Mudryk can play.... those who are not aware will find out.
powerful, lightning quick, can finish, work rate could be better. Custom built for EPL.
Too much of a risk with Toney with a potential very long ban incoming
Should have added the con that Toney seems to have beef with a few Arsenal players, Gabriel being one.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 5 minutes ago
Should have added the con that Toney seems to have beef with a few Arsenal players, Gabriel being one.
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That's just normal club rivalry, I doubt there's much in it tbh. Gabriel even responded when Auba said something
However interesting you didn't mention Vlahovic or mitrovic as I don't think they would get along with Xhaka either.
No rumours linking us with either Vlahovic or Mitrovic as far as I can see.
João Felix would be perfect for Arsenal. He fits the profile of a modern Arsenal forward:
Good movement
Excellent in possession
Good feet, tricky
Tidy and creative passer
Links up well
Doesn’t defend
Doesn’t score goals
Got a couple of cheeky ones in at the end Rosso pal
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
Got a couple of cheeky ones in at the end Rosso pal
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Am I wrong?
United top scorer has 4 goals, and the team has 20 between them
Arsenal have 33 goals and 4 players with 4 or more.
And Arsenal have conceded 9 less and have the best defence in the league
Not bad for a team with forwards who can't score and don't defend...
Lacazette
Pepe
Mkhitaryan
Iwobi
Ox
Walcott
Giroud
Welbeck
A few of them defended, but all I’m doing is repeating what Arsenal fans have been banging on about on a daily basis on here since the later stages of the Wenger days. And if memory serves, the only Arsenal player to rack up even close to 20 league goals in recent years was Aubameyang.
And I don’t know what United have to do with it
Quite a few midfielders in there mate. Lacs, Giroud and Welbeck the only strikers you've named
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 40 minutes ago
Quite a few midfielders in there mate. Lacs, Giroud and Welbeck the only strikers you've named
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Are we going to pretend that with the exception of (part of) Auba’s spell, Arsenal fans haven’t been bemoaning the lack of and screaming for a 20 goal forward since Van Persie left?
Alexis Sanchez was pretty good for us.
It's a weird thing you've chosen to wum with mate I'll be honest.
comment by King TUt (U3732)
posted 40 minutes ago
Alexis Sanchez was pretty good for us.
It's a weird thing you've chosen to wum with mate I'll be honest.
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I’m not wumming at all. That isn’t my bag mate, honestly.
If I’m not very much mistaken, when the Jesus rumours started in the summer, the only real concern from Arsenal posters on here was whether he was prolific enough or whether you were signing another 10-15 goal forward.
The last decade or so City went from Tevez to Aguero to Haaland, with Stirling also banging in 18 or so goals the odd season. Liverpool have had Mane and Salah, and before that Suarez and Sturridge. For all of their (myriad) problems, United have had Ronaldo, Bruno, Lukaku and Ibra all hitting 17+ league goals, supported by returns from Rashford and Martial, since Van Persie. Spurs have had Kane banging them in for nigh on a decade, supported by Son, and before that big seasons from Bale and Adebayor.
In that time I think Arsenal have had two 18+ goal seasons from Aubameyang and one from Sanchez. Did Lacazette or Giroud ever hit even 15 in a league campaign?
Barring the odd season from Costa and Hazard, Chelsea have had similar problems in front of goal, albeit ultimately for different reasons (they’ve signed/promoted a bunch of donkeys, rather than signing quality players who just haven’t come up with the goods or just aren’t natural goalscorers).
Look; I’m not even arguing it’s necessarily a massive issue. Look at City last season. If you can squeeze enough goals out of your midfield and elsewhere to support the front line, you can be (more than) fine.
Just pointing out, again, as I’ve read plethora Arsenal fans on here do, that there have been long periods in which you’ve been short of a top drawer, out-and-out goalscoring machine, and had your front four largely filled by talented players who can link and create but just aren’t deadly goalscorers.
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 5 minutes ago
I ain't reading all that
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The best teams share their goals around. That way you don't have a situation where Arsenal lost the league to Leicester City because Giroud went through a goal drought. Arsenal fans were complaining about our low xG under Arteta, which he rectified by a change of formation and a more defined style midway through last season.
So no, Arsenal don't need a selfish striker to compete for the top trophies. We do need to continue creating though and scoring goals from different areas of the pitch. Jesus is a loss and we will need to bring in the right type of player to replace him.
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
The best teams share their goals around. That way you don't have a situation where Arsenal lost the league to Leicester City because Giroud went through a goal drought. Arsenal fans were complaining about our low xG under Arteta, which he rectified by a change of formation and a more defined style midway through last season.
So no, Arsenal don't need a selfish striker to compete for the top trophies. We do need to continue creating though and scoring goals from different areas of the pitch. Jesus is a loss and we will need to bring in the right type of player to replace him.
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It isn’t about being selfish. The likes of Aguero, Tevez, Salah and Kane weren’t/aren’t selfish players. They were/are just natural goalscorers.
As I’ve said, it isn’t necessarily any kind of problem. I wasn’t suggesting it was. Just pointing out that that Aubameyang aside, it’s something even Arsenal fans have been pointing out Arsenal just haven’t had in their squad.
Fwiw, I said in the summer, and still think, that Jesus can be that 20+ goal player for Arsenal if he can get and stay fit.
comment by Prof Rosso Curtice - mapping SOTY polling trends in real time (U17054)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
The best teams share their goals around. That way you don't have a situation where Arsenal lost the league to Leicester City because Giroud went through a goal drought. Arsenal fans were complaining about our low xG under Arteta, which he rectified by a change of formation and a more defined style midway through last season.
So no, Arsenal don't need a selfish striker to compete for the top trophies. We do need to continue creating though and scoring goals from different areas of the pitch. Jesus is a loss and we will need to bring in the right type of player to replace him.
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It isn’t about being selfish. The likes of Aguero, Tevez, Salah and Kane weren’t/aren’t selfish players. They were/are just natural goalscorers.
As I’ve said, it isn’t necessarily any kind of problem. I wasn’t suggesting it was. Just pointing out that that Aubameyang aside, it’s something even Arsenal fans have been pointing out Arsenal just haven’t had in their squad.
Fwiw, I said in the summer, and still think, that Jesus can be that 20+ goal player for Arsenal if he can get and stay fit.
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My point is you don't need a 20+ goal striker to be successful. In fact I feel concentrating goal scoring on one player often makes teams uncompetitive. I'd argue Liverpool and Salah are less competitive because they lack the dual threat of Mane. So on. It doesn't matter to us if Jesus is not scoring 20+ goals as long he is contributing to others scoring and we are winning as a result.
And that impacts on who we target in Jan. I am not bothered if don't get an out and out goal scorer as long as he can do the role that Jesus was doing. Zaha or Gakpo for example could be just as effective as Vlahovic.
It actually makes replacing Jesus easier. And maybe even Eddie can do a job until we get our target in Jan.
“My point is you don't need a 20+ goal striker to be successful.”
I’m glad we agree. I have also made that point (twice) above.
I think some pundits take the easy way out to be critical by saying that Arsenal won't win the league or whatever because we lack a 20+ goal scorer. They then don't have to do the work to analyse why Arsenal have been underperforming for so many years. Sometimes its beyond their capability. That can stick with the casual fan as being our problem. You'll find most of them will not be able to explain why Arteta has turned it around from last year.
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posted on 12/12/22
Who?
posted on 12/12/22
Lassina Traore...
posted on 12/12/22
Mudryk can play.... those who are not aware will find out.
powerful, lightning quick, can finish, work rate could be better. Custom built for EPL.
posted on 12/12/22
Too much of a risk with Toney with a potential very long ban incoming
posted on 12/12/22
Should have added the con that Toney seems to have beef with a few Arsenal players, Gabriel being one.
posted on 12/12/22
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 5 minutes ago
Should have added the con that Toney seems to have beef with a few Arsenal players, Gabriel being one.
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That's just normal club rivalry, I doubt there's much in it tbh. Gabriel even responded when Auba said something
However interesting you didn't mention Vlahovic or mitrovic as I don't think they would get along with Xhaka either.
posted on 12/12/22
No rumours linking us with either Vlahovic or Mitrovic as far as I can see.
posted on 12/12/22
João Felix would be perfect for Arsenal. He fits the profile of a modern Arsenal forward:
Good movement
Excellent in possession
Good feet, tricky
Tidy and creative passer
Links up well
Doesn’t defend
Doesn’t score goals
posted on 12/12/22
Got a couple of cheeky ones in at the end Rosso pal
posted on 12/12/22
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
Got a couple of cheeky ones in at the end Rosso pal
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Am I wrong?
posted on 12/12/22
Yes
posted on 12/12/22
United top scorer has 4 goals, and the team has 20 between them
Arsenal have 33 goals and 4 players with 4 or more.
And Arsenal have conceded 9 less and have the best defence in the league
Not bad for a team with forwards who can't score and don't defend...
posted on 12/12/22
Lacazette
Pepe
Mkhitaryan
Iwobi
Ox
Walcott
Giroud
Welbeck
A few of them defended, but all I’m doing is repeating what Arsenal fans have been banging on about on a daily basis on here since the later stages of the Wenger days. And if memory serves, the only Arsenal player to rack up even close to 20 league goals in recent years was Aubameyang.
And I don’t know what United have to do with it
posted on 12/12/22
Quite a few midfielders in there mate. Lacs, Giroud and Welbeck the only strikers you've named
posted on 12/12/22
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 40 minutes ago
Quite a few midfielders in there mate. Lacs, Giroud and Welbeck the only strikers you've named
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Are we going to pretend that with the exception of (part of) Auba’s spell, Arsenal fans haven’t been bemoaning the lack of and screaming for a 20 goal forward since Van Persie left?
posted on 13/12/22
Alexis Sanchez was pretty good for us.
It's a weird thing you've chosen to wum with mate I'll be honest.
posted on 13/12/22
comment by King TUt (U3732)
posted 40 minutes ago
Alexis Sanchez was pretty good for us.
It's a weird thing you've chosen to wum with mate I'll be honest.
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I’m not wumming at all. That isn’t my bag mate, honestly.
If I’m not very much mistaken, when the Jesus rumours started in the summer, the only real concern from Arsenal posters on here was whether he was prolific enough or whether you were signing another 10-15 goal forward.
The last decade or so City went from Tevez to Aguero to Haaland, with Stirling also banging in 18 or so goals the odd season. Liverpool have had Mane and Salah, and before that Suarez and Sturridge. For all of their (myriad) problems, United have had Ronaldo, Bruno, Lukaku and Ibra all hitting 17+ league goals, supported by returns from Rashford and Martial, since Van Persie. Spurs have had Kane banging them in for nigh on a decade, supported by Son, and before that big seasons from Bale and Adebayor.
In that time I think Arsenal have had two 18+ goal seasons from Aubameyang and one from Sanchez. Did Lacazette or Giroud ever hit even 15 in a league campaign?
Barring the odd season from Costa and Hazard, Chelsea have had similar problems in front of goal, albeit ultimately for different reasons (they’ve signed/promoted a bunch of donkeys, rather than signing quality players who just haven’t come up with the goods or just aren’t natural goalscorers).
Look; I’m not even arguing it’s necessarily a massive issue. Look at City last season. If you can squeeze enough goals out of your midfield and elsewhere to support the front line, you can be (more than) fine.
Just pointing out, again, as I’ve read plethora Arsenal fans on here do, that there have been long periods in which you’ve been short of a top drawer, out-and-out goalscoring machine, and had your front four largely filled by talented players who can link and create but just aren’t deadly goalscorers.
posted on 13/12/22
I ain't reading all that
posted on 13/12/22
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 5 minutes ago
I ain't reading all that
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posted on 13/12/22
The best teams share their goals around. That way you don't have a situation where Arsenal lost the league to Leicester City because Giroud went through a goal drought. Arsenal fans were complaining about our low xG under Arteta, which he rectified by a change of formation and a more defined style midway through last season.
So no, Arsenal don't need a selfish striker to compete for the top trophies. We do need to continue creating though and scoring goals from different areas of the pitch. Jesus is a loss and we will need to bring in the right type of player to replace him.
posted on 13/12/22
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
The best teams share their goals around. That way you don't have a situation where Arsenal lost the league to Leicester City because Giroud went through a goal drought. Arsenal fans were complaining about our low xG under Arteta, which he rectified by a change of formation and a more defined style midway through last season.
So no, Arsenal don't need a selfish striker to compete for the top trophies. We do need to continue creating though and scoring goals from different areas of the pitch. Jesus is a loss and we will need to bring in the right type of player to replace him.
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It isn’t about being selfish. The likes of Aguero, Tevez, Salah and Kane weren’t/aren’t selfish players. They were/are just natural goalscorers.
As I’ve said, it isn’t necessarily any kind of problem. I wasn’t suggesting it was. Just pointing out that that Aubameyang aside, it’s something even Arsenal fans have been pointing out Arsenal just haven’t had in their squad.
Fwiw, I said in the summer, and still think, that Jesus can be that 20+ goal player for Arsenal if he can get and stay fit.
posted on 13/12/22
comment by Prof Rosso Curtice - mapping SOTY polling trends in real time (U17054)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
The best teams share their goals around. That way you don't have a situation where Arsenal lost the league to Leicester City because Giroud went through a goal drought. Arsenal fans were complaining about our low xG under Arteta, which he rectified by a change of formation and a more defined style midway through last season.
So no, Arsenal don't need a selfish striker to compete for the top trophies. We do need to continue creating though and scoring goals from different areas of the pitch. Jesus is a loss and we will need to bring in the right type of player to replace him.
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It isn’t about being selfish. The likes of Aguero, Tevez, Salah and Kane weren’t/aren’t selfish players. They were/are just natural goalscorers.
As I’ve said, it isn’t necessarily any kind of problem. I wasn’t suggesting it was. Just pointing out that that Aubameyang aside, it’s something even Arsenal fans have been pointing out Arsenal just haven’t had in their squad.
Fwiw, I said in the summer, and still think, that Jesus can be that 20+ goal player for Arsenal if he can get and stay fit.
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My point is you don't need a 20+ goal striker to be successful. In fact I feel concentrating goal scoring on one player often makes teams uncompetitive. I'd argue Liverpool and Salah are less competitive because they lack the dual threat of Mane. So on. It doesn't matter to us if Jesus is not scoring 20+ goals as long he is contributing to others scoring and we are winning as a result.
And that impacts on who we target in Jan. I am not bothered if don't get an out and out goal scorer as long as he can do the role that Jesus was doing. Zaha or Gakpo for example could be just as effective as Vlahovic.
posted on 13/12/22
It actually makes replacing Jesus easier. And maybe even Eddie can do a job until we get our target in Jan.
posted on 13/12/22
“My point is you don't need a 20+ goal striker to be successful.”
I’m glad we agree. I have also made that point (twice) above.
posted on 13/12/22
I think some pundits take the easy way out to be critical by saying that Arsenal won't win the league or whatever because we lack a 20+ goal scorer. They then don't have to do the work to analyse why Arsenal have been underperforming for so many years. Sometimes its beyond their capability. That can stick with the casual fan as being our problem. You'll find most of them will not be able to explain why Arteta has turned it around from last year.
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