I can’t really see one. Not a coherent one anyway. It’s clear the owner and board were so collectively shortsighted last season that they just didn’t see this coming. On the other hand, the fans could see last season that things were going pretty wrong on the pitch and we needed fresh signings to give the squad a refresh while also keeping the finger on the Rodgers out button if we started badly.
Sadly the board were busy over the last 2 years spending money they didn’t have on piiisss poor players while assuming everything would just carry on as normal under Rodgers. So now they don’t have a plan or a way out of this. It’s probably why our hapless owner looked like he was going to burst into tears towards the end.
They’ve facked a well run and stable club and there’s no way back for us or them. Don’t expect any communication until Rodgers goes somewhere near Xmas by which point we’ll be focussing on beating Derbys record low total
For the most part, the plan seems to be ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
On the football side, we have a manager who has the list the plot and a group of players who have hit a brick wall. Everybody bar the Brendan sycophants in the ex-pros media cabal can see that he can't take us forward, but Top refuses to engage with reality. Blind faith is not a strategy, it's a reflex and one we seem to be stuck with until he finally sees sense. Rodgers has been given too much power and we have moved away from our model which has left us with a weak but expensive squad.
Off the pitch, we have spent £100m on a brand new training ground which is one of the best in the world although it's not clear whether any training actually goes on there. We are also preparing to invest another £100m on a stadium redevelopment - the biggest infrastructure project since we moved from Filbert Street to the Walkers/KP - which is something that should, in theory, establish us as a top 7-10 team, though that is now being put at risk by our current predicament. I can see the project being either scaled back or shelved completely until we are hopefully I'm a more stable position to go ahead with it. There really is no point in another 8,000 seats and a swanky hotel when we will most likely be in the Championship next season.
One thing I'll say in defence of Top and the decision makers is that FFP has clearly been something that has held us back. However well intentioned it might have been at inception, it's implementation has acted as a massive deterrent for ambitions, medium-sized clubs like Leicester to be able to compete with the big boys. That's why we are going for big infrastructure projects, so we can improve our revenue, but it's been a big pain for us in the medium term and will continue to be, especially if we fall foul of the rules.
In general, I suspect that the football club has now hit a ceiling. We missed out on Champions League football twice in a row and the chances of us pushing for that any time in the next 5-10 years is minimal. We are falling behind cash rich clubs like Newcastle and well-run clubs like Brighton and Brentford. The mistakes that have been made over the past couple of years have completely killed off our chances of competing with the elite and has put us at risk of returning to our old ways of just another middle-of-the-road club. It's a complete betrayal of the vision Vichai set out and delivered as chairman.
I think that’s the most bitter of pills to swallow - the legacy of Vichai being slowly eroded by Top and the Board who seem utterly paralyzed.
The FFP is another issue I take umbrage with as, in my limited view, it seems to only ensure the biggest clubs remain the biggest clubs. Those that are ‘financially doped’ such as Man City, Chelsea, Spurs etc are free to continue whilst every other club has to cut their cloth with limited chance to really progress.
That aside, our ambitions are not to compete for the Top 6. They never were, not really. Top 10 is/was the ambition and all the infrastructure envisioned by Vichai were aimed at cementing that ambition.
I still see this season as salvageable but with each passing game it obviously gets harder and harder.
The mind games in Rodgers’ pre and post match interviews are blindingly obvious and aimed at positioning himself as beyond dismissal.
What a mess.
The Club gave us the plan a few weeks ago?
Everything else is just bolloxs, mismanagement in the last 2-3 Years, you mean the Years we disrupted the Top 6 Twice and Won the FA Cup, semi Final of a European Cup even if it is a Mickey Mouse one.
Personally I hate Rodgers with all my Soul, he is destroying the Club from the inside in my opinion, an opinion I've had for at least 12 months now, not just a few weeks like most on here but at the End of the day I respect Top to make the decisions he thinks are best for the Club.
The Best Owners we could ever of had and still have, F&ck Rodgers but respect to Top and Co., they'll get there when they believe the time is right.
And that’s the problem with some of our fan base right there. They can’t see the difference between Vichais legacy and what Top and the board are now doing
The top 6 finishes and FA cup all came in the aftermath of Vichais passing, based on the foundations he built, the money he invested from his business and the structure he put in place. It was his ambition to disrupt the elite - it wasn’t his ambition to:
- Rack up bigger losses than Manchester United
- Almost break FFP to the point of a self imposed transfer embargo
- Undo the fantastic recruitment of the last few years by handing Rodgers control over it
- See us spiral out of control on the pitch nailed on for relegation
- STILL fail to see the problem (Rodgers) and not do anything about it
- Let players leave for nothing because contracts haven’t been managed
If Leicester fans can’t see the direction this club is going in under the current administration and the marked difference between Vichais ownership and Tops then it’s time for them to do some serious soul searching. They’ll have time for that over the summer as we prepare for a season in the championship by selling our best players
And as for the plan that was published weeks ago that TB refers to - did that plan include relegation as part of a vision to build a sustainable club that can ‘compete with the elite’ as Top puts it?
By the way - I don’t doubt Tops commitment to the club. I don’t doubt his passion. He was involved with his father and part of our success. I do however entirely doubt his ruthlessness to make the hard decisions his father did and I definitely have doubts in his financial management of the club. Two very big worries
comment by Fox in the Caribbean (U22645)
posted 2 hours, 42 minutes ago
..................That aside, our ambitions are not to compete for the Top 6. They never were, not really. Top 10 is/was the ambition and all the infrastructure envisioned by Vichai were aimed at cementing that ambition.
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That's not my recollection, I recall Vichai wanted us to be challenging for Europe with the possibility of winning things.
Which he achieved spectacularly well very quickly indeed.
Being an also ran wasn't in his psyche.
As for the plan, wasn't it 6 points in the last 3 games or you're sacked? Still waiting for that announcement.
comment by Nuneaton_fox (U7936)
posted 6 minutes ago
As for the plan, wasn't it 6 points in the last 3 games or you're sacked? Still waiting for that announcement.
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So many things said by people who obviously don't actually know anything!
comment by True Blue ( RODGERS can F&CK OFF ) (U9486)
posted 2 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by Nuneaton_fox (U7936)
posted 6 minutes ago
As for the plan, wasn't it 6 points in the last 3 games or you're sacked? Still waiting for that announcement.
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So many things said by people who obviously don't actually know anything!
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I'm not really expecting any action. You can but hope I suppose. Either that or for some miraculous turnaround on Thursday.
What we know is;
- The club has made an unsustainable financial loss this year leading to a practically self imposed transfer embargo
- Contracts are running down and we’re losing 2 expensive assets for nothing
- We’re sat bottom of the table in a position that only one other team has recovered from because our owner won’t make the obvious call
- We have a disenchanted fan base who are expecting relegation
- We won’t the FA cup only 18 months ago
But yeah, apart from that things are really looking up. Massive respect to Top and the board for where the club is headed
Don’t let the facts get in the way TB….
Bodget walking out of a press conference because he was asked if his pay off a was the reason he hadn’t been sacked yet! 😂😂😂😂😂
Actually, I think I’ve realised what the plan is, as regards Brendan at least. Top would appear to be waiting for Wolves or Villa, if they sack Gerrard, to come in for BR. That way, we won’t have to pay £10m compensation and could even bank up to that amount from whoever employs him.
So if Fulham beat Villa on Thursday…….
😉
Thought they wanted Poch?
Rodgers might be more realistic though
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posted on 16/10/22
I can’t really see one. Not a coherent one anyway. It’s clear the owner and board were so collectively shortsighted last season that they just didn’t see this coming. On the other hand, the fans could see last season that things were going pretty wrong on the pitch and we needed fresh signings to give the squad a refresh while also keeping the finger on the Rodgers out button if we started badly.
Sadly the board were busy over the last 2 years spending money they didn’t have on piiisss poor players while assuming everything would just carry on as normal under Rodgers. So now they don’t have a plan or a way out of this. It’s probably why our hapless owner looked like he was going to burst into tears towards the end.
They’ve facked a well run and stable club and there’s no way back for us or them. Don’t expect any communication until Rodgers goes somewhere near Xmas by which point we’ll be focussing on beating Derbys record low total
posted on 16/10/22
For the most part, the plan seems to be ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
On the football side, we have a manager who has the list the plot and a group of players who have hit a brick wall. Everybody bar the Brendan sycophants in the ex-pros media cabal can see that he can't take us forward, but Top refuses to engage with reality. Blind faith is not a strategy, it's a reflex and one we seem to be stuck with until he finally sees sense. Rodgers has been given too much power and we have moved away from our model which has left us with a weak but expensive squad.
Off the pitch, we have spent £100m on a brand new training ground which is one of the best in the world although it's not clear whether any training actually goes on there. We are also preparing to invest another £100m on a stadium redevelopment - the biggest infrastructure project since we moved from Filbert Street to the Walkers/KP - which is something that should, in theory, establish us as a top 7-10 team, though that is now being put at risk by our current predicament. I can see the project being either scaled back or shelved completely until we are hopefully I'm a more stable position to go ahead with it. There really is no point in another 8,000 seats and a swanky hotel when we will most likely be in the Championship next season.
One thing I'll say in defence of Top and the decision makers is that FFP has clearly been something that has held us back. However well intentioned it might have been at inception, it's implementation has acted as a massive deterrent for ambitions, medium-sized clubs like Leicester to be able to compete with the big boys. That's why we are going for big infrastructure projects, so we can improve our revenue, but it's been a big pain for us in the medium term and will continue to be, especially if we fall foul of the rules.
In general, I suspect that the football club has now hit a ceiling. We missed out on Champions League football twice in a row and the chances of us pushing for that any time in the next 5-10 years is minimal. We are falling behind cash rich clubs like Newcastle and well-run clubs like Brighton and Brentford. The mistakes that have been made over the past couple of years have completely killed off our chances of competing with the elite and has put us at risk of returning to our old ways of just another middle-of-the-road club. It's a complete betrayal of the vision Vichai set out and delivered as chairman.
posted on 16/10/22
I think that’s the most bitter of pills to swallow - the legacy of Vichai being slowly eroded by Top and the Board who seem utterly paralyzed.
The FFP is another issue I take umbrage with as, in my limited view, it seems to only ensure the biggest clubs remain the biggest clubs. Those that are ‘financially doped’ such as Man City, Chelsea, Spurs etc are free to continue whilst every other club has to cut their cloth with limited chance to really progress.
That aside, our ambitions are not to compete for the Top 6. They never were, not really. Top 10 is/was the ambition and all the infrastructure envisioned by Vichai were aimed at cementing that ambition.
I still see this season as salvageable but with each passing game it obviously gets harder and harder.
The mind games in Rodgers’ pre and post match interviews are blindingly obvious and aimed at positioning himself as beyond dismissal.
What a mess.
posted on 16/10/22
The Club gave us the plan a few weeks ago?
Everything else is just bolloxs, mismanagement in the last 2-3 Years, you mean the Years we disrupted the Top 6 Twice and Won the FA Cup, semi Final of a European Cup even if it is a Mickey Mouse one.
Personally I hate Rodgers with all my Soul, he is destroying the Club from the inside in my opinion, an opinion I've had for at least 12 months now, not just a few weeks like most on here but at the End of the day I respect Top to make the decisions he thinks are best for the Club.
The Best Owners we could ever of had and still have, F&ck Rodgers but respect to Top and Co., they'll get there when they believe the time is right.
posted on 16/10/22
And that’s the problem with some of our fan base right there. They can’t see the difference between Vichais legacy and what Top and the board are now doing
The top 6 finishes and FA cup all came in the aftermath of Vichais passing, based on the foundations he built, the money he invested from his business and the structure he put in place. It was his ambition to disrupt the elite - it wasn’t his ambition to:
- Rack up bigger losses than Manchester United
- Almost break FFP to the point of a self imposed transfer embargo
- Undo the fantastic recruitment of the last few years by handing Rodgers control over it
- See us spiral out of control on the pitch nailed on for relegation
- STILL fail to see the problem (Rodgers) and not do anything about it
- Let players leave for nothing because contracts haven’t been managed
If Leicester fans can’t see the direction this club is going in under the current administration and the marked difference between Vichais ownership and Tops then it’s time for them to do some serious soul searching. They’ll have time for that over the summer as we prepare for a season in the championship by selling our best players
posted on 16/10/22
And as for the plan that was published weeks ago that TB refers to - did that plan include relegation as part of a vision to build a sustainable club that can ‘compete with the elite’ as Top puts it?
posted on 16/10/22
By the way - I don’t doubt Tops commitment to the club. I don’t doubt his passion. He was involved with his father and part of our success. I do however entirely doubt his ruthlessness to make the hard decisions his father did and I definitely have doubts in his financial management of the club. Two very big worries
posted on 16/10/22
comment by Fox in the Caribbean (U22645)
posted 2 hours, 42 minutes ago
..................That aside, our ambitions are not to compete for the Top 6. They never were, not really. Top 10 is/was the ambition and all the infrastructure envisioned by Vichai were aimed at cementing that ambition.
.....................
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That's not my recollection, I recall Vichai wanted us to be challenging for Europe with the possibility of winning things.
Which he achieved spectacularly well very quickly indeed.
Being an also ran wasn't in his psyche.
posted on 16/10/22
As for the plan, wasn't it 6 points in the last 3 games or you're sacked? Still waiting for that announcement.
posted on 16/10/22
comment by Nuneaton_fox (U7936)
posted 6 minutes ago
As for the plan, wasn't it 6 points in the last 3 games or you're sacked? Still waiting for that announcement.
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So many things said by people who obviously don't actually know anything!
posted on 16/10/22
comment by True Blue ( RODGERS can F&CK OFF ) (U9486)
posted 2 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by Nuneaton_fox (U7936)
posted 6 minutes ago
As for the plan, wasn't it 6 points in the last 3 games or you're sacked? Still waiting for that announcement.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So many things said by people who obviously don't actually know anything!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm not really expecting any action. You can but hope I suppose. Either that or for some miraculous turnaround on Thursday.
posted on 16/10/22
What we know is;
- The club has made an unsustainable financial loss this year leading to a practically self imposed transfer embargo
- Contracts are running down and we’re losing 2 expensive assets for nothing
- We’re sat bottom of the table in a position that only one other team has recovered from because our owner won’t make the obvious call
- We have a disenchanted fan base who are expecting relegation
- We won’t the FA cup only 18 months ago
But yeah, apart from that things are really looking up. Massive respect to Top and the board for where the club is headed
Don’t let the facts get in the way TB….
posted on 17/10/22
Bodget walking out of a press conference because he was asked if his pay off a was the reason he hadn’t been sacked yet! 😂😂😂😂😂
posted on 18/10/22
Actually, I think I’ve realised what the plan is, as regards Brendan at least. Top would appear to be waiting for Wolves or Villa, if they sack Gerrard, to come in for BR. That way, we won’t have to pay £10m compensation and could even bank up to that amount from whoever employs him.
So if Fulham beat Villa on Thursday…….
😉
posted on 18/10/22
Thought they wanted Poch?
Rodgers might be more realistic though
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