Yeah but that’s because you dismiss pretty much every team outside of about two in England.
In the real world, how teams are looking right now doesn’t tell us much about how things will look come the ko stages of the Europa.
We’ve twice failed to win against teams we should ‘expect’ to beat, and those were teams that didn’t have the same potential upside as some of the teams that look like dropping into the Europa this season.
comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
If it were to be grouped into tiers of elite clubs at the moment it would be
Tier A
Real Madrid
Bayern Munich
Man Utd
Barcelona
Liverpool
Chelsea
Man City
Arsenal
Tottenham
PSG
Tier B
Milan
Atletico
Juve
Ajax
Inter
Newcastle
Porto
Tier C
Napoli
Benfica
Leicester
Everton
Roma
West Ham
Sevilla
Lyon
Tier D
Wolves
Atalanta
Celtic
Aston Villa
Nottingham
Red Bull
Valencia
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I’m not sure Newcastle are more elite than most of the teams you’ve got below them, tbh.., particularly Benfica Roma Napoli Sevilla etc
comment by JonVeron (U6514)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
If it were to be grouped into tiers of elite clubs at the moment it would be
Tier A
Real Madrid
Bayern Munich
Man Utd
Barcelona
Liverpool
Chelsea
Man City
Arsenal
Tottenham
PSG
Tier B
Milan
Atletico
Juve
Ajax
Inter
Newcastle
Porto
Tier C
Napoli
Benfica
Leicester
Everton
Roma
West Ham
Sevilla
Lyon
Tier D
Wolves
Atalanta
Celtic
Aston Villa
Nottingham
Red Bull
Valencia
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I’m not sure Newcastle are more elite than most of the teams you’ve got below them, tbh.., particularly Benfica Roma Napoli Sevilla etc
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It's Barry don't fall for it ffs
Stewart Greacen played once for Dundee and that was as a trialist. Must have been one hell of a game!
comment by James Punn (U21588)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by JonVeron (U6514)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
If it were to be grouped into tiers of elite clubs at the moment it would be
Tier A
Real Madrid
Bayern Munich
Man Utd
Barcelona
Liverpool
Chelsea
Man City
Arsenal
Tottenham
PSG
Tier B
Milan
Atletico
Juve
Ajax
Inter
Newcastle
Porto
Tier C
Napoli
Benfica
Leicester
Everton
Roma
West Ham
Sevilla
Lyon
Tier D
Wolves
Atalanta
Celtic
Aston Villa
Nottingham
Red Bull
Valencia
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I’m not sure Newcastle are more elite than most of the teams you’ve got below them, tbh.., particularly Benfica Roma Napoli Sevilla etc
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It's Barry don't fall for it ffs
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is it? Mega fail.
I’ve not been reading so much lately, lost track of his username changes :D
Good one Barry, love ya
comment by FFS Mike. (U1170)
posted 20 seconds ago
They miss Ronaldo.
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They know where he is.
comment by JonVeron (U6514)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
If it were to be grouped into tiers of elite clubs at the moment it would be
Tier A
Real Madrid
Bayern Munich
Man Utd
Barcelona
Liverpool
Chelsea
Man City
Arsenal
Tottenham
PSG
Tier B
Milan
Atletico
Juve
Ajax
Inter
Newcastle
Porto
Tier C
Napoli
Benfica
Leicester
Everton
Roma
West Ham
Sevilla
Lyon
Tier D
Wolves
Atalanta
Celtic
Aston Villa
Nottingham
Red Bull
Valencia
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I’m not sure Newcastle are more elite than most of the teams you’ve got below them, tbh.., particularly Benfica Roma Napoli Sevilla etc
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They are the richest team in the world. They should arguably be in Tier A, certainly after this season. The top 2 tiers should realistically be the 20 PL teams plus Bayern and Real Madrid but the boomers would kick off when seeing the truth and suggest that some nobodies like Ajax should be in there.
Anyway, given time I think Allegri will turin it around at Juventus.
Nobodies like Ajax? You must be very young or have no idea of football history!
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comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 45 seconds ago
Anyway, given time I think Allegri will turin it around at Juventus.
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Juve heard it here first.
comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 2 minutes ago
Nobodies like Ajax? You must be very young or have no idea of football history!
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They play in a league where the standard is of League One in England. The top half of the Championship would beat them easily. I was going to put a few deserving Championship teams in there ahead of the likes of Ajax as they are basically PL teams every other year so are obviously bigger than a club from a joke league, but again yeah boomers kicking off as expected.
Juve are skint, they want to change manager but can't.
Also the Cuadrado incident which lead to a Benfica penalty was a joke, there is no chance that should have been given.
That a Chelsea flop now well into his 30s plays for Juve is a sign of how far they have fallen.
In the first place please explain the term "boomers" as the way it is used it sounds derogatory.
Secondly, Ajax were once the top team in Europe and had a not-too-bad guy playing for them called Johan Cruyff who at the time was acclaimed as the most skillful player in Europe and the first to execute what is now known as the "Cruyff Turn".
Watson putting Stewart in his place
Thank you bloodred. Kids nowadays eh?
Ajax are maybe about the level of Fulham. A PL yoyo team so essentially a top half Championship team, at best.
Fulham/Ajax combined XI:
-----------------Leno--------------
Robinson----Ream-----Timber----Reid
---------Paulinha-----------------Klaassen
Willian----------Pereira---------Tadic
----------------Mitrovic---------------
So only 3 Ajax players got into the Fulham/Ajax combined XI. Maybe I was giving Ajax more credit than they deserve.
comment by Rosso out here drippin’ in finesse (U17054)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
Barcelona are still competing for the title in their league. To be considered a truly elite team you cannot be languishing outside the top 4 in your league whilst also not competing in the CL. One or the other is fine as you put a big effort into a title race etc. At the moment Juve are not doing either. On second thoughts have added Chelsea as they now do it consistently.
Real Madrid
Bayern
Man Utd
Barcelona (debatable)
Chelsea (debatable)
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Barcelona are coming second in a two horse race. That’s last place “Stewart”.
Although Liverpool are coming eighth in their two horse race. Which is really minus 6th, behind six dead horses.
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Barrosso
For pure skill there is only one player who I would rate above Cruyff and to me remains the best ever. Any guesses?
comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 4 minutes ago
For pure skill there is only one player who I would rate above Cruyff and to me remains the best ever. Any guesses?
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Ronaldinho.
The most skilful there has been.
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 4 minutes ago
For pure skill there is only one player who I would rate above Cruyff and to me remains the best ever. Any guesses?
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Ronaldinho.
The most skilful there has been.
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Think he means in an old timey sense like carrying a pint and a pie on the pitch whilst also playing football.
comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 4 minutes ago
For pure skill there is only one player who I would rate above Cruyff and to me remains the best ever. Any guesses?
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Ronaldinho.
The most skilful there has been.
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Think he means in an old timey sense like carrying a pint and a pie on the pitch whilst also playing football.
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I don’t think he follows Scottish football.
They’re clearly missing Ronaldo eh process?
The most skilful I've seen was Dimitar, I love that name.
But the best player I've seen was George.
As Cruyf said 'You can't teach what Best has'
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posted on 26/10/22
Yeah but that’s because you dismiss pretty much every team outside of about two in England.
In the real world, how teams are looking right now doesn’t tell us much about how things will look come the ko stages of the Europa.
We’ve twice failed to win against teams we should ‘expect’ to beat, and those were teams that didn’t have the same potential upside as some of the teams that look like dropping into the Europa this season.
posted on 26/10/22
comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
If it were to be grouped into tiers of elite clubs at the moment it would be
Tier A
Real Madrid
Bayern Munich
Man Utd
Barcelona
Liverpool
Chelsea
Man City
Arsenal
Tottenham
PSG
Tier B
Milan
Atletico
Juve
Ajax
Inter
Newcastle
Porto
Tier C
Napoli
Benfica
Leicester
Everton
Roma
West Ham
Sevilla
Lyon
Tier D
Wolves
Atalanta
Celtic
Aston Villa
Nottingham
Red Bull
Valencia
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I’m not sure Newcastle are more elite than most of the teams you’ve got below them, tbh.., particularly Benfica Roma Napoli Sevilla etc
posted on 26/10/22
comment by JonVeron (U6514)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
If it were to be grouped into tiers of elite clubs at the moment it would be
Tier A
Real Madrid
Bayern Munich
Man Utd
Barcelona
Liverpool
Chelsea
Man City
Arsenal
Tottenham
PSG
Tier B
Milan
Atletico
Juve
Ajax
Inter
Newcastle
Porto
Tier C
Napoli
Benfica
Leicester
Everton
Roma
West Ham
Sevilla
Lyon
Tier D
Wolves
Atalanta
Celtic
Aston Villa
Nottingham
Red Bull
Valencia
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I’m not sure Newcastle are more elite than most of the teams you’ve got below them, tbh.., particularly Benfica Roma Napoli Sevilla etc
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's Barry don't fall for it ffs
posted on 26/10/22
Stewart Greacen played once for Dundee and that was as a trialist. Must have been one hell of a game!
posted on 26/10/22
They miss Ronaldo.
posted on 26/10/22
comment by James Punn (U21588)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by JonVeron (U6514)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
If it were to be grouped into tiers of elite clubs at the moment it would be
Tier A
Real Madrid
Bayern Munich
Man Utd
Barcelona
Liverpool
Chelsea
Man City
Arsenal
Tottenham
PSG
Tier B
Milan
Atletico
Juve
Ajax
Inter
Newcastle
Porto
Tier C
Napoli
Benfica
Leicester
Everton
Roma
West Ham
Sevilla
Lyon
Tier D
Wolves
Atalanta
Celtic
Aston Villa
Nottingham
Red Bull
Valencia
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’m not sure Newcastle are more elite than most of the teams you’ve got below them, tbh.., particularly Benfica Roma Napoli Sevilla etc
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's Barry don't fall for it ffs
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is it? Mega fail.
I’ve not been reading so much lately, lost track of his username changes :D
Good one Barry, love ya
posted on 26/10/22
comment by FFS Mike. (U1170)
posted 20 seconds ago
They miss Ronaldo.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They know where he is.
posted on 26/10/22
comment by JonVeron (U6514)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
If it were to be grouped into tiers of elite clubs at the moment it would be
Tier A
Real Madrid
Bayern Munich
Man Utd
Barcelona
Liverpool
Chelsea
Man City
Arsenal
Tottenham
PSG
Tier B
Milan
Atletico
Juve
Ajax
Inter
Newcastle
Porto
Tier C
Napoli
Benfica
Leicester
Everton
Roma
West Ham
Sevilla
Lyon
Tier D
Wolves
Atalanta
Celtic
Aston Villa
Nottingham
Red Bull
Valencia
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’m not sure Newcastle are more elite than most of the teams you’ve got below them, tbh.., particularly Benfica Roma Napoli Sevilla etc
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They are the richest team in the world. They should arguably be in Tier A, certainly after this season. The top 2 tiers should realistically be the 20 PL teams plus Bayern and Real Madrid but the boomers would kick off when seeing the truth and suggest that some nobodies like Ajax should be in there.
posted on 26/10/22
Anyway, given time I think Allegri will turin it around at Juventus.
posted on 26/10/22
Nobodies like Ajax? You must be very young or have no idea of football history!
posted on 26/10/22
Comment deleted by Article Creator
posted on 26/10/22
comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 45 seconds ago
Anyway, given time I think Allegri will turin it around at Juventus.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Juve heard it here first.
posted on 26/10/22
comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 2 minutes ago
Nobodies like Ajax? You must be very young or have no idea of football history!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They play in a league where the standard is of League One in England. The top half of the Championship would beat them easily. I was going to put a few deserving Championship teams in there ahead of the likes of Ajax as they are basically PL teams every other year so are obviously bigger than a club from a joke league, but again yeah boomers kicking off as expected.
posted on 26/10/22
Juve are skint, they want to change manager but can't.
Also the Cuadrado incident which lead to a Benfica penalty was a joke, there is no chance that should have been given.
That a Chelsea flop now well into his 30s plays for Juve is a sign of how far they have fallen.
posted on 26/10/22
In the first place please explain the term "boomers" as the way it is used it sounds derogatory.
Secondly, Ajax were once the top team in Europe and had a not-too-bad guy playing for them called Johan Cruyff who at the time was acclaimed as the most skillful player in Europe and the first to execute what is now known as the "Cruyff Turn".
posted on 26/10/22
Watson putting Stewart in his place
posted on 26/10/22
Thank you bloodred. Kids nowadays eh?
posted on 26/10/22
Ajax are maybe about the level of Fulham. A PL yoyo team so essentially a top half Championship team, at best.
Fulham/Ajax combined XI:
-----------------Leno--------------
Robinson----Ream-----Timber----Reid
---------Paulinha-----------------Klaassen
Willian----------Pereira---------Tadic
----------------Mitrovic---------------
So only 3 Ajax players got into the Fulham/Ajax combined XI. Maybe I was giving Ajax more credit than they deserve.
posted on 26/10/22
comment by Rosso out here drippin’ in finesse (U17054)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
Barcelona are still competing for the title in their league. To be considered a truly elite team you cannot be languishing outside the top 4 in your league whilst also not competing in the CL. One or the other is fine as you put a big effort into a title race etc. At the moment Juve are not doing either. On second thoughts have added Chelsea as they now do it consistently.
Real Madrid
Bayern
Man Utd
Barcelona (debatable)
Chelsea (debatable)
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Barcelona are coming second in a two horse race. That’s last place “Stewart”.
Although Liverpool are coming eighth in their two horse race. Which is really minus 6th, behind six dead horses.
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Barrosso
posted on 26/10/22
For pure skill there is only one player who I would rate above Cruyff and to me remains the best ever. Any guesses?
posted on 26/10/22
comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 4 minutes ago
For pure skill there is only one player who I would rate above Cruyff and to me remains the best ever. Any guesses?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ronaldinho.
The most skilful there has been.
posted on 26/10/22
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 4 minutes ago
For pure skill there is only one player who I would rate above Cruyff and to me remains the best ever. Any guesses?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ronaldinho.
The most skilful there has been.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Think he means in an old timey sense like carrying a pint and a pie on the pitch whilst also playing football.
posted on 26/10/22
comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 4 minutes ago
For pure skill there is only one player who I would rate above Cruyff and to me remains the best ever. Any guesses?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ronaldinho.
The most skilful there has been.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Think he means in an old timey sense like carrying a pint and a pie on the pitch whilst also playing football.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don’t think he follows Scottish football.
posted on 26/10/22
They’re clearly missing Ronaldo eh process?
posted on 26/10/22
The most skilful I've seen was Dimitar, I love that name.
But the best player I've seen was George.
As Cruyf said 'You can't teach what Best has'
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