Poch also vetoed Perreira and Tielemans in previous windows so let’s not pretend it is all rosy
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 6 hours, 4 minutes ago
Have a listen to the A View From The Lane podcast. One of the journos from The Athletic said that there were loads of times where Pochettino wanted to sell Alli, Dier, Toby etc in their prime to then reinvest the cash in the squad. It was Levy that decided against it and let those same players stagnate and their value decreased. It’s quite shocking really and it just does to show that the staleness that set in during his final year could have been avoided if we’d reinvested the funds to freshen things up. In short, it was Levy’s fault, not Poch’s. He made a good point that we’re neither a selling club nor a financial monster. We sit somewhere inbetween so we don’t really know what we should be. Most of what’s happening right now in terms of players contracts being terminated with an inability to shift those out on loan is the fault of one man, and one man only.
It’s certainly one in the eye for all those Poch boo boys.
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The two we held onto for far too long were Ali and Eriksen who were both worth a fortune 4 years ago but for differing reasons became a shadow of their former selves by the time we got rid.
That said had we sold either one of them (or Toby) in their prime the majority of our fans would have been furious and made comments like "this just proves we are a selling club with no ambition" likening it to the sales if Berbatov, Carrick, Modric, Bale..... etc.
View from the Lane is my favourite Spurs podcast so I shall give it a listen but going by what you've written I think they've underestimated the outrage the sale of these players would of caused several years ago even if we can all see the benefits now.
OP
Of course Spurs are keeping Emerson and not Doherty. Better player, younger. It's a no brainer.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 6 hours, 29 minutes ago
Have a listen to the A View From The Lane podcast. One of the journos from The Athletic said that there were loads of times where Pochettino wanted to sell Alli, Dier, Toby etc in their prime to then reinvest the cash in the squad. It was Levy that decided against it and let those same players stagnate and their value decreased. It’s quite shocking really and it just does to show that the staleness that set in during his final year could have been avoided if we’d reinvested the funds to freshen things up. In short, it was Levy’s fault, not Poch’s. He made a good point that we’re neither a selling club nor a financial monster. We sit somewhere inbetween so we don’t really know what we should be. Most of what’s happening right now in terms of players contracts being terminated with an inability to shift those out on loan is the fault of one man, and one man only.
It’s certainly one in the eye for all those Poch boo boys.
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Fridge putting a spin on his Poch love in. Always someone else's fault, never Pochettino's. Fridge sounding like a Liverpool supporter now.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 9 hours, 4 minutes ago
Chelsea have a player out on loan at every club in Europe. How have you reached the limit and they ain't??
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Fackin tinpot outfit....t'was ever thus
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 6 hours, 34 minutes ago
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 22 minutes ago
It certainly is. If the Athletic journo actually knows that and isn't just spouting rumours or his opinion. The problem with them podcasts (fan/casual journo led) is they tend to get stuck on repeating narratives. It's like when people repeat what Ali Gold says as fact when it's just his opinion or what's been leaked to him deliberately by the club.
But that said, it's not hard to imagine that's true in part at least. Poch was quite clear in his painful rebuild comment he wanted to do that at some point at least.. though Sanchez, Lo Celso, Ndombele was quite the painful rebuild..
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I think it was Jack Pitt Brooke so no lazy journalism going on. He’s very good and he’s never once had an agenda or showed his hand regarding support for Poch. He just listed the facts as he knew them.
That said, I’m sure had we sold Alli and Toby in their prime, we’d have all been furious and blamed Levy anyway. This, at least, does prove that he’s not so completely in love with profit. He kept hold of very, very lucrative assets.
Us and Liverpool hit a crossroads about 5 years back. They sold Coutinho and reinvested well. We sat on what we had. Neither method was wrong as Liverpool could have just as easily wasted that 150m but they didn’t. It’s all about good recruitment at the end of the day and we’ve been woeful at it for quite some time now.
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Except it doesn't prove that though, does it? We never had a huge bid for any of those players. Maybe Levy marked them in as untouchables but - like with Bale - if some transfer record offer came in for Dele I bet he'd have sold. Kane was sellable at the right price, after all.
Your point about Liverpool is a good one and it's really on Barca for buying him instead of Eriksen.. though yes. We'd have likely bought 2 decentish players and 4 deadwoods with that money.
comment by ●Billy The Spur● 20*21*22* ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 10 hours, 39 minutes ago
Apparently it`s to do with a limit on the number of players we can have out on loan. We are at the limit and so have mutually terminated Poverty`s contract so he can join Athletico
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Really Billy.. poverty.. that’s the best adjective you had?
You can bet Doherty is a better player in 6 months, you might be in for him then
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posted on 1/2/23
Poch also vetoed Perreira and Tielemans in previous windows so let’s not pretend it is all rosy
posted on 1/2/23
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 6 hours, 4 minutes ago
Have a listen to the A View From The Lane podcast. One of the journos from The Athletic said that there were loads of times where Pochettino wanted to sell Alli, Dier, Toby etc in their prime to then reinvest the cash in the squad. It was Levy that decided against it and let those same players stagnate and their value decreased. It’s quite shocking really and it just does to show that the staleness that set in during his final year could have been avoided if we’d reinvested the funds to freshen things up. In short, it was Levy’s fault, not Poch’s. He made a good point that we’re neither a selling club nor a financial monster. We sit somewhere inbetween so we don’t really know what we should be. Most of what’s happening right now in terms of players contracts being terminated with an inability to shift those out on loan is the fault of one man, and one man only.
It’s certainly one in the eye for all those Poch boo boys.
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The two we held onto for far too long were Ali and Eriksen who were both worth a fortune 4 years ago but for differing reasons became a shadow of their former selves by the time we got rid.
That said had we sold either one of them (or Toby) in their prime the majority of our fans would have been furious and made comments like "this just proves we are a selling club with no ambition" likening it to the sales if Berbatov, Carrick, Modric, Bale..... etc.
View from the Lane is my favourite Spurs podcast so I shall give it a listen but going by what you've written I think they've underestimated the outrage the sale of these players would of caused several years ago even if we can all see the benefits now.
posted on 1/2/23
OP
Of course Spurs are keeping Emerson and not Doherty. Better player, younger. It's a no brainer.
posted on 1/2/23
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 6 hours, 29 minutes ago
Have a listen to the A View From The Lane podcast. One of the journos from The Athletic said that there were loads of times where Pochettino wanted to sell Alli, Dier, Toby etc in their prime to then reinvest the cash in the squad. It was Levy that decided against it and let those same players stagnate and their value decreased. It’s quite shocking really and it just does to show that the staleness that set in during his final year could have been avoided if we’d reinvested the funds to freshen things up. In short, it was Levy’s fault, not Poch’s. He made a good point that we’re neither a selling club nor a financial monster. We sit somewhere inbetween so we don’t really know what we should be. Most of what’s happening right now in terms of players contracts being terminated with an inability to shift those out on loan is the fault of one man, and one man only.
It’s certainly one in the eye for all those Poch boo boys.
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Fridge putting a spin on his Poch love in. Always someone else's fault, never Pochettino's. Fridge sounding like a Liverpool supporter now.
posted on 1/2/23
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 9 hours, 4 minutes ago
Chelsea have a player out on loan at every club in Europe. How have you reached the limit and they ain't??
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Fackin tinpot outfit....t'was ever thus
posted on 1/2/23
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 6 hours, 34 minutes ago
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 22 minutes ago
It certainly is. If the Athletic journo actually knows that and isn't just spouting rumours or his opinion. The problem with them podcasts (fan/casual journo led) is they tend to get stuck on repeating narratives. It's like when people repeat what Ali Gold says as fact when it's just his opinion or what's been leaked to him deliberately by the club.
But that said, it's not hard to imagine that's true in part at least. Poch was quite clear in his painful rebuild comment he wanted to do that at some point at least.. though Sanchez, Lo Celso, Ndombele was quite the painful rebuild..
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I think it was Jack Pitt Brooke so no lazy journalism going on. He’s very good and he’s never once had an agenda or showed his hand regarding support for Poch. He just listed the facts as he knew them.
That said, I’m sure had we sold Alli and Toby in their prime, we’d have all been furious and blamed Levy anyway. This, at least, does prove that he’s not so completely in love with profit. He kept hold of very, very lucrative assets.
Us and Liverpool hit a crossroads about 5 years back. They sold Coutinho and reinvested well. We sat on what we had. Neither method was wrong as Liverpool could have just as easily wasted that 150m but they didn’t. It’s all about good recruitment at the end of the day and we’ve been woeful at it for quite some time now.
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Except it doesn't prove that though, does it? We never had a huge bid for any of those players. Maybe Levy marked them in as untouchables but - like with Bale - if some transfer record offer came in for Dele I bet he'd have sold. Kane was sellable at the right price, after all.
Your point about Liverpool is a good one and it's really on Barca for buying him instead of Eriksen.. though yes. We'd have likely bought 2 decentish players and 4 deadwoods with that money.
posted on 1/2/23
comment by ●Billy The Spur● 20*21*22* ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 10 hours, 39 minutes ago
Apparently it`s to do with a limit on the number of players we can have out on loan. We are at the limit and so have mutually terminated Poverty`s contract so he can join Athletico
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Really Billy.. poverty.. that’s the best adjective you had?
posted on 1/2/23
You can bet Doherty is a better player in 6 months, you might be in for him then
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