whodunnit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALvCB9h5rFU
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Greatest manager we've ever had . What an effin' moron!
He's got us in the CL, once. He's not even close to Poch let alone be considered up there as one of the greatest. To be honest, that guy sounded like he was gonna be as thick as pig shiiiiiit and he was.
posted on 10/10/22
Yeh we`ve played some dull stuff but we`ve also played some scintillating stuff also, we have scored plenty of goals in some games and have been more pragmatic in some very tough away games, which is the way to go with this current squad.
We have to remember Conte does not have his finished squad yet, it takes a few windows to get all the players you want and several of the current squad are make do players until other targets become attainable.
On the whole it is what it is and it`s a results business, it is also a long season.
Woolwich may be riding the crest of a wave at the moment, thanks to a very friendly fixture list and some favourable refereeing, which all adds up to momentum and a confidence boost. But they will not keep it up and will have tougher runs of fixtures to come, along with injuries and a change of luck.
I think Woolwich are looking good for 4th or 5th place this season though, it depends on whether Penited get their act together or not.
posted on 10/10/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 hours, 49 minutes ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
I dont see any evidence of WUMMING in my OP?
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Apart from the bit where you start of by saying some of your fans are incapable of debate. Pull the other oneEven I don't go so far as to post threads on here.
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well if the filter me in the middle of a debate cos they dont wanna answer a direct question that may put a negative light on their point or there team then yes I am 100% correct in saying some of their fans are incapable of debate ... that is not exclusive to Spurs however.
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To be fair, if it was Sandy, he is renowned on here for being trigger happy with the filter button so I wouldn't take it too personal. If it is any consolation he unfiltered me recently after about a year, out of the blue - not sure why?
posted on 10/10/22
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 hours, 49 minutes ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
I dont see any evidence of WUMMING in my OP?
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Apart from the bit where you start of by saying some of your fans are incapable of debate. Pull the other oneEven I don't go so far as to post threads on here.
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well if the filter me in the middle of a debate cos they dont wanna answer a direct question that may put a negative light on their point or there team then yes I am 100% correct in saying some of their fans are incapable of debate ... that is not exclusive to Spurs however.
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To be fair, if it was Sandy, he is renowned on here for being trigger happy with the filter button so I wouldn't take it too personal. If it is any consolation he unfiltered me recently after about a year, out of the blue - not sure why?
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all I did was ask him if he thought the football from spurs was attractive. Granted he had avoided the question 2/3 times and it was my third time of asking but instead of just saying it wasnt great he filtered me instead. ah well
posted on 10/10/22
**whilst at the same time claiming that beating Brighton was and is a bigger result than beating Liverpool.
posted on 10/10/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 17 minutes ago
**whilst at the same time claiming that beating Brighton was and is a bigger result than beating Liverpool.
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Same amount of points.
posted on 10/10/22
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 17 minutes ago
**whilst at the same time claiming that beating Brighton was and is a bigger result than beating Liverpool.
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Same amount of points.
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which only proves my point further. equal points then neither is bigger than the other by your logic. (i didnt claim any resut was bigger than any other only him)
posted on 10/10/22
If Sandy thinks Brighton are a bigger victory for spurs than Liverpool are for Arsenal then who am I to argue
posted on 10/10/22
If we are so boring, how come we are currently the joint third highest goalscorers in the PL.....just saying.
Frankly this constant chipping away at Spurs style of play is a clear narrative the media are going with, to save them actually giving Spurs any credit for their results to date, including btw a win at a club who haven't lost a home for seven months. Kinda harder that City thrashing Southampton at home, even if the media think it was amazing. Unfortunately, as is always the case, Spurs fans feel the need to join in with it.
Outside of City, every team has games that are not great on the eye, but football is 100% a results business and frankly I don't give a toss how boring we look ( which I don't actually agree with ) if it means we are at the right end of the table.
Followed Spurs long enough to know our so called attractive, tippy tappy football of days gone by, whilst easy on the eye, won us SFA. You can keep the days of Hoddle's 40 yard cross ball to someone, then lose the bloody game anyway.
As for this post, being a none Spurs fan anyway.....who the hell cares what he thinks of our style of play.
posted on 10/10/22
Followed Spurs long enough to know our so called attractive, tippy tappy football of days gone by, whilst easy on the eye, won us SFA. You can keep the days of Hoddle's 40 yard cross ball to someone, then lose the bloody game anyway.
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If you have followed Spurs long enough, then you know every time the media big us up we fail, so this so called narrative you speak of, is perfect for us in the long run.
posted on 10/10/22
Didn’t we score six goals in our last home game?
What the fa q do people want?
posted on 10/10/22
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
If Sandy thinks Brighton are a bigger victory for spurs than Liverpool are for Arsenal then who am I to argue
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You're clearly an idiot, so you are correct, Sandy's view trumps yours.
posted on 10/10/22
We are not good to watch,by any definition.
Our counter attacks now stop half way through and we go backwards or we let Son have the ball and he loses it.
I was willing to sell our soul under Jose and look where that got us.
We are not going to win the league as long as Pep remains and is funded. So rather than grind out results to finish top four, I think we have to players to play more expansive to still finish top for.
No team who plays Royal as a wing back will be successful long term. He actually compromises the left wing back as there is no threat down his flank.
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