Only the very cautious worried about having any trouble with a mane less Senegal.
The world cup starts now for England.
The first 40 odd minutes was poor. The CBs kept giving the ball away, putting the team in trouble that Senegal should have punished. Saka and Foden were poor, the midfield wasn't dominating, Kane not really effective.
Once the first went in everything changed. Bellingham really took over the game. Senegal crumbled, and Kane became a real influence.
Shocked Kane played more than an hour with the game won, very risky from Southgate.
Well, it would be 3 good matches cos they smashed Iran and Wales as well...
Shocked Kane played more than an hour with the game won, very risky from Southgate
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As if Southgate has a say. Kane wants to play he plays.
Our CB's are so bad, they will eventually cost us.
We were lucky yesterday, Senegal are absolute rubbish.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 25 minutes ago
The first 40 odd minutes was poor. The CBs kept giving the ball away, putting the team in trouble that Senegal should have punished. Saka and Foden were poor, the midfield wasn't dominating, Kane not really effective.
Once the first went in everything changed. Bellingham really took over the game. Senegal crumbled, and Kane became a real influence.
Shocked Kane played more than an hour with the game won, very risky from Southgate.
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It's been a theme throughout this tournament that we have been poor whilst the game is 0-0. The promising thing is that we have been a lot better once we score. I'd like to see us come out hard in the first 30 against France but Southgate favours pragmatism so we will go out not to lose it in the first 30.
Senegal without 3 of there best players we all probably thought this was a foregone conclusion.
The Live thread was amusing. All the players who were getting abuse were either scoring or assisting
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 43 minutes ago
The first 40 odd minutes was poor. The CBs kept giving the ball away, putting the team in trouble that Senegal should have punished. Saka and Foden were poor, the midfield wasn't dominating, Kane not really effective.
Once the first went in everything changed. Bellingham really took over the game. Senegal crumbled, and Kane became a real influence.
Shocked Kane played more than an hour with the game won, very risky from Southgate.
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I think it showed a deficiency in Rice's game, rather than the defence who were repeatedly pressed and had no options. You watch other teams and the deepest midfielder collects the ball off them, turns, runs with it or and moves it forward.
People will grown but against France, Safegate will need to put somebody next to Rice I'd imagine.
That's because France have been able to back up beating the poorer sides by beating stronger ones too. England traditionally don't so can't be taken as seriously for beating sides like Senegal and Iran.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 43 minutes ago
The first 40 odd minutes was poor. The CBs kept giving the ball away, putting the team in trouble that Senegal should have punished. Saka and Foden were poor, the midfield wasn't dominating, Kane not really effective.
Once the first went in everything changed. Bellingham really took over the game. Senegal crumbled, and Kane became a real influence.
Shocked Kane played more than an hour with the game won, very risky from Southgate.
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I think it showed a deficiency in Rice's game, rather than the defence who were repeatedly pressed and had no options. You watch other teams and the deepest midfielder collects the ball off them, turns, runs with it or and moves it forward.
People will grown but against France, Safegate will need to put somebody next to Rice I'd imagine.
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groan*
I can't believe the stick Henderson gets,a certainty in our midfield for me.
Well played Jordan,and a great goal.
Only conceded 1 goal in open play in 4 games and people are moaning about the defence
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 5 seconds ago
Only conceded 1 goal in open play in 4 games and people are moaning about the defence
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Defence has done well although could have conceded more.
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 8 minutes ago
Only conceded 1 goal in open play in 4 games and people are moaning about the defence
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Iran, USA, Wales and Senegal are pretty shiiiite up front though.
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 12 minutes ago
Only conceded 1 goal in open play in 4 games and people are moaning about the defence
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It’s what moaners do
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 8 minutes ago
Only conceded 1 goal in open play in 4 games and people are moaning about the defence
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Iran, USA, Wales and Senegal are pretty shiiiite up front though.
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Denmark and Tunisia scored their only goals of the tournament against France, the Aussies managed to take the lead against them and Poland could have had 2 or 3 yesterday.
England will cause that France defence all sorts of problems, as much as they will do us as they are arguably worse than us in that position, although it’s fine margins. Lloris was awful against Poland in the first half whereas (touch wood) thus far Pickford has been immense.
If Walker can keep a lid on Mbappe then we have every chance as we match up quite well against them - Giroud isn’t going to have the aerial dominance he is used to with Slab head at the back.
Luke Shaw is a worry though, I can see Dembele powering past him again and again.
But then I suspect England will have a field day if Pavard starts for them.
Can’t wait
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 43 minutes ago
The first 40 odd minutes was poor. The CBs kept giving the ball away, putting the team in trouble that Senegal should have punished. Saka and Foden were poor, the midfield wasn't dominating, Kane not really effective.
Once the first went in everything changed. Bellingham really took over the game. Senegal crumbled, and Kane became a real influence.
Shocked Kane played more than an hour with the game won, very risky from Southgate.
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I think it showed a deficiency in Rice's game, rather than the defence who were repeatedly pressed and had no options. You watch other teams and the deepest midfielder collects the ball off them, turns, runs with it or and moves it forward.
People will grown but against France, Safegate will need to put somebody next to Rice I'd imagine.
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Agree the midfield was a bigger issue than the defence
However, Senegal's 2 strikers marked Rice tightly, giving no space for the pass through to him
Henderson was too far forward when the CBs had the ball and should have helped in the build up
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 8 minutes ago
Only conceded 1 goal in open play in 4 games and people are moaning about the defence
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Iran, USA, Wales and Senegal are pretty shiiiite up front though.
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Hi dj
comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 43 minutes ago
The first 40 odd minutes was poor. The CBs kept giving the ball away, putting the team in trouble that Senegal should have punished. Saka and Foden were poor, the midfield wasn't dominating, Kane not really effective.
Once the first went in everything changed. Bellingham really took over the game. Senegal crumbled, and Kane became a real influence.
Shocked Kane played more than an hour with the game won, very risky from Southgate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think it showed a deficiency in Rice's game, rather than the defence who were repeatedly pressed and had no options. You watch other teams and the deepest midfielder collects the ball off them, turns, runs with it or and moves it forward.
People will grown but against France, Safegate will need to put somebody next to Rice I'd imagine.
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Agree the midfield was a bigger issue than the defence
However, Senegal's 2 strikers marked Rice tightly, giving no space for the pass through to him
Henderson was too far forward when the CBs had the ball and should have helped in the build up
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Henderson was clearly given instructions to play wide in midfield. He never does this for Liverpool, at least not any more. Although as I said, I think he'll have one sitting with Rice against France, which will likely be Henderson.
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posted on 5/12/22
Only the very cautious worried about having any trouble with a mane less Senegal.
The world cup starts now for England.
posted on 5/12/22
The first 40 odd minutes was poor. The CBs kept giving the ball away, putting the team in trouble that Senegal should have punished. Saka and Foden were poor, the midfield wasn't dominating, Kane not really effective.
Once the first went in everything changed. Bellingham really took over the game. Senegal crumbled, and Kane became a real influence.
Shocked Kane played more than an hour with the game won, very risky from Southgate.
posted on 5/12/22
One good match
posted on 5/12/22
Well, it would be 3 good matches cos they smashed Iran and Wales as well...
posted on 5/12/22
Shocked Kane played more than an hour with the game won, very risky from Southgate
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As if Southgate has a say. Kane wants to play he plays.
posted on 5/12/22
Our CB's are so bad, they will eventually cost us.
We were lucky yesterday, Senegal are absolute rubbish.
posted on 5/12/22
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 25 minutes ago
The first 40 odd minutes was poor. The CBs kept giving the ball away, putting the team in trouble that Senegal should have punished. Saka and Foden were poor, the midfield wasn't dominating, Kane not really effective.
Once the first went in everything changed. Bellingham really took over the game. Senegal crumbled, and Kane became a real influence.
Shocked Kane played more than an hour with the game won, very risky from Southgate.
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It's been a theme throughout this tournament that we have been poor whilst the game is 0-0. The promising thing is that we have been a lot better once we score. I'd like to see us come out hard in the first 30 against France but Southgate favours pragmatism so we will go out not to lose it in the first 30.
posted on 5/12/22
Senegal without 3 of there best players we all probably thought this was a foregone conclusion.
The Live thread was amusing. All the players who were getting abuse were either scoring or assisting
posted on 5/12/22
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 43 minutes ago
The first 40 odd minutes was poor. The CBs kept giving the ball away, putting the team in trouble that Senegal should have punished. Saka and Foden were poor, the midfield wasn't dominating, Kane not really effective.
Once the first went in everything changed. Bellingham really took over the game. Senegal crumbled, and Kane became a real influence.
Shocked Kane played more than an hour with the game won, very risky from Southgate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think it showed a deficiency in Rice's game, rather than the defence who were repeatedly pressed and had no options. You watch other teams and the deepest midfielder collects the ball off them, turns, runs with it or and moves it forward.
People will grown but against France, Safegate will need to put somebody next to Rice I'd imagine.
posted on 5/12/22
That's because France have been able to back up beating the poorer sides by beating stronger ones too. England traditionally don't so can't be taken as seriously for beating sides like Senegal and Iran.
posted on 5/12/22
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 43 minutes ago
The first 40 odd minutes was poor. The CBs kept giving the ball away, putting the team in trouble that Senegal should have punished. Saka and Foden were poor, the midfield wasn't dominating, Kane not really effective.
Once the first went in everything changed. Bellingham really took over the game. Senegal crumbled, and Kane became a real influence.
Shocked Kane played more than an hour with the game won, very risky from Southgate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think it showed a deficiency in Rice's game, rather than the defence who were repeatedly pressed and had no options. You watch other teams and the deepest midfielder collects the ball off them, turns, runs with it or and moves it forward.
People will grown but against France, Safegate will need to put somebody next to Rice I'd imagine.
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groan*
posted on 5/12/22
I can't believe the stick Henderson gets,a certainty in our midfield for me.
Well played Jordan,and a great goal.
posted on 5/12/22
Only conceded 1 goal in open play in 4 games and people are moaning about the defence
posted on 5/12/22
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 5 seconds ago
Only conceded 1 goal in open play in 4 games and people are moaning about the defence
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Defence has done well although could have conceded more.
posted on 5/12/22
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 8 minutes ago
Only conceded 1 goal in open play in 4 games and people are moaning about the defence
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Iran, USA, Wales and Senegal are pretty shiiiite up front though.
posted on 5/12/22
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 12 minutes ago
Only conceded 1 goal in open play in 4 games and people are moaning about the defence
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It’s what moaners do
posted on 5/12/22
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 8 minutes ago
Only conceded 1 goal in open play in 4 games and people are moaning about the defence
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Iran, USA, Wales and Senegal are pretty shiiiite up front though.
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Denmark and Tunisia scored their only goals of the tournament against France, the Aussies managed to take the lead against them and Poland could have had 2 or 3 yesterday.
England will cause that France defence all sorts of problems, as much as they will do us as they are arguably worse than us in that position, although it’s fine margins. Lloris was awful against Poland in the first half whereas (touch wood) thus far Pickford has been immense.
If Walker can keep a lid on Mbappe then we have every chance as we match up quite well against them - Giroud isn’t going to have the aerial dominance he is used to with Slab head at the back.
Luke Shaw is a worry though, I can see Dembele powering past him again and again.
But then I suspect England will have a field day if Pavard starts for them.
Can’t wait
posted on 5/12/22
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 43 minutes ago
The first 40 odd minutes was poor. The CBs kept giving the ball away, putting the team in trouble that Senegal should have punished. Saka and Foden were poor, the midfield wasn't dominating, Kane not really effective.
Once the first went in everything changed. Bellingham really took over the game. Senegal crumbled, and Kane became a real influence.
Shocked Kane played more than an hour with the game won, very risky from Southgate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think it showed a deficiency in Rice's game, rather than the defence who were repeatedly pressed and had no options. You watch other teams and the deepest midfielder collects the ball off them, turns, runs with it or and moves it forward.
People will grown but against France, Safegate will need to put somebody next to Rice I'd imagine.
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Agree the midfield was a bigger issue than the defence
However, Senegal's 2 strikers marked Rice tightly, giving no space for the pass through to him
Henderson was too far forward when the CBs had the ball and should have helped in the build up
posted on 5/12/22
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 8 minutes ago
Only conceded 1 goal in open play in 4 games and people are moaning about the defence
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Iran, USA, Wales and Senegal are pretty shiiiite up front though.
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Hi dj
posted on 5/12/22
comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 43 minutes ago
The first 40 odd minutes was poor. The CBs kept giving the ball away, putting the team in trouble that Senegal should have punished. Saka and Foden were poor, the midfield wasn't dominating, Kane not really effective.
Once the first went in everything changed. Bellingham really took over the game. Senegal crumbled, and Kane became a real influence.
Shocked Kane played more than an hour with the game won, very risky from Southgate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think it showed a deficiency in Rice's game, rather than the defence who were repeatedly pressed and had no options. You watch other teams and the deepest midfielder collects the ball off them, turns, runs with it or and moves it forward.
People will grown but against France, Safegate will need to put somebody next to Rice I'd imagine.
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Agree the midfield was a bigger issue than the defence
However, Senegal's 2 strikers marked Rice tightly, giving no space for the pass through to him
Henderson was too far forward when the CBs had the ball and should have helped in the build up
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Henderson was clearly given instructions to play wide in midfield. He never does this for Liverpool, at least not any more. Although as I said, I think he'll have one sitting with Rice against France, which will likely be Henderson.
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