comment by The Saint (U22900)
posted 2 minutes ago
u do realise that been given a penalty doesnt automatically mean a it gets scored or b it affects the final outcome of the match

butterfly effect
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If it’s a penalty for a perceived handball against Everton then it counts as a goal

comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 7 hours, 1 minute ago
During my lifetime United have never won a league title without loads of help from dodgy / corrupt refereeing.

Must be awful for United fans to see a more balanced job by refs nowadays.
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👍 at one point nicked named Penunited

comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Blue_mooning (U12093)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf---A Scottish world champion and Messi the goat. (U11551)
posted 4 hours, 9 minutes ago
literally days after a farcical goal beats man city. The audacity of these cants
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City could of had 2 pens in that game aswel.
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Well they could have done but going by that logic, United could have had 5 if we're just giving penalties based on fans wanting them to be given, rather than due to actual offences taking place
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What a deluded response. If the cancelo and haaland ones are given there isn't outrage. There is an argument for both being given. Just like last night's if its given no one is complaining.

Over the last 15 years, United have had 12 penalties given during Manchester league Derbies. City have been awarded 1.

Man Utd are not the only team on the receiving end if bad decisions.
Arsenal should have had at least one penalty vs Newcastle. Wolves goal at Anfield in the FA cup should have stood. Rashford v City etc etc.

VAR will end up being sued if it costs their team relegatio or a place in Europe

comment by Fik Tossa (U22768)
posted 24 seconds ago
Man Utd are not the only team on the receiving end if bad decisions.
Arsenal should have had at least one penalty vs Newcastle. Wolves goal at Anfield in the FA cup should have stood. Rashford v City etc etc.

VAR will end up being sued if it costs their team relegatio or a place in Europe
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You're right. It should be Howard Webb they go after though. He's come in and got us back to where we were a year or two ago. Where it's obvious a decision is incorrect but Webb doesn't want it to be implied that the ref has made a mistake and therefore sets a ridiculously high bar for what is "clear and obvious."

For the record, if you can see after one or two replays that the onfield decision is wrong and that objectively a foul or indiscretion has taken place, that is clear and obvious in my book. But heaven forbid they contradict the hapless onfield official.

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 13 minutes ago
Over the last 15 years, United have had 12 penalties given during Manchester league Derbies. City have been awarded 1.
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Dirtbags!

comment by Blue_mooning (U12093)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Blue_mooning (U12093)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf---A Scottish world champion and Messi the goat. (U11551)
posted 4 hours, 9 minutes ago
literally days after a farcical goal beats man city. The audacity of these cants
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City could of had 2 pens in that game aswel.
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Well they could have done but going by that logic, United could have had 5 if we're just giving penalties based on fans wanting them to be given, rather than due to actual offences taking place
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What a deluded response. If the cancelo and haaland ones are given there isn't outrage. There is an argument for both being given. Just like last night's if its given no one is complaining.
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No there isn't you moron. They even highlighted them on MoTD and said there was no way they were pens. Because they weren't. Can't even remember the Cancelo one but Casemeiro got the ball and Haaland threw himself down. There would have been an argument with that one as it wasn't a foul

Man Utd have won 1 penalty all season and that was late on against Man City away.😂 Many stonewall pens ignored.

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Absolutely if we’d been awarded the 105 pens we should have been due we’d have won the league already. Should have had atleast 4 pens per game so far. It’s why we are interested in Kane, both because his diving skills could win us these, but also that’s how he scores.

Dear posters on this thread replying to Hafi.

None of us take him seriously.

Very entertaining read Hafi

5

Hafi is the new David Meek

Ref bias or not, United won't win the PL for a very long time.

comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
posted 2 days, 2 hours ago
comment by Blue_mooning (U12093)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Blue_mooning (U12093)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf---A Scottish world champion and Messi the goat. (U11551)
posted 4 hours, 9 minutes ago
literally days after a farcical goal beats man city. The audacity of these cants
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City could of had 2 pens in that game aswel.
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Well they could have done but going by that logic, United could have had 5 if we're just giving penalties based on fans wanting them to be given, rather than due to actual offences taking place
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What a deluded response. If the cancelo and haaland ones are given there isn't outrage. There is an argument for both being given. Just like last night's if its given no one is complaining.
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No there isn't you moron. They even highlighted them on MoTD and said there was no way they were pens. Because they weren't. Can't even remember the Cancelo one but Casemeiro got the ball and Haaland threw himself down. There would have been an argument with that one as it wasn't a foul
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Casemiro didnt kick the ball there is a clear angle that shows he doesnt reach it and its haaland that touches it. Took a risk Casemiro putting his foot in the way of a swinging leg and didnt get the ball. Got away with it though.

can i have a moan about the ref robbing us of points and probay premier league survival today

comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 2 days, 6 hours ago
Ref bias or not, United won't win the PL for a very long time.
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How long is very long, out of curiosity?

comment by Blue_mooning (U12093)
posted 12 hours, 50 minutes ago
comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
posted 2 days, 2 hours ago
comment by Blue_mooning (U12093)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Blue_mooning (U12093)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf---A Scottish world champion and Messi the goat. (U11551)
posted 4 hours, 9 minutes ago
literally days after a farcical goal beats man city. The audacity of these cants
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City could of had 2 pens in that game aswel.
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Well they could have done but going by that logic, United could have had 5 if we're just giving penalties based on fans wanting them to be given, rather than due to actual offences taking place
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What a deluded response. If the cancelo and haaland ones are given there isn't outrage. There is an argument for both being given. Just like last night's if its given no one is complaining.
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No there isn't you moron. They even highlighted them on MoTD and said there was no way they were pens. Because they weren't. Can't even remember the Cancelo one but Casemeiro got the ball and Haaland threw himself down. There would have been an argument with that one as it wasn't a foul
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Casemiro didnt kick the ball there is a clear angle that shows he doesnt reach it and its haaland that touches it. Took a risk Casemiro putting his foot in the way of a swinging leg and didnt get the ball. Got away with it though.


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Right. Find me that angle then

I reckon Arsenal 1-3 Man Utd today. Good chance to strengthen top 4 chances. I decided I will just watch for fun. No pressure anymore on games as every game is a near free hit now.

Good luck in your cup final today hafi

Interestingly Newcastle United expected goals against away from home is 11.43 and they conceded 6 goals.

Man Utd is 11.22 and we conceded 17 goals and both played 10 away games. Shows you what having a rubbish goalkeeper does vs a good goalkeeper.

De Gea has like the worst stats of any goalkeeper in away games in PL history over a long period of time. In 21/22 season in 2022 away games De Gea conceded 5.49 goals more than expected. What is crazy is De Gea plays in one of the worlds best away sides at stopping shots and XG against hence why went unbeaten away from home with Dean Henderson in goal easily but as De Gea save percentage is like 30% worse than Henderson we concede for fun.

Our expected goal difference away from home is over 4 goals for and yet our goal difference is -4. De Gea has been terrible since end of 2018.

If we want to win the league we need a top keeper. The only 3 good seasons De Gea had we finished on over 80 points when we had a shocking defence.

Ddg has been largely very good.

Baz tard De Gea is like statsitically the worst keeper since Rangnick got the job and now with Ten Hag. Karius had better stats and even Bravo at there worst had better stats than De Gea over last year and a few weeks in away games. Ten Hag is used to conceding very few goals and we have one of the best defences in whole of Europe yet concede for fun. Palace had like 0.7 XG last 2 games against us and scored 2 goals against a team who rarely score.😂

Man Utd this season are 3rd best for XG against and 5th best for goals against. Chelsea conceded less by 1 goal and there XG against is 7.62 more so Kepa looks like the worlds best keeper and would be a huge upgrade over De Gea.

I think De Gea save percentage since 2022 started is 40% in away games.