Making it easy for the opposition is the problem. Conceding five one on one chances a game is the problem. Not making space for the wide players by contesting the pitch is the problem.
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But all these problems could all emanate from the midfield problem. A problem in midfield could lead to all of those things, and also have an impact on how the whole team plays.
comment by No Love. (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Making it easy for the opposition is the problem. Conceding five one on one chances a game is the problem. Not making space for the wide players by contesting the pitch is the problem.
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But all these problems could all emanate from the midfield problem. A problem in midfield could lead to all of those things, and also have an impact on how the whole team plays.
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No, they can't. The midfield are not on the half way line meaning one ball around them or over them produces several one on one chances a game. The midfield are not on the half way line, they are up congesting the pitch because the defence are on the half way line. It's so bad at times that our centre backs are our playmakers breaking from the half way line trying to play the killer ball. The midfield are not causing the wide players to have no space as that area of the pitch is congested, again that's because as a system we've congested the pitch into one half, which means teams sit back with nine behind the ball and once they gain possession the play over or around our midfield and defence into quick attackers.
Individuals in midfield are not the problem. The team lack balance as a system. When we are not playing well the opposition seek to exploit this even more as they are not as afraid to do it.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 6 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by No Love. (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Making it easy for the opposition is the problem. Conceding five one on one chances a game is the problem. Not making space for the wide players by contesting the pitch is the problem.
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But all these problems could all emanate from the midfield problem. A problem in midfield could lead to all of those things, and also have an impact on how the whole team plays.
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No, they can't. The midfield are not on the half way line meaning one ball around them or over them produces several one on one chances a game. The midfield are not on the half way line, they are up congesting the pitch because the defence are on the half way line. It's so bad at times that our centre backs are our playmakers breaking from the half way line trying to play the killer ball. The midfield are not causing the wide players to have no space as that area of the pitch is congested, again that's because as a system we've congested the pitch into one half, which means teams sit back with nine behind the ball and once they gain possession the play over or around our midfield and defence into quick attackers.
Individuals in midfield are not the problem. The team lack balance as a system. When we are not playing well the opposition seek to exploit this even more as they are not as afraid to do it.
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We are playing the same system we always played and before this season it worked very well, no? Unless you're suggesting that we've changed the system this season?
comment by No Love. (U1282)
posted 59 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 6 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by No Love. (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Making it easy for the opposition is the problem. Conceding five one on one chances a game is the problem. Not making space for the wide players by contesting the pitch is the problem.
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But all these problems could all emanate from the midfield problem. A problem in midfield could lead to all of those things, and also have an impact on how the whole team plays.
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No, they can't. The midfield are not on the half way line meaning one ball around them or over them produces several one on one chances a game. The midfield are not on the half way line, they are up congesting the pitch because the defence are on the half way line. It's so bad at times that our centre backs are our playmakers breaking from the half way line trying to play the killer ball. The midfield are not causing the wide players to have no space as that area of the pitch is congested, again that's because as a system we've congested the pitch into one half, which means teams sit back with nine behind the ball and once they gain possession the play over or around our midfield and defence into quick attackers.
Individuals in midfield are not the problem. The team lack balance as a system. When we are not playing well the opposition seek to exploit this even more as they are not as afraid to do it.
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We are playing the same system we always played and before this season it worked very well, no? Unless you're suggesting that we've changed the system this season?
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We aren't. We have slowly transitioned towards a City style game, away from high intensity, quick attacks towards dominating the ball and passing it around until an opening is found. Of course buying new players to fit this system can work but also going back to what worked best for the players we have can also work. Injuries don't help of course but we're not getting any less injuries now than we were with the high intensity games and quick powerful attacks. Teams know what to do against the high line now and the final straw was when Brentford stuck two players up top to do just that.
Yeah but only 6 months ago we finished the season strongly winning nearly every game. I agree we have transitioned as you say, but it still worked well even as we transitioned. This season we've just fallen off a cliff and I feel there's something else in addition to what you're saying.
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posted on 6/1/23
Making it easy for the opposition is the problem. Conceding five one on one chances a game is the problem. Not making space for the wide players by contesting the pitch is the problem.
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But all these problems could all emanate from the midfield problem. A problem in midfield could lead to all of those things, and also have an impact on how the whole team plays.
posted on 6/1/23
comment by No Love. (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Making it easy for the opposition is the problem. Conceding five one on one chances a game is the problem. Not making space for the wide players by contesting the pitch is the problem.
----
But all these problems could all emanate from the midfield problem. A problem in midfield could lead to all of those things, and also have an impact on how the whole team plays.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, they can't. The midfield are not on the half way line meaning one ball around them or over them produces several one on one chances a game. The midfield are not on the half way line, they are up congesting the pitch because the defence are on the half way line. It's so bad at times that our centre backs are our playmakers breaking from the half way line trying to play the killer ball. The midfield are not causing the wide players to have no space as that area of the pitch is congested, again that's because as a system we've congested the pitch into one half, which means teams sit back with nine behind the ball and once they gain possession the play over or around our midfield and defence into quick attackers.
Individuals in midfield are not the problem. The team lack balance as a system. When we are not playing well the opposition seek to exploit this even more as they are not as afraid to do it.
posted on 6/1/23
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 6 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by No Love. (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Making it easy for the opposition is the problem. Conceding five one on one chances a game is the problem. Not making space for the wide players by contesting the pitch is the problem.
----
But all these problems could all emanate from the midfield problem. A problem in midfield could lead to all of those things, and also have an impact on how the whole team plays.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, they can't. The midfield are not on the half way line meaning one ball around them or over them produces several one on one chances a game. The midfield are not on the half way line, they are up congesting the pitch because the defence are on the half way line. It's so bad at times that our centre backs are our playmakers breaking from the half way line trying to play the killer ball. The midfield are not causing the wide players to have no space as that area of the pitch is congested, again that's because as a system we've congested the pitch into one half, which means teams sit back with nine behind the ball and once they gain possession the play over or around our midfield and defence into quick attackers.
Individuals in midfield are not the problem. The team lack balance as a system. When we are not playing well the opposition seek to exploit this even more as they are not as afraid to do it.
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We are playing the same system we always played and before this season it worked very well, no? Unless you're suggesting that we've changed the system this season?
posted on 6/1/23
comment by No Love. (U1282)
posted 59 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 6 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by No Love. (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Making it easy for the opposition is the problem. Conceding five one on one chances a game is the problem. Not making space for the wide players by contesting the pitch is the problem.
----
But all these problems could all emanate from the midfield problem. A problem in midfield could lead to all of those things, and also have an impact on how the whole team plays.
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No, they can't. The midfield are not on the half way line meaning one ball around them or over them produces several one on one chances a game. The midfield are not on the half way line, they are up congesting the pitch because the defence are on the half way line. It's so bad at times that our centre backs are our playmakers breaking from the half way line trying to play the killer ball. The midfield are not causing the wide players to have no space as that area of the pitch is congested, again that's because as a system we've congested the pitch into one half, which means teams sit back with nine behind the ball and once they gain possession the play over or around our midfield and defence into quick attackers.
Individuals in midfield are not the problem. The team lack balance as a system. When we are not playing well the opposition seek to exploit this even more as they are not as afraid to do it.
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We are playing the same system we always played and before this season it worked very well, no? Unless you're suggesting that we've changed the system this season?
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We aren't. We have slowly transitioned towards a City style game, away from high intensity, quick attacks towards dominating the ball and passing it around until an opening is found. Of course buying new players to fit this system can work but also going back to what worked best for the players we have can also work. Injuries don't help of course but we're not getting any less injuries now than we were with the high intensity games and quick powerful attacks. Teams know what to do against the high line now and the final straw was when Brentford stuck two players up top to do just that.
posted on 7/1/23
Yeah but only 6 months ago we finished the season strongly winning nearly every game. I agree we have transitioned as you say, but it still worked well even as we transitioned. This season we've just fallen off a cliff and I feel there's something else in addition to what you're saying.
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